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Nikola Jokic & The Nuggets STOLE Melo's Legacy

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Nikola Jokic & The Nuggets STOLE Carmelo Anthony's Legacy according to Gilbert Arenas as he and The Gil's Arena Crew react to Carmelo's recent comments on Nikola Jokic wearing the #15 jersey in Denver and discuss why the Nuggets should have never given Melo's number away in the first place.
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@charlesspesock5069
@charlesspesock5069 7 ай бұрын
I remember Chauncy Billups telling a story that if Melo had 30 points and they lost, he was happy. But, if he had 15 points and they won, he was upset. All you need to know right there.
@azrudaz9096
@azrudaz9096 7 ай бұрын
Only n-word hoopers care Melo existed. He's literally irrelevant to NBA history. Everyone the NBA can score. It's not impressive. Can you actually WORK WITH OTHERS?? CAN YOU COMPROMISE?? Or will you just make every debate about "one-on-one in the park"?? Even though this is PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL??? "Let's just throw the ball intp an open gym and see who's the real hooper"?? 😳 talk that appeals to a really small niche
@steviechampagne
@steviechampagne 7 ай бұрын
meanwhile jokic doesn’t care if he gets 4 points or 44 points and he won a chip
@neilfordan
@neilfordan 7 ай бұрын
much like he was upset when jeremy lin is actually producing for the knicks
@johncapo2843
@johncapo2843 7 ай бұрын
thank you
@givemesometime8405
@givemesometime8405 7 ай бұрын
@@neilfordani remember he was hating. I always try thought that was a very very bad look
@chuckm4540
@chuckm4540 7 ай бұрын
Here's a summary of comments below in one sentence: Jokic wore 15 his entire life, he was drafted in the 2nd round during a Taco Bell commercial and the Nuggets had no idea Jokic was going to be a superstar, other Nuggets wore 15 after Melo left and Melo demanded to be traded to the Knicks.
@wyotriumphrider
@wyotriumphrider 7 ай бұрын
Melo traded his own Nuggets legacy away when he forced the Knicks trade.
@tropickman
@tropickman 7 ай бұрын
In order for someone to jeopardize your legacy, you first have to have a legacy. Melo had no legacy! He never won anything & never led Nuggets to any successes. If I remember correctly, he demanded a trade from Denver & shat the bed. PS: I would be very surprised if Jokic even knew who Melo was.
@Adj8llk
@Adj8llk 7 ай бұрын
Melo was overrated inefficient ball hog that never won anything and team cancer, he never played any defense and was trae young level bad defensively. Going to WCF once and never winning anything is not worty having your jersey retired and thats facts
@illzyaz
@illzyaz 7 ай бұрын
Besides they also have Jusuf nurkic.
@wyotriumphrider
@wyotriumphrider 7 ай бұрын
@@tropickman This is really all about Carmelo's ego. I never felt that the Nuggets owed him anything after he left.
@RicardoGonzalez-bn5uu
@RicardoGonzalez-bn5uu 7 ай бұрын
Didn’t Melo force his way out of Denver?…why would they have loyalty to him?
@CampChamp00
@CampChamp00 7 ай бұрын
Why does no one mention he wanted a trade cuz of George Karl. A coach numerous players have come forward about saying he was a snake
@tiismuna
@tiismuna 7 ай бұрын
Melo left going to his prime. Where is his loyalty then? Fast forward to now. He wants to be a Nugget legend?
@LoneWolf22_
@LoneWolf22_ 7 ай бұрын
hmm whyw should any team retire any player who leaves their franchise. u sound stupid. so should miami or Cleveland retire lbj number????
@predragnicic7138
@predragnicic7138 7 ай бұрын
This vissel Bones didnt even get a ring
@azrudaz9096
@azrudaz9096 7 ай бұрын
Because "they made the playoffs every year"!!! 😂😂 Kenyon bragging on EQUIPMENT MANAGER as if that guy has ANY sway??? 😂😂😂😂
@reillydougherty2166
@reillydougherty2166 7 ай бұрын
Jokic wore 15 in Europe, it’s nothing new he’s wearing the number. Melo was a 3 time all star who forced his way out. Why are we even entertaining this
@BronnyJames2025MVP
@BronnyJames2025MVP 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Joker has a ring and mvp while playing for Denver. Melo did nothing.
@majorhurricane3712
@majorhurricane3712 7 ай бұрын
@@mypeople1stwilliambut it aint called the people nuggets its called the denver nuggets and if thats how they feel who are you to tell them people anything, i for one agree with how they feel, they dont owe him sht that divorce was nasty and melo didnt care about any legacy with them back then so why now?
@liaky0089
@liaky0089 7 ай бұрын
@@mypeople1stwilliam Melo aint shit. All he did was me me me. Bum ass bitch.
@alexanderrose1071
@alexanderrose1071 7 ай бұрын
@@mypeople1stwilliamMelo lost in the playoffs every year in the first round except for once, and they lost in the semi-finals. I get he’s a HOF player, and I’m a fan as he was raised in Baltimore, and so did I. Nothing about his career in Denver makes me think he deserved to have his jersey retired there. In NYC, sure. Not in Denver.
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 7 ай бұрын
Plus, Melo didn't do squat and Jokic is just a player, real player by the way, and all-time great, that is just playing for the Nuggets and making the franchise great as well. But because he's not black and a famous or clique guy, it's allowed for him to catch such drivel and for Melo to just bullshit the whatever.
@popetaytv
@popetaytv 7 ай бұрын
Kenyon was tripping lol. Saying Denver Melo needs his Jersey retired is like saying Minnesota Kevin Love needs his jersey retired.
@Doooooooo
@Doooooooo 7 ай бұрын
I mean the wolves should lol. He's one of the best players the wolves franchise ever had
@westfinest20
@westfinest20 7 ай бұрын
lol @Dooooo you know KG played their.
@badxgrass
@badxgrass 7 ай бұрын
@@westfinest20 "He's ONE of the best players...." Learn to read bro.
@THRRAFRESH
@THRRAFRESH 7 ай бұрын
lol when did avg play deserve retired jerseys?
@cane2486
@cane2486 7 ай бұрын
Stop the 🧢 Kevin love never made the playoffs with Minnesota 🤦‍♂️😴
@dodic8574
@dodic8574 7 ай бұрын
In European basketball, it was typical for centers to wear numbers 11-15. Hence, Jokic wore that number before coming to NBA. Also, it is not like Melo left and Jokic came and took his number in the very next year. Forced drama.
@salezvr
@salezvr 7 ай бұрын
Melo left Denver in 2011, after him number 15 was worn by Randolph, Jokic has been in Denver since 2015.
@khwezi_bass
@khwezi_bass 7 ай бұрын
Great point
@bijouxdoum6199
@bijouxdoum6199 7 ай бұрын
EXACTLY 💯 This is a non issue that Melo, these channels are trying get views. This is ridiculous
@aohjii
@aohjii 7 ай бұрын
2015, number 15, and won them a title... jokic deserve it
@Chris56076
@Chris56076 6 ай бұрын
@@bijouxdoum6199you’re not black so you wont understand
@Chris56076
@Chris56076 6 ай бұрын
Stop making excuses kid
@mk300b
@mk300b 7 ай бұрын
Jokic is the best Denver Nugget ever, there is no conversation to be had here lol
@sunnydlite-t8b
@sunnydlite-t8b 7 ай бұрын
What you mean, mean whitey out to get us again. Victim mentality never ends.
@Chris56076
@Chris56076 6 ай бұрын
Nah Melo still the better player. Never missed the playoffs. Jokic did 4 times but the conversation is that they shouldnt have gave his number up goofy but im sure your whyte
@nnl4596
@nnl4596 6 ай бұрын
@@Chris56076melo is the greatest oat in underachieving 😂😂😂
@rustyray420
@rustyray420 6 ай бұрын
​​@@Chris56076yet joker actually won Denver a ring 😂 what good is making 1st round playoffs every year but never finishing
@chilldoc9638
@chilldoc9638 6 ай бұрын
@@Chris56076casual, jokic is 100x the player melo was
@markmclean8858
@markmclean8858 7 ай бұрын
Black brothas are so weird about finding disrespect in the smallest things that aren't even true.
@1700Va
@1700Va 7 ай бұрын
Are you black ???
@1700Va
@1700Va 7 ай бұрын
I don’t think you so so watch what you say an if you gone say something say it to our face not on no KZfaq social media
@markmclean8858
@markmclean8858 7 ай бұрын
​@@1700Vareally reenforcing my thoughts
@noahamankwaah9802
@noahamankwaah9802 7 ай бұрын
​@@1700Va Blud is proving his point 💀
@Chris56076
@Chris56076 6 ай бұрын
@@markmclean8858which means you’re racist
@lokilucario
@lokilucario 7 ай бұрын
Melo's legacy is individual stats and being a ball hog. Jokic's legacy is already far superior to Melo's Denver " legacy ".
@Adj8llk
@Adj8llk 7 ай бұрын
Facts his legacy is being a inefficient iso ball hog team cancer and a cone defensively
@spenser6353
@spenser6353 7 ай бұрын
If his number isn’t retired then anyone can wear it
@vamoneygroup
@vamoneygroup 7 ай бұрын
People cared about Melo. Nobody cares about Jokic except race warriors and internet bots. Neither of which watch Jokic's games hence the Nuggets incredibly low TV ratings.
@Adj8llk
@Adj8llk 7 ай бұрын
@@vamoneygroup Only race warriors and npc hood bots cared/care about Melo, maybe you should check all star votes to see who cares about who
@lokilucario
@lokilucario 7 ай бұрын
@@vamoneygroup what a stupid comment
@typhelynchalmers2428
@typhelynchalmers2428 7 ай бұрын
This is very sad. Carmelo looks like he regrets how he left Denver and wants a do over. Unfortunately that is not possible. Younger players need to look at this situation. Once your playing days are done, you don’t want to have any regrets.
@daldladla
@daldladla 7 ай бұрын
Yeah they let the number go because he was an immature d head, gave them only one team as a trading partner, and left talking smack about the city. And anytime he brings up Denver it's always in this confrontational type way, so he never lets the dust settle to the point where the city would welcome and recognize him and do an enshrinement of some sort. It's sad he's not a part of our legacy, and contrary to what Gil says here, his best and most winning years were in Denver. Melo knows that.
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 7 ай бұрын
@@daldladla At least he was truly more famous and impactful with the Knicks. But it sadly didn't end well for that jersey either
@BrandinBoyd-uo4if
@BrandinBoyd-uo4if 7 ай бұрын
​@@daldladlamelo wish detroit drafted him not denver he said this plenty times he would have bout 4 rings tbh would of won his first 2 years detroit was in finals those 2 years
@ropeadope3010
@ropeadope3010 7 ай бұрын
That man don’t have no regrets. He’s just jealous of the success Jokic is having. Melo has always been self centered. He actually thought he deserved a farewell tour like DWade.
@jamesb925
@jamesb925 7 ай бұрын
@@BrandinBoyd-uo4ifhe seems like he would’ve brought team chemistry down bc that team in particular was extremely unselfish
@JusAObserver
@JusAObserver 7 ай бұрын
MUCH RESPECT FOR GIL BEING REAL ABOUT NOT FINISHING HIS CAREER PROPERLY AND NOT HOLDING ONTO THE #0!!
@azrudaz9096
@azrudaz9096 7 ай бұрын
I can not only respect it, but also argue he is actually worthy (2nd round pick/FA to All Star/winning seasons)
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 7 ай бұрын
@@azrudaz9096 Gilbert is basically the anti-Melo, much needed for franchises, especially small markets. It's a shame because it is at the same time compounded in his case without all the mess ups and drivel of his. But somebody new in the NBA putting something of Gilbert, or alike his work, to his activity would do very well in his career.
@andylee6147
@andylee6147 7 ай бұрын
Denver did melo dirty though, cause after 09 going to the cf Denver didn’t get more players to come over to win a chip they were trying to rebuild from fresh and traded KMart Chancy and birdman
@kawakami789
@kawakami789 7 ай бұрын
Who gets their number retired while they’re still in the playing. Melo just retired last year.
@jawz2x
@jawz2x 7 ай бұрын
@@andylee6147are u a nuggets fan? I ask coz if so then u would’ve known that we went the the wcf and lost to la. Then the following yr he did denver dirty. Melo can feel the way he wants but he fucked it up for himself. Understand we as denver couldn’t make it out the first round till we traded for chauncey. So again. If u a nugget fan. U woulda known what was happening
@ranchosdelnorte
@ranchosdelnorte 7 ай бұрын
Melo had the chance to be the unquestioned face of a franchise's entire history, but he took it for granted and now someone else seized that opportunity. It wasn't his fault that the West was full of monsters that he couldn't overcome, but it's not the organization's fault either because they built good teams around him. If he truly wanted to leave so he can win, there were tons of better choices than the Knicks, and that's before even taking into consideration all the assets Knicks had to give up to get him. The real reason Melo wanted to go there is so he and his wife can live a celebrity lifestyle. After leaving Melo got to see that the grass is not always greener elsewhere because he only made the playoffs once with the Knicks despite being an easier conference, plus the fans and team turned on him for not winning. Pettiness starts from Melo's side because not once have I ever heard him say anything thankful about his time in Denver, and even announced his retirement as soon as Nuggets clinched their Finals spot. K-Mart, Nene, Chauncey, J.R, Birdman, Camby, Iverson, Andre Miller and pretty much every other Nugget has shown appreciation about their time there despite not being drafted by them or even if they experienced more success elsewhere.
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 7 ай бұрын
I can't imagine how many rings Lebron or Wade would've gotten with those rounds of players from different phases of the late 2000s. Years spent having it good, and without truly having a year that went bad from that team perspective.
@harveywang6647
@harveywang6647 7 ай бұрын
Well said brother
@philmoe
@philmoe 7 ай бұрын
How in the hell are you so wrong plz stop talking out ya ass and look up the facts! The Nuggets were a decent playoff team out west his whole career and underdogs in almost every series! They out-played a high seeded Mavs team and played 5 close games against the champion Lakers in the WCF with a trash coach. The organization didnt want to go over the cap and they made the team worse. He left cause he wanted to win and play in NYC. Knicks made the playoffs the first 3 seasons with Melo and then once all the talent left or got old Melo started dealing with serious injuries that robbed his athleticism.
@bryanaxtman
@bryanaxtman 7 ай бұрын
Then she bolted.
@rcjb2636
@rcjb2636 7 ай бұрын
MEEEEEEEEEEEE lo
@vlada
@vlada 7 ай бұрын
"Not this soon?" 🙄 Anthony Randolph wore Nuggets #15 from 2012 to 2014. Melo left in 2011. Jokic was drafted in 2014, arrived in US in 2015. So the claim is Denver played the long game and gave pick number 41, Jokic the #15 four years after Melo left and Randolph wore it for two seasons. But hey, why do 2 sec of research? Even without Randolph this was the whiniest, dumbest thing on internet thinking that a team waa counting on a 2nd rounder to erase the memory of an all star.
@Chris56076
@Chris56076 6 ай бұрын
I bet you’re whyte bro
@CrownedComander09
@CrownedComander09 7 ай бұрын
Giannis and Ray Allen both drafted by the Bucks share #34, however Giannis will be the player whos number is retired for the team. It is about the bigger legacy left upon the Franchise
@Grind2Excellence
@Grind2Excellence 7 ай бұрын
We’ll bucks should have never gave that number up in first place
@yvans.
@yvans. 7 ай бұрын
@@Grind2Excellenceoh well…
@CrownedComander09
@CrownedComander09 7 ай бұрын
@@Grind2Excellence if Ray had been an MVP champion than the # would have never been given away
@kenankunduklija2505
@kenankunduklija2505 7 ай бұрын
Ray was like the 2nd option on those bucks teams should the bucks retire glen robinsons number too then?
@juandufree4309
@juandufree4309 7 ай бұрын
@@kenankunduklija2505 their numbers were almost the same, stop speaking out of your a**
@jcc3333
@jcc3333 7 ай бұрын
STOLE melos legacy...is insane
@rayvondorsey3317
@rayvondorsey3317 7 ай бұрын
Facts
@KidBowsur
@KidBowsur 7 ай бұрын
That's how they make money. Engagement is engagement in the eyes of advertisers. As long as you aren't going way out of pocket that shit brings in money.
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 7 ай бұрын
The producers, handlers and the actors in Gil's Arena are more without shame than the other media guys like them, media as well
@ScorpionFXSniper
@ScorpionFXSniper 7 ай бұрын
Gil’s a bum your nickname is Agent 0 cause you got 0 rings
@jcc3333
@jcc3333 7 ай бұрын
@dusk6159 yup. They been saying the same stuff for awhile now. Just Acting like they r different just cuz they played the game.
@pashapasovski5860
@pashapasovski5860 7 ай бұрын
Growing up in Yugoslavia, our team had numbers cowering positions, just like in Football, Soccer) 1 Golly, 2,3 Backs,4,5,6 defensive center halfs,7 right wing, 8,10 attacking midfielder, 9 Center forward 11 Left winger,13 reserve Golly and so on! 15 in basketball was Center,,1 playmaker guard, 5 Starting Center, but in 70s it became much less rigid!
@ivandjak1712
@ivandjak1712 7 ай бұрын
I brojevi su bili po velicini. Sto veci broj, to veci broj dresa :)
@pashapasovski5860
@pashapasovski5860 7 ай бұрын
@@ivandjak1712 mozda,zaboravio sam! Secam se Kicha je bio 5 Praja mislim 12 ,Chosa 11 Moka 1 ili sam prolupao
@vamoneygroup
@vamoneygroup 7 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but nobody cares. If you get drafted by the bulls, you can't say "I grew up wearing 33 in my home country."
@kevaughnramsay9846
@kevaughnramsay9846 7 ай бұрын
​@@vamoneygroup Are you seriously comparing Pippen's contributions to the Bulls with Melo's contribution to the Nuggets 😂😂😂😂😂😂.
@vamoneygroup
@vamoneygroup 7 ай бұрын
@@kevaughnramsay9846 With Melo Denver won 50 games and was the 8th seed. The NBA allowed defense back then. Now nobody watches Denver. Their ratings are abysmal. People pretend to care about jokic online because its being made to be some kind of race issue.
@adriandaliva1341
@adriandaliva1341 7 ай бұрын
he was drafted DURING A TACO BELL TV AD did anyone really expect him to be this good 😂
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 7 ай бұрын
"The racist climate of" these dudes's talk show is funny
@edfa3706
@edfa3706 7 ай бұрын
@@dusk6159it’s almost embarrassing. It’s reverse racism at this point. Lol
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 7 ай бұрын
@@edfa3706 The funny thing is that Westbrook is a more level-headed and better contributor, and it looks like he has the will to win too despite the failures on the court They were related thanks to the declines or bench situation, but for example I would give Russ way more respect. Solid man too, at least definitely with the Clippers, loss in glitz and standing and all. He did the right sacrifice and he could get a chip with the Clippers because of it
@RightStickRob
@RightStickRob 7 ай бұрын
@@edfa3706you’re not wrong
@Myhaay
@Myhaay 7 ай бұрын
@@edfa3706 it's just racism you idiots, racism doesn't mean just hateful towards black people, it's all races, including white, nba fans are the stupidest sports fans on the planet i swear.
@damonsonnier34
@damonsonnier34 7 ай бұрын
There is huge difference on Carmelo Anthony and Nikola Jokic. One was a first found draft pick, and he was an underachiever. The second was a second round pick, and he was an overachiever.
@ddchoppa8803
@ddchoppa8803 7 ай бұрын
Carmelo Anthony wasn’t an underachiever wtf ? Since when is a HOF career underachieving
@lukatosic09
@lukatosic09 7 ай бұрын
​@@ddchoppa8803 In denver he underachieved
@TheMedicinalMan
@TheMedicinalMan 7 ай бұрын
@@ddchoppa8803plenty of dudes in the HOF who aren’t nearly as good as other dudes in the HOF. Melo was a great player, never did shit with Denver and forced his way out. Denver owes him nothing.
@pipohemm8726
@pipohemm8726 7 ай бұрын
Your average number 3 pick isnt making 10 allstars, 3 olympic golds and a few all nba. Yeah he could have been even better but he is far from an underachiver. A guy like Beasley, number 2 pick and similar skills coming out of college is an underachiever
@BroCoolFire
@BroCoolFire 7 ай бұрын
Foh, you don't know hoop
@EddyTheChump
@EddyTheChump 7 ай бұрын
Jersey retirements should be for being pivotal in winning multiple chips, changing an entire franchise’s future/culture or for being an all time great. Let me know which one Melo was at Denver and I’ll get back to you with some empathy for him being in his feelings about something that in other sports is seen as the highest compliment.
@pittland44
@pittland44 7 ай бұрын
Sadly, there was a time when Melo did change the entire course of the Denver Nuggets future. He took a team that had averaged 29 wins a season the four years before he got there and hadn't made the playoffs in 8 years and immediately led them to a 43 win season and a playoff birth. He really did have an electric effect on the team, he just didn't appreciate what exactly he brought and he was more concerned with his own stats and being a celebrity than he was with winning the whole thing. Had he stayed, and had they even won just one title, we would not be having this discussion right now. But, as they say, hindsight is 20/20.
@yormeaceko7101
@yormeaceko7101 7 ай бұрын
Their retired numbers are Fat Lever and Motumbo. That's the whole picture for Nuggets history.
@JamesHarris-st7le
@JamesHarris-st7le 7 ай бұрын
Your wrong Reggie Miller never won and his jersey should be retired
@picassojulien899
@picassojulien899 7 ай бұрын
Melo put the nuggets on the map. They hadn’t had that type of media coverage since alex english, or when they beat the 1st seed. Thats like saying vince shouldn’t have his jersey retired in Toronto(which it probably won’t) but he put toronto on the map
@vulcanraven9701
@vulcanraven9701 7 ай бұрын
@@pittland44 melo didnt even make a title. thats then issue
@bubbamoss32
@bubbamoss32 7 ай бұрын
No one knew jokic was gone be that great
@jasonbabilonia3037
@jasonbabilonia3037 7 ай бұрын
Trying to flip the narrative, 2nd round draft pick.
@bubbamoss32
@bubbamoss32 7 ай бұрын
@@jasonbabilonia3037 late second round at that lol
@jamesgarcia743
@jamesgarcia743 7 ай бұрын
So what I’m hearing is: Denver drafted a nobody at the time and were willing to give him number 15 just like they gave it before to another random guy. Sounds like Denver never intended to retire his jersey out of spite.
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 7 ай бұрын
​@@jasonbabilonia3037 It's Kenyon Martin, and the whole of Gil's Arena What level do we expect...
@bubbamoss32
@bubbamoss32 7 ай бұрын
@@jamesgarcia743 🤣🤣🤣🤣 facts
@bns434
@bns434 7 ай бұрын
Jokic legacy 10x better than Melos
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 7 ай бұрын
Hell Murray is a more special Nuggets player than Anthony
@mikemcnamarafilm
@mikemcnamarafilm 7 ай бұрын
This is like asking your ex girlfriend to keep your toothbrush at her house after you cheated on her. Melo ditched Denver. He wanted to leave. And he left.
@jamalholmes793
@jamalholmes793 7 ай бұрын
I thought that was the case..... Melo tripping
@nanagyambibi7426
@nanagyambibi7426 7 ай бұрын
You cannot leave a franchise on bad terms and think that they are going to honor you down the line. Also I dont think the Nuggets knew Jokic was going to turn into who he became. Also Melo gotta live with that cause Jokic delivered a chip!
@vamoneygroup
@vamoneygroup 7 ай бұрын
Who made that rule up? Was it you. Which franchise do you own? So ownership isn't obligated be decent in dealings with players? If they don't honor Melo, it means that there is no relationship with players other than business.
@teriba453
@teriba453 7 ай бұрын
@@vamoneygroupSo what rule do you have any right to decide, shut up man or speak with some respect
@jaylucas8352
@jaylucas8352 7 ай бұрын
Stahpp. Melo f d up the business relationship w how he demanded a trade to NY specifically which forced Denver to lose their bench in trade value. Melo left on a dirty note tbf, from a business standpoint @@vamoneygroup
@Arnold-p5z
@Arnold-p5z 7 ай бұрын
​@@vamoneygroupsucks to suck. Nugs are over melo
@vamoneygroup
@vamoneygroup 7 ай бұрын
@@Arnold-p5z Nobody cares about Jokic. His TV ratings are abysmal. Even in the finals nobody watches. The only people who care are internet bots and race warriors.
@thomassabatier506
@thomassabatier506 7 ай бұрын
Why is this only becoming a problem NOW? Yeah, it was "disrespectful" at the time it was done. But now, Jokic has a title, a Finals MVP and a 2 time MVP. He's played more games as a Nugget, he's now a bigger Nugget than Melo was. So.. they got it right? Let's face it, if you're the Nuggets and only one get number 15, you have to give it to the guy who got you a ship. It's like when they put Shaq in the top 50 players early. it was too soon, but they picked right.
@azrudaz9096
@azrudaz9096 7 ай бұрын
BECAUSE 15 HAS VALUE NOW!!! It's typical gentrification!!! Black guy had 15, left under somewhat bad terms, wore 7 the rest of his career/in his words "rarley thought about DEN15 after leaving"... Another Black guy had 15 but does nothing of note... But a White guy raises 15 to (F)MVP level and suddenly it's "That belongs to me"??
@asdasd1111ish
@asdasd1111ish 7 ай бұрын
Jokic is also a bigger NBA player than Melo career achievement wise too. Melo seem jealous cuz another (white) dude "erased" everything he did in Nugget with his talent 😂.
@Grind2Excellence
@Grind2Excellence 7 ай бұрын
@@azrudaz9096low iq race bait
@thomassabatier506
@thomassabatier506 7 ай бұрын
@@asdasd1111ish that is more debatable. Yes Jokic has more silverware, but it's a team sport, Melo hasn't had the same team. Melo has more than 2x more career points than Jokic, he's a lot more established. I think let's give him a few more years.
@patitoduck123
@patitoduck123 7 ай бұрын
@@thomassabatier506Melo had a fantastic team though.. a contender especially between 2008-2010. They just ran into better teams
@avataz
@avataz 7 ай бұрын
No one is going to forget Carmelo Anthony just because of a jersey number. People need to grow up
@LoneWolf22_
@LoneWolf22_ 7 ай бұрын
nah this matters punk. what is you talkin about!!???
@edfa3706
@edfa3706 7 ай бұрын
I all ready forgot about him. You can tell the story of basketball without him but you can’t without jokic at this point
@freezybreezy1001
@freezybreezy1001 7 ай бұрын
@@LoneWolf22_ Lmao you may not but everyone else already is. Who tf is talking about melo in 2024 literally no one. He didn’t leave a mark it’s sad but it’s the truth he underachieved.
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 7 ай бұрын
So Melo wasn't a top 10 great player or an all star on the Nuggets? He didn't leave any more? You're a mark because you're daft. That's equivalent to saying nobody talks about Barkley or Vince Carter. You just don't know your history.
@daveclark8337
@daveclark8337 7 ай бұрын
Who he play for?
@unwashedPapi
@unwashedPapi 7 ай бұрын
The same Melo that ball hogged 7 straight seasons bringing Denver to 1 conference finals in that time ? The same Melo that demanded a trade out of Denver? If you 💩 on a team on your way out of the door is that same team obligated to “respect your legacy” down line ?
@stephenpamon4162
@stephenpamon4162 7 ай бұрын
Stop being disingenuous, Lakers, Suns, Hornets, Then OKC, And Obviously the Spurs. And you expect A Ring??? Jokic played one healthy team the Heat.
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 7 ай бұрын
He's flashy so he's the one case who deserves it apparently And thank god that Billups got traded for AI there, he was the one that created that run in 2009
@chrisrobinson8339
@chrisrobinson8339 7 ай бұрын
I disagree.
@RafsanS15
@RafsanS15 7 ай бұрын
@@stephenpamon4162 2010 - Utah, 2006 - Clippers, 2004 - T-Wolves. can beat hornets in 2009
@Grind2Excellence
@Grind2Excellence 7 ай бұрын
Ball hogged? He’s a fucking scoring alltime great show respect
@LukaPG15
@LukaPG15 7 ай бұрын
This whole thing is ridiculous. As Gil mentioned the nuggets couldn’t have possibly known he was going to be this great! He was a 2nd round pick meaning he had no expectations whatsoever. Also, if memory serves me correctly Melo asked to be traded from Denver and that’s how he ended up with the Knicks. He had his best years with the Knicks anyway and will be remembered more for being a Knick than he ever will with the Nuggets.
@underthebridgetroll9816
@underthebridgetroll9816 7 ай бұрын
Funny thing is, Melo took this long to cry about it now that Jokic is "him".
@teppec
@teppec 7 ай бұрын
In case no one looked it up, Rick Mahorn was the last person with #4 for the Nets about 3 or 4 years before KMart came into the league. Mahorn did some good things with the Pistons, but no idea why the Nets would have held the number.
@ivantomic8474
@ivantomic8474 7 ай бұрын
Drazan Petrovic
@teppec
@teppec 7 ай бұрын
@@ivantomic8474 Petrovic has #3 retired or honored or whatever they call it with the nets and he left in 93. Mahorn wore 4 with nets until 96.
@burekevan
@burekevan 6 ай бұрын
lol i has to look this up too and wouldve never came up with Rick Mahorn
@ejkboxing
@ejkboxing 7 ай бұрын
Did people remember that Melo wore #15 in Denver before he mentioned it? I didn't.
@skmmlk5379
@skmmlk5379 7 ай бұрын
I'm 36 denver native long time nuggs fan I remember it clearly I have one of his jerseys. Everyone I know that's a nuggs fan knows his number. All that being said joker still the true 15 lmao
@nroman387
@nroman387 7 ай бұрын
Yes
@ddchoppa8803
@ddchoppa8803 7 ай бұрын
wtf. Everybody knows melo wore 15 on nuggets. I’m 19 & I knew that You gotta be really young to not know that
@AndreP1524
@AndreP1524 7 ай бұрын
Umm yea I did Melo and Vince Carter I’ll always remember for #15
@pitoseavy4523
@pitoseavy4523 7 ай бұрын
Bro what ? You kids these days is sad😂😂
@notoriousd.a.d
@notoriousd.a.d 7 ай бұрын
Maybe they did. But the way Melo left, he really can’t throw stones.
@naelbi8870
@naelbi8870 7 ай бұрын
😂 Jokic put a ring on the 15, Melo never did DEAL WITH IT 😂
@Chris56076
@Chris56076 6 ай бұрын
Melo never missed the playoffs. Jokic did
@naelbi8870
@naelbi8870 6 ай бұрын
@@Chris56076 😂 How many rings on Melo fingers, how many NBA finals?! A LOT of greats missed playoffs because they were in a bad team, that is not an argument !
@Chris56076
@Chris56076 6 ай бұрын
@@naelbi8870 and Melo was great enough not to miss the playoffs! So how is missing the playoffs better??. Melo was on a bad team too his rookie year 🤣 You forgot nuggets won 17 games before Melo came
@naelbi8870
@naelbi8870 6 ай бұрын
@@Chris56076😂 I know you're butthurt because I just stated the truth : Jokic is already a greater Nugget than Melo ever was Missing playoffs is not an argument !
@301Cardosi
@301Cardosi 7 ай бұрын
All due respect to Melo, one of my favorite players ever. But why the hell is this even a discussion? Melo left the franchise. Ok he made them relevant, kudos to him but Jokic got them a damn ring, you don’t get more relevant than that. He’s a 2 time MVP. And we’ve learned Jokic been wearing 15. Sorry Melo, maybe the Knicks will retire your jersey.
@justified004
@justified004 7 ай бұрын
That's all true, but we also have the benefit of having seen this much of Jokic's career. Like Kenyon said, there was no way of knowing any of the MVPs or the ring was going to happen when Jokic came in as a mid 2nd round pick. The fact that the number 15 was even available to begin with is the issue that most people ha e an issue with. Yes, Melo left, but if you remember what was happening with the team at the point, the franchise was offloading all their relevant talent. The Nuggets weren't blameless at the time.
@user-gc1wj8tt2p
@user-gc1wj8tt2p 7 ай бұрын
I love jokic but melo got them to the conference finals, how many times have the nuggets been there before him? 0. To say he did nothing in denver is ridiculous, without melo the denver before didn't have an identity. Nevertheless he left awfully which is why he will never get his jersey retired
@301Cardosi
@301Cardosi 7 ай бұрын
@@justified004 idk man, I’m in the owner and you just choose to leave when I’ve put pretty good players around you if prolly feel a way too. “To hell with your number, if it meant that much you would’ve stayed” kinda thing 🤷🏿‍♂️
@VulcanThaCreator
@VulcanThaCreator 7 ай бұрын
Nuggets went to the WCF in the 80s with Alex English I think twice. So no he didn't take the nuggets the furthest.
@JakeKoenig
@JakeKoenig 7 ай бұрын
You know why it's a discussion. The same reason that everything else about Jokic seems to turn into a discussion. You know why Jokic's very existence, and especially his success, triggers a certain kind of person.
@007HuntaNG
@007HuntaNG 7 ай бұрын
People gotta remember the time of the trade, Melo left on bad terms with the Nuggets. The Nuggets weren’t trash they were always competitive and they were in the process of trying to add talent around him. Melo wanted to go to NY no matter what, so I personally think they should’ve retired it because those years with the Nuggets were great years. BUT I also see why they didn’t retire it, you basically quit on us and no matter what we did you wanted to leave. So forget you basically lol you shouldn’t even have wanted your number retired with us.
@etoradamaley4713
@etoradamaley4713 7 ай бұрын
Every organization should have high standards regarding retiring jerseys. I'm glad the Nuggets are improving their jersey retirement standards starting with Melo
@benn255b3
@benn255b3 7 ай бұрын
​@@etoradamaley4713to be fair if Joker never there Melo would still be the best player they had. Also Melo did force his way out but this was before you could just request a trade without turning into a villain. It wasn't like today where every star player could just leave whenever. I'm guessing both you guys to young to remember or even knew that.
@007HuntaNG
@007HuntaNG 7 ай бұрын
@@benn255b3 Naw I remember that’s why I said I see both sides. So I get why the organization wouldn’t retire the number, they left off on real bad terms. The fans were mad about it. Cause like I said it wasn’t like the Nuggets sucked when he left, they were a contender for the WCF every year. They just couldn’t get past the Lakers.
@penemuelwatcher2378
@penemuelwatcher2378 7 ай бұрын
"So forget you basically lol you shouldn’t even have wanted your number retired with us." *EXACTLY*
@vulcanraven9701
@vulcanraven9701 7 ай бұрын
@@benn255b3 he won no rings and spent less than half his career in denver. thats all
@TurKishsoulja
@TurKishsoulja 7 ай бұрын
Melo does not have a legacy to steal.
@MichaelBonhomme-zr3zs
@MichaelBonhomme-zr3zs 7 ай бұрын
Top 10 Coldest Scorers In The Game At Small Forward, Killer for Team USA, and A FACE of his era… Bron, Melo, and Wade WERE The Faces Of Their Generation, and the Original Miami/Chicago Big 3 Proposal before Melo chose “his wife’s ambitions” and “his bag” in NY
@mazuma7127
@mazuma7127 7 ай бұрын
"Coldest scorer" "Killer" "A FACE" Bunch of nonsense that doesn't mean anything. Bro was a selfish bag chaser who could shoot the ball @@MichaelBonhomme-zr3zs
@respectedlocalgentleman7108
@respectedlocalgentleman7108 7 ай бұрын
@@MichaelBonhomme-zr3zs Yapping bullshit that don't even matter. Who cares about the face of a generation. He's a vastly inferior basketball player. End of story.
@bighomietadoe
@bighomietadoe Ай бұрын
What legacy do you have ? Talking down on a mf whose legacy is 100 times better than yours goofy
@trerose3709
@trerose3709 7 ай бұрын
Melo one of my fav players growing up in Denver but he’s def reaching on this one. No one knew jokic would be this great. I get that he feels like the nuggets shouldn’t have given anyone that # out of respect but it’s a hard situation when melo forced his way out of Denver and left on bad terms.
@etoradamaley4713
@etoradamaley4713 7 ай бұрын
Other players had that jersey number since Melo left before Jokic.
@vulcanraven9701
@vulcanraven9701 7 ай бұрын
Melo whining about this shows how inflated his ego is. And why he never won
@earlismarks7108
@earlismarks7108 7 ай бұрын
Jokic has worn 15 most of his career..
@davidsims8634
@davidsims8634 7 ай бұрын
If Melo wanted his number retired in Denver, he should have stayed in Denver and won a championship. Have nothing against Melo and actually was hoping Denver would do something to honor him, but this display of misguided bitterness makes it less likely.
@intro06
@intro06 7 ай бұрын
Jokic wasn’t the only one to wear the 15
@damonsonnier34
@damonsonnier34 7 ай бұрын
Vince Carter, Earl Monroe.
@GregPopabich
@GregPopabich 7 ай бұрын
Nuggets DO NOT owe Melo and darn thing! He wanted to be traded! No one knew Jokic would become what he is today!
@matt_milack
@matt_milack 7 ай бұрын
Listening to Kenyon Martin, one would think that Melo had Three-peat with the Nuggets.
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 7 ай бұрын
And these clowns title it STOLE too If the classic whites Washington Generals played better and got one game off the classic blacks Globetrotters, they would cry steal because of the entitlement and of the opposing skin
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 7 ай бұрын
It's color-blind for the actual fans though, blacks are roasting this panel regardless of race
@azrudaz9096
@azrudaz9096 7 ай бұрын
Listening to Kenyon shows everything wrong with that squad!!! "I'm the number 1 pick, why I can't wear 4?? F whatever that guy did, not that I care to find out who/what/why!!" You're drafted. SHOW SOME HUMILITY!! "Thanks for CHOOSING me; I hope to validate your decision". BUT NO!! It's "You're lucky to have me"!! SLAM Magazine told me the Nets would be champs by 2001.... I'M STILL WAITING....
@hotgrease
@hotgrease 7 ай бұрын
Randolph wearing 15 and Melo didn’t have any issue at the time or even now. But now that Jokic is going to get it retired Melo has an issue with it. Melo did great things for Denver basketball but he’s a Knick and shouldn’t get his number retired regardless of Jokic.
@bozeeke
@bozeeke 7 ай бұрын
He left the team 4 years earlier on bad terms and wasn't a guy who won them a title. You don't retire everybody's number. Secondly Jokic took that number because it's been his number his entire life.
@DD-sr9xm
@DD-sr9xm 7 ай бұрын
Appreciate KMart standing up for his guys, both Melo and Sparky, but Melo knows the way he left spoiled any chance of having his jersey retired. Melo is entitled to be upset but Jokic is already the greatest Nugget ever and as simple indeed people always say, “it is what it is”.
@Don_Rodrigo44
@Don_Rodrigo44 7 ай бұрын
cmon man he didn't do enough in Denver to have his shit taken outta circulation and while where on the subject shaqs 4 years in orlando wasn't enough to have his jersey retired either youre supposed to be a historical all time player for a franchise for that to happen like 10+ years and some chips if you wanna be in the rafters
@PeteringYT
@PeteringYT 7 ай бұрын
Shaq at least made the finals. It's not his fault the Magic cheaped out and Penny broke down.
@outlandishworld6183
@outlandishworld6183 7 ай бұрын
At least shaq went to the finals Melo ain’t do jack
@azrudaz9096
@azrudaz9096 7 ай бұрын
A fellow "anti Shaq" guy!! The ULTIMATE PROOF Shaq is unworthy is Orlando doing this for "35th anniversary"!!! That's just a "ticket seller/please pay us some attention". When LAL retired Shaq's jersey, THEY MADE A DAY FOR IT!! They didn't wait until "50th anniversary of the franchise"!! This is like ESPN making up awards sp LeBron turns up cos he won't attend unless he's winning cos he's a star not an audience member!!! Pretty sure Shaq doing a "meet and greet" would make some money, but if ORL32 ISN'T ALREADY RETIRED, it was never meant to be!!! Like, imagine Knicks telling us TODAY they've finally decided to retire Ewing's number 40yrs later!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
@elp3035
@elp3035 7 ай бұрын
2 players after Melo got the #. Nobody thought Joker was gonna be who he was. Stop it
@jaygabbana6852
@jaygabbana6852 7 ай бұрын
There’s a bum on the Magic wearing Dwight Howard’s #12 right now but nobody has realized it
@jcchambers7896
@jcchambers7896 7 ай бұрын
That's sad but I guess it's ok
@folkdude01
@folkdude01 7 ай бұрын
I know Gil wore Orlando 1 to honor Penny but that was weird too. Penny was special they shouldn’t have let anyone wear 1 after him even T-Mac. Him, Dwight 12 and Shaq 32 should be retired. Maybe even Nick’s 25 since he holds so many Orlando all-time records.
@Chris56076
@Chris56076 6 ай бұрын
Im not arguing with whyte people or kids born after 2004. They the only ones who hate on Melo cause he black and carried the nuggets. But now that jokic is their skin color. They will highly praise him. Im happy he won us a championship but he didnt carry us from the jump. Took him 4 years to het us to the playoffs. He was not that good at first. Melo carried us from his rookie year! Thats the difference between them two. Both deserve 15 to be retired but 15 should have never been given to Jokic cause of melo legacy. But Denver was mad he left. Which I understand which makes Melo point right. They were petty
@chilldoc9638
@chilldoc9638 6 ай бұрын
Jokic has 2 MVPs, a finals mvp and will not leave, melo doesn’t care about winning, never a finals appearance and will play less years on the nuggets And stop bringing up skin color, you sound stupid
@juniorways
@juniorways 7 ай бұрын
For the first time Gil said something solid....much respect. Melo doesn't have a point; he wanted out of that franchize from the moment he got there; he is trying to rain on Nikola's parade
@Kevin.Costner.
@Kevin.Costner. 7 ай бұрын
2009 He coulda changed that if he beat the Lakers and then Celtics🤷‍♂️
@islander5858
@islander5858 7 ай бұрын
Bingooooo
@damonsonnier34
@damonsonnier34 7 ай бұрын
You mean the Magic?
@terencejones22
@terencejones22 7 ай бұрын
Wrong year he meant the magic
@RafsanS15
@RafsanS15 7 ай бұрын
if karl had a clue on how to run inbound plays.... could push the wcf to 7
@terencejones22
@terencejones22 7 ай бұрын
@RafsanS15 What difference does it make really they we're losing that series anyways
@DNGR369
@DNGR369 7 ай бұрын
It's good to have the opportunity to see K-mart on the reg. Big respect! The most embarrassing of all numbers is when LeBron wore 23 in Cleveland. They should have retired that number league wide. Nobody is MJ but MJ
@ryanrosales6823
@ryanrosales6823 7 ай бұрын
Huh? What would they do that? Did MJ win a championship for Cleveland? No. So why would they retire his number when he's a divisional rival? And why didn't the Wizards retire his number? Because he didn't win anything with them. Why should teams like The Lakers, Detroit. Celtics, Jazz, Knicks retire that number when Jordan didn't play for them, win for them, and even cost them success and championships? This is a dumb take. Whether Jordan is the GOAT or not, it makes zero sense to retire his shirt league-wide. That is soft AF.
@tyjones9663
@tyjones9663 7 ай бұрын
He didn’t play for the other teams so why tf should they retire his number? This was dumb asf.
@DNGR369
@DNGR369 7 ай бұрын
Take that retire league wide with a grain of salt guys, it is unrealistic. I'm just making a point that numbers and legacy are intertwined. The amount of fumes coming from both of you just spell LeBron ball lickers. How embarrassing was it with 23 tho hey? Can't undo that one hahaha
@metathoughts732
@metathoughts732 5 ай бұрын
Melo got more defensive about the number 15 than he ever played defense on the court.
@jamelmoore4679
@jamelmoore4679 7 ай бұрын
I'm not even a Joker fan but Melo didn't win anything there he didn't deserve to have his # retired & Joker is the one that won there. Joker wasn't expected to be this great
@inkslinger5572
@inkslinger5572 7 ай бұрын
melo wanted out of denver,,,,he forced a trade
@josharch1992
@josharch1992 5 ай бұрын
Hey Joker do you wear 15 as an homage to Carmelo? “What’s a Carmelo? Is that candy bar?” Lmfao 🤣
@THEMANCURTIS
@THEMANCURTIS 7 ай бұрын
Joker was wearing #15 in his country!!
@joshbriggs540
@joshbriggs540 7 ай бұрын
For the record leaving Denver was Melo's idea. We were sick when he forced his was out, feeling was Melo was too big for our town. You make choices Melo, live with them. But we don't have to retire your jersey or put a statue up for you, and besides Jokic likes it here. Enjoy your millions, but don't be whiner. BTW, Bruce Brown is beloved in Denver, he had to get paid elsewhere...we get that.
@ProjectExMachina
@ProjectExMachina 7 ай бұрын
Denver should retire BB's jersey ASAP😂
@FreshPrinceofBelize
@FreshPrinceofBelize 7 ай бұрын
Knicks did bad letting Randle get #30 and not retiring Bernard King
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 7 ай бұрын
Actual history of a franchise, Bernard King
@prussianblueppt
@prussianblueppt 7 ай бұрын
Jokic was a project player, no one knew hes going to be this great. They thought he was a longshot thats why they drafted him during a taco bell commercial.
@sebastiancovac7879
@sebastiancovac7879 7 ай бұрын
magic gave no.1 when penny left, raptors gave no.15 when vince left, sonics gave no.40 when kemp left, sixers gave 34 when barkley left... dont know why they acting like teams dont give numbers of their former allstar players, especially if they didnt leave on good terms? if jokic didnt turn out to be the player he is, maybe down the line nuggets wouldve retired no.15 in honor of melo, but the way jokic turned out as a player its his number
@Zeus0886
@Zeus0886 7 ай бұрын
If you force your way to get traded to another team you should have no say about your old number. Jokic won a chip in Denver of all places. Enough said.
@knowmekingsquad9898
@knowmekingsquad9898 7 ай бұрын
So if he somehow forced his way out in the future (as a hypothetical) could he get his jersey retired
@Zeus0886
@Zeus0886 7 ай бұрын
@@knowmekingsquad9898 yea he could. the job is done. He put the banner in the rafters. Sometimes all it takes is one and your legacy is set.
@AP813-w7g
@AP813-w7g 7 ай бұрын
They’re salty that Melo held em hostage to go to NY. Even though the nuggets won the trade
@MarcoDeLasVegas
@MarcoDeLasVegas 7 ай бұрын
1st: As long as your number isn't retirered or planned to be retirered, you don't own shit. 2nd: "out of respect for Melo"??? Didn't he forced his way out? So why does he deserve this kind of respect he didn't shown himself for his franchise?
@georgereynolds2276
@georgereynolds2276 7 ай бұрын
It sounds like these guys are more concerned about a Jersey number than about a player playing Team basketball. A phrase Melo was completely unfamiliar with.
@ScorpionFXSniper
@ScorpionFXSniper 7 ай бұрын
Agent 0 worried about a jersey number, what’s your ring count heard it’s the same as your number
@Treavon24
@Treavon24 7 ай бұрын
Nahh we didn’t know jokic was gone be like this we wouldn’t had said nun if he was trash melo stop being salty
@hebrewking6040
@hebrewking6040 7 ай бұрын
I wore no.23 in high school and everytime I saw someone wear the number I represented made me feel so good.
@markusmolnar8701
@markusmolnar8701 7 ай бұрын
The look on Kenyon’s face when Gil said Melo had a better legacy with the Knicks then the nuggets lmao
@patricija4179
@patricija4179 7 ай бұрын
2012/2013 and 2013/2014 Anthony Randolph wore #15 for the Nuggets. Stop it.
@Roadrunner0077
@Roadrunner0077 7 ай бұрын
Gone be hard for Nuggets to retire Melo 15 w the way Joker playing
@Bo55edup
@Bo55edup 7 ай бұрын
"With the way Joker playing." Lmao 😂🤣 man just won them a championship🏆 and you talking about the way he playing🤦‍♂️ he could have a downward trend from this point on and never win again and they'd still have to hang that jersey just off the strength of the chip🏆🤷‍♂️.
@fauxbro1983
@fauxbro1983 7 ай бұрын
​@@Bo55edupand his 2 regular season MVPs and jokic been making the case he still belongs in conversation
@PeteringYT
@PeteringYT 7 ай бұрын
Jokic could retire now and he would still be the best nugget ever.
@KingThomas150
@KingThomas150 7 ай бұрын
It should not even be a discussion. #15 should only be retired for Joker. He led the Nuggets to a championship, has a finals MVP and 2 regular season MVPs. Carmelo accomplished none of those things as a Nugget and plus he forced his way out of Denver.
@Roadrunner0077
@Roadrunner0077 7 ай бұрын
@@Bo55edup you literally saying what I said I'n a diff way for likes fruit lmao
@investorbettor505
@investorbettor505 7 ай бұрын
The had the opportunity to do with him what the Heat did with Hardaway and Mourning. They may not have won it all but they started the organization on the right path
@josephbanks888
@josephbanks888 7 ай бұрын
Naw he left 13 years ago it’s too much of a gap for us to credit any of the recent success to Melo.
@outlandishworld6183
@outlandishworld6183 7 ай бұрын
Except mourning did win
@tropickman
@tropickman 7 ай бұрын
Carmelo left Denver disgraced! Never met any of the expectations; never led Nuggets to success. He was known as a selfish player & a ball hog who focused on padding his individual stats. Acted like a primadona towards the end & demanded a trade from Denver. Why would Nuggets honor Carmelo? For what precisely?
@joshbriggs540
@joshbriggs540 7 ай бұрын
​@@tropickman I watched Melo his entire time in Denver. LOved his game and he had a will to win. Camby, Kmart, Melo, and Chauncey with JR coming off the bench...that was a squad! Just couldn't get past Kobe in Western Conference finals. On the court I did not think he was selfish. Time has revealed there were chemistry problems with Coach Karl.
@Grind2Excellence
@Grind2Excellence 7 ай бұрын
@@tropickmanCarmelo made Denver relevant. He instantly made them playoff team & title contenders.
@demepalau
@demepalau 7 ай бұрын
Jokic best nuggets ever. Jeremy Lin, only Asian Knick superstar, Karma.
@freezybreezy1001
@freezybreezy1001 7 ай бұрын
How tf is it disrespectful melo forced his way out of Denver. It’s not like he gave them a chip or something so why are the nuggets entitled to do anything for him besides a tribute and their not even entitled to do that😅. Melo was nice in Denver but no doubt jokic surpassed melo using the same jersey number he just butt hurt.
@hellboy30098
@hellboy30098 7 ай бұрын
Well also Melo left in 2010 after a rough patch trade with denver, Jokic was drafted 4 years later , I think that's plenty of time
@ted6580
@ted6580 6 ай бұрын
I remember reading a story years ago about how at his birthday event, his superstar friends were already making public jokes about teaming up on another team and when the GM was giving a speech and he jokes about them teaming up on the Nuggets, he got a cold reception. Basically shows how things ended with Carmelo in Denver. He never won anything, he wasn’t exceptional, they had a bad ending, so they owe him nothing.
@onestopfunstop317
@onestopfunstop317 7 ай бұрын
Melo never won anything, anywhere. He Destroyed every team, every coaching staff, every organization he's ever played for. Don't why everyone love the guy so much.
@andrewpugh9322
@andrewpugh9322 7 ай бұрын
Is everyone going to gloss over the fact that Anthony Rudolph wore No.15 for the Nuggets in 2014 before they drafted Jokic during a TB commercial?
@Adj8llk
@Adj8llk 7 ай бұрын
Melo's legacy: inefficient iso ball hog team cancer playoff choker and a cone defensively
@ccr35582
@ccr35582 Ай бұрын
Bruh they literally gave 15 to Anthony Randolph before Joker. They gave it to a dude who got drafted during a Taco Bell commercial. They did not give a damn about trying to erase anything. Melo just has main character syndrome. Gtfo.
@most5795
@most5795 7 ай бұрын
This is a reminder that no one owes you anything. Anything given after that be thankful and grateful. Even if the ending was sour
@ItsYuhBoyyyy
@ItsYuhBoyyyy 7 ай бұрын
They really believe they thought a guy drafted during commercial would become this great?😭
@Chronoic
@Chronoic 7 ай бұрын
Melo is still hated in Denver, Melo never took the time like Lebron to build back the relationship in Denver (Cleveland), he bail on Denver like a spoil brat. Melo is a Knick, if you want to retire his number you do it. He doesn't deserve shit in Denver.
@azrudaz9096
@azrudaz9096 7 ай бұрын
SHEER ENTITLEMENT!! Kenyon IS NOT entitled to 4!! In fact, HE DOESN'T EVEN CARE about its "history/legacy/why he can't wear it". He's just mad HE can't get what HE wants!!!! He was a ONE TIME All Star. AS A NUMBER ONE PICK. So Jokic done CLEARED him too!!
@ohyababyohyea
@ohyababyohyea 7 ай бұрын
Yall remember when Lin became the star over Melo in NY? Melo is one of my favorite players but i also know every year he played was like eminem releasing another album it just kept tarnishing his legacy and melo never helped himself out in any way anywhere he went truly a top 10 scorer but damn Melo this is a hard reality you gotta face.
@stefantomas
@stefantomas 7 ай бұрын
If one’s legacy comes down to jersey number it’s not much of a legacy.
@Mike-lr3ui
@Mike-lr3ui 7 ай бұрын
Melo DID NOT force his way out of Denver he was gone be a free agent and they DIDNT know if he was gone resign with them so they traded him for something instead of being left with nothing
@mirkomladenovic4870
@mirkomladenovic4870 7 ай бұрын
Jokić is wearing #15 in Denver since he arrived, that is arround 10 years, question is why now is Mello upset.
@Brofesional
@Brofesional 7 ай бұрын
If you demand a trade and you didn’t win a chip your number is not yours anymore
@roanm7987
@roanm7987 7 ай бұрын
Melo was petty when Jeremy Lin was getting the attention at NY and now hes petty with Nicola with this? He forced himself out of Denver. Sorry Melo the world doesnt revolve around you.
@mmawilldesha
@mmawilldesha 7 ай бұрын
When Melo left the Nuggets he didn't give a fuck what the franchise or Nuggets fans thought about him so this shouldn't matter.
@RomnysGonzalez
@RomnysGonzalez 7 ай бұрын
Arenas is such a hypocrite. He said exactly the opposite thing went he was with Shannon Sharpe. What i see and hear here is a bunch of clowns acting like they know what they are talking about it.
@hangtime1111
@hangtime1111 7 ай бұрын
Watching melo with the Knicks was cringy af highschool basketball IQ at best
@tc3115
@tc3115 7 ай бұрын
Melo should be more upset about Jeremy Lin fans who try to blame him for Linsanity falling off. Instead of talking about teams figuring him out they love going with the jealousy narrative.
@tiismuna
@tiismuna 7 ай бұрын
They can both even retire that #15. They were both great. Why not let the 2 great Nugget share retire that number?
@PeteringYT
@PeteringYT 7 ай бұрын
Because Jokic is the best Nugget EVER. He brought them their only championship. He deserves his own number and a statue. He should not share it with someone who gave up on the franchise.
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 7 ай бұрын
If Jokic was black this absolute disrespect wouldn't even be heard The guy is Mr Nuggets, retire his jersey along with Melo's?....
@tiismuna
@tiismuna 7 ай бұрын
Ok guys i heard you. I'm not even ok with the Melo retirement in Denver because he doesn't want to be there. Just to silence pro and anti melo. Why not both. But no statue for Melo. Even if they have different numbers. Melo wouldn't even have the reputation to have his number retired there.
@cashmeoutside23
@cashmeoutside23 7 ай бұрын
y’all are so stupid u not giving a 2nd round pick a number that was supposed to be your franchise player.unless they knew jokic was a future 2x mvp
@TheMonstas
@TheMonstas 7 ай бұрын
Melo chased the money and a random 2nd round pick become a legend. He simply missed an opportunity to get any jersey. Jokic didn’t care about any legacy, he asked for 15 and club gave him 15.
@dansilvester661
@dansilvester661 7 ай бұрын
Dude is a two time MVP and Champion and used to wear 15. Get over it he left the team. Who cares if he was a 2nd round pick. What has Melo.done ? Won a scoring title and a couple first and 2nd teams. Jokic doesn't care about drama. When he said he used to wear it and it was available so he took it then thats the case with him.
@hailin3228
@hailin3228 7 ай бұрын
melo just needs to think of it as jokic continuing his legacy not erasing it. everytime jokics numbers come up its a free ride for melo.
@ult7511
@ult7511 7 ай бұрын
I always remember Melo as a Knicks, and Melo should stfu on Denver because Nuggets got a guy now that respect them, and love them, a guy that will deliver them into stardom.
@condawg6833
@condawg6833 7 ай бұрын
Idk who it was but jokic wasn’t even the first player to wear 15 for Nuggets after melo left… Melo is my favorite baseball player ever but his take on this is an L. Gil is right Melo will always be more a Knick than a Nugget
@josephartemis8406
@josephartemis8406 7 ай бұрын
even arenas is not defending melo but instead talk about facts, No freakin way nuggets gonna retire 15 for melo, jokic brought a chip and 2 season mvp, K-mart is too into how he feels please just stop.
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