Nikon Z 600mm f6.3 REVIEW: SHOCKINGLY AMAZING Wildlife / Sports Lens (vs 180-600mm)

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Jared Polin

Jared Polin

8 ай бұрын

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This is a Review of the Nikon Z 600mm f6.3 VR S PF Lens. Is this one of the greatest 600mm's ever made...possibly. Keep in mind Nikon has a 180-600mm, a 600mm f4 TC and now this one. That's a lot of great options for you Nikon shooters to choose from. This lens will be great for wildlife and nature, as well as sports and motocross. It's light and easy to hand hold, and the images are fantastic when paired with the Nikon Z9.
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@JuanSanchez-zz3me
@JuanSanchez-zz3me 7 ай бұрын
People complaining about the 600mm pf having the same aperture as the 180-600mm, as if the 500mm pf didnt also have the same aperture as the 200-500mm. The point of the pf is size, weight, speed, iq, build, and probably a few other minor things. Also, its nice to just have options. If the difference in performance isnt worth it to you, just get the zoom. The people who this lens is for already know why they want it
@taylorhickman84
@taylorhickman84 7 ай бұрын
Gotta love when people complain about something that is good for them
@michael-masi-2021
@michael-masi-2021 7 ай бұрын
I agree. Very few people seem concerned about the sealing, and if they are happy to pack it up when it starts to rain .. good for them. The build quality, sealing and lighter weight are what I will be buying, price be damned.
@deviantMystro
@deviantMystro 6 ай бұрын
I used to roll my eyes at weight, now, I'll pay every penny to shave weight off. Makes a huge difference for me with how long I can be out in the field before fatigue sets in.
@brandonklemets2958
@brandonklemets2958 7 ай бұрын
for anyone curious, nikons jerky VR is the sensor and floating lens element resetting to dead center after your shot so they have the maximum room to move on all their axis for your new shot.
@kanitdechkhum1690
@kanitdechkhum1690 7 ай бұрын
The only I don’t like is when ever I have all my composition right exactly where I want it after you click the shutter it shifted a little bit so I have to make sure I’m framing for a little room to adjust . Or I ll just change it to sport mode and move on .
@froknowsphoto
@froknowsphoto 7 ай бұрын
It's not great when trying to get your composition correct. Canon and Sony do not do this and it's an issue when taking photos with a Nikon/. It's annoying, it's distracting and it messes up your composition.
@Skulclaimr
@Skulclaimr 7 ай бұрын
Thats why you have 45.7 Megapixels! To crop into a composition!@@froknowsphoto
@pierrevilley6675
@pierrevilley6675 7 ай бұрын
@@codebunnies My 200-500 VR re-centers the element on every shot in normal mode, that was especially noticeable on my D810, but is still quite there with my Z6 (a bit less noticeable since the sensor re-centers as well), so it is not only on stacked sensors.
@michael-4k4000
@michael-4k4000 7 ай бұрын
​@@froknowsphotobut Jared, not sure if u mentioned enough about how bad Nikons Auto focus is..... "Nikons auto focus is the worst"- Jared Polin
@Realletsplaygrey
@Realletsplaygrey 7 ай бұрын
Nikons lens lineup is incredible
@bigbrownmab189
@bigbrownmab189 7 ай бұрын
Looks like Nikon might be able to take over the non pro wildlife shooter market, the 400 f4.5, this 600 and the 180-600. Crazy performance for crazy non bank breaking prices compared to the F4's !!!! I do want the 180-600 though for myself.
@bencollins7684
@bencollins7684 7 ай бұрын
Or even the pro wildlife shooter market as well? Their 400 f/2.8 TC, 600 f/4 TC and 800 f/6.3 lenses are unparalleled and significantly cheaper than the competition.
@timurhant469
@timurhant469 7 ай бұрын
and the 800! So practically, You have 400, 600 and 800 phase fresnel lenses that can compete in resolution but not in terms of depth of field with more expensive TC versions. Very clever NIKON. The expensive ones have a TC so you can buy the 400mm and can have 600mm, or the 600 and can have 800mm.
@janwedek
@janwedek 7 ай бұрын
"Non pro"? This is a $4800 lens! Sure, it's cheaper than $15k but it's not exactly "entry level" :)
@Simoneister
@Simoneister 7 ай бұрын
Yes "non pro". It's an enthusiast lens, for hobbyists with money. There's lots of those!
@sgpork
@sgpork 7 ай бұрын
Well. Somebody earns 10 grand a month some earns 2 grand a month.. so. Good that there are options so consumer can choose.
@JohnMacLeanPhotography
@JohnMacLeanPhotography 7 ай бұрын
I'm a Canon user, but the Nikon PF series is what Canon and Sony needs to make. PS - It's Fre-nel, not Freznel.
@IanHobday
@IanHobday 7 ай бұрын
As a Sony user, very much agreed. The Sony 200-600 is an amazing lens (as is the Nikkor 180-600), but the option of the 600/6.3 and 800/6.3....incredible.
@timwmoore2133
@timwmoore2133 7 ай бұрын
It’s America….Feznel!!!
@Carl_Aznable
@Carl_Aznable 7 ай бұрын
@@timwmoore2133 i work in the us film industry for the last 30 yrs and we have lights with fresnel lenses and the pronunciation has always been "fruh-NELL"
@Youtuber-ku4nk
@Youtuber-ku4nk 7 ай бұрын
@@timwmoore2133 USA is not a country to look up to.
@thomastuorto9929
@thomastuorto9929 7 ай бұрын
@@codebunniesdoes the new bird Af actually work? I hope so because I’m in the Nikon camp but haven’t gone mirrorless yet!
@johnforbes4795
@johnforbes4795 7 ай бұрын
I've had the Z 180-600mm f5.6-6.3 since Day 2 of the preorder period. I'll stick with that lens and its versatility for now, although I'll admit the 3lb of the new Z 600mm f6.3 sounds luscious for hiking in National Parks, etc.
@SeddersShots
@SeddersShots 7 ай бұрын
Was in Africa this year with my father, spent 8 days in the Okavango Delta shooting, bringing the 600mm f/4 was the best decision I could have made, absolutely spectacular shots, 90% of my shots were with it, worth every penny
@janwedek
@janwedek 7 ай бұрын
Lots of pennies too! :) Sounds like a great trip with a great lens to match for sure
@michael-4k4000
@michael-4k4000 7 ай бұрын
Did u do any hunting for wild animals????
@SeddersShots
@SeddersShots 7 ай бұрын
@@michael-4k4000 Only hunting with a camera :). No actual hunting allowed where we were on safari @janwedek Yeah it was a hell of an expense, but for the amazing photos and memories captured that I’ll treasure forever plus getting to use such an amazing piece of technology for the rest of my life wherever I want, well worth the spend
@davblec
@davblec 7 ай бұрын
Excelent !!! Did you can take some pictures hand hold?
@SeddersShots
@SeddersShots 7 ай бұрын
@@davblec I mostly used a monopod but there were definitely times I was moving quickly and switching subjects where it was pretty much hand held
@SolamenteVees
@SolamenteVees 7 ай бұрын
Agree 110% about the VR, Jared. It took me a bit to make the same adjustment on my 180-600 strapped to my Z6ii.
@myketripp3838
@myketripp3838 6 ай бұрын
I walked around the entire Phoenix Zoo yesterday and handheld my Z600pf and never tired of shooting with it. And I'm 64. I love this lens.
@danieldougan269
@danieldougan269 7 ай бұрын
If it were me, I'd get the 180-600mm and maybe save my money for the 800mm f6.3 to supplement it. The difference between the zoom and the prime at 600mm isn't so dramatic to justify the extra cost. That's not saying the 600mm prime is bad, just that the 180-600mm is really good and still gets you f6.3 at 600mm!
@IustinPop
@IustinPop 7 ай бұрын
How the tables have turned. A few years ago I couldn't have imagined this video title, on this channel :)
@dlevesque25
@dlevesque25 7 ай бұрын
For versatility, i'll go with the 180-600 on my Z8. 🙂
@szerszynski
@szerszynski 7 ай бұрын
It might just be me, but I think the eagle with the zoom is sharper than the prime.
@adrienlahalle5285
@adrienlahalle5285 7 ай бұрын
Same observation over here
@aliendroneservices6621
@aliendroneservices6621 7 ай бұрын
10:41
@martinh947
@martinh947 7 ай бұрын
First I thought the same. But as YT compress the videos a lot, RAWs would be the right way to compare the two lenses.
@stepheneckert4006
@stepheneckert4006 7 ай бұрын
You have to keep in mind this isn’t a direct 1:1 comparison shot. The axis was different on the prime resulting in what appears to be a softer image but all-in-all most shots taken w/ the 600 prime in general appeared sharper to our eye. It was the only “close” comparison shot that Jared had with both lenses to show the audience
@ktcool4660
@ktcool4660 7 ай бұрын
Nah
@DavidDatura
@DavidDatura 7 ай бұрын
Nikon are killing lately with their new glass! In the past the whizz bang glass was usually the L series from Canon…not so much of late though.
@grahamfloyd3451
@grahamfloyd3451 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely! I hope canon can compete. I'm just not excited by their 200-800 zoom. But I don't see how this 600mm lens has any advantages over the 800mm Z.
@thephotoyak
@thephotoyak 7 ай бұрын
You can drop shutter speed to 1/100 or even lower on a perched bird, get that ISO way down with modern VR and 20 fps.
@thor9722
@thor9722 7 ай бұрын
As I said when Canon came out that expensive 100 300 2.8, I know Canon only care about pros and fan boys. Nice job Nikon, another lens makes Canon user wants to switch brands. This 180-600 is going to destroy Canon 100 500 by both speed and price.
@brucesterlowden140
@brucesterlowden140 7 ай бұрын
I had the 180-600mm … very sharp but too heavy for daily walks which is what I want. So I returned it and await the light and no doubt magnificent 600 pf. I don’t need a zoom either for my use and so that also influenced me. But on sharpness alone the 180-600 looks excellent. I’m expecting it late October in UK.
@myketripp3838
@myketripp3838 7 ай бұрын
Got my z600pf just a day ago ... I love it. Canceled my pre-order for the z180-600 and am glad I did. (but Nikon did a good job with the telephoto)
@brucesterlowden140
@brucesterlowden140 6 ай бұрын
@@myketripp3838 Yes mine arrived on October 30th and has taken some fabulous pictures of visiting waxwings! Such a delight to maneouvre and hold all day. Super quick AF, sharp and beautiful colour contrast. Also performs very well with 1.4 TC
@johnrus7661
@johnrus7661 7 ай бұрын
Between the two, the prime. I'm a hard core birder and any extra sharpness means I can crop a bit more and still have great sharpness and more importantly when i use extenders it will be sharper. Plus the lighter weight and faster AF will be nice. If I didn't more landscapes stuff or if budget was a constriction, then the 180-600mm would be a great option.
@_zakkus
@_zakkus 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great review. Yeah 200-500 was mostly for bird enthusiasts shooting stationary animals with a pretty slow AF whereas 500 way lighter/smaller with twice as fast AF speed. Similar appears to be the case with 600 vs 180-600. Image quality will not necessarily be that different, but depending on what you need having many options is great.
@1337FoxTrot
@1337FoxTrot 7 ай бұрын
My 105MM MC Nikon Z does the herky jerky thing all the time! I thought there was something wrong with my lens. Feels better to know its just the VR Mode.
@ep_photography
@ep_photography 7 ай бұрын
Wow didn't see this coming! But, I am very happy with the 180-600 and don't see myself buying this lens. In regards to the clicky lens collar, while I get your point, there is a benefit to a smooth lens collar. If you slightly unlock it and mount it on a gimbal head your range of motion is amazing and very fluid. But, I could definitely see benefits in it being clicky as well.
@natalieauroraphoto
@natalieauroraphoto 7 ай бұрын
That comparison with the 180-600 was brutal. If you get this option, it's because that extra pound is very, very important to you. Because it ain't a question of image quality.
@scottboettcher1344
@scottboettcher1344 7 ай бұрын
Agreed. This review cemented the zoom as my choice... IF I ever step over to the Z-mount, at my advanced age.
@Youtuber-ku4nk
@Youtuber-ku4nk 7 ай бұрын
There is also quite a big difference in price
@kayintemann8925
@kayintemann8925 6 ай бұрын
Here's what I wonder. I bought the Z8 and am using my Nikkor 500mm pf lens with the FTZ converter. Does it make sense to upgrade to the z600mm 6.3 in your opinion?
@JaySilva88
@JaySilva88 7 ай бұрын
Seeing those comparison images side by side, considering the price and versatility of the zoom...I'd go zoom all the way!
@joydeep.vasudeva
@joydeep.vasudeva 7 ай бұрын
How does it compare with Nikon Z 400mm F4.5 with 1.4TC? Do you have any thoughts on it?
@fredmuellerphotographer4532
@fredmuellerphotographer4532 7 ай бұрын
Tripod collar click: How often do you get your tripod actually level. Without the detent it’s easier to use the in-camer level indicator
@jurrydevries4006
@jurrydevries4006 7 ай бұрын
I like this 600 prime a lot. The 600 f/4 TC might be better performance wise but it weighs a ton and costs a fortune, this new 600 mm balanced budgets and capabilities extremely well. If compared against the 180-600 It becomes a choice between versatility and durability and portability. The 180-600 being heavier bigger, no S line but versatile. Since I already own the 100-400 which offers plenty of versatility I prefer the 600 prime (which I ordered yesterday)
@kalenderquantentunnel9411
@kalenderquantentunnel9411 7 ай бұрын
Clicks on the lens-collar just get into the way when you have to do fine-tunings around that position. I prefer not having them but if you do more sports than landscape I see the point. Anyway, a minor point in my book.
@meloche1syndrome
@meloche1syndrome 7 ай бұрын
I really didn't know that 180-600 was less than $2k. I might have to try to budget it next year
@valeriesorrells
@valeriesorrells 7 ай бұрын
would love the prime... just can't fit it into my workflow. So I would probably get the180-600mm for now.
@videorezensent
@videorezensent 7 ай бұрын
The click on the tripod collar can be quite annoying if your tripod foot base is just slightly off the horizontal and you need to fix the collar at a 0.5° angle.
@jean-marcducommun8185
@jean-marcducommun8185 3 ай бұрын
Given the horizons built in the new cameras it's very easy to control it and I also think that it could even be a "problem" when you are just slightly of the center point.
@richarddenise3886
@richarddenise3886 7 ай бұрын
Great job from Nikon and you!
@thegreatlifeofjake
@thegreatlifeofjake 7 ай бұрын
Are you doing a review on canon 10-20mm? I need your input
@tpjverhoevenphotography
@tpjverhoevenphotography 7 ай бұрын
soooo, this weekend I got to play with ALL the big telephoto lenses at the Photo Days 2023 Expo in Brussels, Belgium. As well as the Noct and the Plena. I decided a day after the expo that I would get this one. Of course, the 600/4 TC was even better but that one is also 3 times as expensive here in Europe. I might keep saving for that one tho. What I do like is the weight of this one and indeed the overall portability. Image quality is top notch and undoubfully good, but I can assess that even better when it finally arrives. I purchased it directly from Nikon but there is a fairly (probably) large waiting list. We'll see. It eventually will get here. Hopefully in time for my Antarctica trip in March 2024.
@highdynamicphotographyfilm2235
@highdynamicphotographyfilm2235 7 ай бұрын
That’s a nice lens. Waiting for my 135mm f/1.8 Plena lens to arrive.
@josechomali
@josechomali 7 ай бұрын
Luckily not back focusing this time? Or just a Z8 problem?
@carloscipriani2438
@carloscipriani2438 7 ай бұрын
Fantástico. Ahora solo falta una D500 en versión Z mirrorless.
@gregoryz6545
@gregoryz6545 7 ай бұрын
Is tamron making all of Nikons Z glass still?
@russandloz
@russandloz 7 ай бұрын
The 500 pf will be more and more tempting as it still holds up brilliantly and getting cheaper on the used market. But really the 180-600 is a good choice for anyone for versatility, pro or not.
@kmulhall8233
@kmulhall8233 7 ай бұрын
The 500pf is fantastic on a Z9. These two new telephoto lenses are exciting.
@michael-masi-2021
@michael-masi-2021 7 ай бұрын
I just wish the zooming was all internal on the 180-600, that's what killed it for me. In some ways I'm glad they killed it for me, because I'll get this instead. So my bag will be 40mm 2.0, 85mm 1.2, 105mm macro, 135mm Plena, 400mm 4.5 and this 600mm. I have zero zooms and I love life. But.... I think I need 2 additional bodies, and carrying 4 is going to be a handful (pun intended).
@russandloz
@russandloz 7 ай бұрын
@@michael-masi-2021 why is the external zoom bad for you?
@russandloz
@russandloz 7 ай бұрын
@@michael-masi-2021 it is an internal zoom isn’t it on the 180-600?
@jphrabe8327
@jphrabe8327 7 ай бұрын
I think Mark Cruz said they were done doing the lcd on the lenses.
@escapetothesky
@escapetothesky 7 ай бұрын
24-120 f/4 and 600 PF ... good travel combo for Outer Space?
@ciureamihai
@ciureamihai 7 ай бұрын
Yess! Nice one! 🤩🤩
@Victor33
@Victor33 7 ай бұрын
Is it worth changing from 500pf to the 600pf ? I just ordered the z8 so I don’t know yet how the 500pf works with it
@tc6912
@tc6912 7 ай бұрын
I just traded my 500PF for the 600PF. I think it was worth the upgrade. I did not like the loose feel of the FTZ2 adapter between the Z8 and 500pf. The 600 feels more solid and seems to balance better. It seems to focus faster. The build feels more robust. The 600 has an extra set of function buttons. So far, image quality seems to be at least as good. The background renders better and it has 20% longer range.
@Victor33
@Victor33 7 ай бұрын
@@tc6912 thanks man. Appreciate it :)
@paulburnett8866
@paulburnett8866 7 ай бұрын
Had the 180-600 on pre order in the UK since July, no sign of it yet, was told could be the New Year 😢
@SuomiFinland78
@SuomiFinland78 7 ай бұрын
If I had to choose between 600 and 800 pf, I would go with 800. This 600 is too expensive being a 6.3 PF lens.
@tc6912
@tc6912 7 ай бұрын
I hope everyone agrees. This will increase my odds of getting it sooner.
@michael-masi-2021
@michael-masi-2021 7 ай бұрын
How much is the 600mm TC? Just saying.
@denegrindal1248
@denegrindal1248 7 ай бұрын
Being a weekend warrior I think I would go for the 180-600. I travel a lot and often take my camera with me just in case, so versatility is something important to me
@sgpork
@sgpork 7 ай бұрын
How I wish Sony also make long prime lenses like this. The f2.8 and f4 are too expensive and heavy and big for so many people. Especially if 1 dont make money from those photo or dont want to spend that much money.
@aliendroneservices6621
@aliendroneservices6621 7 ай бұрын
Buy the 200-600. $1,500 used.
@cameraprepper7938
@cameraprepper7938 7 ай бұрын
@@aliendroneservices6621 Too big and heavy, I had the Sony 200-600 and sold it !
@cameraprepper7938
@cameraprepper7938 7 ай бұрын
Yes, please Sony ! Make 300mm 4.0, 400mm 4.5 and 500mm 5.6 prime Lenses !!!
@El-Rico
@El-Rico 7 ай бұрын
I have the 400mm; with a TC it would make a 580mm f/6.3. That being said, I might still opt for the 180-600...
@cameraprepper7938
@cameraprepper7938 7 ай бұрын
400mm with 1.4x make it to 560mm 6.3
@timodings
@timodings 7 ай бұрын
I think as an amateur I would prefer using a 400 f4.5 with a 1.4x TC. It should be something around the same 600mm f6.3 and is a lot more versatile and cheaper.
@lolingsaraee
@lolingsaraee 7 ай бұрын
that's the way I went and more than happy with the decision
@tc6912
@tc6912 7 ай бұрын
My thoughts also, but waiting for a direct comparison.
@avromw7880
@avromw7880 7 ай бұрын
Just had a week safari in Africa using the 400 4.5 with TC 1.4 for 560mm. Was not impressed at all very very soft images at a distance and only sharp when subject was very close consuming the entire frame. Will def look into the 600mm PF w/o TC.
@cameraprepper7938
@cameraprepper7938 7 ай бұрын
I will get the 600mm 6.3 prime Lens, because it is so compact and light. I had the Sony 200-600mm which I sold, because it was too big and heavy carrying when hiking for a day. So Nikkor 400mm 4.5 and Nikkor 600mm 6.3 are great Lenses ! (Really, my heart beats more for the Nikkor 400mm 4.5 !).
@aliendroneservices6621
@aliendroneservices6621 7 ай бұрын
Or, get the 1,045g Sony FE 70-200mm F2.8 GM OSS II, with the 207g 2x teleconvertor. 400mm at f/5.6. Total weight: 1,252g vs. 1,390g for the Nikkor 600mm F/6.3.
@romanpul
@romanpul 7 ай бұрын
@@aliendroneservices6621 Why would you do that, when the Nikon 400 f4.5 is almost a whole stop faster and the same weight
@taylorhickman84
@taylorhickman84 7 ай бұрын
@@aliendroneservices6621 I just picked up the new 70-200 f4, depending on your subject matter the macro capabilities on the f4 is a worthy tradeoff
@taylorhickman84
@taylorhickman84 7 ай бұрын
@@romanpul versatility and depth of field
@romanpul
@romanpul 7 ай бұрын
@@taylorhickman84 The 70-200 with a TC will give you worse depth of field than a 400 f4.5 as it has a shorter focal length and a smaller aperture
@chennytango9298
@chennytango9298 7 ай бұрын
it is hard to pick the 600 pf over the 180-600 due to the 3x price and only so slight more sharpness which is quite negligible. if the 600 pf is f5.6 then maybe yes, but with the same f6.3 as the 180-600, really hard pill to swallow. I will definitely go for 180-600 and the remaining price difference will be used towards a z8.
@froknowsphoto
@froknowsphoto 7 ай бұрын
the good news is, they gave people options.
@garyswergold4096
@garyswergold4096 7 ай бұрын
The size and weight differences are huge for me
@ian-nz-2000
@ian-nz-2000 7 ай бұрын
The price ratio between the 200-500 f5.6 and the 500pf is about the same and they had no trouble selling the prime!
@JuanPacheco-gr5hr
@JuanPacheco-gr5hr 7 ай бұрын
I wish ALL S-line lenses would have had that gold ring...the lenses up to now looked mehhh!
@mjames978
@mjames978 7 ай бұрын
Would love a good VR lens but my old heavy Sigma 500mm APO is so sharp it crops equal to 800mm
@sgpork
@sgpork 7 ай бұрын
Hmm this is interesting. 600 6.3 prime. Isnt their 180-600 also 6.3 at the long end. Please do a comparsion of both lenses at 600 6.3. It would be interesting
@dcd
@dcd 7 ай бұрын
He does just that at 10:45. Images taken different times though.
@dcd
@dcd 7 ай бұрын
... also the subject's eye seems near center of the frame where both lenses are probably similar, we would probably need to see something at the edges of the frame to see if the prime had a clear advantage.
@swordz2330
@swordz2330 7 ай бұрын
You also have to remember that the prime is a kilogram lighter which is its main point
@sgpork
@sgpork 7 ай бұрын
@@swordz2330 need more in dept testing of this lens against the 180-600 to know if this 600 prime is worth it over the zoom. Currently only know its lighter. . But its more expensive and you lose all the flexibility from 180-599mm. Got to check if the af is alot faster at 600… the sharpness.. color? Etc.
@shortypictures
@shortypictures 7 ай бұрын
I am not 100% sure about the lens. As much as I like that they came out with a „affordable“ option, I think they have to many lenses in their own setup that compete with this one. I don’t know if it is possible but a f/5.6 for that lens would lift it out a bit more.
@daiooji
@daiooji 7 ай бұрын
I'm not sure why this is f6.3. 400mm prime is f4.5 compared to the 100-400mm zoom which is f5.6, so I thought it should be 600mm f5.6 or something like that compared to the 180-600mm f6.3. I know it is lighter and mayber sharper than 180-600mm zoom but still.
@sgpork
@sgpork 7 ай бұрын
6.3 probably to keep it smaller/lighter and cheaper. If its 5.6 it will be bigger heavier and more expensive? Likewise if its f4…
@Simoneister
@Simoneister 7 ай бұрын
Only 1390g is a huge selling point for some people
@sgpork
@sgpork 7 ай бұрын
Right. Its even lighter than 1500gram. Which is the weight of the old and usually 70-200/70-400 kind of telephoto zooms we used to have. At just 1.4kg and you have prime 600mm. It is pretty sick. Yes its 6.3. But when sun is up. This lens will have no problem. But now the question is comparing this 600 6.3 to 180-600 6.3. At 600. Is the prime af alot faster? Is it alot sharper?
@adamorgler
@adamorgler 7 ай бұрын
I came here once I got the email. I am confused. They just released the 180-600mm f/5.6-6.3. What's the point of point a prime if the aperture isn't any better than the equivalent zoom lens? Is this lens cheaper? This makes no sense to me. edit: apparently it's $4,800... wow
@karyleianawildernesscapes
@karyleianawildernesscapes 7 ай бұрын
Thought the same. My best guess is that it's the Z-mount answer to the 500/PF.
@cmdrls212
@cmdrls212 7 ай бұрын
Superior imagine quality, handling, af speed versus the zoom. That's why. This is an S class lens. The zoom is just regular.
@aliendroneservices6621
@aliendroneservices6621 7 ай бұрын
​@@cmdrls212IQ looks the same: 10:41
@Anon-zl4ne
@Anon-zl4ne 7 ай бұрын
It is really for people like me who have the 100-400mm and want a longer prime to go with it.
@richardmurray1858
@richardmurray1858 7 ай бұрын
@@aliendroneservices6621 the difference comes when looking at sharpness across the frame rather than just the centre. Both are great in the centre but this new 600PF is sharp right into the corners where the zoom takes a slight hit. The main difference is the size and weight, just like the 500PF years ago once you start using it regularly you realise the benefits. Both the zoom and this PF are fantastic offerings though, well done Nikon.
@mchristofas
@mchristofas 7 ай бұрын
Just seen you on tv in the Phillies win against the Braves !
@Poggio1964
@Poggio1964 7 ай бұрын
Nice to hear the Z600/6.3 is not that extremely better than the Z180-600/5.6-6.3. I got my 180-600 on the 30th of september 2023 and tried it in several occasions. Eventing (horsebackriding) and birds. And I really do like the lens! If the Z600/6.3 would be very much better I would have been very frustrated. But not in this case! Imho the picture of your eagle tells the whole story.
@colincarter3529
@colincarter3529 6 ай бұрын
Actually the 600 f/6.3 pf is a lot better when you move away from centre. If that doesn’t bother you get the zoom
@myketripp3838
@myketripp3838 6 ай бұрын
Z180-600 is not a prime with optimum quality corner to corner ... and the Z600 size and weight alone makes it worth it. I've had it a month and it just feels perfect. At the end of the day people can tell themselves it's the same ... but the pros are telling us it's not. The Z600pf is the "sweet spot" ... while the Z180-600 has a sweet spot. If it weren't about money, the majority would want a 3 lbs prime lens any day.
@SpaklesDr
@SpaklesDr 7 ай бұрын
I think that the screen is for zoom lenses. Not primes. and it has been useful to me a few times especially at night.
@michael-masi-2021
@michael-masi-2021 7 ай бұрын
The 105mm Macro has a screen. Useless to me.
@UweRoclawski
@UweRoclawski 7 ай бұрын
Someone with big muscles should tell Nikon about Arca Swiss! PS: now I wanna see the movie "Planes in the Zoo"
@pierrevilley6675
@pierrevilley6675 7 ай бұрын
If you buy a 600 PF to put it on a tripod, get the 180-600 instead.
@aliendroneservices6621
@aliendroneservices6621 7 ай бұрын
6:30 6:31 6:34 6:35 F/13
@garnerboyd4206
@garnerboyd4206 5 ай бұрын
Easy Compensation control +/- on the Lens Ring while looking at the Histogram. works great for me.
@tr3v87
@tr3v87 3 ай бұрын
The click thing on the collar might be an annoying from an OCD perspective but in real use you may not fall exactly on it from a composition standpoint. So it's not really an issue....
@sagetheowlfatfeathery2083
@sagetheowlfatfeathery2083 7 ай бұрын
That Eagle zoom photo is exceptional for the price. If you’re printing at a reasonable size, the prime looks like an un-versatile waste of money.
@ryancooper3629
@ryancooper3629 7 ай бұрын
I think this lens sounds great and looks like an amazing lens but I feel the price point will hold it back. Asking almost $5000 for a 600 6.3 prime is really steep. I think this will struggle to differentiate itself from a 400 4.5 + TC which is cheaper and just as light or if you are already spending this much money, might as well spend a few extra dollars and move to the 800PF. It sits in this weird middle ground where, yes, the 600mm focal length is amazing but they priced it like it was faster than it is. Like imagine this was a 600 5.0 at this price point. Even if a bit bigger, it would be an insanely good option. But at 6.3, I feel there are better options already. Also that 4m min focusing distance is pretty rough. Anyone shooting small birds will def run into this wall. Imo they really should have sacrificed a few extra g so this could be closer to the 2.4m of the 180-600 or 2.5 of the 400 4.5.
@taylorhickman84
@taylorhickman84 7 ай бұрын
Any tips on getting that close to birds?
@ryancooper3629
@ryancooper3629 7 ай бұрын
@@taylorhickman84 let them come to you and be camouflaged. (blind, ghillie, etc)
@plantman6245
@plantman6245 3 ай бұрын
Ryan cooper spot on mate! Better off getting versatility of 400 4.5 with TC at much cheaper price
@hautehussey
@hautehussey 7 ай бұрын
I like that the rotating collar doesn’t have clicks. I often want to leave it just past the neutral mark.
@froknowsphoto
@froknowsphoto 7 ай бұрын
You can still do that with the clicks. They are just there to tell you where center is. Or flush .
@taylorhickman84
@taylorhickman84 7 ай бұрын
And here I just rely on the camera's display to indicate if I'm level, stupid me.
@hautehussey
@hautehussey 7 ай бұрын
@@taylorhickman84 that that that has much to do with my point, but the camera’s sensor isn’t accurate enough a lot of times.
@taylorhickman84
@taylorhickman84 7 ай бұрын
@@hautehussey the only time mine has faulted has been in moving vehicles
@csucameli
@csucameli 7 ай бұрын
IS THE GOLD RING BACK!!!!???
@SandysTravels
@SandysTravels 7 ай бұрын
I don't like the click sometimes I need that Itty bitty turn and I don't want it clicking when I don't want it..
@thomashedge6614
@thomashedge6614 7 ай бұрын
I find it so strange the new higher zoom lenses for the new Mirrorless camera's keep having higher F stops?
@dicekolev5360
@dicekolev5360 7 ай бұрын
Umm, no?! What do you mean man 😅
@ryancooper3629
@ryancooper3629 7 ай бұрын
@@dicekolev5360 He is comparing the 200-500 5.6 to the 180-600 6.3 and this 600 6.3 to the 500 5.6. Nikon is opting for more reach but a slower open aperture. (and much higher price tag)
@MTBD80
@MTBD80 7 ай бұрын
Lower F stops makes it larger/heavier/expensive. They are striking a nice balance with more advanced stabilization of mirrorless system.
@ryancooper3629
@ryancooper3629 7 ай бұрын
@@MTBD80 Right, but what is the benefit of this over a 400 4.5 + TC? Similar weight, similar optical performance, better close focusing. More versaility. $1000 less. 560mm vs 600mm is trivial.
@pierrevilley6675
@pierrevilley6675 7 ай бұрын
600mm zoom lenses have always been F/6.3 or dimmer on the long end. Only cannon makes "black hole lenses" with F/11 aperture, or F/7.1 (which is not awful in itself, but sucks for a 3000€ 500mm lens)
@nickidzenga5486
@nickidzenga5486 7 ай бұрын
Sony needs to step up there telezoom game! Nikon is crushing it with the medium budget lenses and pro lenses, canon is crushing the super budget game and pro lenses aswel while sony is still depending on there amazing 200-600 but we need some of nikons budget primes in sony’s line up real quick
@cameraprepper7938
@cameraprepper7938 7 ай бұрын
I sold the "amazing" Sony 200-600mm, I want Sony (Tamron/Sigma) to make prime tele Lenses, like 300mm 4.0, 400mm 4.5 and 500mm 5.6
@taylorhickman84
@taylorhickman84 7 ай бұрын
the new 70-200 shoots at 1:2, I'd say their are chugging along just fine
@nickidzenga5486
@nickidzenga5486 7 ай бұрын
@@cameraprepper7938 I hope sigma will make a sony e mount 500mm f4 there canon/nikon mount was really good for a affordable price
@chrislognshot
@chrislognshot 7 ай бұрын
oaky mr polin. i will hand hold Nikon Z9 Gen 2 FTZ Sigma Sport 120-300mm for sports that is 10lb in weight. i got so used to weight does not bug me and so well balanced. some how i hand held it for over 2hrs with not putting down. even when open gatorade bottle for drink. its feels so great. also i can not pick up heavy weights. my backpack that is 23lb is super heavy in both hands. but 10lb combo does not fell heavy. if had that lens on Z9 will feel to light. just like the Sigma C 150-600mm fells when i have on Z9
@MichaelJones-ie4eq
@MichaelJones-ie4eq Ай бұрын
The 180-600 is far sharper in the eagle comparison, as seen quite clearly by the feathers close to the beak etc.
@jss27560
@jss27560 7 ай бұрын
No matter how much I would love the 600mm either one, unless I win the lottery It’s a struggle to afford the 180-600.
@lelanddyer9461
@lelanddyer9461 7 ай бұрын
Even Pentax has clicking Tripod collar GEEZ
@stratonarrow
@stratonarrow 7 ай бұрын
180-600 is what I’ll be buying used a few years from now 😂
@brianeibisch6025
@brianeibisch6025 7 ай бұрын
Nice “guns” Jared however I’m sure Arnie would say, “more work required”. Cheers
@guglielmo_nature_photography
@guglielmo_nature_photography 7 ай бұрын
I setup the ring with EV compensation
@marleenvandam6931
@marleenvandam6931 6 ай бұрын
The 600 Pf is defintely sharper and must faster AF!
@myketripp3838
@myketripp3838 6 ай бұрын
I've had mine for a month now and love it. It's top quality and the weight is why it's been worth it to me. When I'm in the Jeep (on the trail), I can pick it up off the passenger seat, spin, and shoot out my side with no issues.
@RG-rm9jt
@RG-rm9jt 7 ай бұрын
This is kind of an oddball for me. I wish they would have made it a 600 f/5.6 with a built-in TC. That way, you stay at f/8 when you use the TC which means you get PDAF on all cameras. In that realm it absolutely would have been worth the $4,800 price tag. As is, seems way overpriced.
@radeknovotny8954
@radeknovotny8954 7 ай бұрын
super,určitě je lepší 600,to je Number one👍👍👍
@nolimitsphotos
@nolimitsphotos 7 ай бұрын
I'll take the 180-600 please...
@chmaowang1829
@chmaowang1829 7 ай бұрын
Maybe 100-400 + 600 pf is a good choice
@garyswergold4096
@garyswergold4096 7 ай бұрын
I have a used 500 of and the 100-400. Great combo. I’m not likely to upgrade very soon but will in the future
@dominiclester3232
@dominiclester3232 7 ай бұрын
At 5 mins Your shirt is orange, your notepad is yellow and the lens ring is Gold! Just so you know.
@Jviotr
@Jviotr 7 ай бұрын
And with Tamron adding their 150-500 to the mount, Nikon has the sport / wildlife range well covered. I’d be curious how this lens compares to the 180-600 in other aspects other than sharpness - flare control, CA, bokeh, etc.
@michael-masi-2021
@michael-masi-2021 7 ай бұрын
One has to assume it'll be better in all those areas, but by how much? The 180-600mm seems to perform very well.
@Ben_Stewart
@Ben_Stewart 7 ай бұрын
Just need a Z6iii to knock it out of the park. Canon and Sony guys wishing they had more girth with their lens mounts.
@m.maclean8911
@m.maclean8911 5 ай бұрын
I bought the Z 180-600 instead of the Z 600 and the cost savings paid for half of my Z 800.
@SlotCarNewsOfficial
@SlotCarNewsOfficial 7 ай бұрын
Sony should have had clicks on the 200-600.
@user-nv3gw5sg4e
@user-nv3gw5sg4e 7 ай бұрын
он же снимает очень простые сюжеты, днем. можно ли ему доверять ? точность и скорость зависит от настроек , а он этим не загружается
@corvuscyphert567
@corvuscyphert567 7 ай бұрын
My nikon 50-300mm f4.5 has a clicked tripod foot lol.
@JasonLorette
@JasonLorette 7 ай бұрын
As the 24-120 is one of my favorite lenses I’d probably lean towards the 180-600…I like versatility a lot. 📸😎
@dieseldavey
@dieseldavey 7 ай бұрын
Wow a positive review for Nikon gear lol what’s the world coming too 😂
@thobert1
@thobert1 7 ай бұрын
i call this the Charlie Brown Shirt. If you know, you know.
@tomredman745
@tomredman745 7 ай бұрын
Probably 180-600 for me. I like the birds and it gives me more flexibility in tighter quarters with their movement. 600 PF would, for me, be better for larger animals in open areas…
@michael-masi-2021
@michael-masi-2021 7 ай бұрын
1 Gibbon is not called a Gibbons. Many Gibbons are refered to as Gibbons.
@georgetran1766
@georgetran1766 7 ай бұрын
A Z 600mm f5.6 S PF should be a game changer. 100-400mm/f4.5-5.6 weighs 3.2lbs and 400mm/f4.5m weighs 2.7lbs. Both of these lenses are the S version. I would think Nikon wants to have a new prime 600mm which is much lighter than 180-600mm to meet Nikon owners’ wish but I cannot figure out why Nikon does not want to design a 600mm/f5.6 PF instead. Would 400mm/f4.5 + 1.4x TC be better off in terms of pricing even though there might be a little sacrifice in sharpness?
@michael-masi-2021
@michael-masi-2021 7 ай бұрын
Go 400mm and drop into DX crop for instant 600mm with no drop in IQ or light gathering.
@deviantMystro
@deviantMystro 6 ай бұрын
​@michael-masi-2021 that is not how it works unfortunately. dx crop is just a crop of your full frame image. You don't gain reach without losing megapixels.
@michael-masi-2021
@michael-masi-2021 6 ай бұрын
@@deviantMystro add a TC and lose IQ, or DX crop for less megapixels.... I know which sacrifice I'd rather make. Unless you're printing, and printing big, MP are overrated. I'll take my ~20mp DX crop on a Z9 any day over a TC.
@gordonking9515
@gordonking9515 7 ай бұрын
Just remember on your Africa trip to take a basting brush and a nice sauce.... so when the lion gets you you don't get stuck on the way down lol
@tomegan4060
@tomegan4060 7 ай бұрын
In the comparison pics the 180-600 looked sharper for half the price
@froknowsphoto
@froknowsphoto 7 ай бұрын
as i said in the video, you can't exactly make a decision side by side not shot same time same angle same everything. They both looked great as I said.
@SuomiFinland78
@SuomiFinland78 7 ай бұрын
if you just get a good model of lens...a couple of people I know have sent 180-600 lens back cos' they were not sharp and got back better ones. People are beta tester it seems...@@froknowsphoto
@GoergeSwenton
@GoergeSwenton 7 ай бұрын
I thought THAT NIKON GUYS was supposed to test it first, no!?
@TheCrystalyne
@TheCrystalyne 7 ай бұрын
Gibbon.....Gibbons is the pleural :-)
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