Nikon Z6iii - A Different View

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@waveland
@waveland 10 күн бұрын
I think most KZfaqrs were clear that they had a preproduction camera for a very limited number of hours. We can’t expect anyone to have produced a comprehensive review under the circumstances. A few highlights and hunches and then some version of “see me again in a month when I can work with the final production version.” It was a camera launch day and Nikon put an enormous amount of energy and a fair bit of money into getting the word out. Good for them. Nikon have a lot of catching up to do in terms of market share. More detailed breakdowns on the camera will come soon enough.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
A lot of them don’t actually follow up on further deeper reviews. My point is they should say to Nikon we want it for enough time do make a proper review or we won’t do one. They do state that at the beginning but that also says it’s not a good review
@markroscoephotography
@markroscoephotography 9 күн бұрын
Forgot to mention…. you can get a brand new Z8 on grey market £2799 if you’re not to fussy about grey market
@luispacheco9683
@luispacheco9683 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for your view, I agree of course. The Z6 III is an hybrid camera aiming to attract video users because if the aim was to attract Z6-Z6II users (and users of similar other brands' cameras), it should have 33mp (and then video specs would be worst). It's my opinion, of course.
@barnowlwoodworks1690
@barnowlwoodworks1690 10 күн бұрын
I pre-ordered the Z6iii. The money was not a factor. I'm upgrading from the Z6ii. My wife has the Zf and loves it. I think they gave us pretty much what we asked for, a little better version of the Zf. I see the current prices here in the US and they are as follows: Zf $1996 Z6iii $2496 Z8 $3496. I was very close to getting the Z8 but I would venture a guess that the Z6iii will be a small bit better in lower light ( which seems all my jobs put me in ). For events and weddings I don't think you could go wrong with the Z6iii.
@timgimbert3073
@timgimbert3073 9 күн бұрын
Neither the Zf or Z6iii have the Recall Shooting Functions which helps fine tune the auto focus. I use the Smallrig grip so handling isn't problem. For me the main differences are the Zf has the pro eye cup and the Z6iii has the better exposure control set-up with the button. In Australia I don't know if that is worth the $1500 price difference.
@hamburg_solutions
@hamburg_solutions 10 күн бұрын
I think it's a great camera based on the specs, obviously I haven't used it. I prefer my Zf at even the same price as the Z6 iii. But I don't really care that much about video. I think it fit's pretty well into the ecosystem although Different strokes for different folks, congrats to Nikon for putting out some great cameras!
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Yes we have a great choice, maybe a nice cropped sensor body next too
@ScriptureToday
@ScriptureToday 10 күн бұрын
Ricci made the choice between mechanical and electronic easy: Use the mechanical for flash. That's it.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
I do like his videos but he is a Nikon ambassador so doesn’t always tell the full story. Good he pointed out the card door error though
@withintheviewfinder5994
@withintheviewfinder5994 10 күн бұрын
@@russandloz The review by Ricci was excellent in my opinion. Never afraid of pointing out what he think are the weak points. Btw, Ricci is not a Nikon ambasador. He is a Nikon employee, I think his formal title is something like training specialist.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
@@withintheviewfinder5994 We do likeRicci, but I’m not sure it was a review rather than going through the specs. But it was good he pointed out that memory door issue.
@mrdarryljones1
@mrdarryljones1 10 күн бұрын
😅 I’m going for the Z6iii because numbers don’t tell the whole story. The electronic shutter on the Zf doesn’t allow me to shoot sports due to the slow read out speed of the sensor (I get the warping). The mechanical shutter works great and I’ve been doing sports photojournalism for my local paper. But now with the 6iii I will be able to get shots that my 6ii can’t get because of the auto focus and my Zf can’t get because of the sensor read out speed. 20fps electronic on the 6iii will literally be a game changer- sports pun. My wife (wise woman that she is) agree’s with Loz and says just get the Z8 but since I have the 6ii I’m going to get the 6iii because I’ll essentially have identical cameras for weddings (button layout, color science and ergonomic feel) and will also have smaller file sizes. I’m not going to make recommendations for anyone else because I don’t know what they need or have. (But isn’t that the problem with all KZfaq?)😂 And as far as the rant goes: I get your point about the KZfaqr’s fail. The real problem is money. You guys are immune ‘cuz you’re so small! ❤️ Nothing but love for you both but I only watch this channel because you shoot Nikon and your views add a perspective I don’t have!👍🏾
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
The z63 is amazing very capable camera. I think we are yet to see its full power and what it all means really. I wish the Bigger youtubers would just say NO, do it their way or not at all.
@NikCan66
@NikCan66 10 күн бұрын
Z6 mark iii aimed a wider audience from say wedding photographers, corporate events and family gatherings whereby the Z8 and Z9 more professional market of action,sports,wildlife
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Looks like it was aimed at video makers more than anything?
@MysticApertureStudios
@MysticApertureStudios 10 күн бұрын
Z6iii shoots 120fps photos and has a bottomless buffer with a decent cfexpress card, eg angelbird. Z6iii does it all even fast action and sports.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
@@MysticApertureStudios Yeap, i'm looking forward to seeing its capabilities and i'm happy to be wrong.
@NikCan66
@NikCan66 10 күн бұрын
@@MysticApertureStudios I have 2 Nikon z9 cameras.
@MysticApertureStudios
@MysticApertureStudios 10 күн бұрын
@@NikCan66 thats awesome! I have a z6 and a z8. I almost have my 35mm f1.4 on the z8 and the 85mm on the z6. I mostly shoot portraits.
@mpstein1976
@mpstein1976 10 күн бұрын
I ordered z5 with 24-200 and Viltrox 20mm. For £1600. No need for video but I would have jumped for more pixels in the sensor.
@catmonkey6826
@catmonkey6826 10 күн бұрын
Z5 is great.
@Digmen1
@Digmen1 10 күн бұрын
We will start to get some good reviews over the next few weeks, as serious photographers get to use the Z6iii
@pete1927
@pete1927 10 күн бұрын
At last the real photographers opinion. great chats these are men.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Thanks Pete, yes we did feel the big KZfaqrs aer just going though the specs like adverts. I guess in time they might use it to really discover its power
@yophotodude7693
@yophotodude7693 9 күн бұрын
I think we all got excited about raw pre-capture but they never said “raw”. But if you look at the Z6III launch from the perspective of a non-Z8/9 user and from a Z5/6/6II user any pre-capture is a huge new feature. We have to look at it through that lens.
@jamesproctor8301
@jamesproctor8301 8 күн бұрын
Olympus released raw precapture in 2016 in the EM-1 mark ii, 8 years ago, and upgraded the number of frames in later models. I'm hoping Nikon will release a software upgrade to add RAW precapture to their Expeed 7 cameras at a later time.
@davida6520
@davida6520 7 күн бұрын
Hope, hope
@starbase218
@starbase218 10 күн бұрын
Honestly, the Z8 is awesome, but I feel I gravitate more towards the Z6 III. Even though it’s not that much cheaper. But it’s smaller, lighter, I think I like the screen better (for photography - yes that’s possible), and a few things are better than the Z8. The IBIS, EVF, and buffer come to mind. For me, if I can take sharp photos at 1/2 second at 75mm without a tripod (as Hudson Henry showed), that is awesome. I would like the sensor shield from the Z8, as I’m a bit worried about dust when traveling. But I also like the smaller size, again, for traveling. Resolution-wise I’m not sure if I’d prefer 45MP. I thought I did, but in low light, the 24MP sensor is a bit better. And for anything except wildlife (because of cropping), I don’t think I need more. Also I think there is AI upscaling. I might check that out. A stacked sensor also is a bit worse in low light, so I’m actually not bothered at all that they didn’t go fully stacked. I mean, to me it’s just a buzz word. I don’t think I’m bothered by the slower readout either, as I don’t do much video at all.
@TihoVo
@TihoVo 9 күн бұрын
A full stacked sensor would have been great for sure, but probably then it would cost even more. And if it would have been a stacked sensor, if would have been probably 24mp. People would then probably complain that its only 24 mp. The price of 3,000 € is steep, especially compared to the Z6 or Z6ii, but unfortunately the competition was also in the 3,000 € ball park when they came out. The Z8 on sale in Austria at least costs 4,000 € and only in a few shops there is an additional price drop of 500 €. I was also thinking well that's just 500 € more than the z6III. But then again the z8 is a bigger and heavier camera with probably worse high iso performance than the z6iii. As I use my z6 as an all round camera for sports, low-light events and personal travel/landscape photography the z8 would be a less fitting camera for me than the z6iii. The price of the z8 will be at 4.500 € again in mid July, at least in Austria and then the price difference between the z6iii and z8 will be 1,500 €. This is quite a lot. I am not trying to defend the steep price of the Z6III, but the lower price of the z8 is just a temporary thing. Lets see what the price of the z6iii will be around Christmas time. Spec wise it all depends on what you are shooting. I personally prefer the lower mp and faster burst rates with apparently an almost black out free experience, which should be beneficial for sports and wildlife photography. A 33mp as in the A7iv would have been probably slower. Regarding the reviews: I prefer those who show the pictures that they have taken with the camera, like Jared Polin or Steve Perry etc. and not those who only read the specs. I find that both reviews show pros and cons of the camera.
@stevenyoung1141
@stevenyoung1141 10 күн бұрын
Thanks so much for a not overhyped, balanced and honest take on the Z6iii. I agree with you that the most of KZfaq reviews are ridiculous. Was really looking forward to your thoughtful response. Thanks!
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
A pleasure Steven, is the z6iii for you?
@stevenyoung1141
@stevenyoung1141 10 күн бұрын
@@russandloz thanks for your response. I actually recently got the zf. The Z6iii was really slow in coming out and I was looking for an upgrade. I'm going to stick with the zf because the only real difference between the zf and 6iii is video and faster frame rates. But when it comes to stills they are virtually the same. And I have actually fallen in love with the zf design because it is actually unique from all the plain looking mirrorless cameras today. With the dials on top it forces me to think about the image I'm taking more, which I like. And honestly, if I had the money I'm going for the z8.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
@@stevenyoung1141 Yes I also like the ZF design. Much more fun and inspiring. Though sometimes as a tool it can be more complicated to do simpler tasks
@mrls2u
@mrls2u 7 күн бұрын
Reading the specs, and taking the sum - or median - of all the first looks KZfaqrs have shared so far, I think I have a very accurate idea of what this camera is all about and I think it was almost exactly what I was looking for and what I expected. There are a couple nit-picks, as well as a few surprises, but that's true of every camera release from every manufacturer. I've had my Z6ii for several years now, and the III is a welcome upgrade. I'll keep my II as a second body and I'm sure it will continue to serve me well. If some are temped to pony up a a few hundred more for a z8 instead, that's great, but it's far from a no-brainer that one would want to do so. For me, the combination of price, functionality and size/weight makes this a winning combination.
@russandloz
@russandloz 6 күн бұрын
Also waiting for a few months might save some money? Depending on the place you are
@johnprisk
@johnprisk 10 күн бұрын
Gerald Undone and Fro both had pretty good previews. Chris and Jordan also had a pretty decent preview. There were a lot that had click-bait titles and thumbnails, with actual content that was more middle of the road than said titles and thumbnails would have suggested. Sadly click-bait plays for a lot of content creators.
@BronzeHarbour
@BronzeHarbour 10 күн бұрын
It all depends on what you need as a professional or leisure photographer. As a pro, you can buy almost 2 bodies of the ZF at the price of the Z8. You can start a business at lower price point and change the cameras in 4 years, still selling them at around 1000€ maybe. You would be limited to shoot weddings/events etc at 1080p tho (which let's be honest, it would work for 90% of your customers). The Z6III, 2 bodies would be around 6000€, approximately the price of 2 Z8 bodies (around 6800€). The Z6III will depreciate much faster + it is not built in the same way, less specs. The only advantage to me of the Z6III is if you are invested into Nikon (lenses, etc.) and need a video capable new second body and the ZF or older is your main camera. Even so it hardly makes rational sense to buy one.
@dfinlay587
@dfinlay587 2 күн бұрын
I have a Z6, and this is a great upgrade. It really brings it up to spec.
@russandloz
@russandloz 2 күн бұрын
Yes it is a massive update from z6i and z6ii without a doubt. Though like in the UK the price of the z8 is temptingly close?
@dfinlay587
@dfinlay587 2 күн бұрын
@@russandloz Yes it is. Here in the US it's about $1,000 different with the current Z8 Sale. I don't understand Nikon's pricing positioning. They should not have put the Z8 on sale before the launch.. Although it's also the size for me.
@ian-nz-2000
@ian-nz-2000 10 күн бұрын
Steve Perry posted a decent field test review. He only had the camera for less than a day but he was out and about in Florida, a great place for wildlife photography.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
I usually like his videos but this one seemed a bit vague, maybe he should have waited until he could have a proper go. Not sure what you can learn in one session
@ian-nz-2000
@ian-nz-2000 9 күн бұрын
@@russandloz I guess the vagueness comes from the short time he had to do the review. At least he was out birding with the camera and the infinite buffer segment was most amusing!
@koenpijpersphotography
@koenpijpersphotography 9 күн бұрын
In the US it is 600 Euros cheaper, where is that price difference coming from? I am saving on for the Z8 anyway.
@WidePhotographs
@WidePhotographs 10 күн бұрын
Just bought the Nikon Zf since the z6iii is above my budget. The only thing I hate about the Zf is the placement of the focus button, too close to the EVF. It felt natural of the placement on a Nikon z5 (previous owned camera).
@karamveersingh3417
@karamveersingh3417 10 күн бұрын
Beautiful picture quality in this video of you two. Is that 50 F1.2 or 85 F1.8 lens? Any color corrections on any specific profile?
@northofbrandon
@northofbrandon 10 күн бұрын
It looks like 8 bit in standard to me
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
50 1.2 with a little saturation and toning down the greens. But yes 8 bit standard is good enough really 😊
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
@@northofbrandon Exactly right. How did you know? 😊
@lolingsaraee
@lolingsaraee 10 күн бұрын
Have the z8 as my main , z6ii as my 2nd body. Not sure if I really need to go z6iii as I’m covered for what I do . Ask me again in a few months 🤷🏼‍♂️
@lozzom
@lozzom 9 күн бұрын
Exactly where I am
@craiginthemud7086
@craiginthemud7086 10 күн бұрын
Great and interesting video chaps. Just wondering where you can get a zf for £1900?
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
It was on the Nikon refurbish page, there has been a run of them a few times this year. You might find similar on the used market as well.
@Digmen1
@Digmen1 10 күн бұрын
Yes that is the way to look at price differences. If its say 700 quid, then divide that over say 5 years and that is 2.69 quid per week.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Yes, it depends if you need the Z8 ability, say for wildlife, otherwise the z6iii is a great option
@thomaschamberlin2485
@thomaschamberlin2485 10 күн бұрын
I have the Z9 and Zf so I'm good with what I have. I think the Z6iii is for Z6 and Z6ii users, because they really can't upgrade that old ten times slower processor any more. It is also to lure DSLR holdouts to move up to mirrorless, which should now be a no-brainer for the autofocus alone. And they tried to keep the price down to lure people over from other brands. Their mid-level camera is now on par with the others. If I were just starting or were moving up from DSLR I would still get a Z8 because I am a wildlife shooter and the crop allows me to avoid losing a stop or two to teleconverters. And that flippy screen is a huge, huge negative for me. Why can't they use the tilt/variable angle screen Sony uses? Then everybody is happy.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Yes good points. Nikon no the tilt screen divide so many people they could incorporate both like other brands. I don’t really understand why they don’t.
@johnyoung1606
@johnyoung1606 10 күн бұрын
Choice for a 2nd camera,, ZF vs Z6III ????? Z6III !!! The Grip is the main difference to me, As well low light AF n Eye AF n 8 stops IBIS !!! ZF is such a different layout from what I am used to also Z50, Z5, Z6II, Z8 :) :) :)
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Yes, forgetting about price the Z63 would be a better second camera. Hopefully in time, I will trade in for a better price.
@MAWAJR
@MAWAJR 10 күн бұрын
I use my camera for Sports in dark surroundings. Breakdance. I get a lot of LED-lighting. When cheap LED's are used I cannot use my Z9. I will need a camera with a mechanical shutter. So I preordered the Z6III in February. My Z6II was getting too slow. This iteration of the Z6 ist more than welcome. However the swivel screen will be bothering me.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Does the LED issues effect video or stills more?
@MAWAJR
@MAWAJR 10 күн бұрын
@@russandloz LEDs affect both types of videography and photography. In videography, you will have to sync your shutter speed with the LED then you will have no effect with photography however, this is a different story. There you can also sync your shutter speed with the LED, but if you need fast shutter speeds, you will have to try to minimize the effect of the LEDs. A mechanical shutter, however, will eliminate the LED effect. Better is a central shutter like it is implemented in the A3, which Sonny produced.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
@@MAWAJR I’ve only had issues with video and LED so far using the z8. But they sure are annoying
@igibbs2000utube
@igibbs2000utube 10 күн бұрын
​@@MAWAJR I'm a concert photographer. Have to deal with LEDs all the time. The business of synching the camera to the LED frequencies gets extremely tricky (impossible) when you have multiple LEDs of different intensities covering differet parts of the stage and moving about. I've given up. My Z9's sensor is fast enough to avoid banding in still photos most of the time, but not all. When I'm working in a venue that has new-to-me lighting, I'll shoot the first half of the show with my 70-200 on the Z9 and 24-70 on the Z6ii (which is always set to use mechanical shutter); I'll switch lenses around at the half-way mark. I'm tired of all the KZfaq reviewers talking about how wonderful stacked sensors are. Indeed, they're better than "traditional" sensors (I get banding in only a small % of my photos), but they're not "all that". Until I get a camera with a global sensor, I will always need to have a camera with a mechanical shutter. (If my Z6ii suddently needed to be replaced, I couldn't replace it with a Z8 or Z9 - as much as I love my Z9 more than my Z6ii in every other way.)
@northofbrandon
@northofbrandon 10 күн бұрын
Can you not use shutter speed fine-tuning to get rid of these artifacts?
@petersuvara
@petersuvara 10 күн бұрын
For video, it’s a slam dunk for the price.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Yes it does seem aimed at video users more than anything really. Maybe there is a market to grab!
@petersuvara
@petersuvara 10 күн бұрын
@@russandloz correct. Though as a video focused user, I’d prefer a smaller form factor and lighter weight. My ideal Nikon camera for video would be a Z30 with 10 bit internal raw recording. No need for a view finder or 6k video. Also, no need for a full frame sensor. APS-C is ample.
@terohamalainen8868
@terohamalainen8868 9 күн бұрын
In Finland nikon z8 cost 4300€ and z6iii cost 2999€
@russandloz
@russandloz 9 күн бұрын
That’s a massive difference then. Makes a choice easier
@boblozano
@boblozano 10 күн бұрын
Recently pruned out most yt photo subscriptions, kept this one because you guys are always a bit counter to the mainstream. Keep it up... re: the partial stacked sensor vs. going full stacked sensor, it's simply a cost issue. An ordinary engineering tradeoff - in this case, as someone with a lot of background in computing performance, think it was a reasonable and even clever attempt to make better use of the exspeed 7 capabilities (paired with the cf-express), without driving the cost so it would indistinguishable from a z8. For my part, I like the resulting set of tradeoffs, and ordered one to pair with a z8 for most situations, or solo when wanting something a little smaller but keeping af and z lenses. Prefer to mix & match capabilities, but gaining the smaller size with similar handling is a nice win.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Yes you may well be right about not noticing much difference using the shutter, hopefully so, the camera capabilities are yet to be discovered. Also thanks for keeping us, we like to think we offer something different
@boblozano
@boblozano 10 күн бұрын
definitely did not order based on any yt-expectations btw, much rather figure out whether it works for me by actually using it, learning the concrete reality, not hype train. Would have liked a sensor fast enough to support dropping the mechanical shutter, but c'est la vie. Have the z8 and *love* it, so the main thing I want from the z6iii is "most" of that, but smaller body. Since the lenses don't change size, have other kit when total size is a thing. At any rate, worst case with the z6iii it'll go back if things don't work out. Nbd.
@boblozano
@boblozano 10 күн бұрын
also I was very happy to see the mf subject detect from the zf is included here as well! Hopefully this will soon propagate to the z8 and z9.
@PavelGramatikov
@PavelGramatikov 10 күн бұрын
I love all of your videos! A very down-to-earth discussion. I've been thinking the same about the Z6 III - for the price it should have offered a fully-stacked sensor and no shutter thus fitting nicely in Nikon's line-up (as we probably won't see a Z7 III anyway). This or they should reduce the price of the Z6 III to make it more competitive against both the competition and Nikon's own cameras.
@AstairVentof
@AstairVentof 10 күн бұрын
I think the Z6iii is a great camera but the real issue with it is the timing. I feel like its really going toe to toe with the R6MII but that came out a while ago. This just wasnt really an exciting release for me. Its a tough segment because they cant really add more MP since that would encroach on the Z7 and Z8 essentially making the Z7 almost obsolete. The addition of a fully stcked sensor might also somewhat so this. When I think of what the next Z7 has to be i feel that it needs to be non-stacked and target the same place as the A7R series with higher MP/dynamic range than the Z8 and Z9 to be worth while. Z6iii was a great and frankly neccesairy camera for Nikon because they did not have anything compelling for this price range as compared to their competitors. For action/wildlife shooters the the nikon has a faster readout speed of around 11ms compared to the canon of around 14 but the canon can do twice the frame rate in raw, but then the Z6iii can shoot indefinitely. That being said it does seem like the Z6iii has some real quality of life improvements with the brighter viewfinder and screen that might make it more enjoyable to use. I think the flip screen makes sense as this seems to be a more all rounder camera thats good at stills and video but i would have really liked for the Z8 and this to have the kind of sceen that the A9iii has. I dont think the inclusion of a fully stacked sensor is necessary but it really would have pressured the market and been great for consumers. I think it makes more sense for them to have that in a crop body similar to the D500 and with ~30MP.
@g00nther
@g00nther 10 күн бұрын
Interesting video, as usual. Great to see you're getting a lot of feedback already 😄 I saw some balanced reviews with reliable reviewers who have had it for some time to do a decent job such as Gerald Undone, PetaPixel, Ricci and Julia Totti who do point out flaws as well. There are others as well. Polin IMO is a terrible reviewer, his vids are juvenile and he lacks basic understanding of features at times, so I haven't watched anything from him in years. I look forward to more reviews when the production version is released. Obviously what we've seen so far isn't definitive. I plan to get one. The Z8 is too expensive for me, and too much for me as a non-pro also not interested in the ZF as it's more of a niche camera with it's handling and lack of grip. The Z6III gives probably 85-90% of the Z8/9 at a far lower price and smaller body, and is actually improved in some ways. The only thing I don't like is the flippy screen, but that's not a deal breaker.
@michaelmalodrums9674
@michaelmalodrums9674 10 күн бұрын
With all due respect I honestly don’t know why you think froknows photo was a fair review ? Photographing muy Thai boxing with their gloves in front of the face and filming with the 85. 1.2 and 135 1.8 plena wide open where absolutely the worst choice of lenses for sports action . Then he always harps on the Nikon AF being inferior to canon . If you rewatch that part right after he contradicts himself by saying that when he put the 24-70 2.8 Z lens on the AF worked perfect ! Oh really ? So he finally figured out that shooting at 2.8 would focus easier than tracking at 1.2 ? Please rewatch that part of his review and let me know if that wasn’t ridiculous on his part ! Sorry that’s my two cents :)
@ItsFritzDaCat
@ItsFritzDaCat 10 күн бұрын
People still watch Jared? Lol 😂 unsubbed years ago.. Jared is a sheep..imo😊
@MysticApertureStudios
@MysticApertureStudios 10 күн бұрын
I believe photographers should follow their own instincts and taste while chosing to buy equipment insted to listening to professional reviewers. Professionals work for paychecks and there is nothing wrong in it. I pay absolutely no attention to what anybody is saying. I only eat it if i like its taste. Same applies to my gear, if i like it, i buy it. No amount of influencing can change my mind. I bought the z6 when professional reviewers were pledging their souls on sony a7iii. In my opinion the colours on sony didnt look as pleasing. What's the point of nailing focus 10% more times if the colours lack taste. I bought the Z8 when everybody was pledging their souls on a7iv. Point is professionals reviewers have their compulsions. We dont.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Sure he doesn’t always make sense of delve deep enough. But his video didn’t seem like an advert like the others. What you said about the boxing makes sense though.
@garfieldirwin
@garfieldirwin 10 күн бұрын
Jared just doesn't want to have to do the work needed to get the most out of Nikon. Both Sony and Canon focus on making it easier for the user, whereas Nikon wants to leave it up to the user to set the correct settings for the situation. It's just a different approach, but I can see why most shooters would find Sony or Canon "better" just because their easier to use.
@michaelmalodrums9674
@michaelmalodrums9674 10 күн бұрын
@@russandloz he’s been using that old thing about Nikon AF for a long time now . He takes “ok “ photos I’m not impressed by his photography skills so maybe I just don’t take everything he says on face value . Thanks for the video guys 🤞🏼🙏🏻
@Robert-R
@Robert-R 9 күн бұрын
With regard to pricing in the US, no, sales taxes/VAT are not included in the price because every state has a different tax rate structure and a handful of states don't have any sales tax added on. State sales tax rates very from around 4% to almost 10% and in some states that's made up of State and Local (different cities/counties within the state have their own added tax) taxes. So, all advertised prices are exclusive of tax. I don't follow the constant arguments about the price delta between the Z6III and the Z8. You're comparing the price of something that was announce less than a week ago, and has yet to start shipping, to a camera that has been on the market for over a year and is currently on promotion. A month or two from now it won't be on promotion. The only apples to apples comparison is the £2699/$2500USD price of the Z6III to the standard £3749/$4000USD price of the Z8. Or you can wait until the Z6III is on promotion and then the delta will be around £1000 and the argument falls apart. Just get whatever camera you need and can afford. Stacked sensors are definitely more expensive. At this stage of the technology development, I don't think you're going to get a camera with a full size 24mb stacked sensor, and whatever else goes along with it, for less than £3000-£3200. The price will eventually come down, but that's years away. Just because they have them doesn't mean you can all of a sudden include them in every camera and not have a price impact.
@russandloz
@russandloz 9 күн бұрын
On the used market there are a few options of very good condition z8’s for that price and under in some stores. It just made an interesting view as it’s on promo too!
@unique93obr
@unique93obr 10 күн бұрын
One question...why you record with 2 cameras, but with almost the same angle, what is the point? It's better to have one wide angle, and one telephoto angle. :)
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
We did film with 2 but the second camera was knocked off focus, my user error. 😅So this is one camera edit. We don't have anyone to monitor it all as we self film.
@bobmorse5896
@bobmorse5896 10 күн бұрын
In the Divided States, B&H pricing, 6/21/24 is Zf: $2,000; Z6III: $2,500 (preorder); Z8: $3,500. On top of that, each state has a sales taxes, ranging from 0% to 9.25%. B&H will pay the sales tax if you use their store-only credit card (pay immediately, high interest rates for late payment). That, to me, is a pretty large gap in cost between the Z6III and the Z8. I have a Z6I. I'll keep my credit card in my pocket for now, but will likely cave in within a few months. I think there were a lot of good reviews to go with the multitude of sales pitches. Much of the hype / reality depends on whether you'll use it for photos or video. Lot's of good choices our there. I always enjoy watching you two.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
That's interesting to hear. Sounds complicated too. So Z8 is much more over there making the choice a little more simple. I think the best reviews will come in time once we discover it's real power.
@dunnymonster
@dunnymonster 10 күн бұрын
I personally was hoping for a fully stacked sensor in the Z6III and even more so now when considering the price. Nikon kind of have me in a check mate situation, had the Z6III had just a basic BSI CMOS sensor at £2700 I'd have given it a miss. I'd have been elated if it had a fully stacked sensor at £2700. I've tentatively pre ordered the Z6III, that partially stacked sensor was just enough to sway it but I would have preferred the price to have been £2500. All in all there is enough justification for me to upgrade from the Z6III, I guess like most however I was just hoping for a little bit more so that it would dominate the mid market pro-sumer tier. There is a lot to like but after 4 years development I do feel a tad underwhelmed. Still, once I get mine perhaps I'll feel differently about it 🙂
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
We feel the same really. Can you wait until it goes down in price?
@dunnymonster
@dunnymonster 10 күн бұрын
In truth yes I could wait, I mean I don't NEED the Z6III and I'm mentally debating if I should cancel my pre order. I literally placed my pre order within seconds of Nikon's website updating so I put my order in even before seeing the full specs! lol 😯 Retrospectively however I'm reconsidering because I guess I didn't get that Wow sensation once I reviewed the specs. I was expecting to be blown away so I was setting myself up for disappointment I guess 😋 I keep drifting back and forth. I know the camera will certainly meet my shooting needs ( the Z6II always served me well ) so I don't know what I'm fretting over to be honest.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
@@dunnymonster Yes I was the same, the ZF and Z8 both wowed me! The z63 will be amazing too, but with the price i'll wait to trade in. Though we have yet to see an in-depth review of what it can do with these specs. We all could be surprised!
@photo2000
@photo2000 9 күн бұрын
think your audio is clipping a bit on this video guys!... just move lav a bit further away from mouths, or turn down levels... its really jarring on speakers
@boundaryscience
@boundaryscience 10 күн бұрын
Sales taxes are weirder than you think in the States. My sales taxes are around 7.5% here in Columbus Ohio, but in Cleveland Ohio, they're 8%. Ohio has a 5.75% sales tax and then local municipalities add their own on top. A Z8 is ~1000.00 USD more in base price, but that would be 1075.00USD in Columbus or 1080.00USD in Cleveland with state and local taxes applied.
@boundaryscience
@boundaryscience 10 күн бұрын
Oh, and considering what the Zf can do, I feel that the 500.00 increase isn't warranted for a better grip and video features. 2200 USD would be a much better look considering the a7IVs ecosystem and the fact that the R6ii is almost always on sale for 2000.
@cotswoldphotographers
@cotswoldphotographers 10 күн бұрын
Lovely camera but for me the Z8 especially with the current sale makes so much sense. A floppy flippy screen is not what I want for photography and would drive me around the bend and I can’t help but think £2700 for a 24MP sensor is too much. Don’t get me wrong I think the Z6iii is a fabulous camera but even at normal price the Z8 is a better buy. Great honest review chaps
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Thanks. Yes with the current prices that makes sense to me. But once the promo is over and the used price might climb too. It’ll be interesting to see how the new camera sells
@cotswoldphotographers
@cotswoldphotographers 10 күн бұрын
@@russandloz I think the new camera will sell well and there’s definitely a market. I still think it’s too expensive for a 24MP camera though.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
@@cotswoldphotographers If it was a full stacked sensor would you change your mind?
@guyyowell8547
@guyyowell8547 10 күн бұрын
My feeling is: since I have the Z8 and a Z9 already, why would I (personally) need the Z6III? I think it’s a great choice for someone wanting to get into the Z system because it might be a better alternative over the Canon R6II, especially for $2,500 USD. I think they could have added the sensor shield; that was a mistake.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
My sensor shield broke, but I still use it. But sure if you have two great cameras already like us then you don't need the z6iii. I think they should have released the z6iii first
@guyyowell8547
@guyyowell8547 10 күн бұрын
@@russandloz I’m wondering what they’re going to do with the Z7III. Are they going to introduce a 60 megapixel sensor to attract buyers looking for an even higher resolution? And how would they price it? It would have to have something really special to slot it between the Z6III and Z8.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
@@guyyowell8547 I’d be surprised if they do make one. No room really. Z8 would fit the z7 needs?
@guyyowell8547
@guyyowell8547 10 күн бұрын
@@russandloz Good point! Maybe they won’t update the Z7II… for now. Unless they use the higher 60 megapixel sensor and slot the price somewhere between the Z6III and Z8. I think that would be the only way they could justify the price and make it attractive for consumers.
@guyyowell8547
@guyyowell8547 9 күн бұрын
Oh my God… I tried the Z6III today at my local dealer, and that viewfinder is amazing!! You can actually focus in a completely dark room!
@arash7even
@arash7even 10 күн бұрын
For me the problem is the price! After 4 years I would expected more but.. Then Ok not a big leap but then give us fair price! this camera must be max 2400 euros including tax! And I am sure in less than a year you can buy it for this price!
@starbase218
@starbase218 10 күн бұрын
I think the prices you mentioned are off. Here’s what I just got from Park Cameras: ZF: GBP2149 Z6 III: GBP2699 Z8: GBP3299 So a difference of 550 between the ZF and Z6 III, and 600 between the Z6 III and Z8. I do think the Z6 III should maybe be a little cheaper, because once you go too far past the 2500 mark it just feels like everything is expensive. But then the ZF isn’t that cheap either.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
The prices we stated are the prices we got them for, either used new or Nikon refurbished. We shown a picture of a used Z8 in mint condition from wex for cheaper
@starbase218
@starbase218 10 күн бұрын
@@russandloz Ok, but that's not an entirely fair comparison then, is it? I mean, it's true that you can pick up these cameras for less when used. But they will have been used, and the warranty probably isn't as long either (I think it's often 6 months for used gear). I do get it; they are available used in the first place, whereas the Z6 III is not. So from that perspective it is fair. But there is another side to it.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
@@starbase218 I only buy used in mint condition for cameras with 6 months warranty. But sure in time the scales will change, but for the moment this is the case we think
@starbase218
@starbase218 9 күн бұрын
@@russandloz To be fair, if someone would sell their Z6 III right now, 2400 might be a good price. It can't be old, so a buyer cant expect a price much below the retail price. But as a seller, you would still want to give an incentive to buyers to pick your used item instead of thinking, "well, it's a lot of money anyhow, let's buy a new one and have more certainty".
@randallbrander8157
@randallbrander8157 10 күн бұрын
I had two of them in my hand, one was setup for video and the other one for photo. Thicker grip. Buffer is unbelievable, but having the Pro Res, Nikon Raw and the software compatibility, if they did a complete stacked sensor add more expense. Autofocusing is batter. Cheers!
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Yeah the new camera has a great ability. For the UK price it should have the fully stacked in my opinion. It maybe in the end they all do a great job
@randallbrander8157
@randallbrander8157 10 күн бұрын
@@russandloz So that is the question, Price higher and would it affect the Z7III if it comes out at all. Cheers!
@arndtbc
@arndtbc 10 күн бұрын
I've got a Z6, Z6II, and Z7II... I think I'm going to trade or sell them all in and Z8
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Yes good choice. Unless you need 2 cameras. Thats what I did. But still have the z6i for some options
@Hind135
@Hind135 9 күн бұрын
I’m thinking the same thing, I can’t stand missing so many shots of my kids at sports. The AF just kills the enjoyment of my z6. I’m thinking z8 or canon r6ii. Idk what to do, I don’t trust the AF in Nikon even if it’s “better”. Uugghhh
@russandloz
@russandloz 9 күн бұрын
@@Hind135 the new range are light years ahead of the z6ii. It’s very enjoyable.
@roderickma6732
@roderickma6732 5 күн бұрын
what about z7 ii??????
@russandloz
@russandloz 5 күн бұрын
Doesn’t the z8 cover that?
@UnconventionalReasoning
@UnconventionalReasoning 10 күн бұрын
You both are looking for a "flagship, pro-consumer camera" when it is priced more for the high-end consumer. Most of the people who will buy the Z6III are *not* professional photographers. Please try to look at the Z6III through the eyes of a consumer, either a photo enthusiast or a parent of a student-athlete. The stacked sensor is more expensive, too much for the Z6III. The mechanical shutter is useful for situations with light which causes flicker or banding. The Zf is not what people want, after being used to most Nikon DSLR and MILC cameras. If the Z6III and Zf were almost identical except for the physical form, that would have met the need. The Z8 launch price was $4000 USD, it now sells for closer to $3500 USD. The Z6III launch price is $2500 USD, and within a year there will likely be rebates to lower the price to $2000 - 2200 USD. This will keep the Z6III at about 60% the price of the Z8. Sales tax is added on top of the prices I just listed. The Zf is still $2000 USD, eight months after launch. The $1000 price difference matters to consumers, they are not thinking about depreciation. They are thinking about a camera they are buying for a half-dozen years. Yes, the Z8 being like a 1.5x teleconverter does work like that, the image quality loss with cropping or the TC is comparable. The exception is the built-in TC like with the 400mm and 600mm, because with those the TC elements are designed as part of that lens design. About the other reviewers, having watched a half-dozen in the first couple of days, the "internal reflection" was done by Gerald Undone. He had the camera "without a chaperone, for a few weeks, ... I've been able to do whatever tests I wanted and no one was around to supervise." [in the first minute of his Z6III review.] The other notable thing about this launch is that the reviewers had raw processing available, which is usually not the case. Yes, there were others who only had it for a few hours, like Manny Ortiz. While we can be dismissive of this basically being an advertising, that is a big part of how Sony has dominated over the past decade, so Nikon is playing the Sony game, and perhaps doing it better by allowing some unaffiliated reviewers to have it unchaperoned.
@russandloz
@russandloz 9 күн бұрын
Interesting points. I would say the price of the is too high for a lot of non professionals but I’m sure it’ll be on promotion by Xmas. With it aimed at videographers having a shutter might be useful too. Are you a fan of the flippy screen?
@UnconventionalReasoning
@UnconventionalReasoning 9 күн бұрын
@@russandloz In the US, non-professionals do pay $2000-2500 USD for the Z6*, A7*, R6* cameras. I've watched them hand over their credit card at my local camera store. A Z5II around $1200-1500 USD would be good, though. Even the $1300 sale price for a Z6II, plus lens, was too much for one customer, but I knew there was a used Z6 in the case so they got that and a used lens. And they do make money from their photography, but not a full-time pro. So yes, everyone has their price-point. Video does not use the shutter, it is electronic only. I'm of a mixed mind with the flippy screen. My Panasonic m43 cameras have all had it (GH4, GH5, GH6, G9), and I definitely use it. For my Nikon Z cameras, I've only occasionally missed it, even when doing video. But for photos, the tilt screen does work well. I also almost always use the EVF. And with my Nikon F5, the best part is no-chimping, though I may regret that with flash... 😂
@m0nztam0nk
@m0nztam0nk 10 күн бұрын
European Price for Z63 are OUTRAGEOUS! In Germany its 3000 Euros, With a good deal you can get a Z8 for 3500...thats just plain stupid... at the same time 2500 Dollars (!) in the US is almost 33% cheaper...insane
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Yeah it's not so clear with tax after in some States but we aren't sure how it works. They could end up paying more sometimes.
@quikee9195
@quikee9195 9 күн бұрын
Yeah, the price 3000€ is just crazy. It's 392'000 JPY in Japan, which is about ~2100€ + 10% sale tax and Z8 is 540'000 JPY which is ~2900€ + 10% sale tax.
@nevvanclarke9225
@nevvanclarke9225 9 күн бұрын
I really like your channel guys as it's honest and not full of shouting American rubbish but I'm not a big fan of the Z6iii .... And this is what I would've done why not make two models make a 20 megapixel video centric one with the tilt out screen and then make a 30 megapixel Photography based one so essentially they have the same specs (bar pixels) and ergonomics with a different sensor being the megapixels but they're two different models. One maybe is called the V for video and one is called P for Photography. I think they tried to cater for both but what photographers hate and I can honestly say this because I teach Photography is they hate flip out screens? I hate them. They end up quite damaged as well and they're at risk of being damaged because of the way they flip out. I'm just not a fan of flip out screens at all. It really feels like they made a video camera and that Photography was an afterthought. And that's okay because video is now very popular and I understand that but then just balanced that out by making the same camera with a tilt screen and offer two different models not difficult at all, maybe you're giving is that people that are into Photography can buy the ZF and that's a fair argument but lo and behold that has a flip out screen as well... I don't understand in today's world why you couldn't make two models for two different screens. And I just think for the price of this new camera you can almost get a Z8.... Nikon bullies and I can say this they will stand behind you and they will intimidate you when they are giving you a camera. I've had several professional photographers told me this. I am a professional photographer in Australia but I don't do gear reviews. I don't even have a KZfaq channel for that reason because I get sucked into the whole mantra of having to do gear reviews. I think it's a great camera and sorry for my negativity but I just feel today's world I expected more and I'm just dead set against flip out screens as opposed to a tilt down screen which you really need when you are a photographer. I would not buy this camera if I was a photographer I'm just gonna say that and 24 megapixels for Photography it's okay but it's not cutting edge. It was cutting edge in 2015. Thank you for your channel guys always enjoy your honesty and I agree with what you're saying about, how they basically a big info commercials. these companies send out cameras and while they say at the start of every video Nikon did not pay me to say this. I'm calling absolute rubbish on that. Lumix Canon are all doing the same thing. You better off waiting for about 6 to 8 weeks after a camera has been released and just let the consumers who bought the camera review it. There is no way I would buy this camera given the price of it and compared to what you can get for other cameras on the market if you are just an occasional shooter I'd buy a Fuji film crop Centre camera for half the price and get five lenses if I'm a professional photographer I'm probably not buying this camera either. Maybe if you're professional videographer maybe you could buy this camera but then again you'd probably Own Z8. It just doesn't sit anywhere for me. Tried to be pro but then kind of is.
@russandloz
@russandloz 9 күн бұрын
Guess it’d be too expensive to make two models but that would have been a good idea. A video then a stills one.
@KimHojbergJensen
@KimHojbergJensen 10 күн бұрын
If an alternative Z6 III had all the same features for photography, except it had an APS-C sensor, it would be the new D500 and I think I would get one. I never shoot video at all, so it is irrelevant for me how that would make it for video.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Yes I think a new DX camera is next surely, will be interesting to see!
@craigcarlson4022
@craigcarlson4022 10 күн бұрын
@@russandlozI’d agree with you and Kim…make this new 6iii but with a comparably spec’d modern apsc sensor and i’d buy it straight away. For my full frame uses, this new 6iii is a bit of overkill. So i’ve decided to choose between anZ6ii or ZF (Just am having a hard time coming to terms with the uncomfortable grip and button placement of the ZF).
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
@@craigcarlson4022 I only used the z6ii with single point so if that meets your needs then it’s fantastic. The zf has the latest auto eye which is cool.
@craigcarlson4022
@craigcarlson4022 10 күн бұрын
@@russandloz Russ, Thanks for your experience perspective. Do you think the ZF's IBIS, and the 'look' of its RAW files are noticeably better than the Z6ii's? Those are the only two other aspects of the ZF I've heard users say in it's favor. (The 'look' seems to be describing the default color profile the newer camera is generating). Sorry to trouble you with all these details. But I really feel I'll buy one or the other, and do prefer the Z6ii's grip.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
@@craigcarlson4022 The in body image stabilisation is noticeably better but The is quality looks just as the same as the z6. Which isn’t a bad thing
@daustonian9331
@daustonian9331 10 күн бұрын
US Prices are quoted without taxes. Sales Tax (transaction tax like VAT) varies in some states by literally crossing a road, or maybe just going next door. Companies started to price the same worldwide many years ago. If you recall, when the Euro first came out, it was below 1USD for quite a while; if I recall, as low as .75 USD :1 Euro. It has been the inverse for the last 15 years? If companies had to chase these currencies, it would play havoc. The only time they really watch are in hyper inflationary places. To all of this, recall that companies are in business to MAKE money, not just help the activities they sponsor. For me, and at today's prices, I think the Z 6iii is a nicely priced camera from a company that has proven it will support and update its equipment for at least a few years. I wish I had anything but critical updates from Sony, and from Canon... just let me use another company's lenses. I think you guys are a bit whiney here. Have a pint and go have fun taking pics.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for the prices issue. I’ll be happy to take pictures of pints while drinking them LOL but we are pointing out what a lot of people think. 😊
@daustonian9331
@daustonian9331 8 күн бұрын
@@russandloz I understand - we will just need a keg to get all of us in the pub, relaxing, and enjoying the great tech we have at our fingertips. I do enjoy your channel and the conversations you two have. I hope you grow to the point that Nikon listens to your comments as well! Cheers
@markroscoephotography
@markroscoephotography 10 күн бұрын
Think you would be mad getting a z6iii when z8 is *only* £500 more…. you pay a bit more, but get a lot more
@simonfinnegan7819
@simonfinnegan7819 10 күн бұрын
I think you are mixing shutter types (mechanical vs electronic) and sensor types (CMOS, vs CMOS stacked etc) which will confuse many people
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Yes I think we could well be lol, often the stacked is electronic shutter too?
@simonfinnegan7819
@simonfinnegan7819 10 күн бұрын
@@russandloz I think your confusion is that while most cameras have a mechanical and an electronic shutter, Nikon decided to drop the mechanical shutter from the Nikon Z8 and Z9 because they have fast stacked sensors. Other manufactures have kept both shutter types on their stacked sensor cameras. On cameras without a stacked sensor using the mechanical shutter can avoid rolling shutter effects seen with electronic shutters caused by slower sensor readouts.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
@@simonfinnegan7819 right okay, that makes sense, thanks for including that, so the Z8 could have a mechanical shutter on if needed too
@UKFR
@UKFR 10 күн бұрын
I'm disappointed by the Z6iii specs, on top of the ludicrously long wait for any news and also the lack of DX updates (said as a long-suffering Z50 user desperate to upgrade). The AF should have been cutting edge, not, as described by Nikon as "like the Z8 BEFORE the firmware update". The pre-capture should have been in raw, even at reduced frame rates. The focus bracketing is not mentioned by any KZfaqr so I assume the same lame menu-driven implementation which is useless for handheld macro work in the field? What KZfaqr with small sub numbers seriously needs or wants to film in prores raw? So why is it in the Z6iii? A £2k photo-centric camera should have been the focus of Nikon here. The whole industry is turning into a sad "chase the influencer" parody of itself.
@northofbrandon
@northofbrandon 10 күн бұрын
Hard disagree. These are hybrid cameras. Even the ZF which is supposed to be photo-centric has 10 bit video now, and that's great! The AF simply can not be 'cutting edge' due to the path nikon has taken and the need for sensor stacking to reach the same level as Sony etc, the price metrics that come along with that. I think it's a great AF update and suitable for the camera and price. Is it perfect? No, but god damn the z6/7ii's needed an update.
@Ryan-Payne
@Ryan-Payne 10 күн бұрын
A great camera but simply too expensive at the moment, and Nikon really need this camera to be a great entry point for people either going from aps-c to full frame or moving from another camera brand. I can see this being a great pickup by Christmas time when it's on sale, but many are looking to buy right now! In Aus we have a 10% sales tax and the Z6iii is $4400 AUD where as the Sony a7iv is on sale right now for $2900 AUD, and while the z6iii is the better all around camera, that is a big chunk of change when the Sony is no slouch. Not to mentioned I've seen a few AU ebay auctions going for as low as $4000 AUD for the z8 and a bunch of best offers accepted!
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
I guess the marketing ploy is to get the people who don't mind paying for it now, then swoop the next group of people. Just strange they have the z8 on promotion making it a close choice
@PavelGramatikov
@PavelGramatikov 10 күн бұрын
Great point. They should reduce the price to attract people.
@catmonkey6826
@catmonkey6826 10 күн бұрын
AUS price seems unfair. You're not their favourite market, I get it, UK is 20% more expensive than the US. Don't buy it, buy the Sony, you'll only regret it if you ever owned a Nikon.
@Ryan-Payne
@Ryan-Payne 9 күн бұрын
@@catmonkey6826 They don't seem to hold their value either for their high entry price. The Sony's and Canons seem to be the only ones where resale value holds strong even after another model replaces it.
@PavelGramatikov
@PavelGramatikov 9 күн бұрын
@@catmonkey6826 This is a funny comment. I have a couple of Nikons and I love them all.
@user-ec7dc7hh9o
@user-ec7dc7hh9o 10 күн бұрын
The Fro shoots baseball and boxers to test cameras and you think he is balanced? O dear. He is a self promoting silly man and he plays on that. He is the least useful person to watch. (Honorable mentions to Tony Northrup and Ken Rockwell) Assessing gear is about learning how to work properly with the useful bits of a lens or camera and work around the limitations. I will NEVER shoot baseball and boxercise. It’s utterly irrelevant. I see the Z6iii as a possible future replacement only as a backup lightweight companion camera. For the next few years my Z6ii will do enough to fill that role. The best balanced KZfaqr is Jan Wegner. The Fro is a JOKE (I don’t mid a joke but I do know one when I see one).
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Jan is excellent for wildlife but that’s his niche and expertise. Sure Fro is silly but did point out a few things the Nikon boys didn’t and used it for a situation rather than go through the specs. But sure he does lean towards showman than detail
@user-ec7dc7hh9o
@user-ec7dc7hh9o 9 күн бұрын
It depends MUCH more on your approach. For me a Z6iii will only ever be as a fairly useful companion to my Z9. Others will assess it as a shortcut to getting to do similar things to a Z8/9 without the expense. This is THE classic mistake in assessing cameras and lenses. The truth is there are NO shortcuts. The Z6iii is at best a very very nice entry level to higher performance. It will disappoint you if you expect way too much. It will delight you if you should not expect flagship performance at such a price.
@FeRoOOo71
@FeRoOOo71 10 күн бұрын
poor Nikon Z6iii is a midrange camera being compared to z8 and z9 😭
@alphaandomega2709
@alphaandomega2709 9 күн бұрын
To be honest the Z6iii is still far behind in autofocus, it’s sad they didn’t give the Z8/z9 autofocus to it. Overall I’d still choose Canon, Sony, and newly crowned Panasonic for best Autofocus in 2024. Maybe next year Nikon.
@russandloz
@russandloz 9 күн бұрын
I would say it’s a very high standard now and certainly not bad. But I’ve never used any other brand
@photo2000
@photo2000 9 күн бұрын
Its an overpriced, 4 years behind competition, video-centric, 3rd level focusing hybrid camera.... you would hope considering time they had available that Nikon might try to leapfrog competition (or blow them away ala D3 release)... but no. Yes its an improvement, but for many of us working professionals, does not solve critical issues in the mirrorless system. And if anyone at Nikon is bothering to read... why on earth did you remove lens hood on 24-70mm 2.8 from body of lens and move it to front moving element, exposing that front element to impacts in the field. Its an appalling design choice... there was a reason it was designed that way initially, and if the new staff in R&D don't understand why, you should move on for people who do.
@mikelyon5595
@mikelyon5595 10 күн бұрын
The flippy screen sucks!
@youssefhamidi8152
@youssefhamidi8152 10 күн бұрын
Agree. I have the zf and loveeeee it but absolutely hate the flip screen. Its pointless for the zf given that is a photocenteic camera and not a video camera.
@mikelyon5595
@mikelyon5595 10 күн бұрын
@youssefhamidi8152 I didn't buy the Zf because of the flippy screen and the lack of a grip with a vertical shutter release! I'm glad you enjoy yours!
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Shame they could have made one for both uses. I don’t know why they don’t
@catmonkey6826
@catmonkey6826 10 күн бұрын
Like a pair of old nags moaning about the grass. Get the camera and use it as intended then report back, it's just so boring when people reduce equipment down to spec lists. Honestly this is 2nd rate stuff
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Would you say that most of the KZfaqrs who have had the camera basically are adverts and listing the specs like we said we like to discuss and chat about these things. We also say a few times in the wider perspective they all fantastic cameras and great to use. We failed no one else on KZfaq has discussed the camera like this.
@lozzom
@lozzom 7 күн бұрын
One of us is definitely an old nag ! 😂
@vzshadow1
@vzshadow1 10 күн бұрын
Save yourself 12 1/2 minutes and don’t bother with this video
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
Why's that? You didn't like the discussion then? Looks like lots of people are and joining in 🙂
@bernardlanguillier65
@bernardlanguillier65 9 күн бұрын
So in essence, having not even touched the camera, you already know it can't be as good as reported by other more successful KZfaq channels? Why do I have the feeling that you guys are just attempting to attract viewers?
@Pandles639
@Pandles639 10 күн бұрын
I unsubscribed from a few of these KZfaq dummies after their BS reviews of the Z6iii. It's painful to watch people trying to upsell a product to a fairly educated audience. The Z6iii is overpriced.
@Jay-sr8ge
@Jay-sr8ge 10 күн бұрын
What's better than the z6iii at 2500 USD?
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
I wouldn't even call them reviews, they just go through the specs like adverts most the time. Love him or hate him, Jared Polin did a good review and is looking to discover more about its capability
@Pandles639
@Pandles639 10 күн бұрын
@@russandloz Based on UK pricing, my "review" would end with.... The Z8 is 19% more expensive than the Z6iii and without question it is worth the difference. End of review. :-) And don't even get me started about paying £2700 and not even getting a charger. I haven't looked at the Z8 strap to see how that compares, but that thing Jared pulled out is about the cheapest and nastiest strap I have seen at any price point. Nikon have created a temporary category beater, but cut costs in places so un-Nikon-like.
@russandloz
@russandloz 10 күн бұрын
@@Pandles639 yes the lack of a charger is silly. Surely it wouldn’t cost Nikon much to send one. But great annoyance.
@northofbrandon
@northofbrandon 10 күн бұрын
Overpriced? for 6k raw video in FX? lol ok
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