Finally... A Wargame Worth Painting

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0:00 Intro
1:10 What Game Is Worth It?
2:31 What Chapter Fits Best?
4:32 What to Spend the Most Time On
6:37 The Key to Painting Details
11:24 Best Looking Fast Metallics
12:27 Stupid Guns
14:34 Contrast Paint Sucks for Cloaks
15:25 Final Reveal and Thoughts

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@Ninjon 10 ай бұрын

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@philthymofo 10 ай бұрын

6 members to the Justian Kill Team with Captain OR Sergeant as Leader

@maverickman6486 10 ай бұрын

Nice application. The miniatures look great. But they still look a bit orange or orange red compared to the art. Maybe a very thinned red glaze to bring it into red a bit more?

@poggestfrog 10 ай бұрын

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@bagel_guy9495 10 ай бұрын

Glass half dead has a good video on kill team justian

@CalAndAly 10 ай бұрын

I use Milanote pro for work and warhammer projects! Such a killer fitting sponsor man!

@mattbaxter688 10 ай бұрын

I love kill team, being able to finish a project in a reasonable time and try new things is a big win

@johncleary6599 10 ай бұрын

Over time I think you've really had a distinctive style of your own emerge, John. The way your miniatures look is recognizable compared to other creators online. I'm a big fan of the look you've developed and I think this video is a great example. Thanks for always hyping me up to keep hobbying!

@cine6982 10 ай бұрын

His style really makes everything look like its standing before a sunset and the cool orange light is reflecting back

@sackofpeas2470 10 ай бұрын

Someone else may've mentioned it already, but the Blood Ravens were actually created by Relic (the creators of Dawn of War) specifically for the game. After Dawn of War's success, GW brought them into the canon and expanded on their backstory, with it being heavily implied that they could be formed from Thousand Son's geneseed as they have a higher than average number of psykers in their ranks.

@CMTechnica 8 ай бұрын

One of the recent Horus Heresy books confirms they’re Imperial Fist successors, *so long as the lineage of that group of marines is indeed the future Blood Ravens*, because there’s no confirmation as to what founding they were part of.

@manirea 5 ай бұрын

funny....their novels are actually not canon as far as my understanding goes

@KingofCanada22 3 ай бұрын

@@manireathey are a cannon chapter, after Dawn of War GW officially added them to the world. However originally they were made by relic so that they could do whatever they pleased with the chapter without potentially contradicting official lore had.

@ThatGUYthe2nd 2 ай бұрын

They actually existed before the games, the Uriel Ventris book Dead Sky Black Sun by Graham McNeil which came out at the same time as the DoW games, had a Blood Raven in it which had the same lore that GW would later add for their official index. The only difference is that the Chapter symbol of the Blood Raven in that book is actually just a Raven's head rather than the full bird and the blood drop, showing that this character's creation pre-dated their DoW release.

@kookieslayer 10 ай бұрын

All that's missing are some nice decals ^^ Really good looking result for 3 days of work!

@Sup3rH4ns 10 ай бұрын

When it comes to hobby, kill team is right in my sweet spot. I can paint a squad of interesting minis, feel like I'm working towards something, play a fun game and then move on to something with a completely different flavour and can tackle it in a completely different style

@supercowopp 10 ай бұрын

100%

@pointandshootvideo 10 ай бұрын

They look great! Thanks for taking the time to paint them. I'm happy for you that you enjoy painting them.

@EvenMoreDamage 10 ай бұрын

Good for you Ninjon, glad to see you excited to paint a squad. For me, the biggest motivation to "paint another one" is painting minis for my D&D games. Cool looking models add so much fun for my players and that keeps me going in terms of painting.

@HandsWithLegs 10 ай бұрын

Love the video, models look great as usual! Kill team is a great game, and the scene in Minnesota (particularly the twin cities) is really strong and vibrant

@MentoliptusBanko 10 ай бұрын

Wow, they look amazing! That light source really works. Btw, Kill Team is a great game, I hope you enjoy it.

@philipposziakas5058 10 ай бұрын

It's been an absolute pleasure watching your painting journey over the last few years! These minies look absolutely insane! Keep it up! 🔥

@epone3488 10 ай бұрын

Regarding reducing paint on the brush: I use a small artist watercolour pad for my "wipe of" which produces really consistent results which is great. The real benifit is it takes off both pigment and water at the same rate rather then favoring the water which occurs with paper toweling.

@KrullMaestaren 10 ай бұрын

Good idea and I wonder what would happen if I used a Wettex dish rag... 🤔

@epone3488 10 ай бұрын

@@KrullMaestaren the wettex is complicated I sued to use one back in the day. if its 'moist' then you put water back into the brush if its dry if takes water out its effect on the pigment is variable. A thin wet sponge pad works batter imo ymmv try em out and see what you think. the water colour pad is were I have settled over time but I do think a thin sponge pad shows promise.

@SuperRiitz 10 ай бұрын

Your Videos get better and better Jon, it is so much fun watching you evolve ✌🏻

@lostnfound1086 10 ай бұрын

+1 For Michigan Toy Soldier. I visited while on vacation this summer. Amazing hobby store! Great staff and fully stocked!

@MarcinEstkowski 10 ай бұрын

You're like the god of marketing! Stepped from "my airbrush had a little clog, and now I got paint all over my desk" to "if you want to buy any tools I use, just use my link". Love it!

@Ninjon 10 ай бұрын

You too can spray paint all over your desk!

@MarcinEstkowski 10 ай бұрын

Yes sir! Yes I can!

@Magma-vu5vo 3 ай бұрын

@Ninjon bro don't you know? Tamiya in Japan

@Magma-vu5vo 3 ай бұрын

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@athrunzala-gt3dq 3 ай бұрын

@@NinjonDon't you know? Japanese in tamiya

@markchristy9704 10 ай бұрын

Those look great. I really liked the way the dark red and purple served so well for shadows on the models. That's a very handy technique.

@joshuwaaagh 10 ай бұрын

Fantastic paint job as always. Welcome to the Kill Team community, hope you'll have an amazing time playing!

@BrendanPace 10 ай бұрын

You get 6 of the 7 models. I'd recommend dropping the heavy Intercessor for your first few games. He'll be a bit more challenging to run for a newer guy, he is slow (id say too slow) and has heavy so he is more of a piece to be set up for use in turn 2/3.

@Mrcowboyhunter 10 ай бұрын

I play kommandoes and veteran guardsman but I will keep this info in mind when I but the space marine heroes

@BrendanPace 10 ай бұрын

@Mrcowboyhunter you might need to proxy hard for this team lol. We didn't even get them here in Canada.

@hydra1plprivate942 10 ай бұрын

Proxy hard? Those are standard marines with fancy names

@hydra1plprivate942 10 ай бұрын

And i wouldnt just discard the heavy weapons man, as soon as rules drop he will get a piece of equipment that will make him more mobile, turning him into a complete beast

@BrendanPace 10 ай бұрын

@hydra1plprivate942 i was being a tad dramatic but by hard I was referring to how if someone doesn't have a tone of marines already there's a fair bit of pulling from a few kits. But yeah if someone has an army or a bunch of kits to begin with it's dead easy.

@Vpkoivisto 10 ай бұрын

Very nice results! I really like the yellow highlights on the armor and have to remember to use that in my artings, as well.

@robyounce644 10 ай бұрын

Wow they came out great, Love the look of the models!!!

@cdwizzerd 10 ай бұрын

KT really is where its at. Its what got me back into the hobby, and my 40f friends are all loving it, some more than 10th even. awesome sons of magnus too

@johnr9488 10 ай бұрын

Love the red of the armor! I’m about to paint a kill team who will be mainly red so your pointers were really useful. A couple of tips before you play: 1. You can take 6 of the 7 models. You’ll pretty much want to decide between the Heavy Intercessor and the basic Intercessor that didn’t have the grenade. 2. The Heavy Bolter for the Heavy Intercessor is listed is having 4 attack dice while on the Japanese cards they have 5, so people have been playing with 5 dice since it’s thought the 4 dice was a typo. 3. The English cards have no listed tac op archetypes, but the Japanese have seek and destroy and security, so people have been using those. 4. Make sure you read the rules about cover and obscurity really thoroughly. It isn’t hard once you understand how it works, but GW worded those topics really poorly.

@kingeightytwo 10 ай бұрын

These look incredible. Its really cool to hear you talk about gaming. Have fun!

@bargeryfamily 10 ай бұрын

Kill team is cool, a really interesting game. Painting figures to play with is exactly what drives me. Enjoy the game!

@jackmighty6889 10 ай бұрын

Let's gooooo, I'd love to see you get more into the skirmish game scene. The team looks great!

@benjaminnewman3837 6 ай бұрын

2:17 All these awesome paint jobs, and I'm in awe that you got the drill bit centered on the muzzle.

@mauvrion_fries 10 ай бұрын

The purple glazed into the cream shoulder pads looks so good. I'm currently working on an arbites (palanite) killteam using purple as the midtone building to a pale yellow highlight and it's one of my favorite combos.

@TheLegoman6969 10 ай бұрын

Edge highlighting is my Achilles heel. I’ve watched so many videos and I just can’t work out how your paint comes off your brush so consistently down the whole stroke, and how you can do multiple strokes with the same load of brush and still have consistent paint coming off. Must be wizardry or atleast a pact with some sort of dark entity. Love your videos man.

@AbadonBIack 5 ай бұрын

It's paint consistency. If it's not thin enough, it'll behave how you describe, where you run/dry out really quickly. If it's too thin, you lose control of the paint and it makes your edge highlights messy. I can't consistently get the right consistency every time, since it can vary by brand and even paint color, but when you do you'll know it because it feels like it should. You don't realize it, but until you can consistently get your paints thinned properly, you're fighting an uphill battle. Once you have control, you'll find techniques are more doable.

@sweatilaa5325 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, Blood Raves! Let’s go! Now they even got a Ninjon video to add to their collection of chapter relics.

@davidstromberg1628 10 ай бұрын

Nice work! Love seeing the progress of something you what to use ❤🎉

@joaamike1986 9 ай бұрын

They look awesome. Very nice to see you paint for a (skirmish) game. Really looking forward to seeing you paint a Warcry warband! 😊🙏🤞

@RatBastardDan 8 ай бұрын

Hey, I go to Michigan Toy Soldier all the time now. They are a solid shop with so much in stock and I'm glad that you're giving them a boost.

@makoajohnson2341 10 ай бұрын

John at 13:28 "i'm gonna paint the knee as a nipple" XD

@Grendel400 9 ай бұрын

This is a great video, thanks for showing your tricks of the trade. Keep it up ang all the best to you!

@Daydam 10 ай бұрын

This video came out just in time, I got the Warhammer Underworlds starter set just yesterday and can't wait to build it. I've painted over 130 minis so far, and never used a single one of them (I play D&D online since the pandemic and haven't finished my wargaming board yet to play wargames), so I'm extremely excited to have a full box with the board, dice, cards, and more minis to paint. Now all I need is to get someone over to play with lol

@Catjacked 10 ай бұрын

Over the summer, me and my friend got a killteam box as our first venture into tabletop gaming. It was a wonderful introduction to the hobby! Not too daunting to paint, and not too daunting to play.

@maulcrusader7106 10 ай бұрын

Those came out great! Thanks for the inspiration to paint!

@4hedgesfamily 10 ай бұрын

Gads those are beautiful. I plan on starting a Votann army soon, so I really enjoyed seeing how you did the red. Thank you!

@harryhamilton298 10 ай бұрын

Man, I really like the orangish highlights - it suggests the team is in an environment where the light is in a different spectrum. Great job, and I love it every time you say you are painting for self satisfaction rather than speed painting.

@TheMiniJunkie 10 ай бұрын

Great work - I actually painted a Blood Raven army years ago. Many years. I might have missed it in the video but I noticed the ribbed undersuit parts (like in the elbow joints) aren’t painted differently. However: no big deal. I also really like that basing look.

@boardgamewoodsman8378 10 ай бұрын

First Warhammer army/space marine army painting video that actually makes me want to play Warhammer. Those models look amazing!

@havelock1982 10 ай бұрын

Glad to see you joining up Kill Team! Have fun! I really enjoyed your video.

@zouloslecoolos 10 ай бұрын

When you said black and red marines, I thought of Flesh Tearers 😂

@Perudo 10 ай бұрын

Love the Blood Ravens, one of my favorite loyalist chapters. Space Wolfs taking the top spot.

@_easyconcept 9 ай бұрын

Furry

@graemehall6767 10 ай бұрын

loving that Jon is watching one of Scott's videos while he builds the minis

@MichaelTobin-qk4tx 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for recommending the wowstick! I bought one after watching your video, and I'm loving this thing! It's so easy to use, and the bits that come with it are perfect for our hobby.

@tochkaks 10 ай бұрын

Such satisfying color scheme and highlights, awesome!

@Ghoul_Ranger 10 ай бұрын

Nice! Been missing videos like this, great job!

@andeejaym 10 ай бұрын

Great to see you getting into Kill Team, it’s both a great size to play and hobby at 🤘looking forward to more KT content!

@noops9220 10 ай бұрын

I find having a game gives the models a purpose, and painting for this purpose feels more special than just painting for paintings sake

@MythicProps 10 ай бұрын

These are awesome! I love the Blood Ravens colours, they've always been a chapter I've considered painting. At the end of the video, I was thinking "But Jon, where is the sweet ass Blood Ravens iconography on their shoulders?" and then I remembered they don't make transfers for them, and doing that icon by hand seven times would suck.

@thomasrevidon693 10 ай бұрын

I’ve started painting mine recently, and got some amazing blood ravens transfer from the mighty brush, it’s really worth it

@shawncook8672 10 ай бұрын

From the thumbnail, I thought you were painting old school Blood Angels...

@MrFiremagnet 10 ай бұрын

There's a stylized and simplified version of their logo in old Index Astartes. This logo can be seen in DoW2 games in some cutscenes, namely the final cutscene of DoW2 original campaign. It's not that hard to paint, I've painted a lot of them and learned to paint them really fast.

@mawgstar8092 7 ай бұрын

'Slay the Gray' - that is an inspiring quote - love it 🙂

@Milkymalk 9 ай бұрын

"I'm giving myself three full days to paint these" - Meanwhile it takes me almost three weeks to batch paint a unit of Termagants.

@virginiacritchfield1483 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Jon, really needed this vid!

@Camulation777 10 ай бұрын

really loved this my man, that red is so poppy, absolutely fantastic

@HofstaA51 10 ай бұрын

Not sure if this is helpful, but the primer color you mixed up is really damn close to Vallejo Hull Red, which you can get as a primer color. I prefer using this rather than black primer when I want to keep more warmth in the shadows of my models.

@SatyricSaint1999 10 ай бұрын

Great looking paint job as always.

@jimmymarcusmunk4848 10 ай бұрын

What a great looking team! Good luck with Kill Team, it's an amazing game.

@DnBGolf 7 ай бұрын

I always love the outtakes at the end

@NunnanAgda 10 ай бұрын

fabulous stuff, great job!

@thorikstoneshield3716 10 ай бұрын

Hi Jon, wonderful job and seems like you really enjoied it, I'm really amazed by your job thank you

@aberodriguez4149 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing we enjoy painting when the end goal is for Battle, we must look our best on the field.

@tompayne4945 10 ай бұрын

Stunning work Jon.

@mateusz4698 3 ай бұрын

Fantastic paint job! Love the red armor, the way you highlight with orange and the brown and skin details. The only thing that comes to my mind is maybe the Blood Ravens should have a little bit darker red than the Blood Angels. I always thought (lore-wise) that their armor was akin to that of the World Bearers. But then again, this is a random thought because I love what you did with those guys!

@SockimusPrime 10 ай бұрын

Welcome to Kill Team! I've been chipping away at getting an actual Sisters army put together for probably 2 years now (and the recent points nerf knocked me down to around 1000 pts if I field everything). In the meantime, though, Kill Team is the game I play to keep my hobby motivation up. Something that reminds me that, yes, I can in fact put these things on the table.

@BlaiseGD3 10 ай бұрын

Great vid!!! Thanks!!!

@t-boxbeirdogames4642 7 ай бұрын

Great paintjob, great technique and great tips, as always. Great job, hope the awesome paintjob ensured your victory! :)

@miguelsimarrogonzalez2128 10 ай бұрын

Love this kind of video, only thing I'd like to see is a serviceable fast NMM to accompany this smart-fast style. I think what you just did with metallics can be done with well chosen greys and ochres, and would look amazing

@ThomasGallinari 10 ай бұрын

They look great!

@MrUzzynator 10 ай бұрын

Love Kill Team. Small model count, price and time needed. Simple easy to pick up, hard to master rules. Ive played it with so many new players. Better than full fat W40K imho.

@yostaustin 10 ай бұрын

Great video! I will get more if my squad of marines completed. Thanks for some great ideas ! The guns have so many edges I wanted to rip my eyeballs out haha.

@nickkincaid 10 ай бұрын

If anyone is like me & curious about the orange vs pink highlights, it stems from mixing the color with warm (yellow) or cool (white-blue) light & paint. A lot of photographers & painters love warm lighting as it adds depth

@mrmooney25 6 ай бұрын

My favorite way to paint red space marines is to bring it up to pink with the highlights and then glaze it back down to bright red with a glaze.

@ionminiatures 10 ай бұрын

I’ve mainly been painting for myself as part of self care. I’ve not been interested in playing 40K (or other Table Top War Games) until recently. I’m super excited my Ravaged Star has arrived (the thing that started it all) and looking forward to the TT War game campaign starting in Nov.

@spcwolf 10 ай бұрын

Love that you painted these and might be getting into kill team.

@thetattoodmini 10 ай бұрын

currently waiting on some decorative base toppers to show up so i can start working on my Kroot kinband... can't wait to give them a try in Killteam

@vc7526 10 ай бұрын

really nice painting. Especially, I like the face of the captain

@danielkearney1815 9 ай бұрын

They're bloody good Jon, nice one!

@shadowstep420 10 ай бұрын

Jon thats awesome bro didnt know you was getting into kt happy for my guy. Keep up the killer paint jobs man. Would love to see more kt paint videos if you would. Have a good one brotha.

@cheesybarbarian2867 10 ай бұрын

Amazing work as always!

@TheVortexPrime 10 ай бұрын

Looks epic! Great job!

@slyer0 10 ай бұрын

these look great I wish they were sold here in the netherlands. I do wanna paint them and add them to my blood raven army as well. they are looking super neat and loving how you did them.

@darthmuadib7237 7 ай бұрын

I truly hate how easy you make it all look. Awesome work, Sir.

@szabozoltan3898 10 ай бұрын

This video was great! Made me want to finish my warcry warband! Hope you’ll make a warcry warband video aswell!

@redneckrides356 9 ай бұрын

i think just watching john paint has helped me improve because i just did nmm for the first time

@mau48310 10 ай бұрын

This was fun, honestly painting some ravenguard myself so I took the liberty of just using exaggerated lighting with purple highlights and blue undertones , and some uv glow effects since my place has a gallilion uv lamps lol. I started messy to clean up but seeing what u did here I might try your coloring here of the accessories so they belong to the scene and its lighting better . Ty sir

@alreadyfrank 6 ай бұрын

Honestly these are some of the best looking marines I have ever seen

@vinnygarcia3043 6 ай бұрын

Honestly, your table top ready is unbelievable

@PinchDaddyDog 10 ай бұрын

Love your fooking painting, also makes me very envious, you barsteward!!!

@nestadious 10 ай бұрын

Hope you enjoy kill team! Very fun game with minimum work that needs to be done to play a game. And it doesnt cost 500$ + however long it takes to paint up a new army.

@ChazCharlie1 9 ай бұрын

The leader's left arm flexible undersuit at the elbow joint is still red. Traditionally, it is black, some people might think you have forgotten to paint it.

@sirbobulous 10 ай бұрын

I've been adapting your approach from things like your Smash Chop video and your spraying shadow colours and just...not painting everything to leave the shadow colours visible on some objects and it's been super helpful for getting higher quality speed paints. Just priming a shadow colour all over and then using a zenithal of a base layer, then holding the model oriented so you're only looking at it from above and only painting from that angle...cuts the surface area of the model down by about 1/3rd so saves time, no painting in shadows so really only painting on the highlight layers and the odd base layer for differently coloured objects. Very helpful. Works well for models with one or two dominant colours.

@omgitsbees 10 ай бұрын

what I appreciate about this video is your experience on not half-assing a model near the end of painting it. I have a big time problem with doing that.

@reuterss306 10 ай бұрын

And here I am...having to paint 132 minis. 7 would be the dream... :D

@Dro250 10 ай бұрын

I love how your casual process looks this good. Is there any advice for starting to paint like this to build volume? I try these techniques but always mess them up

@rexhurley4380 10 ай бұрын

Nice work bro. To be honest I wasnt expecting them to pop that much but yup one nice coherent oomf look, well done keep up the content please.

@alwoodsmodellingmayhem 10 ай бұрын

"So many damn edges it makes me want to dig my eyeballs out with a spoon!!"😂😂

@f5erner 10 ай бұрын

They look amazing! 👌

@woodyrobinson9628 10 ай бұрын

I agree, paint to get WAR ON THE TABLE!!! I paint & play ASOIAF miniatures game & enjoy painting all the factions & playing the game. Alway enjoy your videos!! Thank you for all the tips & encouragement.