I think it’s fine, 15s is enough for us to put in our strongest attacks, and 20s is just nice enough for any other strong attacks that didn’t make the cut. Any longer would kinda make the point of a burst window moot imo, especially when you run out of big hitting attacks and resort to 1-2-3 combo (that’s us). You have any issues with NIN’s rotation?

Ur crazy, nin already has the best pt buff and u want them to have even longer? Lol

I think someone in the balance can give you a better answer, but let me just write what I remember. 1) Since Kunai lasts a shorter duration, we want to fit our highest potency actions within the Kunai window, which means sacrificing relatively lower potency actions like phantom 2) phantom does lower damage than the tooltip suggests, as phantom is considered a pet action and pet actions do less damage than actually stated 3) that said, phantom is still one of the higher potency actions we have, so we want to put it in our mug window if we can since our mug window is within other jobs’ raidbuffs as well. 4) but if you ever need to disengage, it’s better to just use your phantom over Raiton, and especially over the Kunai throw Hope this helps!

Ninja is actually one of the easiest melees to play once you get used to the burst window. Don’t be scared to start, since Ninja’s burst window will almost always be the same. Do it enough times and your muscle memory will develop!

Legit the second easiest meele.

Thats impossible cuz viper and reaper exists

​@breakthecode4634 lol, no. No way Ninja is easier than Reaper, Viper, Samurai, or Dragoon. Outside of the burst window is simple, but you still have several things to manage. Legit only Monk is harder.

@StriderZessei reaper is the easiest, That's why I said ninja is the second easiest. Also people are complaining about the business of viper so I put it in third.

Yep totally undestand. That’s why my latest videos have the action timeline plugin that shows the button sequences. But at the end of the day, what I’m doing is to showcase how the rotation that was designed by the balance mentors is supposed to be performed. These videos are kinda aimed towards players who are familiar with the kit and just need to check on how certain parts of the rotation is executed (ie. delaying Mug by 1 GCD in the 2min window). I linked the appropriate guides for each video so you can watch along and see what I’m pressing at which time. If you’re a beginner, you can consider subscribing because I will be creating beginner guides eventually!

That’s the AOE Ninki Spender. We don’t use it in single target fights, which is primarily what this video is showcasing for.

It doesn’t matter if you use Zesho with or without Meisui, the potency you gain is a flat value. What matters is to use use both your Meisui-enhanced Bhava/Zesho in your burst window. And that should never be an issue unless you start drifting your cooldowns.

No, don't try to either you will overcap

Reaper and Ninja in Endwalker! Not too sure which if I’ll main either of them this expansion, but these are still my comfort picks.

@@omupenguin Reaper seems really strong at the moment. Samurai is mine. Melee seem to be in a good spot in general!

Melees have always been eating good, just a shame that casters and ranged keep having DPS balancing issues :(

Hm what do you mean? Raiju ready is stackable yes, but you cannot use any other GCDs but Raiju, otherwise you lose all your stacks.

@@omupenguin been a while since i played, so i forgot some stuff about raijuu 😅 i assumed gcd no longer cancel raijuu ready since you used mudra/ninjutsu, but it seems i just forgot a lot of stuff about NIN lol

Mudras never cancelled Raijus, otherwise we can’t even stack it in the first place! It’s just that your regular 1-2-3 GCDs will cancel Raijus, so be careful! Or just be like viper and press glowy button :P

I don't know what you mean, Ninja always had very little to do outside of burst window

I think this playstyle is what makes the class unique... it's a true burst damage class, whereas the rest of the classes are built to do consistent damage/2 min bursts.

i miss the part where the mudras are ogcd xdd

@@ek9750 The problem was that we brought this issue up back in Shadowbringers and instead of fixing the issue, they doubled-down on OGCDs and stuffing the burst window instead of giving ninja more to do during the downtime. Remember, trick attack used to be the ONLY damage increase ability, not mug.

@@zanagi Did you read the post? Shadowbringer Ninja was good, the problem was they didn't fill in the empty spaces and instead just made the burst window more busy. But that's assuming you even did read the post...

We have a ton of buttons to press though, especially when you compare ninja to the new jobs like Picto and Viper.

@omupenguin only during the 2 min window. Otherwise it's basically 5 buttons.

As of now, it’s really only Reaper, Samurai and Viper that has a “fill meter and spend meter” type of gameplay, though I think Samurai and Viper have more to do outside of burst windows so they fill quite different. Monk, Dragoon and Ninja are more CD-based jobs, where you just want to press your big skills off cooldown (I’m sure monk has more to it but I haven’t learnt it yet). Personally I think the melees (all DPS actually) feel very distinct in one another. Even though every job wants to do their big damage at the same time, how they go about preparing it and executing it is different, even among melees. But honestly this is more of a subjective matter. My opinion is that they all feel different in their own way, so if you think healers are just more enjoyable then go for it!

@@omupenguin Interesting, I feel the opposite in regards to DPS, every single one felt the same to me, I imagine optimizing and whatnot makes every job different but I'm not up there, to each their own for sure. Thanks for the answer.