Making calcium acetate from Tums
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8 жыл бұрынHey guys, today we are making some calcium acetate from TUMS. In a previous video I said i would get to this eventually...but I decided to do it right away.
I should add, the reason I didn't just try to wash away the sugar with water is because it forms an insanely terrible suspension that is a pain to deal with or filter off.
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@mikebarnacle1469 7 жыл бұрын
The reason I'm addicted to these videos is the subtle dry humor sprinkled about
@ramenlover3608 3 жыл бұрын
@Duncan Marcellus nice alt account lol
@oscill8ocelot 8 жыл бұрын
"a nice Tums fire" - lol, awesome. =P
@mindovermanners_ 8 жыл бұрын
If you still have mercury, I would recommend creating mercury (II) iodide. It's a beautiful red color and has an interesting property where if you heat it, it will turn into a bright yellow powder. Pretty simple to make as well.
@boredbrother6676 3 жыл бұрын
2:59 I never thought I’d hear those words in my life 😂🤣
@KnutNukem 8 жыл бұрын
Quality content right here.
@takumifujiwara1931 8 жыл бұрын
These positive vibes #niceshirt
@NileRed 8 жыл бұрын
+Hans Müller thanks!
@NileRed 8 жыл бұрын
+Hans Müller thanks!
@NileRed 8 жыл бұрын
+Hans Müller thanks!
@NileRed 8 жыл бұрын
+Hans Müller thanks!
@RelinaUlryy 4 жыл бұрын
As an end-stage renal patient, I have to take enormous amounts of calcium acetate with every meal to bind with phosphorous in my stomach before it enters into my blood stream.
@ToXiCxMadness2 4 жыл бұрын
6:51 the magnetic stir bar looks motionless yet it’s mixing the liquid quite heavily
@jamesweldrick9761 8 жыл бұрын
Very excited/intrigued for the future uracil video! Great content as always though!
@krausrepair1171 8 жыл бұрын
Great video Nile. What happened to the mercury distillation? My mercury will forever be dirty and contaminated without you.
@boredbrother6676 3 жыл бұрын
Organic or man made mercury
@zachx4338 8 жыл бұрын
Could you possibly make a video with different types of uses for the vacuum pump setup that you sometimes use? I would love to see more about that piece of equipment from your point of view.
@therandomman2971 8 жыл бұрын
Can you make that stuff from chalk?
@bobdole57 5 жыл бұрын
Its like a Tums festival
@proud2deviate 8 жыл бұрын
Recently, I was searching for a smallish bag of sand for a sand bath. I looked in the pet section at Wal Mart and came across a bag of Premium Reptile Sand (or something like that.) I passed on it though, because the sole listed ingredient was calcium carbonate. Very nice, fine white granules, IIRC. Might be easier than Tums if you want another go ;)
@MadScientist267 2 жыл бұрын
Heh love these mentions. It's like all the shit is out there if you know what rock to look under... Not that they're intentionally "hiding" calcium carbonate from anyone... 🤣
@jesscorbin5981 Жыл бұрын
Calcium sand on ebay
@a3xccy379 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome Videos as always ! Due to it beign light weight and fluffy and easy to get it on fire calcium acetate was used in old days as fuel source for explorers they took it with them dump alcohol on them make the jelly and then paste it on wood logs to burn it. People think it could be the greek fire. Amazing
@ficolas2 8 жыл бұрын
but greek fire has nothing to do with alcohol jelly
@a3xccy379 8 жыл бұрын
ficolas2 I can have connections as this also afloats on top of water ...
@TizonaAmanthia 6 жыл бұрын
So, burning off the sugar, is this process called Calcination? I don't think I've seen you do this one before, hooray for new content!
@sobbe07 8 жыл бұрын
Great video as always!
@FantasmaNaranja 8 жыл бұрын
3 mins ago vid was posted 9 mins ago and it takes 10 mins to watch "great video" and you fully watched it of course
@sobbe07 8 жыл бұрын
+FantasmaNaranja Because I'm incapable of typing a comment as the video is playing. Troll.
@mattk6315 8 жыл бұрын
"an beaker would be better" - Nile Red #NileRedForPresident2016
@stormtorch 5 жыл бұрын
*lives in canada*
@quickscience5090 4 жыл бұрын
Sprinkles HCl on opponents
@redwithblue_dex 24 күн бұрын
Too young and lives in Canada so no
@ForcesOfOdin 3 жыл бұрын
"We have a nice tums fire going" 😂
@chasestuff2230 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks this helped me a lot dude
@deepovertone 8 жыл бұрын
Since the Calcium Carbonate isn't very soluble in water, Why not just crush them up and wash the other ingredients away with water? Seems that most of the sweetness and binders could rather easily be washed away with a few water washings. Much easier than trying to burn them away?
@NileRed 8 жыл бұрын
+Timothy Meche I forgot to say why. It just forms a suspension that never settles. And it is super hard to filter and becomes a mess. I think there is corn starch too, which doesnt wash away anyway
@user255 8 жыл бұрын
+Nile Red I think you can haste and even get better result with the burning, if you add some H2O2 to it or liquid O2. Maybe some other oxidant would work too... NO2?
@joeysavel4224 7 жыл бұрын
the yellow color is actually contaminates like sugar, flavoring, and leftover carbon from the burnt off sugar. I did this with egg shells and used a lot more calcium carbonate and less of a concentration of acetic acid plus extra filtering which resulted in a completely white solution and precipitate the whole time. just trying to give you a couple tips. good luck if you try it again!
@jonasstrzyz2469 7 жыл бұрын
Is there the possibility of there being some sort of CalciumAcetate(bi)Carbonate salt forming? Just a question I had since you added an acces of calcium carbonate.
@icedragonair 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, a nice cozy tums fire. Almost as good as an aspirin fire.
@siggyincr7447 4 жыл бұрын
A cheaper and cleaner source of calcium carbonate would be the lime they sell as a soil additive for increasing soil pH. Some people people have been suggesting chalk but most chalk sticks are actually made of gypsum and a binder these days.
@kensclark 8 жыл бұрын
You can also react calcium chloride and sodium carbonate (or bicarbonate) to get calcium carbonate.
@MadScientist267 2 жыл бұрын
And you get calcium chloride from Tums? 🤔
@kensclark 2 жыл бұрын
@@MadScientist267 No? Tums contains calcium carbonate.
@eier5472 2 жыл бұрын
But you don't get a nice Tums fire
@MadScientist267 2 жыл бұрын
@@kensclark Don't stand up too quick when those come by... You'll get nailed right in the forehead. Jus sayin.
@nolanwilson3021 8 жыл бұрын
"So at this point we have a nice tums fire going" 2:57 Made me cackle XD
@rolandsandoval6786 6 жыл бұрын
I used 3 775mg tum tablets, I crushed them with a pill crusher. I mixed it with about 3 ounces of ethanol for about 15 mins then I let it sit for a few hours. What I got now is white precipitate at the bottom and the ethanol is a green color. Correct me if I'm wrong but sucrose is soluble in ethanol while calcium carbonate isn't. I should have about 1.5grams when it's dried
@MadScientist267 2 жыл бұрын
Well? Lol
@edwardvarby4363 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Tums could be fermented to produce vinegar, converting the calcium carbonate to calcium acetate.
@jjppmm29 8 жыл бұрын
IIRC there are generic versions of Tums that have little or no sugar in them or even any other additives... though off the top of my head I couldnt tell you of any.
@thomasryan2847 8 жыл бұрын
can you do a synthesis of pyridine from niacin?
@kevinbyrne4538 8 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to the video on making "Sterno" (gelled alcohol).
@SkylerPC 8 жыл бұрын
hey nile! Have you ever considered making silica aerogel? It's got some very cool properties like great heat resistance and its exceptionally low weight. There's a few tutorials out there, but i feel you might be able to do it easier and cheaper than others because you're on a budget. Thanks for your consideration.
@NileRed 8 жыл бұрын
+Skyler P.C. about a year ago i was super interested but i kind of forgot :p
@SkylerPC 8 жыл бұрын
yeah it seems like it'd be pretty cool, even if it was just as a novelty. I don't know of any applications regular people might have for it, but it'd be a cool project just for fun.
@NileRed 8 жыл бұрын
Skyler P.C. i mean, it is definitely something cool just to play with
@SzeregowyCieplak 4 жыл бұрын
Everyday ends with a Tums festival
@ConnorNolanTech 4 жыл бұрын
I see you too are a man of culture.
@mrhomescientist 8 жыл бұрын
What's the benefit of the burning step? I would think that if the impurities are sugars like you mentioned, you could just dissolve the tablets directly in water and recover the pure CaCO3 as whatever doesn't dissolve. If there were any inert binders that also wouldn't dissolve in this step, then you could filter them off after reacting the carbonate into the acetate.
@Dude8718 8 жыл бұрын
Read the description. Also I like your videos too, where've you been?
@mrhomescientist 8 жыл бұрын
+The Herb Damn! I always get mad at people that don't read those and look at me now. I posted a few videos recently, check em out!
@shrijkumar8704 8 жыл бұрын
while extracting caffeine can we use any thing except DCM
@NutSaxs 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for late comment but is it possible that you make those alcohol jellies with just tums since they’re mostly made of sugar and calcium carbonate?
@buspsychologist9640 Жыл бұрын
i think the sugar in the process would be a mess in the making of the calcium acetate process
@aliarshad5551 7 жыл бұрын
Dear can we use CCR calcium carbonate, which is use in p.v.c pipes
@Bouzsi 4 жыл бұрын
4:38 RIP tums. You were a good friend to me.
@Chomzik 8 жыл бұрын
I think that easier method would be to "dissolve" tablets in water and filtrate calcium carbonate. CaCO3 is rather poorly soluble in water (solubility is even smaller in slightly basic solution) so this procedure should be much faster then burning all sugar. But your procedure is also interesting.
@NileRed 8 жыл бұрын
+Chomzik i should have mentioned that i tried... It becomes a terrible suspension that takes forever to filter
@pixelpatter01 7 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't a cheap bag of masonry lime from a hardware store contain more calcium oxide and be suitable for making calcium acetate without all the trouble from TUMS?
@thebestofall007 8 жыл бұрын
Would it be cheaper to use chalk for the source of calcium carbonate? I mean the CHEAP plain white chalk, not the fancy "waterproof" or colored chalk either.
@moamenazizieh3044 6 жыл бұрын
Can you try to make the tums again from the calcium carbonate that you extracted ?
@hikaru-live 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the sugars can be removed by powdering the Tums up and dissolve the sugar. Calcium carbonate dissolves a lot less than sugar, so this process should dissolve off all the sular and leave you with a slightly sticky (leftover sugar) pile of calcium carbonate powder.
@editname6868 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I was thinking. But it uses F I R E
@editname6868 2 жыл бұрын
So it’s om
@editname6868 2 жыл бұрын
Ok
@WolverinStudio 3 жыл бұрын
Calcium Carbonate aka Quick Lime. You can also make this by just burning limestone for several hours.
@origamigek 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Nile, instead of eggshells or tums I'm currently trying to make CaAc from a rock I found in my garden. I think it's mostly CaCO3, the rock was easy to powderize and it's almost pure white. But it doesn't dissolve very well and leaves a faintly yellowish greenish solution. Only a fraction had been able to dissolve. Have any idea on what to do next? Just try to dissolve it in more and more acetic acid?
@origamigek 8 жыл бұрын
Oh, I was only halfway the video, seems like the yellow color is nothing to worry about.
@TheKnaeckebrot 8 жыл бұрын
+ᴠᴧᴨᴛᴧᴃᴌᴧcᴋ does it bubble while dissolving in acids?
@origamigek 8 жыл бұрын
TheKnaeckebrot It does, but way less then I expected. With each addition the fuzzing is minimal and dies down pretty quickly. So it doesn't seem like the acetic acid is the limiting reagent, but it should be!
@zavalondc 2 жыл бұрын
wath a great video!!! in my country we can buy pure calcium carbonate medical grade for like 20€ per kg
@nadipenadinesh6513 8 жыл бұрын
maybe u can react the tums powder with calcium nitrate and produce a mixture of caco3 and cao?????
@jacobwaldman1888 8 жыл бұрын
Can you do this with calcite or limestone?
@lich_boss2115 8 жыл бұрын
would you be able to use black board chalk to do this reaction?
@KleinLuzi 4 жыл бұрын
chalk is mostly made of calicum sulfate, so yea. It would work but you would produce sulfiric acid while doint it. It wouldn't produce CO2 during the reaction
@manithapasandul473 8 жыл бұрын
the esyiet way to this is get some calcium carbonate
@RedDogForge Жыл бұрын
so my propane forge would make quick work of the initial conversion?
@sergioalvescordeiro9495 Жыл бұрын
Será que não é melhor misturar Ca(OH)2 com ácido acético??
@yessin0624 8 жыл бұрын
make a video about extracting pure lactulose
@chemistrylab4497 7 жыл бұрын
actually i think that by heating the calcium carbonate in the first of the video can make some calcium oxyde. CaCO3 --> CaO + CO2
@mistertheguy3073 7 жыл бұрын
Chemistry Lab true, but it still reacts with the vinegar
@theterribleanimator1793 7 жыл бұрын
Mister Theguy but the end result us the same?
@wilsonhui475 6 жыл бұрын
+The Terrible Animator of course, btw CaCO3 decompose at around 800C so not a big deal tbh
@boobiesandshit 8 жыл бұрын
Why did you choose not to powderise the Tums before heating it? Seems as though it would have been easier to deal with post burning, even though I can imagine it sticking and forming into a disc of some sorts.
@NileRed 8 жыл бұрын
+Something Something it kind of all just melts together anyway. Also it was due to laziness
@lohphat 8 жыл бұрын
Why not use a food grinder/blender or mortar and pestle to maximize the surface area first?
@brandonbaker9106 5 жыл бұрын
The binders
@YYZed Жыл бұрын
This is a regular Tums Festival.
@liammcneely4013 2 жыл бұрын
would it be possibly to remove the other stuff from the calcium carbonate powder by dissolving it in Ethanol or some other chemical?
@buspsychologist9640 Жыл бұрын
well the calcium acetate here would be later used in a solution with ethanol, so it would probably have some trace, therefore inaccurate amounts of ethanol in the final product
@chemplay1799 8 жыл бұрын
Nice stuff here :) Did you study chemistry or are you just very curious about all this ? ^^
@mrkint7083 4 жыл бұрын
3 years late ik, but I believe he has a bachelor’s in Biochemistry
@WaffleSmoof 8 жыл бұрын
Can you just start with road chalk?
@spiderdude2099 3 жыл бұрын
So…..correct me if I’m wrong but couldn’t you just take the tums and dissolve it in water to remove the sugar and leave behind the insoluble calcium carbonate? It would take some thorough washing but….idk it might be better than incineration
@XXLSkinnyMcGee 8 жыл бұрын
can't you use some kind of spatula to remove any given chemical from a beaker/flask instead of adding more water to wash it out?
@NileRed 8 жыл бұрын
+Skinny McGee You can, but water is just so much easier
@edwardvarby4363 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if one could ferment tums, to make calcium acetate in one op. Course it'd be mixed with the other junk.
@da1otta 6 ай бұрын
I have a question. Since CaCO3 is water insoluble and sugar is, couldn't you just have crushed it and let the sugar dissolve leaving the CaCO3 just drop to the bottom? I'm no chemist so I'm asking out of curiosity. Thanks.
@shrikesavadithya6683 8 жыл бұрын
so the high yield is due to the fact that there is still some water and other impurities .also what kind of other heat source would you recommend . that is easy to use and store more TUMS at one time so we can prepare big batches . also what is TUMS ?
@joshl1350 8 жыл бұрын
Tums is a brand of antacid
@FlyinZX10R Жыл бұрын
Will calcium acetate gel gasoline or it it only alcohol?
@donm1547 8 ай бұрын
Where did the extra weight come from after drying the solution
@olivierpare-labrosse7814 8 жыл бұрын
Question that might be stupid... Couldn't one dissolve most of what you burnt in hot water?
@douro20 8 жыл бұрын
Isn't acetic acid the only carboxylic acid that is a liquid at room temperature?
@angelcooch3379 3 жыл бұрын
whats wrong with calcium acetate that has sugar in it would that not burn better
@DrDeFord 6 жыл бұрын
So, you burn off the sucrose-- can't it be separated by dissolving in water and filtering? Sugars are quite soluble, and I didn't think calcium carbonate was particularly (limestone notwithstanding).
@declanmercer2587 6 жыл бұрын
Steven DeFord its not just sugar in tums there are binders in there too with most often turn into a stick glue like substance when wet
@someguy6573 6 жыл бұрын
Why didnt you just dissolve the sugar into water, and filter out the calcium carbonate?
@taben9jake 3 жыл бұрын
"Every day is like a Tums festival"
@lassassindu5071 5 жыл бұрын
4:17 If you used a hotter heat source, wouldn't you produce lime (Ca0) ?
@stormtorch 5 жыл бұрын
CaO also reacts with vinegar to form calcium acetate.
@Algorhythm027 8 жыл бұрын
what stops the CaCO3 decomposing while you blast it with a torch?
@MrCommanderPyro 8 жыл бұрын
Well quite a lot of the calcium carbonate does decompose, but it doesn't change the outcome of the reaction with the acetic acid. You get calcium acetate with both CaCO3 and CaO.
@NileRed 8 жыл бұрын
+MrCommanderPyro Crap another thing that I forgot to mention!
@TheKnaeckebrot 8 жыл бұрын
+Algorhythm its just a calcium-source, so it doesnt really matter in which form it comes :D
@rich1051414 8 жыл бұрын
+Algorhythm Quicklime can be mixed with vinegar to get calcuim acetate as well, so who cares :)
@joeysavel4224 7 жыл бұрын
Algorhythm it's not hot enough to separate the calcium from the carbon and oxygen
@rutvikpatel5436 8 жыл бұрын
can you give me some information about nurd rage's air sensitive rexn video
@NileRed 8 жыл бұрын
+Rutvik Patel which is this? Ill have to check it out
@deliamaria7489 8 жыл бұрын
Does sodium carbonate, citral and d-limonel affect the reaction? (cause of the source)
@NileRed 8 жыл бұрын
+tatiana popescu You mean if you wanted to react it without burning the tums?
@nickhetzer2744 8 жыл бұрын
how much 25% vinegar i need
@robertlittlejohn8666 6 жыл бұрын
if the impurities are only sugar, why don't you just mix with water, dissolve the sugar, and filter the CaCO3? Re the weighing, if some of the CaCO3 was converted to CaO by the heating, then that will mess up your calculations.
@zanpekosak2383 7 жыл бұрын
Please make some essential oils from mint or eaukaliptus.
@parkerb5053 8 жыл бұрын
If i use 6% vinegar, does that mean I need 2,520 ml? Or could I still use 1800 ml?
@NileRed 8 жыл бұрын
+aruther01 youd need to use more to account for the reduced concentration.
@NileRed 8 жыл бұрын
+aruther01 youd need to use more to account for the reduced concentration.
@vance7354 7 ай бұрын
I am Hoping that you or one of your other subs can answer a question for me. I am looking to make a home made Buffering solution for indoor gardening, Basically ill be making a Cal Mag solution. I would like to know how to make Calcium Acetate from Garden Lime and 5% Distilled white Vinegar, Any Ideas How much Of each Lime and Vinegar ?
@EBenderTheRobot 8 жыл бұрын
What about dollar store chalk kids use to draw on sidewalks? Would that be a fair source of calcium carbonate?
@arvindabharat8862 8 жыл бұрын
What if I use a mortar and pistol to grind the tums to dust at the start with out the hammer , will that suffice and can I thus follow the same procedure?????
@NileRed 8 жыл бұрын
+arvinda bharat Yeah that would probably work better too
@arvindabharat8862 8 жыл бұрын
Thx, can't wait to try !!👍👍👍👍
@krisztianszirtes5414 8 жыл бұрын
I have a very different explanation on what that cloudiness was from yours. You used the calcium carbonate in excess which you previously heated. That means there could have been some calcium OXIDE in the mixture and when you used this mixture in excess, the calcium oxide just made some hydroxide, which that after stirring, created the original calcium carbonate after absorbing CO2 from the air. I had a lot of trouble with this once before when I did stuff with calcium hydroxide and then I tried to wash the containers :D
@rich1051414 8 жыл бұрын
+Krisztián Szirtes Yes, the cooking of the calcium carbonate would have decomposed much of the carbonate into oxide, which means he had a lot of quicklime after cooking his tums. Regardless, vinegar added to quicklime will still result in calcium acetate, so it doesn't really matter.
@krisztianszirtes5414 8 жыл бұрын
+Richard Smith But he said he used the lime in excess, so the vinegar is the one that doesn't matter in this case :)
@jasonsmith4591 2 жыл бұрын
At about 8 minutes was the liter beaker broken? 😯
@cobalt7530 6 жыл бұрын
I think it is easier to just go to a pet store and buy farm animal calcium (I don't think that this is its name in english, but I'm not from an english-speaking country). I got it as a 2 kg bag of 99% CaCO3 powder for about 0.5$.
@elizabethmiller8024 3 жыл бұрын
Lol my mom looked at meh screen and asked what are u watching and I said Science!
@Jessica_Starr Жыл бұрын
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@spookywizard4980 5 жыл бұрын
You could have just dissolved the sugar in water and filtered off the CaCO3...and burn it afterwards much more quickly if necessary
@mateipopescu8207 8 жыл бұрын
Can i use chalk? It's almost pure CaCO3 and it's pretty easy for me to get.
@googleeatsdicks 8 жыл бұрын
+Matei Popescu Modern chalk is made of magnesium oxide or calcium sulfate. You have to test it. If the chalk produces foam when mixed with acid it is CaCO3.
@mateipopescu8207 8 жыл бұрын
+Anticonny Thanks a lot! As another question, if it is made from magnesium oxide or calcium sulfate, is there any way to identify the compounds ?
@googleeatsdicks 8 жыл бұрын
Matei Popescu Magnesium oxide should dissolve in acids or ammonia without foaming, unless it once was heated above 1000°C - 1500°C then it will not react anymore. Calcium sulfate is harder to identify at home. It decomposes at about 800°C to calcium oxide and sulfur trioxide. You can heat it with a blowtorch and maybe you smell the pungent odor of the sulfur trioxide. I haven't tested it myself.
@akakak8006 8 жыл бұрын
can you tell how to make aderall ?
@thomastruant8837 4 жыл бұрын
You mix methamphetamine dextroamphetamine and 2 others idk just avoid that shit
@Ryrytheguyguy 3 жыл бұрын
Just keep blasting it with the torch
@juliantozer8799 5 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t you just use chalk powder?
@BroversXproductions 2 жыл бұрын
A nice tums fire 😆
@PyroRob69 5 жыл бұрын
Rather than using Tums, why didn't you use chalkboard chalk?
@Tasitel Жыл бұрын
Did smoke smelled minty?
@avion3033 8 жыл бұрын
Whoa nile, you got a new mic? :)
@NileRed 8 жыл бұрын
+PrecisionKobra i got one a while ago!
@avion3033 8 жыл бұрын
Nile Red oops. Well, usually i wait a while then binge watch your videos because they are super good! Also, you should look up "nighthawkinlight". He is currently doing a alkaline metal project, maybe you can give him advice! :D
@enesilvian4640 8 жыл бұрын
I think that is a lot more cheaper to make it from regular white chalk...
@FoxDog1080 2 жыл бұрын
What gives tums their smell I assume they taste the same
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