Order Your Base with the MAIN BUS - Factorio 0.18 Tutorial/Guide/How-to

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Nilaus

Nilaus

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FACTORIO MASTER CLASS
This series of Tutorials and How To Guides help you become a better Factorio Engineer
Each video serves as a beginner's guide but also contains tips and tricks for both veterans players
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00:00 Welcome
01:03 Intro
01:56 Why this video?
02:20 What is a main bus?
03:03 What are the components of a bus?
04:30 How do I get started using a bus?
06:16 How big should my bus be?
08:31 What should I put on the bus?
11:34 How do I split components off the bus?
15:09 How to support the channel
15:49 Advantages/Disadvantages
18:28 Conclusion
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Пікірлер: 621
@Nilaus
@Nilaus Жыл бұрын
All Master Class Blueprints are available on FactorioBin Overview and direct links to all Blueprints: nilaus.atlassian.net/l/cp/HBEUm524 (Pastebin links no longer work)
@realcartoongirl
@realcartoongirl Жыл бұрын
my base is all robot's and the tps is go low im so sad
@monstersaint
@monstersaint 4 ай бұрын
What do you mean by "high compression" items"? Or the term "compression" in general? Thanks.
@sungerbok
@sungerbok 2 ай бұрын
@@monstersaint some items like iron sticks are produced and consumed in bigger numbers but still take the same space on belts as other low volume items . So instead of adding a bus line for it, it's sometimes better to just produce those type of items on site.
@alexflu2
@alexflu2 Ай бұрын
no bus blueprint?
@270eman
@270eman 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I feel like I understand whats going on. I quickly realize I have no idea what is going on.
@trippybruh1592
@trippybruh1592 3 жыл бұрын
Just start playing and also get some blueprint strings especially his base in a book on Factorio prints dot org I think. I didn’t know much how to play but playing the game and building these blueprints helped me figure out how these factories work and I built my own speed and productivity 3 module setup myself with the correct ratios. Also try and use the creative mod in another save and try to just automate all science to get an idea on how you want to build a base.
@arbCannons3395
@arbCannons3395 3 жыл бұрын
Same I build stuff and hope it runs while I'm off doing other things I hope run
@Uberstench2169
@Uberstench2169 3 жыл бұрын
Just started playing I'm at 11hrs of playtime and ngl thought i was kicking ass, watched some of these videos and realized I have no idea what I am doing
@swine13
@swine13 3 жыл бұрын
@rogerwilco99 the Dunning Kreuger phenomenon, i believe. But be that as it may, I have to say I don't see what there is to "get" about Factorio. Everything logically follows on from previous technology. All the buildings clearly display the required materials. Material costs make sense (ie you don't need wood for concrete walls or anything) and the way the game starts is pretty clever at teaching you the fundamentals of gathering materials. It took me a little while to figure out logistics bots, I suppose, but its not a _complicated_ game, it's just a _complex_ game. I think a lot of people dismiss it as too confusing because of how chaotic and intricate it looks, but if they played Factorio they'd discover its a bit like your work flow at your job: it takes time to work out how you want it to go, there's the occasional unexpected situation, but after a few years you have a system that is tailored and efficient for you, and nobody really knows how it works aside from you, but you would say your work day is "pretty straightforward" because you've build it all up over time, with everything having a purpose. So it is with Factorio. You have 100s of building and arms and you're producing all sorts of stuff, but you remember putting most of them there, and what they were supposed to do.
@americankid7782
@americankid7782 3 жыл бұрын
The more knowledge you gain on a subject, the more you realize how little you know.
@hvdveer
@hvdveer 3 жыл бұрын
To put the bus size recommendations in writing: Minimum size: 4 iron 4 copper 2 green circuits 2 plastic 1 steel 1 red circuits Recommend bus size: 8 iron 8 copper 2 -> 4 green circuits 2 plastic 1 steel 1 -> 2 reds circuits Max size: 16 iron 16 copper 6 green circuits 4 plastic 2 steel 2 red circuits
@americankid7782
@americankid7782 3 жыл бұрын
That is far to big numbers for my brain to handle at my level of skill
@veronicaaragon8610
@veronicaaragon8610 3 жыл бұрын
Not all heros wear capes
@Voliere-infoNl
@Voliere-infoNl 3 жыл бұрын
and still look at most main bus factories, and you see none of the belts fully saturated. And people running 8 belts down the whole factory while they tap a full belt of iron right at the start to make green circuits....
@Stabacs
@Stabacs 2 жыл бұрын
No stone?
@vfernandez84
@vfernandez84 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I always come back to this video because I’m completely uncapable of remembering this.
@homelesswizard3161
@homelesswizard3161 3 жыл бұрын
"time to learn this whole mainbus strategy" *10 minutes later* Spaghetti it is.
@stefancristian4324
@stefancristian4324 3 жыл бұрын
lmao I agree
@AyVaZzZ4o0
@AyVaZzZ4o0 3 жыл бұрын
*OR Scratch that!* you can simply install the *Belt Layer* mod and forget all about what a main Bus is and create your sphagetti mess underground inside the belt layer where you don't have to look at it just like me and plop smelting crafting and production modules of ur base EVERYWHERE and ANYWHERE you desire literally doesnt matter in any non sensical order and connect them underground as for belt balancing and throughput problem you can simply again install 2 more mods called Belt Balancer mod which simply gives u this neat block which fixes your belt item transfer (items dont get dilluted on belt lanes) and the Deadlock Crating mod which puts stacks of items inside a single item form called a create boxes and u can uncrate them at the designated location for item consumption ,crafting,production needs on any part of ur base that its needed...
@PhotatoKing
@PhotatoKing 3 жыл бұрын
@@AyVaZzZ4o0 Nice! You save me from create a new world xD
@arturovillarreal2129
@arturovillarreal2129 3 жыл бұрын
Im usually to sleep deprived and hungry while playing this game to make something other than spaghetti
@chinchilla415
@chinchilla415 3 жыл бұрын
Loud laughter from me in real life. Factorio newbie here. This hits home.
@VioletScarelli
@VioletScarelli 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing! Meanwhile my base looks like a toddler threw up their spaghetti dinner all over the map...
@RedGallardo
@RedGallardo 3 жыл бұрын
Mine looks like a war zone. And I don't even play with biters...
@OctEddie
@OctEddie 3 жыл бұрын
My last base (returned after a break) looked like I asked a blind preschooler to organize things.
@svendinsvinderlin4569
@svendinsvinderlin4569 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I respect spaghetti more than main bus bases, it's extremely easy to get to late game with a main bus.
@youngbuck5926
@youngbuck5926 3 жыл бұрын
Haha so as mine :)
@finalcam1740
@finalcam1740 3 жыл бұрын
Spaghetti looks cooler and more interesting imo. Especially a high density spaghetti megabase.
@skashed
@skashed 4 жыл бұрын
This is incredibly useful, I will begin ignoring this advise immediately! (please keep these masterclass videos coming, I really do appreciate them)
@mateovazquez6685
@mateovazquez6685 3 жыл бұрын
Ignoring?
@skashed
@skashed 3 жыл бұрын
@@mateovazquez6685 It's a bad joke, meaning; "Even though I acknowledge the quality of the information, I will still do my own thing"
@delofon
@delofon 3 жыл бұрын
At least you're being honest.
@nikelsad
@nikelsad 2 жыл бұрын
@@skashed I've found that joke a good one :) I've catched myself a few times ignoring some good advice while playing some game (probably Satisfactory) :)
@mmrt5899
@mmrt5899 2 жыл бұрын
For me, it’s more about forgetting than it is ignoring.
@stdint.h
@stdint.h 2 ай бұрын
Watched this video years ago, made the bus, and after some years without playing, I had to re-visit the video to remember why I made the choices I made. Thanks.
@bradkuntzelman5343
@bradkuntzelman5343 4 жыл бұрын
Quick Reference (doing this for myself as I'm sure I'll reference some part of it later) 00:00 Welcome 01:03 Intro 01:09 Where can I get more info or provide feedback? 01:56 Why this video? 02:20 What is a main bus? 03:03 What are the components of a bus? 04:30 How do I get started using a bus? 06:16 How big should my bus be? 08:31 What should I put on the bus? 11:34 How do I split components off the bus? 15:09 How can I support Nilaus? 15:49 Advantages/Disadvantages 18:28 Conclusion 18:50 Join the Order of the Path 18:59 Outro
@namelessgamer327
@namelessgamer327 3 жыл бұрын
it's already in the description
@namelessgamer327
@namelessgamer327 3 жыл бұрын
@@mxdanger oh cool and lmao didn't know other people still watched this
@AB094
@AB094 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@danrobidoux
@danrobidoux Жыл бұрын
This is the video I've been looking for. I don't want blueprints, I want KNOWLEDGE. Well explained, well visualized, just fantastic work.
@masterphillips
@masterphillips 4 жыл бұрын
Guides on "modular-ization" and long range transportation would be greatly appreciated! Always love your work.
@JonesCrimson
@JonesCrimson 3 жыл бұрын
**Jonesy's Guide to Railways:** The best way to avoid collisions and maximize throughput using railways is to use multiple parallel tracks. If you limit it to two, which is very sensible, then you want one rail for each direction. I recommend using your locale's preferred driver side. If you only drive on the right hand side, then place your trains with that same orientation. So now we get to signals. Signals must be places with the same orientation you've decided on for your trains, but signals have to be placed on each individual tracks, so what then? Easy, just place them on only the right hand or left hand side of each track. So, always inbetween tracks for left hand driving and always on the outside for right hand driving. Why use Rail Signals? Rail signals separate tracks into segments. If a train is in a segment, then other trains will stop at the signal where the segment starts, and they will wait. Where to use Rail Signals? Rail signals should separate train stops, they should break up large stretches of rail, and they should be used to make intersections and loops their own segment. This does not remove all threat of crash. This will at most reduce crashes to a near 1% chance for each train currently moving in the same nearby system of tracks. Meaning more trains equals more chance of crashing. Advanced use of rails and Signals. I mentioned loops and intersections. but how do we make them? First of all, with the exception of T-Intersections you generally want the rails to go straight as they normally would. In intersections they cross right over each other as if they don't exist. Next, you simply step back a bit and add a new segment of rail connecting right side to right and left side to left at 90 degree angles. Spacing might take a couple tries but don't sweat it. In Loops You have just the left and right rail, a good distance away from any intersections unless you're feeling particularly adventurous. I cannot stress enough how dangerous it can be for trains to be turning around in the middle of a busy intersection. The first step is to pick which side you want your loop facing, it really doesn't matter which. Then, you want your loop to branch off from the track on the far side. Now just slap down four consecutive right turns. Cool, you have a loop, but only one side can use it and that's dreadfully inefficient isn't it? No worries,just connect the other side outward to the loop at 45 degree angles. The trains will never cross over to the wrong side of the tracks as long as they're only connected to one opposite side of the loop, each. Stations best practices. A station is best placed on a third or other disconnected track with it's own signals separating it from the main tracks. The be clear, the station should not be a part of the segment it is directly connected to, and also it should not be on the main tracks. Rail Chain Signals. As a general rule, don't use Rail Chain Signals. If you really want to use Rail Chain Signals, you should also try to understand Signal Blocks as a prerequisite. The basic mechanic of a Rail Chain Signal is to: never allow a train to enter a segment unless all exits are also clear to use. What does this mean, practically speaking? It can stop long trains from clogging intersections too close to each other. It can tell a train to wait at an intersection and give other non-chain tracks priority, which also helps decrease chances of a wreck. Yaay~! Why avoid using Rail Chain Signals? As I said before, if every exit isn't clear, the chain signal will never allow anything through. This can send your entire factory into an impasse that needs manual remediation. For those of us who build our stations directly off the main track or even those of us who build stations directly on the tracks, Rail Chain Signals will stop trains from even driving past in some cases. It can be a huge headache. If you place these then just make sure to place them before intersection segments and never after segments. Finally, Train Automation. Stations must be placed with the same orientation as signals. By clicking on a train, you can add things to it's schedule. Selecting a stop for the train to go to and setting the train to automatic instead of manual will immediately send it to that stop, where it will wait until its condition for that stop on the schedule is fulfilled. E.G. Inventory Full (of iron). Then, it will head to the next stop on the schedule, without stopping unless the signals warn it of a potential collision. Disclaimer: The above information might not be consistent across all versions.
@MiguelAbd
@MiguelAbd 3 жыл бұрын
@@JonesCrimson Wow, great comment! You could post this to the factorio subreddit, it's really good.
@TommyFitzy1
@TommyFitzy1 3 жыл бұрын
​@@JonesCrimson Generally good advice, except for the paragraph about Rail Chain Signals. Specifically, they don't require all exits to be clear, only the exit the train approaching the signal wants to exit through. Also, unless you are placing signals incorrectly, a base with only Rail Signals will require more manual interventions than a base with Rail Chain Signals. Rail Signals have just 2 states: green (let trains through) and red (don't let trains through). Rail Chain Signals have 3: green (all exits are clear, let ALL trains through), red (no exit is clear, let NO trains through), and blue (some exits are clear while others aren't, let SOME trains through). Trains approaching a blue Rail Chain Signal will stop or continue based on the closest Rail Signal they are heading towards. In general, Rail Signals are for preventing crashes, Rail Chain Signals are for preventing deadlocks. Deadlocks are when 2+ trains are stuck and are preventing each other from ever getting unstuck. Rail Chain Signals prevent this by only letting one train enter an intersection at a time, thus you cannot have two trains blocking each other. Perhaps the simplest example of deadlock is a roundabout with two entry/exits points A and B. Train X enters the roundabout from A and wants to exit through B. While Train X is in the roundabout, Train Y enters from B and wants to exit through A. Train X then gets blocked waiting for Train Y's tail end to stop blocking exit B, but Train Y also cannot exit the roundabout because Train X's tail end is still blocking A. This will never resolve itself and requires manual intervention. Example image here: i.redd.it/z9v975oxq3dz.jpg With Rail Chain Signals at the entry points of the roundabout, Train Y would have waited outside the roundabout until Train X was out of the way entirely. A simple rule of thumb is anytime you have a segment of track smaller than your largest train, you should have a Rail Chain Signal in front of it to ensure every train that enters that block can exit. If no train ever stops with their back end blocking an intersection deadlock should (barring any weird edge cases) be impossible.
@alonsovb
@alonsovb 4 жыл бұрын
I would love an advanced tutorial on city blocks, specifically with trains and loading/unloading stations. Awesome work, man!
@americankid7782
@americankid7782 3 жыл бұрын
10 months late but just making sure you know he made a city block tutorial. 👍
@alonsovb
@alonsovb 3 жыл бұрын
@@americankid7782 you da real mvp
@randymotter51
@randymotter51 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing i think this was missing was perhaps a quick address of the issue of which items should be produced at which point along the bus to reduce the amount of belts needed and minimize the belts made going back the opposite way. Looking at your zoomed out map of the bases does help with this somewhat (excellent tagging by the way), but hearing an explanation of why you position certain production along the bus the way you do would be a huge help for players learning to be more efficient with base planning. Smelting at the beginning is relatively obvious, but say putting certain chemical products or red circuits at what point on the bus and what should be around them or on the opposite side of the bus from them to minimize belts and branches is one of those big head-scratchers for me. It's an issue that makes my bases bigger and harder to manage and get around than they should be.
@dadof0043
@dadof0043 4 жыл бұрын
Good explanation - it is helpful to hear the why and not just the mechanics of building. I particularly liked being able to see the different bus styles and configurations you have used during different season. On the presentation side, another great job! It is really helpful that you list the objectives in the beginning to clearly state what the video is about. I would suggest adding those points as graphics on the screen so they are clear, or if you think that would trigger a "PTSD" from your corporate life, maybe add them to the description of the video. It is a really well done facet of your class and may help people as they begin to create their Factorio how-to library
@BigWolfChris
@BigWolfChris 4 жыл бұрын
Gears... raging remark!!! Tbf, I agree with your thinking though
@sethwilliamson
@sethwilliamson 3 жыл бұрын
Another idea: In addition to the sacred walking path, I've often left room for a shuttle train line running the length of the bus with stops at each build. Toss down a pocket train, select "Solid Fuel" station, and go. :) If I lay this down, it is one lane each side of the bus forming a loop. I arbitrarily use clockwise out of habit. This works well for double-sided busses and it means I don't need to install two stations for each stop as I would for a bi-directional track. You could always manually drive your shuttle I suppose.
@williamrachello3699
@williamrachello3699 3 жыл бұрын
As impressive as this is, I've never really felt the appeal of making a mega-base. I'm much more interested in getting more and more efficient and only making just the right amount to launch the rocket as quickly as possible.
@Loctorak
@Loctorak 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling my favourite part of the process is finding ways to make things work without tearing it all up and replacing it. It's like a puzzle game for me and I end up with ultra dense areas where every available square is being used for something, but good luck figuring out what 😅
@h1dek1kun
@h1dek1kun 2 жыл бұрын
there is a lot of technology that comes after the launching of your first rocket you may want to research, since launching your first rocket unlocks space research
@HakunaWhiskey
@HakunaWhiskey 2 жыл бұрын
I have like 10 saves with minimum 20 hours and I go squirrell brained.. never launched a rocket 😅
@ArcNine9Angel
@ArcNine9Angel 2 жыл бұрын
And that's completely valid. One of the many nice things about games like Factorio, wide range of buildstyles and decision making is viable in different ways.
@biocode4478
@biocode4478 2 жыл бұрын
wouldn't say this is meant to turn into a megabase. if anything you will have scalability issues with the bus method compared to using trains or logistics for more flexible material transfer for a megabase the bus itself creates a bottleneck. the bus is simply a good way to finish the base game and it is a canonical organization idea
@sebthompson7871
@sebthompson7871 4 жыл бұрын
That last pointer is so true, the amount of times I have forgotten (normally too eager to start producing) to space my production back from the main bus and I can no longer fit a path or train through there. It is also good to leave a decent gap for things like merging two materials onto half of a belt, if you leave things so tight with no space it can get very messy.
@vonhoenhine1922
@vonhoenhine1922 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch, this has really helped me to wrap my head around the idea of a main bus and how to better use it, I've checked out a few videos and so far you've not only explained it much better but also provided some decent tips and examples!
@lenaboyer6981
@lenaboyer6981 3 жыл бұрын
Really helpful tutorial. I keep seeing advice to avoid looking up how to do things, which I've been trying to stick to because half the fun is figuring out how to build, but I like having the option of watching a short tutorial for a specific technique so I can fill in the gaps in my knowledge without spoiling too much.
@Tommycopter
@Tommycopter 4 жыл бұрын
These videos are unbelievably helpful to a noob like myself! Really appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos and the way you explain in so much detail without it needing to be several hours long. Thank you!
@Lavi____
@Lavi____ 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I've been struggling to properly build my main bus and your examples have really helped me think up new ideas for my current playthrough.
@McSmurfy
@McSmurfy 2 жыл бұрын
This has helped me a lot with the gears brainteaser because I tried building lots of gears on a belt branching out instead of building it next the building requiring it. You saved me lots of hours because I might not have thought of it.
@DanielHartz
@DanielHartz 4 жыл бұрын
Such a great argument about Iron Gears. I loathe having them on the bus.
@SudoFPS
@SudoFPS Жыл бұрын
Your guides and blueprints are beyond helpful. Thank you for all your efforts.
@brianoster5812
@brianoster5812 10 ай бұрын
Excellent, excellent tutorial. I upvoted, subscribed, etc. about 5 min in. I am about 20-30 hours into my first game and quickly realized it was a giant spaghetti mess that simply would not scale, so decided to stop and look for strategies. Makes 100% sense to me. This was the first that I found in what looks to be deep into the series so I will definitely be checking out your other tutorials.
@B1g_Daddy
@B1g_Daddy 2 жыл бұрын
Very good advice in this video. Finally getting around to a mega-base on v1.0 and was looking for something on properly organising smelting - never done them as columns before, but now so obvious how the rest of production is usually done
@errantjellyfish9340
@errantjellyfish9340 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nilaus
@sethdugas9795
@sethdugas9795 3 жыл бұрын
This annotation is super useful in this style of tutorial. Thank you so much for that added touch.
@AvengerGatesOfficial
@AvengerGatesOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
I'm loving this series Nilaus!! It made me want to go back to playing factorio. I never went passed green science haha. I'm playing again, already did your jumpstart base from the previous masterclass and today I may create my first main bus! Thanks again
@Zilldian1
@Zilldian1 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video / Guide Nilaus, Thanks for what you do for the community!
@kurogawa
@kurogawa 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! It really digs into the fundamentals of buses without being too long. I would like to see some more tips and tricks for pull-offs from the bus.
@mikefowell93
@mikefowell93 4 жыл бұрын
This video was informative, well paced, and in the Nilaus spirit. Felt bad about the not so positive feedback on the previous video but this feels like you enjoyed yourself more making this video and that's the most important thing when it comes to your content.
@swine13
@swine13 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, its called a main bus... Here i am just calling it my "massive rod" schematic. And I thought I was such a genius for figuring it out but it turns out it's a well known thing lol RIP
@DudeTheMighty
@DudeTheMighty 3 жыл бұрын
Just means you found a way to be efficient is all. :)
@windflier1684
@windflier1684 3 жыл бұрын
You are genius to figure it out all by yourself! Just because it is a well known thing, doesn't mean the person who figured it out aren't a genius
@notmynormalusername1
@notmynormalusername1 3 жыл бұрын
There are a few videos pf yours I've seen that caused me to restart my first playthrough. Love it.
@Aaron-mp9sy
@Aaron-mp9sy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nilaus, I've watched this video a few times. I consider this video the most important of all your master class videos.
@Sifizero
@Sifizero 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for the in-depth topics. you and JD are my two reference builders
@hondahirny
@hondahirny 9 ай бұрын
3:24 Looks like you built an airport and the belts are a complex luggage handling system. Looks really cool 😊 Factorio is so fun. First time I played, it was about 12 hours straight.
@joelfett4739
@joelfett4739 2 жыл бұрын
It was worth watching the whole video, now I know about keeping a certain space between bus and production it makes more sense now
@Naib0930
@Naib0930 4 жыл бұрын
Great pacing! Good complete information, nicely done.
@FrostRare
@FrostRare 9 ай бұрын
I just installed this game cus I thought it looked cool. Realized it was harder than i expected. Looked up “beginners guide”. I feel like I showed up for my first day of kindergarten and just walked into a college calculus class. Lord… what have I gotten myself involved with
@weekendwarri0r
@weekendwarri0r 4 жыл бұрын
Really liking the thumbnails for these Nilaus! They look awesome!
@rachelf6745
@rachelf6745 3 жыл бұрын
i like your explanation for not putting gears on the bus, because it basically puts into words what i realized through intuition but couldn't articulate the reasoning for
@Jotto999
@Jotto999 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I have been playing on and off for years, but could never quite break out of spaghetti. It's always a plate of spaghetti throw at a wall. This tutorial might finally give me the necessary structure, that is both firm yet also extendable.
@Darklordcrash
@Darklordcrash 10 ай бұрын
bruh. im just getting into factorio and you sir just taught me more than most of the other stuff i've seen today. Thanks
@GaiaSteinbuch
@GaiaSteinbuch 3 жыл бұрын
Such a super useful video! I love that you have a Sacred Path, it is your unique idea (as far as I have seen on KZfaq so far at least).
@TheyCalledMeT
@TheyCalledMeT 4 жыл бұрын
14:30 i prefer the [inverse] waterfall(prioritize to main lane) to evenly spreading, keep the prefered pick off lanes full and see possibly empty lanes which yell in your face to be refilled ^^
@WoWdropzone
@WoWdropzone 4 жыл бұрын
Very well done, Professor Nilaus!
@unacceptable6625
@unacceptable6625 2 жыл бұрын
I keep watching your videos to get an idea into how to properly structure my base, and find myself getting completely bottlenecked because of the way I structured my bus off of the beginning. So far I have started my world over 3 separate times because the way I structured my main bus from the beginning prevents me from using the bus later on. Now that I have blue science I realize I left no room for sulfur, plastic, and oil/chemical manufacturing, so I crept the resources all the way from the back of the bus where they're made and brought them to the front of the production, but all of my branches are spaghetti and I left no room for moving resources past my branches for bus production which are inherently made to be expandable. First world had no expansion room for mining/smelting, second world had a circuit/plastic bottleneck (also I was spending 80% of my time hunting down nests because a TON spawned right near my spawn area, I had invasions since I literally first placed iron miners.) Third and current playthrough is now experiencing liquid manufacturing bottlenecks as I didnt realize id need so many liquid resources to make electric engines and drone frames and batteries; and that's without knowing what else needs to be made by advanced oil. Im temped to use a lot of landfill to reclaim the areas towards the front of the bus (which is surrounded on 3 sides by medium sized lakes, where I first started) so that I can make all of my plastics, sulfur, sulfuric acid, and lubricant streamlined into the bus. But now im experiencing a delima where I dont want to expand branches on one side of the bus so that I can keep all of my science close together and dont have to backtrack with undergrounds through other branches just so I can do research. Honestly im tempted to just start a fourth time over so that I can structure my base from the beginning with space enough for plastics and steel, and enough room for liquid materials to make their way to manufacturing points; but im so deep in that it's almost worth just deleting a huge portion of the base to restructure.
@seanpeacock4290
@seanpeacock4290 4 жыл бұрын
one solution I have tried for expanding the main bus is to restock it part way down the line. I build a train station at some point where the belts look a bit slim and funnel that iron and/ or copper into the buss just before a belt balancer. I also have an off site smelter so my trains don't carry raw ore only finished plate. I started doing that because the ore stacks at 50 while the plates stack at 100 giving double capacity for the train cars.
@PanduPoluan
@PanduPoluan 2 жыл бұрын
Same. That's why between each production units, I give some wide separation so I can inject things as necessary. Even things such as Green Circuits.
@NickHanley
@NickHanley 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoying these Masterclass videos. At this point I've developed some decent concepts and blueprints. I've adopted your city block concept, and have made some really good blueprints for oil and uranium processing. I've also made some train blueprints that I think are the best I've seen done. Quite a bit of what I've done is due to inspiration from you, so thanks N!
@padreigh
@padreigh 4 жыл бұрын
Thats lost of busses shown, nice examples of clear design. Like the master builder series so far.
@GreenSamurai2
@GreenSamurai2 6 ай бұрын
Been playing factorio for years (almost 3000 hours total) and just saw this video. Some good points i will be trying to implement. And others i already do. Always put science on one end of the main bus. Always connect science to labs away from main bus. Never stop feeding green red and blue circuits.
@Baleur
@Baleur 3 жыл бұрын
I cant wait to start seeing videos like this about Dyson Sphere Program
@spiritmorin
@spiritmorin 4 жыл бұрын
I approve this message! Well done.I stop explain everything about this game. For now on I will simply share those tutorial.
@Dark_Surge
@Dark_Surge 9 күн бұрын
started this game and i love your videos
@TheSauceBoss
@TheSauceBoss 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this has been very interesting and informative. Please keep it up
@Knewman7777
@Knewman7777 3 жыл бұрын
On a smaller base, I like to run the bus well past the production lines then have 3 lanes in one direction and one going back the other way. Anything that makes it past the last production line doesn't just sit there, it circles back around on the return line to be available for all production again.
@mrktchr
@mrktchr 3 жыл бұрын
I like your walkways. Without something crossing the bus, it's a little harder to orient yourself. Your "city blocks" break it up in an appealing way. Thanks!
@csabanagy1879
@csabanagy1879 4 жыл бұрын
Praise for the path!
@sveno.4540
@sveno.4540 4 жыл бұрын
A great tutorial. I think it's good that you took the advice to speak more slowly. You're a lot easier to understand. At least for people like me whose English isn't the best. A tutorial about the scalability / extensibility of the individual production sections would be very interesting.
@olafredriksson5607
@olafredriksson5607 4 жыл бұрын
Thank for this. It felt much better pacing than the last one this time you were able to breathe. :-)
@stokescomp
@stokescomp 4 жыл бұрын
We love these Master class videos. Very good information and will be sure to use in my own bases. I have made spaghetti bases before and its nice to make some order.
@WilliamSpano
@WilliamSpano 4 жыл бұрын
This is awesome, thanks Nilaus!
@ggpickle928
@ggpickle928 3 жыл бұрын
CONGRATS ON 1K!!!
@mr.greybis4547
@mr.greybis4547 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome serie, very helpful and short videos
@elliotanimations1067
@elliotanimations1067 Жыл бұрын
You're a god damned machine, well done man
@ricardotamez1037
@ricardotamez1037 3 жыл бұрын
Estupenda explicación sobre la distribución y optimización de los recursos ordenando la base con main bus
@mbroughton
@mbroughton 3 жыл бұрын
Superb. Thanks as always Nilaus.
@alstonrodriguez5888
@alstonrodriguez5888 4 жыл бұрын
The ad before the video was a masterclass
@Rikai644
@Rikai644 3 жыл бұрын
Ironic
@RigelOrionBeta
@RigelOrionBeta Жыл бұрын
This is a great explanation of a bus for people who already know what a bus is.
@szymoniak75
@szymoniak75 3 ай бұрын
yeah way too many things were left unexplained
@wogleler3108
@wogleler3108 4 ай бұрын
You are great at explaining certain concepts. If teachers explained like you school would be something different. Keep making vids !
@golkarath2540
@golkarath2540 3 жыл бұрын
This is my second Time watching the Series, after getting into Factorio again and realizing, i'm so bad at this game, i'm building too small and way to chaotic so thanks again for all those neat advices ^^
@humoodalmutairi4784
@humoodalmutairi4784 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm a new player and this is very useful and helpful for me to get started :D
@choloepus
@choloepus 3 жыл бұрын
I learned to appreciate the Transport Drones mod. They simplify transportation greatly. If you find managing a bus to be tedious and don't want a train grid where you can get run over every once in a while, they are worth a shot.
@VeilingSun
@VeilingSun 3 жыл бұрын
One advantage of building on one side is that it is a lot easier to bring in trains on the unbuilt side to top-off resource lines particularly after ultra hungry production modules sucks resource lines dry.
@n8wolf575
@n8wolf575 3 жыл бұрын
who the fuck can dislike this. like seriously. ive known the bus before, kinda came up with it myself, because i use Bus systems at work itself and it makes sense ! Good video ! nicely structured and clear.
@icaruzzzzzz
@icaruzzzzzz 4 жыл бұрын
Great advice at the end hah!
@kzaen
@kzaen 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I totally understood everything you said
@HarryWuzHere
@HarryWuzHere 4 жыл бұрын
this video was very informative and succinct, especially as a newcomer to factorio. to be honest, i was hoping for a demonstration as i am very new to the game, but the video was still very helpful. also you have a nice voice.
@winkbrace
@winkbrace 4 жыл бұрын
Great job! I think these videos are going to be watched for a long time by new people.
@kingkoksi80
@kingkoksi80 3 жыл бұрын
Newbie here. Can confirm.
@Merguin
@Merguin 3 жыл бұрын
8:35 can we take a moment and look at that genius design for the copper and iron plate 8 lane semi balancer, that takes 2 lanes of each 4 lane way and balances them with the other 2 lanes of the other 4 lane way? This is fucking genius. I have thought so many times of doing this, but never got a decent idea on how to re-balance the 8 copper/iron plate lanes without a massive 8 lane balancer. Thank you so much!
@anderskorsback4104
@anderskorsback4104 Жыл бұрын
One thing I've done in my current base: At the end of the bus, there is one lane of every material on the bus looping back to the start of the bus. I've found that if input goods come in irregularly in large batches (such as when you just have one mining outpost of every kind), it's rather the production at the start rather than the end of the bus that gets starved. Stuff piles up at the end of the bus (and is slowly drained by the production hooked up to the end), while the start of it is starved. By having a single return lane, stuff that gets through the whole bus without being grabbed off it gets another go at it, and the supply is more evenly divided between consumers at different parts of it.
@BadBeardDude
@BadBeardDude 4 ай бұрын
This looks amazing. I've only just discovered steam power and can't imagine a day when I'll have evolved to this size factory but consider my mind blown.
@tifforo1
@tifforo1 3 жыл бұрын
6:37 Minimum bus: 4 iron, 4 copper, 2 green, 2 plastic, 1 steel, 1 red (these are not the only materials on bus) 6:51 Maximum bus: 16 iron, 16 copper, 6 green, 4 plastic, 2 steel, 2 red (split iron and copper; 8 iron one side and 8 iron other side) 7:43 Recommended bus: 8 iron, 8 copper, 2 green with room to expand to 4, 2 plastic, 1 steel, 1 red with room to expand to 2
@lipslide101
@lipslide101 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Came back to the video for this.
@xota-prebs4593
@xota-prebs4593 3 жыл бұрын
Tak man!! Den bedste Bus tutorial jeg har set!
@jakemccloud2965
@jakemccloud2965 4 ай бұрын
I didn't think to have a dedicated space to walk or drive before this. thanks .
@AirmetSierra
@AirmetSierra 3 жыл бұрын
Nice guide! When I first started playing I intentionally avoided looking up any kind of strategy to see what I would come up with on my own. I ended up building what I call the spaghetti bus, where you have the general concept of a main bus in mind, but you try to put every single product on the bus and severely underestimate the amount of space and materials you'll need.
@johnmarston5383
@johnmarston5383 Жыл бұрын
Me building 200 assembly machines all feeding off 2 yellow iron plate belts
@Elyandarin
@Elyandarin 3 жыл бұрын
I've got sort of a looped bus; it goes around my main base and a few outposts, branching a bit before going back to the beginning. The advantage is, I can input and output any bus materials anywhere along the line, and there is considerable storage on the belts. Also, since the bus has consistent width everywhere, I've got a blueprint I can just paste everywhere I need to expand the thing. Disadvantage is, I'm only now realizing I made the bus too thin to start with, and changing it now will be a huge undertaking...
@purrfekt
@purrfekt 2 жыл бұрын
Coming from your previous Jump Start Base guide to this... makes my head explode. Much respect.
@Nilaus
@Nilaus 2 жыл бұрын
if you want to see the natural transition from the Jump Start base to a Bus Base, then I would recommend checking out one of my Lets Plays like "Lets Start Automating" or the latest one "Base in a Book"
@purrfekt
@purrfekt 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nilaus Thanks, just started watching the series!
@Brian8059
@Brian8059 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, Nilaus. :)
@shadowhenge7118
@shadowhenge7118 4 жыл бұрын
I use a back bus for science packs so I don't need to move my science labs forward periodically. I also use a mini bus within science pack production and make the engines for both blue and yellow science in one location, reducing the overall branches to build engines twice.
@tomsterbg8130
@tomsterbg8130 2 жыл бұрын
I got an idea solving many disadvantages sacrificing some of the advantages. I'll try making a single side main bus with a second buffer bus. The idea behind this is to allow for extreme megabase expansion while keeping everything saturated without the chance of any shortages unless there's not enough train demand.
@simonbeynon5992
@simonbeynon5992 Жыл бұрын
What confuses me about your bus size recommendations is that you didn't mention Stone/Oils/Coal which I have seen you add to the main bus for explosives and blue science (I've not got further than blue science myself so if used in later recipes I don't know) by not talking about these it makes it more difficult to plan out the width of your bus. Should they be added or not?
@shawnwilt7196
@shawnwilt7196 6 ай бұрын
I use a science bus. I bring lines of produced science packs on the opposite side of their respective production li es from the main bus and then just bus them into my science research facility. I am by no means a "pro" player, but this just makes sense to me
@OldManClassic
@OldManClassic 2 жыл бұрын
This was so helpful!
@ryudomesayonara5806
@ryudomesayonara5806 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. absolutely beautiful.
@willian.gruber
@willian.gruber 4 жыл бұрын
I use priority splitter to take from the bus, and just after it 3 more splitters to shift everything to the belt line that had items taken from. This way I know if the item needs more production, and sidefeed it to refill the 4 lanes. The sidefeed may be more furnaces, etc. I use one-sided bus. I think balancers are bad for control. After prioritizing, if you see an empty lane, just sidefeed it.
@GSuii
@GSuii Жыл бұрын
Did a bus for the Dyson sphere program. Was my magnum opus in that game :)
@jeremyfenton354
@jeremyfenton354 2 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks
@sergelysak
@sergelysak Жыл бұрын
Nilaus, I did the math on the rebalancing section. And I believe you don't need the two splitters at the exit. I am new to Factorio, so it is possible I am making a mistake, but with the assumption that a splitter evenly distributes two inputs to two outputs I believe I am correct.
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