Yeah Nina turned into chimera ant

Yeah, i'm still crying for hxh and now this wth

Hxh and Fullmetal the bests Shounens

@@ziz728 I think Naruto, whether you like it or not, is considered to be the most popular shonen there is. Fullmetal fell off super hard. hxh maybe up there, but naruto is definitely higher up for now. One piece is right behind it. Just based off numbers alone, that is.

@@DevilWearsAdidasOne piece absolutely beats Naruto popularity wise. It is the most popular manga to ever be written and the second best selling comic ever made, beaten out only by superman

Since the manga had a panel where Nina and Alexander went to heaven and the other way for Shou, it's a good thing to imagine this :)

Shou Tucker is the only one in the entire series to go to Hell instead of Heaven

Also when Scar kills the chimera, you can see his trace of death stuck on the wall.

Yeah I was 10yrs old when I watched it back then. Shit was not fun 💀

Lol

Damn, didnt know he got actual hate for the role, that shits sad. I loved him as Stein in Soul Eater, he carried that show for me.

I praise the actor for performing the role so well for us to despise Tucker

Isn’t it brooks VA too? At least he’s the jolliest mf on that

Not really an opinion, Scar himself said it to Ed later when they faced each other after their bodies were found, but ye its a fucked up scenario for sure

Which is why I think Shou’s fate in 03 was a much more fitting punishment for him then what happened in either the Manga or Brotherhood. He became what he turned his daughter into; a Chimera. He ruined his daughter’s life. So now his life is permanently ruined as well. An equivalent exchanged if you will.

True I mean he even says later on that if he had spared Nina she would have suffered a fate worse than death living in a military research facility as a lab rat

If I'd known then what I knew by the end of the series, I would have advocated turning Shou into a Philosopher's Stone and using him to restore Nina and Alexander.

Lmao, I think all of us were thinking the same thing

😂😂

yeah no unnecessary cuts

Yeah the 2003 version handles this a lot, lot better. You can really feel the pain.

Yeah, 2003 version made it very unexpected. Tucker had a bit more background, portraying him as a nice dude at ep 6 and then beginning ep 7 with him being genuinely worried about the test and her daughter (almost like not wanting to do what he later did). In 2003, Edward had doubts when sneaked into Tucker's house and seemed horrified when he saw the chimera. In Brotherhood, both brothers are amazed and excited about the chimera 'til it calls Ed "brother".

Its the biting that really makes the scene better for me, the scene still hits hard regardless of the time spent with them, but showing her still actively trying to defend her father fucking destroyed me.

@@allhandsondik7803 Yep, the original also painted Tucker to be a nice guy, they've tried to hide it so Nina's transformation was very unexpected to me while in FMAB Tucker was kinda of an a**hole you kinda already know that he's done something really bad.

facts

Truly the 2003 scene is better and then the ending plays with Nina and Alexander. Heartbroken.

2003 version wins, hands down.

while i didn't read the manga, i know about the context of it. I think that the reason cause this guy is so scary and absolutely spiteful is cause it's not a horrible monster literally, but it's one in the body of a normal human, which could be EVERYONE. it's so...real that it's frightening.

To be fair FMAB portrayed Tucker to be somewhat of an a**hole it's a bit easy to figure out, while in the original 2003 adaptation they've tried to hide it.

The difference is that they did not involve two innocents in their sin. They committed the Taboo together, and involved nobody but themselves. Shou victimized his own daughter and dog, after already doing so to his wife with another creature. The severity and intentions are entirely different, just as the victims are.

@@Sassaparilla Eh, I'd say pulling your mother's innocent soul back from the dead to an existence of agony, for however long she lived, is pretty bad. Intentions are important, but less so than the outcome and the act itself.

@@maybenaught they didn't pull their mother's soul back though. ALPHONSE was shoved into the body briefly, not their mother. There was an entire plot point about how the bodies were NOT the people they were trying to bring back, just husks. A vague shape similar to what they were looking for. The body was never their mom. It is closer to that of the artificial men monstrosities we see in the final arc.

@@Sassaparilla Ah, ok. I hadn't realized it was like that...and also forgotten. So then I'll say that I think that it would have been appropriately hardcore for them to have put her soul into an incomplete and doomed body, if it were the case. Like basically if they had killed her with their hubris as well.

@@maybenaught it would honestly be dumb though. If you can bring them back from the dead at all, that means with enough human sacrifices, you could bring them back in a proper vessel. I mean, the Dwarf in the Flask is fully manmade life, and can live as long as it has a vessel to house it. The point is that you can't bring a soul back from the dead. Alphonse didn't really die, he was payment, that's why his soul could be put in the armor, as he didn't die, he was more in a state of limbo if anything. But the actually dead people are DEAD. Death is final here. There's no coming back, you live your life, and then it is over. That's the point. Their desires were utterly pointless. What they wanted could never be done, so everything that happened to them, was meaningless. It brought them nothing but pain and shame. That by itself, is a cold lesson to take.

This episode is really as bad as the show gets. I recommend you watch the rest because its a masterpiece

@@Alpha-bn6cjwhat show is it?

@@wittevasseline4727 Fullmetal Alchemist.