Nikon Z 24mm f1.8 Lens REVIEW | DON’T BUY IT…Unless

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Jared Polin

Jared Polin

4 жыл бұрын

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This is a review of the Nikon Z 24mm f1.8 Lens. While out in Las Vegas I was able to hop a flight with Maverick Helicopters out to the Grand Canyon to test out this lens.
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@froknowsphoto
@froknowsphoto 4 жыл бұрын
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@panasonicism
@panasonicism 4 жыл бұрын
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@LazyMitchell
@LazyMitchell 4 жыл бұрын
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@melaniechambers8946
@melaniechambers8946 4 жыл бұрын
Canon 70-200 L 2.8 MKlll
@kuyaChrischan
@kuyaChrischan 4 жыл бұрын
people who get so surprised when Jared says "horizontical" are clearly new to his channel he's been saying that for years
@cliffholt2973
@cliffholt2973 4 жыл бұрын
The “Red Trigger” is not for missiles or guns but used to key the transmitter for the radio.
@jonweinraub
@jonweinraub 4 жыл бұрын
Cliff Holt what about on a jetliner yoke? I’ve seen multiple buttons and still can’t figure it out. I always thought it was related to autopilot or trimming.
@AudioArcturia
@AudioArcturia 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonweinraub I think the one you're referring to is the autopilot cutoff switch. It's in a quick spot so in an emergency you can grab it and detatch AP without having to take your hands off the stick/yoke
@terwelle
@terwelle 5 ай бұрын
It is the autopilot disconnect button
@cesareunno2198
@cesareunno2198 4 жыл бұрын
When you are watching Jared Polin even if you don’t have a Nikon
@guddakaka
@guddakaka 4 жыл бұрын
He is making videos for non Nikon users.
@tubularificationed
@tubularificationed 4 жыл бұрын
here :) I have a Nikon DSLR. Z videos are naturally interesting, regardless from whom they come, as long as they are from brand agnostic trustworthy reviewers. However, in every such video, an AF misery seems confirmed again and again for Nikon Z, from the very Z beginnings until now. Only Nikon fanboys seem to be a bit more docile, of course, but they don't count, like no fanboys of any brand would do. They are "influencees" rather than "influencers".
@guddakaka
@guddakaka 4 жыл бұрын
@@tubularificationed I use D850 and Z6 on regular basis. Z6 AF is actually very good but Jared Polin knit picks stuff all the time and suggests Sony cameras and lenses are perfect. This not true! His Sony and Canon videos are more like paid ads if you pay attention to his tone. Reviewing Nikon products even his tone is so negative. S lenses are winning awards on all reputable websites but he always finds something to whine about and spew out negativity.
@visionimages-vipv
@visionimages-vipv 4 жыл бұрын
@@guddakaka Agreed! I have been noticing that for awhile now!
@juzzonmorris
@juzzonmorris 4 жыл бұрын
Yo I don't know why Nikon can't seen to get their lense game right. It's actually sad considering Nikon's history. I switched back to Canon recently, and I truly doubt I'll ever come back to Nikon. I like their cameras more than I liked their lenses. As for me and my money, both have to be on point if I'm going to spend my hard earned money on a cameras system. Nikon has been in the game way too long, not to be better in both departments.
@FoxMacLeod2501
@FoxMacLeod2501 4 жыл бұрын
I've personally had trouble autofocusing on crows, specifically, with a few different lenses and bodies. I think the sheer blackness of the bird is just tricky for a lot of systems. That's my two-cent crackpot hypothesis, anyway.
@cooloox
@cooloox 4 жыл бұрын
I have several cameras and amongst them I have a tiny Canon EOS M50 and an M5 as street photography cameras. The AF is generally fantastic and has no issues tracking birds in flight and I even one day nailed tracking dragon flies! But guess what, it struggles with small dark birds, sitting on a branch with lots of branches and twigs, or simply sitting on the ground, like the one Jared couldn't focus on. It happened to me today, coincidentally. It confirmed focus, but I could clearly see it was out-of-focus in the EVF. I took a few shots just in case and yep, out-of-focus. Really weird, it focuses in situations I wouldn't expect it to be able to, then fails on a little bird LOL. Admittedly, the bird has to be in a busy background for it to fail.
@carljarvinen1189
@carljarvinen1189 4 жыл бұрын
The plant is called Ocotillo, gets small reddish flowers when bloom.
@flyinciv9523
@flyinciv9523 4 жыл бұрын
Carl Jarvinen but don’t fall on them😂
@Hornbauer2010
@Hornbauer2010 4 жыл бұрын
Bought this lens few days ago for my Z6 and it's awesome. Crazy sharpness and the bokeh is so smooth. Like it much more than the 24 1.4 sigma. 950€ are not cheap but ok
@oscamyr3613
@oscamyr3613 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy it with Nothern Light photo.
@tomd4260
@tomd4260 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it's an awesome astro lens
@lescobrandon3047
@lescobrandon3047 4 жыл бұрын
I’m curious... how much does Sony pay you?
@PanicLuNaTiC
@PanicLuNaTiC 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jared! As from my experience using Z6 since august last year, i have same "problem" with autofocus. I think is just a matter of tweaking the algorithm to prioritise closer subject in the focused area. So, the "problem" is that the box sometimes is too big, and pin-point setting is preferred but is slower to focus and slow to move around. Also while using smaller box, autofocus system goes back and forward because of fewer points and especially in lower light but is way accurate on smaller subjects (i got some awesome focused wedding rings, right on the diamond stone). For example, i got a couple of missed shots of people when i focus their heads because the AF box is bigger than their heads. So, you need to workaround and focus on chest for example. So, from accuracy prospective, Z system is awesome and better than DSLR because it reproduce that result over and over again while my DSLRs missed when it doesn't supposed to miss. As for a great tip, map some button for 200% zoom while shooting. Once you zoomed to 200% in shooting mode, camera use AF-S to focus even is set to AF-C and that's how you focus precise and kinda fast on something small.
@RobbyPedrica
@RobbyPedrica 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think many people are worried about bokeh on wide-angle lenses ...
@laeicawezlar4417
@laeicawezlar4417 4 жыл бұрын
you would be surprised.. quite a lot
@Mebtaku
@Mebtaku 4 жыл бұрын
It’s because not many users will consider wide angle for portrait or any other type of photo where shallow DOF just “delivers”. I love my FE 28/2 must admit it is difficult but rewarding.
@Mr09260
@Mr09260 4 жыл бұрын
With my 50mm f1.8 S lens ..that focuses instantaneously on my Z7 ...Everytime
@egor1g
@egor1g 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Betts yeah, I have 50 and 24, and must say, 24 really have some AF issues(and huge fall off). It is slow and misses some time. But anyway 24 mm 1.8s have some magic, I like this lens a lot.
@chandlermcgowan2038
@chandlermcgowan2038 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah my 50 mm 1.8 is fine too. Jared just hates on Nikon a lot lol.
@Honkus
@Honkus 4 жыл бұрын
50 f18.s and 85 1.8s I own both are super quick focus and no noticeable hunt/misses that I see with the 24 1.8s that tested for a few days. 24 did resolve great images, but the focus was wonky on Z7 with latest firmware. Ended up not buying as I have the 14-30 f4 s and the 24 1.8 wasn't really a strong need, more of a curiosity.
@cooloox
@cooloox 4 жыл бұрын
@@chandlermcgowan2038 No, he shot with Nikon for years and will always have a soft spot there. He's calling it as it is. Did you even watch the video? He "SHOWED YOU" that the AF point was right over the STATIC bird. The camera confirmed focus, but was focused on the rocks in the background, not where the AF point was, clearly on the bird. This can happen, especially if the subject is small in the frame and surrounded by lots of detail. You have to manually focus when this happens. Edit: I did find a workaround! I initially focused on other things at a similar distance to the bird and then back on the bird and it kept failing. Then I focused on something much closer to the camera and back on the bird and it snapped into focus right away. Had that failed, I would have manually focused with focus peaking.
@MichaelCortese1
@MichaelCortese1 4 жыл бұрын
I went out and tested my 50 again today. which I've been shooting for months with close to ZERO issues with autofocus. Eye AF was super snappy..idk what Jared is shooting but it's honestly amazing the amount of hate he gives Nikon for what must be miniscule things.
@haurjie
@haurjie 2 жыл бұрын
I already have the 35mm f/1.8 of this lens, but currently am thinking about selling it to get the 24mm, would this be a good move or no?
@karlbratby4349
@karlbratby4349 4 жыл бұрын
Jared, you mention the front back focus thing the Nikon z cameras do, even though they are phase-detect is this similar to what we get with the Lumix S series with DFD Auto focus ?
@edwardperry4416
@edwardperry4416 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible the bokeh problem could be from atmosphere? I know I have similar bokeh that happens with my 400 2.8 now and then when there is heat radiating from the ground
@techhead976
@techhead976 4 жыл бұрын
Can I ask where your focus point was when photographing the father and son at F1.8? Thanks!
@TurboMiniTV
@TurboMiniTV 4 жыл бұрын
Just a note: Single blade apertures exist and have for a long time, they are mostly on consumer video cameras, basically a single blade moves across a v-shaped opening.
@iszaraelolam5311
@iszaraelolam5311 4 жыл бұрын
@Jared Polin Is the blotchiness of the terrain from the lens or is it the terrain itself is actually fluffed like that and looks that way? I've never really looked at pics of the GC or surrounding terrain so...
@michaelmorris2196
@michaelmorris2196 4 жыл бұрын
Curious how this compares with the Nikon F mount 24 f 1.4 or the Sony G master 24 mm f 1.4 which is around $1400.
@brian_db
@brian_db 4 жыл бұрын
Was that helicopter blade 1 or 9 blades? Did you try manually focusing on a dark object to figure that focusing problem? Great video.
@brad_in_yyc
@brad_in_yyc 4 жыл бұрын
The buttons on the yolk (or cyclic as it's called) are for comms, and for the hook underneath being able to release the hook (not always wanted), if a fire fighting bucket is attached, it'll open the bladder on it to release the water and not the hole bucket. Things like that. :)
@ericrjennings
@ericrjennings 4 жыл бұрын
I have the 24mm f/1.8 S lens and I love it
@egor1g
@egor1g 4 жыл бұрын
Did you have any 24 primes before? Is it always have so much fall off?
@ericrjennings
@ericrjennings 4 жыл бұрын
Егор Владимирович I don’t have a fall off issue
@lilnape2604
@lilnape2604 4 жыл бұрын
@@egor1gThere's not that much fall off: www.ephotozine.com/article/nikon-nikkor-z-24mm-f-1-8s-lens-review--34224/performance
@maxdmachy
@maxdmachy 4 жыл бұрын
awesome convincing presentation of your RAW - packs! The bokeh - with the shrubbery I love it. With the landscape, I totally agree. Is it something related to the glass, shape of the aperture blades? I would bet it's the image improvement algorithm - messing around in RAW! And - should Nikon open up to Sigma? totally agree
@dogblessamerica
@dogblessamerica 4 жыл бұрын
There just isn't enough subject to background distance to give actual bokeh is my bet. The dof is so deep at 24mm that the background was only slightly out of focus even at 1.8
@keithgoreham1463
@keithgoreham1463 4 жыл бұрын
It's not an "image improvement algorithm". It's a rotational micro-motion blur that's probably being caused by the rotational VR in the lens at high shutter speeds. Jared's 1/640 sec cockpit pic (#47) barely shows that effect, and his 1/160 sec Canyon pic (#80) doesn't show it at all. But the rest of his images go from 1/1250 sec to 1/8000 sec, and you can see it clearly in those. Turning off the lens VR (but not the IBIS) would probably get rid of it.
@maxdmachy
@maxdmachy 4 жыл бұрын
@@keithgoreham1463 That's most interesting. Obviously Jared had to use fast shutter speeds to show the bokeh at all in the bright light. With customized settings turning off these functions is probably dead-easy! Thank for the advice!
@jaydigshistory36
@jaydigshistory36 4 жыл бұрын
Jared I have the same focusing issue with my 24-70S and 35S
@mithunachar
@mithunachar 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jared.. can you suggest any good Cine Prime lens with Nikon Z6?
@happythec1am
@happythec1am 4 жыл бұрын
That focus issue seems odd. I never get that on mine. Is it a video thing?
@josechomali
@josechomali 3 жыл бұрын
Could that weird bokeh be happening due to the electronic shutter? (since it has problems with fast movements, considering stabilization)
@miguelangelsanchez8225
@miguelangelsanchez8225 4 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about good or bad bokeh?
@eddierohwedder2766
@eddierohwedder2766 4 жыл бұрын
The "trigger" is a push-to-talk. When talking to air traffic control, he pulls the the trigger to transmit his mic output. Other switches on the stick could be trim/flaps/etc (airplane - not sure on a helo)
@Gael32
@Gael32 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who goes out to photograph birds whenever I have a spare minute I can tell you that the blacker they are the harder it is to get an acceptably in focus shot. I'm at the point where I will just manual focus birds such as Grackles, Red-shouldered Black birds, Ravens and Crows.
@ronboe6325
@ronboe6325 4 жыл бұрын
Your "bush"" is an ocotillo. Looks dead most of the time, but leafs out like crazy with any rain and has really cool flowers.
@neilmccaughan5149
@neilmccaughan5149 4 жыл бұрын
Before the invention of crowbars, most crows drank at home.
@Steeles240
@Steeles240 4 жыл бұрын
I've seriously been looking at picking up techart's tce-1 adaptor so i can put some of that third party mirrorless glass for sony onto my z6
@frankberlin8084
@frankberlin8084 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jared, I've had this lens for a while and have to say I'm happy. But - unlike you, I mainly use it to photograph architecture and flowers. Since I do not have the problem with the autofocus. But it's true that the Nikon Z series sometimes brings you to the brink of despair when it comes to autofocus. I don't have that problem with the Panasonic S1R. I will get the 16-35mm f / 4.0 lens next week and I am excited to see if there are the same problems. Have a nice weekend and see you soon.
@MischiefGamingShow
@MischiefGamingShow 4 жыл бұрын
What’s better fro pack 1 or 2?
@gunnarlade4689
@gunnarlade4689 4 жыл бұрын
Is it really an issue to focus a black thing (for DSLM)..?
@tallaganda83
@tallaganda83 4 жыл бұрын
Thankfully I don't use 24mm for bokeh, its a landscape lens and even if doing environmental portraits, what is the point including the environment if it is out of focus? Im sure a blurred out cityscape might look cool but who knows in the situation the bokeh might be good.
@MichaelMRoth
@MichaelMRoth 3 жыл бұрын
The AF should be much better with the z6ii or z7ii, right. Also with THIS 24mm f/1.8.
@danr6255
@danr6255 4 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed by how little you used the word * Again * Jared. Great video, loved the wind tunnel test as always haha
@ItsPinecone_911
@ItsPinecone_911 4 жыл бұрын
Skittles is my favorite preset of fropack 1 and 2. I like others as well but Skittles is by far my most used one.
@tristenpride5268
@tristenpride5268 4 жыл бұрын
When are you reviewing the Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 for Sony E mount?
@1dbjack
@1dbjack 4 жыл бұрын
Don't have the focus issues with my Nikon 50 and 85 1.8 but do on occasion with the 24 at the lower f-stops. Just curious why shoot all of your photos at f1.8? most of us rarely use that in the situation you used it? The autofocus issue goes away by f4.0. As for the bokeh, who expects to get stunning bokeh on scrubby canyon walls?
@sramabadran
@sramabadran 4 жыл бұрын
doesn't the focus point turn green when it locks focus ? I seem to recollect seeing that with the 24-70 f/2.8mm
@marcelalainphotography9635
@marcelalainphotography9635 4 жыл бұрын
Shiva Ramabadran only in af-s, he must have been using af-c
@damionsteele9207
@damionsteele9207 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. But no long exposure shots, Jared? I would have liked to see what it could do on a tripod.
@froknowsphoto
@froknowsphoto 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t use tripods I’m not the guy for that.
@ECPUz
@ECPUz 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully 2020 will be a good year for Nikon Z-Mount lenses.
@NOFKL
@NOFKL 4 жыл бұрын
More of the cheap f1.8 S lenses which are not cheap in terms of price! Finally the first f1.2 lens which they should have done in the first place, because why make z mount and than make this f1.8 lenses, look at canon what amazing glas they do f1.2 and f2. Nikon will kill of the z mount anyway with the D780 and come to see a DSLR-Hybrid (with optical and digital viewfinder combinded) and f mount lenses is the real way to go!
@MichaelCortese1
@MichaelCortese1 4 жыл бұрын
@@NOFKL nothing cheap about the 1.8s they shoot some amazing photos
@keithgoreham1463
@keithgoreham1463 4 жыл бұрын
​@@kapapa3764 If you're willing to use manual focus, you can get an F-Mount 25mm F0.95 Zhongyi SpeedMaster for just $350. Eat it Noct!
@NOFKL
@NOFKL 4 жыл бұрын
@@kapapa3764 i don't know because i have only seen two pros using a mirrorless camera in my area, all the other keep using DSLR as i am too, because canon can't keep up with there mirrorless bodies in return. Yes, i would buy them, i know what i am talking about because i own all the 1.4 nikon produces execpt the 28mm and i also own the 200 f2 and 400 f2.8. Further more all the prime sigma art lenses and they only have 1.8 when necessary 14mm and 135mm. Lastly look at the build for the z mount lenses than look and feel the f mount and art lenses and tell me the z mount lenses don't feel cheap!
@floeable
@floeable 4 жыл бұрын
@@NOFKL Z-mount lenses feel absolutely as nice as the F-mounts! 24-70 f/2.8 Z feels every bit as good as the f-equivalent (except the Z does not suck). The 1.8's feel every bit as good as the 1.8 f-mounts. Yeah the 1.4's f-mounts feel better, but so is to be expected, since they are real pro-glas. I assume the future 1.2's and 1.4's Z-mount will do the same. The Z mount is a HUGE step forward in image quality over the F-mount. Nikon just need to speed up and put out the pro glas...
@gerardcoste68
@gerardcoste68 4 жыл бұрын
why do you use such high shutter speed? 1/5000 to take a still picture of a branch??? what am I missing Jared.
@MichaelMRoth
@MichaelMRoth 3 жыл бұрын
What is the special meaning of 1/640s exposure? Surely for sports something about 1/500 ... 1/1000s will be useful. But why exactly 1/640? Is it like a preset of cams?
@floods0ftears
@floods0ftears 4 жыл бұрын
You've never seen bokeh like this before but have you ever shot any other 24/1.8 lens on that location? Bokeh from your other examples looks perfectly fine.
@benmichener6569
@benmichener6569 4 жыл бұрын
The trigger can sometimes be used for talking on the radio with other aircraft but that is usually the red button but it can be the trigger it depends on the aircraft
@cubanphotographers
@cubanphotographers 4 жыл бұрын
just got my z6. so so happy with it. no complaints so far. great cammera
@mygoodstuffreviewed
@mygoodstuffreviewed 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, for 24mm I'd be happy to just use the 24-70 F4 S lens. I don't think I'd be likely to use F1.8 with a 24mm for the type of shots I take. I did get the 35mm F1.8 S for lower light situations with street photography. I'm not sure the 24mm is a pleasing focal length on FF to my eyes for that kind of shot. Interesting about the focus issues you seem to have had. I haven't really had many problems (a few, but not many) with my Z6 but then again I'm not really pushing it to the extremes of performance. I guess ultimately there's no single answer for any of us. We have to find what works best for us, not someone else.
@pipeder
@pipeder 4 жыл бұрын
have you try Nikon Z with Capture one yet?
@johnlavin-ford8372
@johnlavin-ford8372 4 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are fantastic.... I really appreciate them immensely... Ty from theUK
@anandhua.b4589
@anandhua.b4589 4 жыл бұрын
when you're watching all Jared's videos for the giveaway
@JourneymanActor
@JourneymanActor 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who shot a lot of landscape I'd wait for the 14-24 2.8. Very rarely do you need to excessively blur out a mountain. Most landscape guys like sharp detail and a 14-24 would give you more creative options in terms of composition.
@lokatpic
@lokatpic 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting but it's not for me. Have you done a comparison between Prime lens and Zoom lens. I have Nikon 24-85 F 2.8 D lens and for me it's fine. I understand why you jumped to Sony. The focusing but my DSLR are fine for me.
@RealRaynedance
@RealRaynedance 4 жыл бұрын
That weird bokeh thing happens with my Samyang 35mm f/1.4 AF lens too when I'm a little too far away from something and shooting wide open. Don't know what causes it either, but that makes two lenses that do it. Though it should say something about the $1000 lens if it shares a $550-ish lens's issue.
@robertgrenader858
@robertgrenader858 4 жыл бұрын
I think the "trigger" on the control yoke activates transmit on his radio.
@Phantommxr
@Phantommxr 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Print!!!!! It shall be framed and cherished... thanks again Mr. Fro!!!
@awretchedslug
@awretchedslug 4 жыл бұрын
The bird could be focused on if you zoomed twice in the evf and manual focused. I do this all the time on my z50.
@everythingsharp
@everythingsharp 4 жыл бұрын
How does this compare to the 24mm 1.4 g master ??
@nightfury4756
@nightfury4756 4 жыл бұрын
Jaeger Schtulmann you are pretty sure? Have you checked any of the performance comparisons of these two lenses? You being pretty sure does NOT make it a fact.
@nightfury4756
@nightfury4756 4 жыл бұрын
Anthony F try both of them in a camera or better rent both and decide. Also, you can watch the lens performance comparisons provided by lensrentals or dxomark..
@lifewithoutborders1348
@lifewithoutborders1348 3 жыл бұрын
Bro,comparing a pro lens with standard lens is not justified.wait for Nikon to release 1.2 versions
@patricksmith2553
@patricksmith2553 4 жыл бұрын
Wrong, the 24mm f1.8G also has a 72mm front filter size and the 20mm f1.8G actually has an 77mm front filter size, I have both and love both so I know, but no big deal lol.
@stepheneckert4006
@stepheneckert4006 4 жыл бұрын
Patrick Smith to clarify, he was talking about the prior 1.8 Z lenses, not f-mount. We should have been more clear on that
@patricksmith2553
@patricksmith2553 4 жыл бұрын
@@stepheneckert4006 Oh I see, haha oops sorry than!
@stepheneckert4006
@stepheneckert4006 4 жыл бұрын
Patrick Smith no worries! Our fault for not specifying!
@CharlieVN
@CharlieVN 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the Lens has a tilted element (damaged)?
@ronaldmoravec2692
@ronaldmoravec2692 Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear my Z7 2 AF is working as designed. Hunting is minimised if to use single point instead of pin point. I am old school and use single point, back button, and recompose as required.
@matthewwells1606
@matthewwells1606 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't sound like you ever learned how to really use the Z focus system. Mine doesn't hunt like that. It's fast and accurate with no hunting. At 7-8 lenses a year the Z system is going strong. ETA: With the Z50, you should be able to handhold the 24mm down to about 1/20 pretty easily if you've got good technique, but I know you like IBIS to pick up your room for you.
@froknowsphoto
@froknowsphoto 4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t learn to use the focus system? What?
@matthewwells1606
@matthewwells1606 4 жыл бұрын
@@froknowsphoto You seem to have outsized problems with an excellent AF system that other people have no problems with. Screams user error.
@sniperv
@sniperv 4 жыл бұрын
I care about fringing and CA, it looks terrible and ruins photos if it’s excessive. Aperture blade count typically tells me how round and smooth the bokeh can potentially be. So I care about that too. YMMV
@DECKARD263354BR
@DECKARD263354BR 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if pinpoint autofocus mode would have made a difference on that crow as the subject is a fair distance away and the focal length was quite wide, worth a try !
@PatrickFeldhusen
@PatrickFeldhusen 4 жыл бұрын
maybe.... but the situation ist quit difficult for contrast focus. the bird itself ist only black for the camera, no change to catch a focus if you point only the bird. the background is full of edges, a contrast focus like to grap. it think, the same problems are for phase detection. best way, try to set the focuspoint half an the bird, half to the background, hope that the camera detects the edge between bird and background. if you don't change the setting, try to use backbutton focus of the z6/z7. press and hold the button, if you now turn the ring on a z-lens, you see peaking and your able to correct manually.
@DECKARD263354BR
@DECKARD263354BR 4 жыл бұрын
@@PatrickFeldhusen Thankyou your comment was very useful, i have missed focus on a number of shots for similar reasons.
@keithgoreham1463
@keithgoreham1463 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jared... (looks at RAWs) The "weird bokeh" that you point out in image 65 (and that I see in most of the other images) looks like a radial micro-motion blur to me. Meaning that either you were rotating the camera slightly around the center axis of the image, or your lens' rotational VR system was. Probably the latter, because it's the images with the highest shutter speeds that demonstrate this the worst. Note particularly the motion-smearing of the spindly bush stems (at what should be a solid 1/1500 sec). The bush nearest the man is the least affected, while the other two are a mess despite being in the same image plane. They're not out of focus so much as smeared, and this is consistent with a how a radial motion blur would be more pronounced at the edges of the image than the center. In image 137 the crow is out of focus, but there's a clear directional blurring going on too. Which would also be consistent with a slight rotation around the center of the image. Even though you shot that one at 1/8000 of a second, and both it and the bush should not have had any motion blurring whatsoever. This reminds me of the tendency for micro-motion blurring that I used to see on my D850's (it's a high-megapixel thing), and is why I always turned off the lens VR at shutter speeds faster than 1/500 of a second. It might be worth your time to run some brick-wall tests with the lens stabilization (not the IBIS) turned on, and then off. Maybe with another native VR lens as a control.
@chuiwyjustin
@chuiwyjustin 4 жыл бұрын
New word "horizontical"
@Jigsaw407
@Jigsaw407 4 жыл бұрын
It's ancient, actually... Jared has coined it years ago!
@blakecaccavale6057
@blakecaccavale6057 4 жыл бұрын
If helicopters are like airplanes, then the trigger is the radio transmit button. 👍
@dimitri.scripnic
@dimitri.scripnic 4 жыл бұрын
f1.8 is not only for better separation but it's also important for low light photography and astrophotography.
@ralphpeteranderl4063
@ralphpeteranderl4063 4 жыл бұрын
I wish there would have been a long exposure shot of stars - or any highlights against a dark background, just to see how well the lens deals with fringing, bokeh etc.
@TheGreatrix8
@TheGreatrix8 4 жыл бұрын
Those buttons do a number of different things but generally those small triggers are "Push to Talks" for the radio
@HR-wd6cw
@HR-wd6cw 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't have VR? Some how I think photographers have managed to still get sharp shots without VR in every lens. Yes it's helpful, as is IBIS but a good photographer will also knkow how and when good technique trumps the technology. Plus it's my feeling that VR isn't as effective at shorter FL which is why many short FL lenses (under 50mm or so) are not stabilized (from many brands, not just NIkon). I'm wondering if the focusing on the Z's tries to mimic how one would manually focus. At least I've been instructed (for manual focus) to throw the lens out of focus, then slowly dial in focus until you think it's sharp and then a hair past that, then back off again to ensure you've found the sharpest focus. I have seen on some cameras where it will lock focus, and then a fraction of a second later, readjust and re-lock focus again, very subtly so I'm not sure. I'm sure if the Nikon Z's do this on all lenses, it's by design and not necessarily a defect or problem. It's maybe Nikon's way of ensure sharpest / the most accurate focus and likely has to do with the camera not having cross-type focus points. I will say that it would be nice if the camera would change the focus point color (when in AF-C mode) to tell you it's in focus, or at least show the little dot in the lower corner of the EVF like it does on DSLRs to indicate that the lens if focused, but for some reason, Nikon doesn't do this. Even if the focus point could flash green and then go back to red, to confirm it has locked focus, that would be nice.
@DamonBowe
@DamonBowe 4 жыл бұрын
It just isn't giving a lot versus the 24-70 2.8. I'm waiting for the 1.2...
@steveg2417
@steveg2417 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jared, “Shrubbery” (Yes a Monty Python reference) = Ocotillo
@KeLlErBoY1992
@KeLlErBoY1992 4 жыл бұрын
This "problem", whit the focus, i have it only when i shoot whit PIN focus...
@phelanwolf6747
@phelanwolf6747 4 жыл бұрын
I really hope Nikon will license the Z-Mount to Sigma and Tamron. That way they kill 2 birds with one stone: 1. Make money when Sigma and Tamron make money. 2. Increase the lens variety for the Z-mount and thus making the Z plattform a lot more attractive. (Catch up to Sony and Canon faster)
@AshBashSneakers
@AshBashSneakers 4 жыл бұрын
with the bird yes thats annoying.. but shooting really dark subjects can be tricky.. but simply twist th ring focus peak for a second boom done
@Nonixification
@Nonixification 4 жыл бұрын
Is the IBIS in the Nikon is 2 or 3 axis stabilization?
@Dan.gibson.photographer
@Dan.gibson.photographer 4 жыл бұрын
Sandor Bako 5 axis stabilization 😉
@Dan.gibson.photographer
@Dan.gibson.photographer 4 жыл бұрын
Sandor Bako 5 axis stabilization 😉
@Nonixification
@Nonixification 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dan.gibson.photographer oh thanks i really could just look it up ;) good to hear.
@Dan.gibson.photographer
@Dan.gibson.photographer 4 жыл бұрын
Sandor Bako 😄
@nradcliffe4484
@nradcliffe4484 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the bundle and its saweeeet thanks Frobro
@HwL01
@HwL01 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the crow is too small and has nos contrast at all? I doubt EOS R can do it too if u slap a 24mm prime on it and do the same...
@froknowsphoto
@froknowsphoto 4 жыл бұрын
These other cameras would not have an issue.
@Korschmin
@Korschmin 4 жыл бұрын
​@@froknowsphoto Absolutely, I think the issue was in the twelve inches behind the camera. :-)
@eldindokara7868
@eldindokara7868 4 жыл бұрын
I owe you a drink. Hahahahahaha
@anhtran9111
@anhtran9111 4 жыл бұрын
Jared, it's not just the small bird. I was trying to take photos of my friend who is a full size human and it back focus... I was like what the hell? That was the last straw before I returned the z6
@krolbren9231
@krolbren9231 4 жыл бұрын
joystick?
@abhishekhajare4500
@abhishekhajare4500 4 жыл бұрын
Can anyone will please explain me why he was shooting landscapes with higher f-stops? 😅 I'm a beginner photographer
@Kennetheutopia
@Kennetheutopia 4 жыл бұрын
Abhishek Hajare to have everything in focus
@abhishekhajare4500
@abhishekhajare4500 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kennetheutopia By higher f-stops I meant at F1.8 n f2.8. Etc....
@MichaelCortese1
@MichaelCortese1 4 жыл бұрын
Higher f stops increased your Depth of field, which in turn gives you greater sharpness before and after your subject in space. Kenneth is right. To test this yo outside to a flower and shoot it at f/1.8, and then shoot it at f/11. You'll notice that at 1.8 the background will be indecipherable, lots of bokeh. You may also notice that not all of the flower is in focus, maybe a certain park of a portal. This is because at 1.8 you have a shallow depth of field so very little is on focus. At f/11 you'll see all of the flower in focus and you can make out much of the background as well. In landscape shooting at higher f stops is preferred because you get more of the landscape in focus. Portraits are usually shot at low f stops to give a nice bokeh and keep the attention on the person. Try it out for yourself!
@abhishekhajare4500
@abhishekhajare4500 4 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelCortese1 you are totally right... But he was using f4 for taking landscape shots.. 😅
@LordArioh
@LordArioh 4 жыл бұрын
@@abhishekhajare4500 if you're referring to 8:22 image it's a 24mm, so it will all be in focus anyway.
@kakhak
@kakhak 4 жыл бұрын
Quality video and a great camera.
@thesharpercoder
@thesharpercoder 4 жыл бұрын
Which is better: image stabilization in the lens, or image stabilization on the camera sensor? I believe in the lens is best. I believe that IS in the lens is better than IS in the camera, simply because image stabilization is tuned for a given lens. Many super telephoto lenses have IS mode switches, so that you can tune IS behavior to match how you are using the lens. Can you do that with an IBIS enabled camera body? Not that I know of.
@khaderach19
@khaderach19 4 жыл бұрын
For telephoto - it's best to have both IS on the lens and the body, that's why the new Z mount 70-200 f2.8 has VR.
@michaelsurbock5182
@michaelsurbock5182 4 жыл бұрын
How is it possible that this lens is bigger than the Sony 24mm 1.4?
@JohnDrummondPhoto
@JohnDrummondPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
No good reason that lens couldn't focus on the crow. Was it the lens or the camera's focusing system? Either way, it's a massive fail.
@1slkss
@1slkss 4 жыл бұрын
John Drummond it’s a Z series problem when trying to focus on low contrast subjects.
@jimmeyer4530
@jimmeyer4530 4 жыл бұрын
Jared, you seem a little more calm than usual - voice is a little more toned down, more explanation and less selling. I like it!
@MrLogandm
@MrLogandm 4 жыл бұрын
First off I definitely just spent 844 on a 85 1.8 s for z50 idk who’s stupid enough to only use the kit lenses but they’re not good enough for dark environments indoors. If you’re not buying the primes you’re not benefitting from buying into the system at all
@khaderach19
@khaderach19 4 жыл бұрын
I oNLy ShOot PriMeS...
@kathleenjones415
@kathleenjones415 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice the chromatic aberration on the back of that guy facing the canyon when shot at 2.8?
@avi5802
@avi5802 4 жыл бұрын
The "yoke" as you called it is actually called cyclic and the trigger on the rear side of it is to transmit on the radio
@padkirsch
@padkirsch 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information! 😊
@keithgoreham1463
@keithgoreham1463 4 жыл бұрын
That makes sense, as you have to keep both hands on the controls in a copter.
@nephilimink4969
@nephilimink4969 4 жыл бұрын
I really need a good camera
@MichaelMRoth
@MichaelMRoth 3 жыл бұрын
The z6 and z7 really often seem to be weak in terms of AF and subject recognizing (like with "dynamic area" mode) regarding the black bird. Sometimes you really wonder, how many years technology needs to come close to human capabilites ;-) The question is, if we gotta blame it to the 24 mil lens. Perhpaps another review? Thanks anyway, always funny & interesting to watch your review!
@wghutton61
@wghutton61 4 жыл бұрын
would love this camera thanks
@nemanjabudimcic1381
@nemanjabudimcic1381 4 жыл бұрын
You need great bokeh from 24mm lens :) the problem with focus is in camera not in lens ... i hope that you will have once again nice content on you channel, big fan of you but it is to much sony/nikon ...
@RD5500
@RD5500 4 жыл бұрын
"dark black" really?
@RaymondParkerPhoto
@RaymondParkerPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good enough reason to add the 24mm to my S lens collection.
@bricemyfoto8907
@bricemyfoto8907 4 жыл бұрын
I like Video with a 24 as well as for landscapes but that price, Id rather get a 35 and a 14 1.8...if that day ever comes.
@Eye-V.
@Eye-V. 4 жыл бұрын
The Crow is actually one of my favorite movie. I don't get the reference...
@Taraeth
@Taraeth 4 жыл бұрын
The lead actor got fatally wounded during the filming of this movie. There was an error with a gun that actually shot him.
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