Nikon Z 100-400mm vs 70-200mm f/2.8 with a TELECONVERTER? THE FIELD TEST

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Жыл бұрын

You asked and so we've answered - we've finally managed to compare the Nikkor Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S against the 70-200mm f/2.8 VR S + TC-2.0x
We were looking for sharpness, speed of focusing and overall convenience, and the answer isn't as easy as you'd think...
We shot this in a live field environment, so although they aren't lab tests they do give an accurate idea of how the equipment would perform in real-world situations.
In this video:
70-200mm f/2.8 VR S
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100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S
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Teleconverter TC-2.0X
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@davekorzekwa8727
@davekorzekwa8727 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Nice comparisons and well done.
@fredkrieger278
@fredkrieger278 Жыл бұрын
Great piece of work again.
@NikCan66
@NikCan66 Жыл бұрын
always brilliant video yet informative
@Trish12303
@Trish12303 Жыл бұрын
Awesome review!! I am old school and am still hanging on to my D850, but also shoot with a Z6. Most of the reviews that I have seen for the new 100-400 S lens have been on the Z9. Your review of both the 70-200 and the 100-400, with both of the tele-converters, was perfect!! Thanks very much for sharing this comparison!!
@charlesdavis6371
@charlesdavis6371 Жыл бұрын
I won't say you've made my decision of which to buy first any easier - but I GREATLY appreciate the info. TY for doing this.
@MTLGavros
@MTLGavros Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video entertaining and informative. Thanks to you both
@markusbolliger1527
@markusbolliger1527 Жыл бұрын
Very useful comparison, thank you so much! It helped me to make finally my decision for the Z 100-400 S, plus TC 1.4, instead for the Z 70-200 S plus TC 2.0. Both are outstanding combinations, but for my nature and landscape photography the 100-400 + TC 1.4- combo is even more versatile in the field. It also has a shorter minimum distance - great for smaller animals which are 1-4 meter away. Kind regards from Switzerland.
@KibbitUpIt
@KibbitUpIt Жыл бұрын
love the GBBO vibe of your videos
@tbgtom
@tbgtom Жыл бұрын
Excellent review, thank you
@WallyHughes
@WallyHughes Жыл бұрын
Great review! Thank you.
@jannicawunge4940
@jannicawunge4940 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you!
@patrickmolloy6994
@patrickmolloy6994 Жыл бұрын
I used the z70-200 wh the 2xTC in the Galapagos recently - I tried to rent the 100-400 but its so rare! Pretty pleased overall
@czort123
@czort123 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for a great comparison, I was really curious how those lenses perform as I considered both. Finally, I'll go with 70-200 + TC 1.4 to have that bit extra focal length
@DouglasPaterson
@DouglasPaterson 2 ай бұрын
Thanks very much guys this is exactly what I wanted to know!
@radicalrenegade8528
@radicalrenegade8528 Жыл бұрын
This was a good video. Informative. Maybe some sample files one of these days?I like the bloopers at the end of your videos. I don't get why you're only at 14k subscribers cuz you guys are fun. Oh yeah, Happy 4th of July from America.
@davidwhite6281
@davidwhite6281 Жыл бұрын
Helpful and confirms my choice for the Z 100 - 400 plus the 1.4
@Bob4golf1
@Bob4golf1 Жыл бұрын
I am fortunate to own both lenses and the Z9 so this isn't an issue for me however, I will say that my experience with the Z TC 2 teleconverter is that image quality is a little softer on focus than I would prefer. Still usable images, you can see the softness as you travel across the face of the lens. I don't think you will be unhappy with either solution although some may find the softness unacceptable.
@orionorion2405
@orionorion2405 Жыл бұрын
Excellent !
@Azeemmerchant
@Azeemmerchant Жыл бұрын
Lots of Love ❤🙌
@nickprice1st
@nickprice1st Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the way you both present this ,well done. Still can’t hit that checkout button though as I’m dithering around so much . I get all the pros and cons for both. I know I want to have a crack at wildlife photography but will i regret not going all in on a 100-400 with tele converter for that extra distance compared to the 2.8 of the 70-200 or then having confused myself even more looking at the 200-500 with z converter mount . HELP!
@AdaptingCamera
@AdaptingCamera Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Interesting comparison since I am about to buy the 100-400, or the 70-200 + 2x TC. Sine I mostly need the 200-400 range, I think the 100-400 is the best option.
@davidjohnson4451
@davidjohnson4451 Жыл бұрын
Good video. I was considering buying the Z 800 PF but at 6500 for my Z 9 and 100-400 Z lens I'll just get the 1.4 TC.
@randallbrander8157
@randallbrander8157 Жыл бұрын
Ok I think I will get the 100-400mm. I was on the fence with the Z 70-200mm F/2.8. I have the F mount equivalent of the Z lens thru Tamron. The less weight of the lens and longer focal length will suit me fine. BTW picked up another Z 28mm F/2.8 SE lens and slapped it on my Zfc which I also have it on the Z5 and love the lens. HDR is fabulous especially doing video. Question: Why not use the Z5 on video with the 1.7 crop with the 100-400mm? Stay Safe and Keep Smiling! Cheers! BTW the state bird for Alaska are Mosquito. 🦟
@Mr09260
@Mr09260 Жыл бұрын
Make mine the 70-200 f2.8 and the 400 f4.5 plus 1.4 S x convertor
@sithbk0075
@sithbk0075 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison. This is what i have been waiting for, a review on 70-200 vs 100-400 z mount with TC. I have 70-200 with TC 2x and shoot surfer. It was a little soft but it was a user error. My shutter speed was below 400. Next time I’ll try to shoot above 1000. Though i ordered 100-400 and it’s arriving this Sunday to pair with my Z9. So now I’ll need to sell my trusty 200-400 f4. Love to keep it but it’s just too heavy with Z9.
@P3ak930
@P3ak930 Жыл бұрын
what was your experience. Which do you recommend on z9. Thanks
@DirkLiepoldPhotography
@DirkLiepoldPhotography Жыл бұрын
Just in time review - very good - excatly what I was thinking about for the last weeks!!! Going to Antarctica in Dec. and having nightmares about how to carry my 200-400 beast (that I bought and used specifcially for some Africa Safaris - where I loved it, shooting off a beanbag as support from SafariJeep - no tripod). I thought of bringing my old D800 and leave the F 200-400 on there and my Z6 with the Z 24-70. I used aNIKON TC F Mount converter before and was very dissapointed and sold it. I was looking into the Z 100-400, but I think your video convinced me to use my Z 70-200 instead and get the TC 2.0 converter and invest the money I saved into a second Z body. Having two Z-bodies instead of one Z and one F will aslo make life much easier. So if I get good results out of this set-up in antarctica I might sell my beloved F200-400. If this does not work as expected I might have to chase you down:) - because I probably won't get a second chance to try this out in Antarctica... So anyone interested in a used Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-400mm f/4G ED VR II Lens - conctact me. It would make my decision even easier.
@kevinhinesphoto
@kevinhinesphoto Жыл бұрын
I didn’t get that good of image quality with the 2x teleconverter on either lens. The 1.4 is great though.
@marydoo7311
@marydoo7311 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@rajeshgopal9635
@rajeshgopal9635 Жыл бұрын
Very useful!
@gerryphilpott9766
@gerryphilpott9766 Жыл бұрын
I liked this format you chose for showing the differences and similarities, and the options available. I have the 100-400 and debated on that or the 70-200 and since they were the same size/weight and basic IQ, I decided on the longer reach and have the TC 1.4x coming one of these days. I have other options for portraiture so the longer reach to a potential of 560 at just under f8 suits my needs. I don't use that distance often but I'm going to carry any lens that weight, I want the payoff if the occasion presents itself. Thanks as usual for all things Nikon. Hoping you'll have some good firmware news on what seems to be my forgotten Z 7ii. All the hype on the better processor for upgrades and it's not getting the love...
@mattiasbacklund5617
@mattiasbacklund5617 Жыл бұрын
I purchased a Z50 body instead of a TC för my Z6. Happy.
@t.k.1448
@t.k.1448 Жыл бұрын
It probably makes a difference if this decision represents the "long end" of a person's lens portfolio or is intended to cover the middle range. In my case, 75% of my photos are at 400mm or more. So the question becomes are the remaining photos mostly between 100 and 200 or between 200 and 400. This decision would be a lot easier if Nikon would finally release a Z 200-600 f5.6 (weather sealed, internal zoom!). Focal length versatility is one issue, but the option to open up to 2.8 is always welcome. Nonetheless, a very informative comparison - thanks!
@Testprinz
@Testprinz 9 ай бұрын
Hi guys, I use the Nikon Z 70-200mm 2.8 with a tele converter TC 2.0. I had had very good results with it on a safari. I could also imagine List 1.4 Tele Converter could work a little smoother and better, since it also offers more light intensity. But overall I am absolutely convinced of this lens. Alternatively, I would probably use the 400 mm 4.0 fixed focal length
@ambujamlaksmikeyes5263
@ambujamlaksmikeyes5263 9 ай бұрын
Can i use a nikon teleconverter with a Tamron zoom lens on a nikon z camera?
@michaell5038
@michaell5038 Жыл бұрын
Try using bean bags, when resting on logs etc, at least it would keep lens free from damage. Monopod/ tripod even better.
@MiamiVPG
@MiamiVPG Жыл бұрын
I found the same thing as well. 70-200mm with the 2.0x telelconverter at 200/400mm was a bit soft.
@chrishilton6378
@chrishilton6378 Жыл бұрын
Indeed the 70-200mm with TC2.0 is a little soft. I've been using this combo for over a year and can confirm. It still provides great IQ but if you're looking for the tack sharpness at f/5.6 this might leave you a little short at times. Also, I'll add that if you have the resolution to crop the other option is just crop the 70-200mm image in post or use DX mode. DX mode gives a 1.5x crop and delivers 20mp images. So consider that you could, with DX mode get out to 600mm equivalent on both options.
@GBB70
@GBB70 Жыл бұрын
70-200 + tc 2.0 is my choice. Just one photographer's opinion. But I also own the 500mm pf so an easy choice for me. So many choices these days. Wow.
@ChrisJHintonphotography
@ChrisJHintonphotography 2 ай бұрын
Are you satisfied with the quality /sharpness ?
@CloverPhotoandVideo
@CloverPhotoandVideo Жыл бұрын
The 100mm-400mm with the 1.4 teleconverter gives me 560mm, a little more reach than the 70mm-200mm with the teleconverter. So that lens makes sense for me.
@JEtamBenCo
@JEtamBenCo Жыл бұрын
I wish I could get one 1.4 for my sigma 100-400 mm e-mount
@TonyHedges
@TonyHedges Жыл бұрын
The real test is the 100-400 v the 400 4.5? Get Ricci on the phone. Tell him the people are demanding, there may be a revolt if you don't get one. Or is it the people are already revolting? Yes, I run a shop too! ;oP
@free-qe6wx
@free-qe6wx Жыл бұрын
Ricci did post a video with some preliminary results. The Z 100-400 and the Z 400 f4.5 are virtually the same in terms of sharpness at 400mm with no TC's. He did show the Z 400 f4.5 with the 2x TC vs the Z 800, and I was surprised how badly the Z 400 F4.5 performed at 800mm. No one expects phenomenal results with a 2x TC, but it looked very poor to me. Much worse than the Z 70-200 or Z 100-400 when they are paired with the 2x TC. Its very preliminary, though, so take this with a grain of salt. Also, Ricci's sharpness test is not the be all end all of sharpness tests. I am more interested in seeing field results than lab results.
@davidowen6817
@davidowen6817 Жыл бұрын
Nice comparison and summary. I also loved the music, but I don't recognize it. What is it?
@graysofwestminster
@graysofwestminster Жыл бұрын
We've added the music to the bottom of the description for you :)
@jayladouceur4704
@jayladouceur4704 Жыл бұрын
What you should test is simply running the images shot on the 70-200 through Gigapixel Ai. Do that and you may agree that what we already have, is, thanks to Ai software ...a far more sensible option than forking over thousands of dollars foe a heavy, inconvenient lens that with today's software, is about as practical as a boat anchor in your camera bag.
@jpa244
@jpa244 6 ай бұрын
i have the Z 70/180 F2.8 I think that I will get the TC 1.4 to have a 100/250 F4 and when I need i will use the DX crop of my Z7 for a 150 375 F4.
@richardpette
@richardpette Жыл бұрын
That was exactly what I wanted to know! But I already have the 70-200 f./2.8, damn! I can't have both, can I? So I think I wait for the 200-600.
@patrickmolloy6994
@patrickmolloy6994 Жыл бұрын
that's why I got the 2xTC - as a stop-gap until we see the 200-600 in ... 2024?
@indrajitadvani3742
@indrajitadvani3742 Жыл бұрын
I'm in the same boat. I have 70-200 Z and it's great but I need extra focal length. I'd love to be able to save $$$ and use a TC but I feel I probably need 400 4.5 or 200-600 Z. But which one?! Anyone, any thoughts?
@carlb401
@carlb401 Жыл бұрын
Soooo disappointed with this, not one flower shot taken by Becky. 😭😂
@mattiasbacklund5617
@mattiasbacklund5617 Жыл бұрын
What about bokeh and back light contrast? Sharpness is not everything. I would love to see a comparison of the two with an evening shot full open with some various light sources in the background. Candles, Christmas lights, traffic lights, sunlight, leaves&branches etc. I did not make my decision yet, but for sure I will not purchase both. Did anyone do wedding with the 100-400? I mean, the lenses weigh the same, so having the extra 200-400 is almost for free, is my opinion. ISO will compensate for the less light. I do have a 2nd body and 24-70 and the 85. f1.8.
@marcelosrocha
@marcelosrocha 11 ай бұрын
Lindos cervos, ficaria muito feliz com a 70-200, mas ambas são excelentes lentes, vou escrever uma cartinha para o Papai Noel e ver se o bom velinho me presenteia com a lente e uma camara Nikon Z8 tambem, hehe. Abraços, Sucesso e Deus vos abençoe.
@Willymaze
@Willymaze Жыл бұрын
The 70-2020 held up really well IMO. Now that the 400 4.5 enters the match I'm curious to see how much better to the former with 2X TC looks like.
@Mr09260
@Mr09260 Жыл бұрын
I will have both for African Wild Life >> the 100-400 isnt as sharp on the Long end and over priced as a result
@bar_288
@bar_288 Жыл бұрын
nice video.. but i am waiting for 200 600 patiently like a stone.😇
@Joseph-iu6ip
@Joseph-iu6ip Жыл бұрын
I’m also waiting for the Z8ii.
@chrishilton6378
@chrishilton6378 Жыл бұрын
Same. Screaming silently every single day.
@richardpette
@richardpette Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@oscarjeong9438
@oscarjeong9438 11 ай бұрын
Even though 100-400mm f4 has some advantages, I can't leave 70-200mm f2.8 behind anyways...those slight differences will be fixed with AI software.
@EugeneMaynard
@EugeneMaynard Жыл бұрын
👍🏾🙏🏾
@annijoshle-th8kp
@annijoshle-th8kp 10 ай бұрын
Can you use 2x2x ? So in total 800mm instead of 200mm?
@graysofwestminster
@graysofwestminster 10 ай бұрын
no you can't.
@jamesoliver6625
@jamesoliver6625 Жыл бұрын
You need to give music credits. I kept watching for the music, not the lens work inasmuch as the economics of these lenses and TCs is beyond me at this time.
@graysofwestminster
@graysofwestminster Жыл бұрын
We've popped the music credits in the description for you :)
@gosman949
@gosman949 Жыл бұрын
Great video to watch some 200 and something years later after we got freedom from you blokes!
@grantking4681
@grantking4681 Жыл бұрын
??????? What's that got to do with a lens comparison? Oh, was there a similar comparison done 200 and something years ago you missed and you've only just got your freedom so you've now been able to watch? D-H.
@gosman949
@gosman949 Жыл бұрын
@@grantking4681 haha. Happy 4th!
@graysofwestminster
@graysofwestminster Жыл бұрын
Happy 4th!
@mainemonty
@mainemonty 3 ай бұрын
Just crop .save your coin
@DmitryMeshcheryakov
@DmitryMeshcheryakov Жыл бұрын
You really need 70-200 + 200-600. And SONY body :-D
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