Nintendo’s Double Localizations - American VS British English

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@todayntsnews
@todayntsnews Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised you didn’t mention Tomodachi Life. The European version had different box art, different script, different characters models, even the characters had different accents compared to the US one
@AzumarillConGafasBv
@AzumarillConGafasBv Жыл бұрын
Tomodachi Life needs its own video about localisation, there's like 10 versions of Tomodachi Life in order to adapt to the country it's releasing on, for example, there's a Chinese, Japanese, Korean, another Chinese edition, if I'm not wrong there are 2 American versions and etc
@CiromBreeze
@CiromBreeze Жыл бұрын
Tomodachi Life is a bizarre one. Was talking with a friend about it the other day, and apparently even the shop NPCs are different! We (EU) got these cool robot guys with monotone voices, but apparently the NPCs have cardboard faces in America! (And are ninjas in Japan. Kinda jealous of that one.)
@bickerysebastian
@bickerysebastian Жыл бұрын
@@CiromBreeze Correction: The original/Japanese release had the shopkeepers wear KUROKO stage masks. The "ninja mask" don't cover the shopkeepers' faces completely.
@Mimi.1001
@Mimi.1001 Жыл бұрын
As far as I know, there are even exclusive "holidays" so to speak. For German Unity day (3rd of October) the shops are decorated with German flags and balloons, which I definitely didn't expect and which no game does like ever. I assume there is similar stuff for other national holidays, even besides the obvious 4th and maybe 14th of July, which would be pretty damn cool.
@squish_39
@squish_39 Жыл бұрын
@@AzumarillConGafasBv It does have it's own video about localisation! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oJiPZq2GtbGXgas.html
@theshadowdirector
@theshadowdirector Жыл бұрын
I actually did miss a mark on a spelling test thanks to Game Boy 'Color', no joke.
@beartackle
@beartackle Жыл бұрын
When I was young, I thought "colour" was a special way to write "color," when I read it somewhere, so I used it in my writing assignment, and my teacher wrote a note that I spelled it wrong.
@Alex-zt3ht
@Alex-zt3ht Жыл бұрын
im not an english native speaker and im a bit surprised that one of the two ways to write those words is seen as wrong by teachers, i mean they are both right aren’t they? does it work like this for other such pairs too? like meter/metre, flavor/flavour, donut/doughnut etc?
@theshadowdirector
@theshadowdirector Жыл бұрын
@@Alex-zt3ht which version of English you're taught will vary on region. In Europe and Commonwealth countries it's British, everywhere else, ifs American.
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 Жыл бұрын
In germany, both were taught to us. Which generally makes sense, even tho we are in europe, neither version of english is "ours". However, it is so long ago that I straight up do not remember the diffrences and what belongs to where, english is just english to me.
@Jdtendo
@Jdtendo Жыл бұрын
It should also been kept in mind that many games use the same English title in all European countries, and thus the title should be easy to understand even for people with limited English knowledge. For example, "Universal Gravitation" can easily be understood as "gravitation universelle" for French speakers, "gravitación universal" for Spanish speakers, "gravitazione universale" for Italian speakers, "universelle Gravitation" for German speakers… Whereas "Topsy-Turvy" is not a well-known or recognisable word for non-English speakers.
@timelymirror7826
@timelymirror7826 Жыл бұрын
it's true that probably lots of games just use only an English title for worldwide releases
@MultiTimetravler
@MultiTimetravler Жыл бұрын
You can tell its going to be a Jon episode cause the title is never anything anybody ever asked for and I love it!
@CrimsonMoonM
@CrimsonMoonM Жыл бұрын
He isn't the content creator who gives us what we want, but the one who gives us what we didn't even know we needed.
@davebob4973
@davebob4973 Жыл бұрын
i wouldve asked for it he just made the video before i did
@dimensiondetective
@dimensiondetective Жыл бұрын
5:11 An odd thing about Paper Mario Color Splash is that there WAS a localisation change. (Minor Spoiler?) One of the “things” in the game was a washing machine. The American version has the same washing machine as Japan, a model where clothes are loaded into the top. But for Europe and Australia, the washing machine is an ENTIRELY different model where clothes are loaded into the front. That also means when you first find the machine it is lying on it’s back. So the localisers where willing to provide entirely exclusive models to different regions...but not add one letter to the games title..
@gamagama69
@gamagama69 Жыл бұрын
lmao what do both models not exsit in all of the world?
@snufkin8940
@snufkin8940 Жыл бұрын
​@@gamagama69 Brit here, I've never seen a top-loading washing machine in person
@gamagama69
@gamagama69 Жыл бұрын
@@snufkin8940 interesting
@pappoli
@pappoli Жыл бұрын
yeah nintendo is weird with colour / color
@PIKMINROCK1
@PIKMINROCK1 Жыл бұрын
I think it's a thing with trademarks and possibly branding. Likely, if they don't approved for the subtitle variation, they just unify the name across regions.
@stur5170
@stur5170 Жыл бұрын
One of my favourite ones is the character Bryne in Spirit Tracks. Over here in the UK, he's called Staven. And the reason for this didn't know until recently: "In the EU English version, he is called “Staven”, which is derived from the BR Standard Class 9F 92220 Evening Star, the last steam locomotive to be built by British Railways"
@winterwinter12
@winterwinter12 Жыл бұрын
I think Outset Village is called Aboda in the US as well
@CiromBreeze
@CiromBreeze Жыл бұрын
Huh. I was wondering why everyone called him Bryne.
@SAI-Max_D
@SAI-Max_D Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in Australia & New Zealand, we got the totally not confusing combination of having the game contents based on the US localisation paired with the UK-based instruction manual... (yes, the game card is still region-locked to work only with PAL-based DS systems)
@jackayers4955
@jackayers4955 Жыл бұрын
Is that really where the name comes from? It seems very obscure. The other train-based names are obvious - Mallard, engine, coal, etc.
@tom13king
@tom13king Жыл бұрын
Most of the bosses have different names in the UK IIRC. As a kid I always wondered why my strategy guide was lying to me about the boss names.
@TheChampionEccentric
@TheChampionEccentric Жыл бұрын
The game that blew my mind for English/English translation is Super Smash Bros. for Wii U. Among other changes like menu text, literally every single of the 500+ trophies has a different translation between regions, and I simply can't understand why they would go through that kind of effort.
@PhirePhlame
@PhirePhlame Жыл бұрын
It all started when NoE wound up accidentally letting the word "spastic" from the US version of Mario Party 8 (a relatively innocuous, if still pejorative, word in US vernacular for a clumsy or erratic person) slip into the initial print of the European version (where the same word is...loaded against the disabled, to say the least). Needless to say, from then on NoE started doing a lot more of their own localization work and a lot less of simply piggybacking off of the NoA translations.
@Bracketmeister
@Bracketmeister Жыл бұрын
@@PhirePhlame Yeah, where I am in the UK, that word is kind of considered an ableist slur so it always really catches me out when American media just throws it out like nothing. I remember when Weird Al released Word Crimes and he had no idea of the international connotations. I think since learning, he never sings that line when performing live.
@Videospiel-Man5730
@Videospiel-Man5730 5 ай бұрын
But then on the other hand the dont translate song titles! No matter if it makes sense or not the english titles are used in germany!
@tintinfinite3388
@tintinfinite3388 Жыл бұрын
While most English-speaking regions like Australia uses the NoE English localisation, there were times that the country uses the NoA localisation. In Australia, the DS Rhythm Heaven game was titled "Rhythm Heaven" like the North American name, and then the later games uses its European name instead.
@duncanblue124
@duncanblue124 Жыл бұрын
Localization for us usa people
@Kiri68419
@Kiri68419 Жыл бұрын
And the reverse happend with going from Splatoon 1 to 2. We sure love to thong...I mean flip flop.
@FrostGlader
@FrostGlader Жыл бұрын
The weirdest one is Squeak Squad. Australia seems to use the American version of the game, but every game that mentions it uses Mouse Attack, this is notable in Smash. Even weirder, we use the European versions of the Professor Layton series.
@RadioTails
@RadioTails Жыл бұрын
​@@FrostGlader The Australian versions of Nintendo DS games seem to use the Japan/USA black boxes (in most cases), instead of the bigger and ugly white boxes Europe used.
@FrostGlader
@FrostGlader Жыл бұрын
@@RadioTails normally that’s the case, but even that isn’t quite true. There’s a number of games in my collection that use the European Boxes, a notable example being Sonic Rush. They’re all Australian copies. I actually own 2 copies of Cars (DS), one uses the Black Box, while the other uses the European Box. They’re both official Australian copies.
@unboundsky9999
@unboundsky9999 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the whole “Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series” sticker on the Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne box art was only a thing in the European version. It was also renamed to Shin Megami Tensei: Lucifer’s Call for some reason.
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 Жыл бұрын
You are telling me the sticker was an actual thing and not made up for the meme?
@ParsleyGaming
@ParsleyGaming Жыл бұрын
One localisation difference that interested me was in Pikmin 3 where the UK dialogue implied Charlie had a crush for Brittany, whereas in America Charlie talked more about himself.
@Videospiel-Man5730
@Videospiel-Man5730 5 ай бұрын
Modern american games like to remove gender from the occasion so perhaps thats the reason?
@skydiamsteam6005
@skydiamsteam6005 Жыл бұрын
The difference between French and Canadian French localizations are also interesting, with sometimes use of Quebec slang
@akosy129
@akosy129 Жыл бұрын
My favourite one is that in Paper Mario Colo(u)r splash, there is a scene with a washing machine, and in America it’s top-loading washing machine, and in Europe it has that circular door on the side.
@nekogirlbeth123
@nekogirlbeth123 Жыл бұрын
Something that interests me is how the NoE translation of Miitopia, both 3DS original and Switch remaster, seems to have more fun with itself than the NoA translation. I could just give the comparison of NoA's "Sarcastic Guy" to NoE's "Sarky Bloke" but to elaborate a little, the NoE script lampshades tropes a little more often, engages in some sillier wordplay and likes to interject antiquated phrases contrasting the games' mishmash setting, it fits the vibe of the game a little better than the NoA translation.
@ToaderTheToad
@ToaderTheToad Жыл бұрын
From what I've played of NA Miitopia it doesn't seem to take itself very seriously either Though I will say that yeah it is a bit more toned down compared to Tomodachi Life
@FrancoPantoja
@FrancoPantoja Жыл бұрын
If I say so, the Latin American translation was also a bit fun and modern. They used words like "reggeaton" and "selfie stick"
@fathm4623
@fathm4623 Жыл бұрын
Melody Motorway is SUCH a better name for the track that it's kind of shame the default is presented as Music Park
@DeadweightLKS
@DeadweightLKS Жыл бұрын
The changed vehicle names messed me up quite a bit in Mario Kart Wii. Everyone online raved about the Flame Runner and I couldn’t figure out how to unlock it! Turns out… it’s just the Bowser Bike!
@autismandgaming4532
@autismandgaming4532 Жыл бұрын
One of my favourite examples of regional changes is in splatoon 2, where instead of the Vampires vs Werewolves splatfest, we got... Toilet paper in vs. Toliet Paper out. Im not joking
@Larry
@Larry Жыл бұрын
The Working Designs' US translations of JRPGs are full of '90s refrences that have really made them a part of their time. Loads of Wayne's World and Bill & Ted mannerisms Etc.
@Juliafy
@Juliafy Жыл бұрын
Mexican here, born and raised. The exact same thing happens with the Spanish language localizations. I think Spain had games in Spanish long before we had them here in Latin America. The first Nintendo game I can think of it's Pokémon Red/Blue, back in the year 2000 we finally got a Spanish translation, but it was the European version; even the cartridge had a different code: DMG-APAS-LTN. For me it was fun to been able to understand what the game was telling me... However there were some words that I've never heard nor read before. Six years later we finally got latin american localizations on games and they're quite different one from the other.
@timelymirror7826
@timelymirror7826 Жыл бұрын
Quite interesting
@FrancoPantoja
@FrancoPantoja Жыл бұрын
Yes, Europe got spanish translations one generation before America.
@BenEdwards98
@BenEdwards98 Жыл бұрын
Glad someone else is talking about the disgraceful disappearance of "I'm using motion controls!", It's something I noticed right away after 8 Deluxe came out
@bensell982
@bensell982 Жыл бұрын
You mentioned Ape Escape but failed to mention the best part part about Ape Escape 2. In the American version the main characters Jimmy and Natalie are voiced by the same people who did Ash and Misty in the pokemon dub. Strangely enough the American version is the only game in the series not published by Sony. Instead it was published by Ubisoft which is probably why the PSN version is the European version.
@conradojavier7547
@conradojavier7547 Жыл бұрын
Sony decided that if they Remaster Ape Escape, they'll use the Euro Dub as THE International Dub.
@tedioustotoro4885
@tedioustotoro4885 Жыл бұрын
I remember playing the game World’s End Club and that game having both an American and British translation for the text but only an American translation for the dub so, as the game went on, more and more lines varied between the text dialogue and the spoken dialogue.
@gabrielgoes0
@gabrielgoes0 Жыл бұрын
lmao that sucks
@AmethystLeslie
@AmethystLeslie Жыл бұрын
Thinking about how NoA localized the "This way" command in Splatoon 1 as "C'mon" which could be seen as condescending, like "c'mon, what are you DOING?" I didn't know until years later that it was supposed to be a "This way" command. Also, agreed with the British VAs in the Xenoblade series being the identity of the series. It's especially cool in America cuz we love fantasy settings with British accents. Plus... It's different. Non-American (English-speaking) VAs is interesting from an American perspective.
@lrgogo1517
@lrgogo1517 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a screenshot of JPN Splatoon 1, and the command there was 「カモン」 "Kamon," so I guess someone on the team said, "Oh, hey, that's already an English term! We can use that as well, right? :)"
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 Жыл бұрын
Xenoblade 1 is also one of those rare times where the english dub is straight up just the definitive way of playing the game.
@gamefreakDX
@gamefreakDX Жыл бұрын
Layton games not only have the superior European names, but also the superior British VA. Namely Luke. Though I was surprised that in the Phoenix Wright crossover, all regions used the British VA for luke.
@rhodrage
@rhodrage Жыл бұрын
I listened to Us Luke for the first time recently and was amazed by how awful it was. Maybe cause I was used to British Luke, but British Luke actually sounds right as a Brit, US Luke sounds like a bad impression.
@adamdonnelly6470
@adamdonnelly6470 Жыл бұрын
@@rhodrage I’m not 100% on this but I believe UK playtesters for the Curious Village hated Luke’s American voice so much that the devs had to recast him for the UK/Irish release of the game.
@Gabo2oo
@Gabo2oo Жыл бұрын
The crossover didn't get a North American localization at all, they straight-up reused the UK one as-is. Not an issue for the Layton characters, but it feels super weird to read Phoenix calling himself a "defence attorney", to be honest.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
Interestingly Layton's VA isn't British so his accent is fake, but it's kept for all regions since UK people seem to like it. I get why they'd change Luke though, bad cockney is VERY noticeable and jarring to someone outside America. Especially from a child character.
@XelchanTheBrave
@XelchanTheBrave Жыл бұрын
Honestly I wish NoE kept localizing Splatoon into english. Their script was less crazy but it kept the serious aspects of the story intact which became more and more important with the games going forward. KZfaqr Rassicas (forgot the name so correct me if I'm wrong) has some very good videos at how NoA's localization of Octo Expansion is just plain worse and makes a story that originally simply had political undertones way too politically charged.
@Kritigri
@Kritigri Жыл бұрын
Oh hey, I have one! On the PS1, there's a completely different voice actor for Gex in Gex: Enter the Gecko (or Gex 3D: Enter the Gecko). Gex also has completely different lines depending on the version.
@KaraDestare
@KaraDestare Жыл бұрын
You just can't hate Gex after learning he's voiced by Cat from Red Dwarf lol
@gamagama69
@gamagama69 Жыл бұрын
whoa thats really different
@YukeWeiss
@YukeWeiss Жыл бұрын
Ding Dong
@theshadowdirector
@theshadowdirector Жыл бұрын
Xenoblade X did have have an in-story reason for why it needed an American dub. But I'm glad they moved back for 2 and 3, the British subbing industry needs the work!
@TaliesinMyrddin
@TaliesinMyrddin Жыл бұрын
I like how in XC2 all the 'ancient' 500 year old characters were US accents while most of the modern ones were British isles and Australia. It's a fun little flip on the real world.
@theshadowdirector
@theshadowdirector Жыл бұрын
@@TaliesinMyrddin yes, though I think most of them are British actors putting on accents (Pyra ages Mythra for certain) though most do a good job.
@gabrielgoes0
@gabrielgoes0 Жыл бұрын
does it? I don't remember
@TaliesinMyrddin
@TaliesinMyrddin Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielgoes0 Pretty much just that all the humans in XCX were refugees from the US on Earth, it wasn't really specifically a "this is why we sound like this" thing in the plot
@gabrielgoes0
@gabrielgoes0 Жыл бұрын
@@TaliesinMyrddin oh, I didn't remember that very important plot point lmao thanks for clarifying
@theshadowdirector
@theshadowdirector Жыл бұрын
Another Code/Trace Memory is one where I've heard the European translation is preferred as NoA inserted a lot of humour that wasn't indeed. Especially important when considering a story driven game.
@petershillito
@petershillito Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the American version (Trace Memory) makes Ashley American along with having her be pretty easy going and quick to trust D, while the European English Another Code has Ashley be a lot more suspicious and cynical about the whole "there's a ghost hanging out with me". I do wonder whether the treatment of the localisations of these games in America contributed to both the sequel to Another Code on the Wii and the sequel to Hotel Dusk both only coming out in Japan and Europe, skipping the Americas entirely.
@llaffer
@llaffer Жыл бұрын
5:31 "You could have just put a U in there" Nintendo was saving all of those extra U's for the Wii U later on :)
@mikemaster43
@mikemaster43 Жыл бұрын
They also double localize Spanish! For Spain and Latin América!
@skydiamsteam6005
@skydiamsteam6005 Жыл бұрын
And also French and Canadian French!
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 Жыл бұрын
I think they do that even more than for English since the difference is bigger.
@Alaneeeeee
@Alaneeeeee Жыл бұрын
@@belstar1128 Yes. Every single game gets it's own translation, and both versions are pretty different.
@FrancoPantoja
@FrancoPantoja Жыл бұрын
The Spanish translations started one generation earlier in Europe
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 Жыл бұрын
@@FrancoPantoja Yea back in the 90s gaming companies really only cared about richer countries. even today Africa and most Asia gets nothing.
@nickk3077
@nickk3077 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention that in Triforce Heroes, the Triforce never appears, so it doesn't make sense to call Link the Triforce Hero.
@Videospiel-Man5730
@Videospiel-Man5730 5 ай бұрын
That one even had memes thrown in by america!
@SharpEdgeSoda
@SharpEdgeSoda Жыл бұрын
I know sometimes it seems like keeping the original Japanese is the way to go, but remember, when Nintendo picks the Japanese Name, they are picking something that *sounds marketable* in the Japanese language. "Universal Gravitation" might *flow* better in Japanese as a subtitle, and when a game's title is functionally part of it's marketing, localization can make the call to change things if the direct translation doesn't "flow" in the language it's being translated to. Cultures are different, and what works in different cultures is the job of localization. Sometimes they may make the wrong call, but you don't *notice* the right calls.
@euducationator
@euducationator Жыл бұрын
I think it's also worth noting that "Universal Gravitation" conflicts very strongly with the tone of the Yoshi series. It sounds very verbose and science fiction-like. Yoshi games lean very heavily to the side of being lighthearted and cartoony so having a name like this just doesn't fit a Yoshi game very well.
@DisableYT
@DisableYT Жыл бұрын
Paper Mario: Sticker Star had a completely separate translation too. I haven't seen them side by side, but I heard the UK translation is considered to be better. Personally, I'll never forget that Toad who called Bowser a "wally".
@CaptainJLinebeck
@CaptainJLinebeck Жыл бұрын
Yeah the EU version of Sticker Star uses a lot of British slang that gives the characters more a regional personality
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 Жыл бұрын
@@CaptainJLinebeck That makes it pretty annoying for non uk players who are stuck with the uk version because their countries are too small .even now i watch some uk youtubers and they just say some gibberish word like "the mugs eyeful"
@X2011racer
@X2011racer Жыл бұрын
Even though it's technically not Nintendo, there were some changes between the NTSC-U/C and PAL English versions of Goldeneye. Aside from the obvious spelling changes, Q's Analysis for Facility no longer misidentifies the mines as Timed Mines. In the NTSC version, Q warns Bond that the mines will go off once they are placed, which is false; The mines you carry are Remote Mines and therefore must be manually detonated. In the PAL version, Q instead informs Bond to place the mines in a way so that all the targets are destroyed, or else if improperly placed, the mines won't take out every canister. The cancelled XBLA version appears to be using the PAL version as its basis, as it uses the PAL version Analysis instead of the NTSC version. However, the Xbox Game Pass version uses the NTSC-U/C version regardless of Region.
@mrtoyreviewman
@mrtoyreviewman Жыл бұрын
Wow, I didn’t even know about the motion/tilt controls thing, I always thought it was motion controls for all versions and they just changed it for the Switch version. I’ve been saying I’m using motion controls for years. The more you know!
@M0vess
@M0vess Жыл бұрын
I will always advocate for Melody Motorway being a way better name
@jeffgreen5429
@jeffgreen5429 Жыл бұрын
While I'm impartial to most of these: Wario's Galleon is fantastic. Using Shipyard in NA has shades of "Sorcerer's Stone" because American kids are apparently not smart enough to understand "Philosopher's Stone".
@BSCTDrayden
@BSCTDrayden Жыл бұрын
still love how Layton games in Europe have the grammar things AND a different dub for Luke
@jimmyrobertson4264
@jimmyrobertson4264 Жыл бұрын
when we were kids, one of my friends had an american copy of layton (i think curious village), i was so jarred by luke's VA. there's just something a BIT off about the accent.
@Blazio
@Blazio Жыл бұрын
Another thing with the Color/Colour thing is we use Colour in Canada yet almost always get the American version of games with their spelling.
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 Жыл бұрын
You know its really annoying is when people try to correct me when i use to word color. i use both the American and uk spelling since i don't speak English natively and learned from a mix of uk and American media. but there is always someone who thinks i am dùmb for using the alternative spelling.
@BahamutOmega
@BahamutOmega Жыл бұрын
Then add in the usual Americanisms of changing metric units to imperial. Something that should just be left in the game as standard pretty much everywhere else.
@vgbcp3rs0na41
@vgbcp3rs0na41 Жыл бұрын
FIGHT US!!!
@louish5068
@louish5068 Жыл бұрын
I preferred when they did the separate localisations. I hate how now we just get the american english version, we need more british english in gaming. Also, apparently Spyke in Splatoon talks stereotypically british now??? He never did in splatoon 1 here in europe but now that we just get the american translation he does in the dlc. And its weird. He basically feels like a different character
@matthewberry2144
@matthewberry2144 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, while I think NOA has made fun translations that can add more charm, I think many translations go too far, and Splatoon is one of the worst offenders for that. I kinda prefer when they make it more faithful to the Japanese version there, and since Splatoon 2, Europe has just taken America's localized text. Like there's the infamous Marina fiasco where NOA addressed Marina being way too mean in the English localization when she was nothing like that in Japanese and changed some dialogue for her to be more pleasant.
@timelymirror7826
@timelymirror7826 Жыл бұрын
Nintendo of America is responsible for the localizations
@Ronald_Ruck
@Ronald_Ruck Жыл бұрын
In an English vocabulary test I wrote "colour" wrong because I didn't know the writing on my GBC was not British English. 😔
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 Жыл бұрын
Yea that stuff is so annoying i sometimes get hate online when i write it in the "wrong" way.
@supermariof0521
@supermariof0521 Жыл бұрын
You forgot "Mario Party 8". In the board, "Shy Guy's Perplex Express", there's an event where Magikoopa casts a spell that contains the word "Spastic". However when the game was localized in Europe, initial copies contained that word, but were quickly recalled due to the word "Spastic" being a European slur against diasbled people. So the word was replaced with "Eratic".
@Envy_May
@Envy_May Жыл бұрын
this is a weird one, but there are also instances of "magikoopa" being used in america when "kamek" is used in europe, even though both of those words are canon, just one refers to the species and the other refers to an individual
@pvzmariosonica8fan
@pvzmariosonica8fan Жыл бұрын
The line was also changed in later US releases
@supermariof0521
@supermariof0521 Жыл бұрын
@@pvzmariosonica8fan Oh it was?
@pvzmariosonica8fan
@pvzmariosonica8fan Жыл бұрын
@@supermariof0521 Yes it was
@blumenmupfel
@blumenmupfel Жыл бұрын
The game boy color vs. colour thing actually tripped me up in school because my teacher and our workbook used British English, so it was "wrong" when I put color because of my beloved GBC D:
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 Жыл бұрын
On the internet sometimes people get angry at me because i spell it in the American way. but sometimes i spell it in the uk way and then people also get mad at me. so its really pointless and i don't even speak English natively.
@oscarzxn4067
@oscarzxn4067 Жыл бұрын
Here in Latín America Nintendo does an alternative localization for their games next to Spain for their most popular games, but Pokémon company doesn't and we hate the excesive use of slang from Spain
@spoon7053
@spoon7053 Жыл бұрын
what are some examples??? thats so annoying that the most profitable nintendo games ever cant be bothered to make a latin american localization
@vboyz21
@vboyz21 Жыл бұрын
Us in Spain too hate the localisation sometimes. It's so unnatural 😂 Por ejemplo para decir me hace ilusión... o sea ¿Quién dice eso? 😂
@oscarzxn4067
@oscarzxn4067 Жыл бұрын
@@spoon7053 for example they use a lot the word "pija" for rich girls I think, but in many latin american countries it means dick, which can be funny but also weird and also inappropiate since it's a kid's game. That's ony one example.
@MaximumAddition
@MaximumAddition Жыл бұрын
I always feel like people waaaay overblow the slang thing when actually playing the games (being Mexican and playing in Spanish), but TPC at least seems to have a proper "Latin America" branch officially now, if the KZfaq channel and their job openings mean anything. The trading card has a LatAm translation now at least, here's hoping the next mainline game does too, though given Pokemon's system for labeling Pokemon according to the language the game they're from was in, I wonder how they'll label LatAm Spanish. Maybe "LAS" or "LSP"?
@Following1000
@Following1000 Жыл бұрын
Whilst the process of relocalising for the same language may seem pointless, I do love a lot of these UK localisations more than their US counterparts. A game that was relocalised but not mentioned here is Fantasy Life. This was bizzarly a game that released in EU and AU before NA, and their scripts are another case of completely seperate localisations. Therefore there's a lot of differences, such as Flutter being unnamed in the NA version, Staffs being called Wands (Because NA don't know what a staff is apparently), location name changes and the Magician job being called Wizard as a few examples. There's also the DLC exclusive job titles being 'Demi-Creator' and 'Creator' in NA, but in EU their's no hidding and it's straight up 'God-In-Training' and 'God'.
@Terranigma23
@Terranigma23 Жыл бұрын
It's like in the Wii era. A lot of Nintendo games (like Mario Galaxy 1&2) were translated in "Québécois" (French Canadian language from the province of Québec). :)
@M00nlightOfficial
@M00nlightOfficial Жыл бұрын
I think probably my favorite example of localization differences is Endless Ocean: Blue World, or in Europe, Endless Ocean 2: Adventures Of The Deep. First off, I think the name Blue World makes more sense as you explore the waters of each continent, though Adventures Of The Deep is probably referencing the end of the game. However, lots of names, phrases, and even species were changed as well. There was a KZfaqr named SkullKid3 who used to Let's Play the European version (as that's where he lived) which shows the localized differences.
@boredgoddesstori6635
@boredgoddesstori6635 Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: in German it‘s called „Rette die Krone!“ (save the crown!) instead of Find Mii or Streetpass Quest
@jules9424
@jules9424 Жыл бұрын
In Dutch it's called "Mii in Misére" (Mii in trouble). I really like the alliteration of this one.
@podracer35
@podracer35 Жыл бұрын
The pronunciation of Duck Hunt fact made me chuckle. I never thought of that and will never unhear it
@mark_eire
@mark_eire Жыл бұрын
I didn't even know "tilt controls" was some meme. I sure do remember the motion controls line though. Played loads of that on WiiU. "I'll give it my best shot!"
@jullicent
@jullicent Жыл бұрын
One other thing is sometimes Nintendo outsources their localization instead of doing it internally. For example, Fire Emblem Awakening, Xenoblade X, and FE Warriors Three Hopes were all done by 8-4.
@timelymirror7826
@timelymirror7826 Жыл бұрын
8-4??
@theshadowdirector
@theshadowdirector Жыл бұрын
You could probably make a whole other video on this topic in regrets to offensive words between cultures having to be alerted. Like with Super Mario RPG. And there's also the recent petition in Latin American countries to localise their Spanish translations more as certain words and phrases from Spain don't land so well over there.
@vegamonado7562
@vegamonado7562 Жыл бұрын
An example with the word “Take” In the Latino Spanish we use “Tomar or also Recoger” Tomar also means Drink (the action, not the object) But in the Spanish from Spain they use Coger “that also means Take” here is the problem, in Latino Spanish it has other meaning, straight up “Fuck” so it’s really funny.
@iviyohane
@iviyohane Жыл бұрын
That petition was for Pokémon, as the main first party games also have double localizations (with some exceptions like the Xenoblade series) since the Wii, but Pokémon only includes a translation meant for the people from Spain. However, with Scarlet and Violet, the Pokémon originated from a Spanish game file have the "SP-EU" tag, so maybe future games will have a proper, separate translation for all Latam (SP-LA?).
@Envy_May
@Envy_May Жыл бұрын
like how dimentio calls luigi's moustache a "shag of hair" but only in the american version ?
@tylerlarsen1842
@tylerlarsen1842 Жыл бұрын
Keeping in theme with the video above (American English vs. British English), in Mario Party 8, on the Shy Guy Express board or whatever it was called, there's an event where Kamek is casting one of his spells, and in the NOA localization, he says the word "spastic", which in American English has the inoffensive meaning of having a lot of energy (in the bouncing off of walls sort of way). However, in the UK, that same word is used to describe mentally-challenged individuals and can easily come off as derogatory. Nintendo knew this was a problem and had a version without the offending word prepared, but they screwed up and accidentally shipped the North American version to the UK, which resulted in a large-scale recall of shipments to fix the issue.
@MuchWhittering
@MuchWhittering Жыл бұрын
I wish more companies did proper British versions. Sucker Punch is great for it. The Sly games all used British spellings over here, and Ghost of Tsushima has a British English option for its subs too. In Jak 3, the Slam Dozer became the Ram Rod for some reason.
@F0XK1D
@F0XK1D Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy these videos that focus on the European gaming market! Most channels focus on the US
@datalphalion
@datalphalion Жыл бұрын
At least Europe got their revenge when Hot Shots Golf on PS4 was simply called Everybody’s Golf in all regions. So I’d say it’s worth it.
@coolcraze302
@coolcraze302 Жыл бұрын
I remember as a child watching Americans play splatoon and then being shocked when I finally got the game and saw Cuttlefish saying ‘give ‘em hell’ in the first level in the British version
@DaNintendude
@DaNintendude Жыл бұрын
I like to headcanon that Music Park is the name of the full park-- while Melody Motorway is the specific road you drive on. That way the flags make sense.
@HybridAngelZero
@HybridAngelZero Жыл бұрын
Here's a fun thing: the version of Ape Escape 2 on North American PSN for PS4 is actually the British English version. At first I wondered why this happened (Ape Escape 1 has the North American localization on PSN) and I realized Ubisoft actually localized Ape Escape 2 and 3 in America, and Sony likely just slapped the PAL version (which they published) on there so they wouldn't have to pay Ubisoft
@UnknownUser-ow5zb
@UnknownUser-ow5zb Жыл бұрын
I don't know why I prefer the name Suckerfish over Squee-G in Splatoon so much, but I am still irritated that they went with that name going forward. I also prefer how Judd speaks in the UK version, I feel the dryness and lack of cat puns fits him much better.
@CiromBreeze
@CiromBreeze Жыл бұрын
Suckerfish was such a better name, given that it's slang for an *actual fish* which does pretty much the same thing.
@AlterBridgeJericho
@AlterBridgeJericho Жыл бұрын
There is a hilarious moment in EU/PAL 3DS Miitopia where a character says "it's just me, your mighty and infallible God" which they apparently removed in the US version since they thought using God's name would be taken in vain. So dumb.
@Koivusilta
@Koivusilta Жыл бұрын
Dragon Quest V didn't have a number either in Europe. It was only with DQVI and IX, when Nintendo took over the European publishing duties of Dragon Quest games from Square Enix that they started using the numbers in European releases. And even then, DQVI was called Realms of "Reverie" instead of "Revelation" here. :) But yeah, this stuff is so fascinating, particularly in cases like Kirby and Smash Bros where they even go out on their way to record new voices for the PAL english release. Konami did that with the Eledees/Elebits games as well.
@PhirePhlame
@PhirePhlame Жыл бұрын
As a fun fact, the Korean version of Mario Strikers Charged is called "Mario Power Soccer"
@Snugboy
@Snugboy Жыл бұрын
Hey Jon SO sorry but I will NOT be watching this video until the American localization is available. Thanks for understanding
@GVG
@GVG Жыл бұрын
We'll get Derrick to dub it
@Snugboy
@Snugboy Жыл бұрын
@@GVG thank you so much for understanding!!!!!!!
@TheZebbga
@TheZebbga Жыл бұрын
​@@Snugboy It would be hilarious if they did haha. With script edits and everything.
@carlosraruto
@carlosraruto Жыл бұрын
I remember being surprised at how different Advance wars Days of Ruin was between the European and American versions
@xtrem5428
@xtrem5428 Жыл бұрын
Splatoon 2 had the same thing in French too. The NA French and EU French were very different, even in the name of the weapons. I had to make a translation file because my team had players in both France and Quebec. For example, the Forge Splattershot Pro is "Liquéficateur pro Fusia" in Canada, and "Liquidateur pro griffé" in France. Or the Aerospray MG being "Pouche-pouche" in Canada and "Aérogun" in France.
@timelymirror7826
@timelymirror7826 Жыл бұрын
how many Nintendo games have Canadian french
@xtrem5428
@xtrem5428 Жыл бұрын
@@timelymirror7826 I dunno about that. I play mostly in English. I know Star Fox 64 3D only had France French dubs and it's what made me switch to English. Might be more recent games that have both translations, because if you go back to the N64 era, they didn't have French at all in NA versions.
@BasVoet
@BasVoet Жыл бұрын
As a non-English speaker by origin I have always found these differences fascinating.
@keatsiannightingale
@keatsiannightingale Жыл бұрын
Great video! This is a very interesting topic for me (I'm a translator) and I always like to see the differences in videogame localisation. Localisation gone wrong could also be a good topic to cover!
@Telzrob
@Telzrob Жыл бұрын
OK, most of this is logical enough. I do take issue with equating "Long Johns" to "Trousers". Long Johns are a specific type of long underwear (Worn when it's frickin' COLD), also called thermal underwear. They go UNDER clothes, if you're showing them off you're doing it wrong (unless your about to have a good time, and are in a very warm place (or a place that's about to BECOME very warm (*wink wink *know what I mean? *nudge nudge))).
@hrudyplayz
@hrudyplayz Жыл бұрын
In french, we say neither "tilt controls" or "motion controls" but "i'm using the gyroscope"
@millasgameroom
@millasgameroom Жыл бұрын
as a fellow european, glad to see more attention on this.
@kbhasi
@kbhasi Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making a video about that! The games having separate UK localisations were the primary reason why I wanted to import E region Wii U and gen 2 3DS consoles into Singapore to play instead of the U region consoles and games we got here!!! However, I never did as I didn't have much of an interest in gaming and couldn't afford to even get a 3DS and some games at the time! Then the Switch came out and it seems to have US English only, no UK English, at least in Splatoon and Animal Crossing, the first-party games I play the most on mine, and would try and translate the American nuances into British nuances, but that only works for comparison points I know about. I should really consider working on a series of blog posts and videos to help more people translate US English to UK English, but if I did, there'd be more of a focus on fiction books as I'm more of a bookworm than a gamer.
@Bracketmeister
@Bracketmeister Жыл бұрын
The fact that in the US version of Splatoon, Spyke was written as a cockney, but in the PAL version, he was a shady guy that, if anything, probably sounded more American than most other characters is so weird to me. And since we return to Inkopolis Plaza in the first DLC for Splatoon 3, seeing Spyke with the cockney dialogue feels like he's had an entire character rewrite.
@legendofhayden
@legendofhayden Жыл бұрын
my ability to correctly predict if it’s a Jon video so often means you’ve established your vibe so well that it comes through in the titles and topics you choose
@TurnaboutAdam
@TurnaboutAdam Жыл бұрын
I was literally thinking this as I saw the title.
@trapez77
@trapez77 Жыл бұрын
He carries this channel
@TurnaboutAdam
@TurnaboutAdam Жыл бұрын
@@trapez77 nah, the whole gang is great. Jon’s content is A+, though
@RatzaChewy
@RatzaChewy Жыл бұрын
Many of the differences between game titles in the US and UK was because of European trademark law. One name could be registered in one language, and any direct translation to another language would be covered by the same trademark filing. It will be interesting to see if Brexit changes that.
@BagOfMagicFood
@BagOfMagicFood 28 күн бұрын
I have read about how many changes the European version of Luigi's Mansion 2 made to the English script! I also read that Sonic Battle made a bunch of little changes to the English script that already existed in the Japanese version...
@Kirvyx
@Kirvyx Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of how games have 2 spanish's Latin american spanish and european spanish (like spain)
@skydiamsteam6005
@skydiamsteam6005 Жыл бұрын
And also don’t forget French and Canadian French
@vboyz21
@vboyz21 Жыл бұрын
I never knew how much I was missing this video from my life. Good work lads 🙌🏼🙌🏼
@RayOfTruth
@RayOfTruth Жыл бұрын
As an American I really much prefer the European localizations that are more accurate to the Japanese version. Even with Xenoblade X there is a lot of weird NOA changes that make the lore needlessly more confusing, and also removes religious references, Xenogears references, and the Turn A Gundam reference. Breath of the Wild is also infamous for having many localization issues thanks to NOA.
@miket.1933
@miket.1933 Жыл бұрын
That was totally weird. I played Fantasy Life a month ago and later saw a video and I was really surprised that some jokes in the dialog were completely different.
@CiromBreeze
@CiromBreeze Жыл бұрын
Fantasy Life is probably one of the biggest changes between versions - even character names (Flutter/Butterfly, Fluffkin/Furkin, Cherry/Poppy), locations (Levitania/Terra Nimbus, Choir Hall/Chapel, Drysand Desert/Aridian Desert) and classes (Magician/Wizard, God Rank/Creator Rank) are different! ... Makes it really annoying to play multiplayer, honestly. Most ironic is the first Alchemy quest, known as "Alchemy 101" in EU but "Liquid Lessons" in the US. We don't even use the term "101" here, that's purely an American thing.
@Nintentoad125
@Nintentoad125 Жыл бұрын
It will never not annoy me how NOA came up with the wonderful name of the "Check Mii Out Channel" but NOE thought "Mii Contest Channel" was a better name
@RioBlitzle
@RioBlitzle Жыл бұрын
the list of different localised game names was interesting, because while with some i was well familiar (rhythm heaven vs rhythm paradise and pushmo vs pullblox for example), there were some i just had no idea were a thing until now, on both sides of the pond- my childhood copy of squeak squad was a rom on an r4 and i had no idea it was supposed to be called mouse attack here, and i also had no idea americans call streetpass quest find mii!!
@CiromBreeze
@CiromBreeze Жыл бұрын
Honestly, "Find Mii" sounds like some weird search game (... you know, like the one in Wii Play, which actually IS called Find Mii), rather than a game where you're on a quest to save the prince/princess, so in this instance I prefer StreetPass Quest. (Though if it was "Save Mii", it'd be a whole 'nother story...)
@Shadow650Nintendero
@Shadow650Nintendero Жыл бұрын
I just started the video and I'm just at 0:33, but I can already say that Spanish speakers can relate. We, Latin Americans sometimes, receive Spaniard translations, and sometimes it's pretty unfair since Latin America is literally a bunch of countries in a continent, while Spain is literally just one country and they receive better language support, prices and customer support than all our Latin American countries.
@GeorgeGwiazda
@GeorgeGwiazda Жыл бұрын
Yeah but it’s their language first and foremost, they invented it.
@Shadow650Nintendero
@Shadow650Nintendero Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeGwiazda I mean, yeah, just like English is UK's language in the first place. But we know that not only UK speaks English and there's a big cultural difference between US and UK. The same happens with Spain and LATAM.
@GeorgeGwiazda
@GeorgeGwiazda Жыл бұрын
@@Shadow650Nintendero True, true.
@FruityKoala
@FruityKoala Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in Australia we get a mishmash of EU and NA. Botw on Switch actually has the NA box art but the EU cartridge meaning the home icon doesn’t match up with the box art 😠
@goronberry
@goronberry Жыл бұрын
One of my favourite localisation changes is in Spirit Tracks, the four different quadrants of the world are called realms in the American version but lands in the European version. While the European version technically makes more sense as the term realm is typically used for areas far more separate to Hyrule such as the Sacred Realm or the Twilight Realm (Even the European version of Spirit Tracks still calls the final area the Dark Realm), it lead to the unfortunate consequence of one of the areas being called Water Land which is really dumb sounding.
@Kilumy
@Kilumy Жыл бұрын
Gotta love all the european Gaming content that Jon does :)
@FizzyChalice
@FizzyChalice Жыл бұрын
Finally, I’ve always wanted to see someone discuss this.
@SuperFromND
@SuperFromND Жыл бұрын
i've got a rather minor one, but flipnic on PS2 was given the subtitle "ultimate pinball" over in NA and our version changed the names of the theology stages to "evolution" also the NA version was published by capcom; the EU one was published by ubisoft, and the JP one by sony themselves
@HaydenTheEeeeeeeeevilEukaryote
@HaydenTheEeeeeeeeevilEukaryote Жыл бұрын
In Splatoon 1, Spyke was only outright British in the American version, Up on the D-Pad was “C’Mon” instead of Europe and Japan’s “To Me”/“This Way” or whatever, and Down on the D-Pad was “Booyah” instead of “Nice”. Because “C’Mon” kinda sounds like “Come on man what the hell”, many non-Americans playing with Americans dealt with “To Me!” in situations that didn’t apply at all. It also confused and split the American playerbase and the vagueness just sucked. Now, everyone gets “This way!” and “Booyah!”, which is much nicer
@pickle24
@pickle24 Жыл бұрын
An interesting and important aspect of the splatoon 1 european localisation is the two in-game signals you can send to teammates. The american game offered "Booyah" and "C'mon", while the european had "Nice" and "To me", which are infinitely lamer at least imo.
@GamerFunOriginallyAarush
@GamerFunOriginallyAarush Жыл бұрын
Ain’t this a pretty good Jon episode? It is a good episode!
@Alaneeeeee
@Alaneeeeee Жыл бұрын
This may not be the right channel to talk about this, but Europe Spanish vs Latin America Spanish translations are different too. Like, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay different, from the script itself to names of places and characters, it's all changed, for every single game. And Nintendo's localization teams LOVE it. The only Nintendo games that don't have LA Spanish translations are the Pokémon games. That makes many Latin American players play the english version instead!
@patrickpeer7774
@patrickpeer7774 Жыл бұрын
Usually non-English speaking regions in Europe get either the British titles or translations of those.
@beartackle
@beartackle Жыл бұрын
This video is adorbs! Very interesting and fun to watch!
@TurnaboutAdam
@TurnaboutAdam Жыл бұрын
This is so funny, literally 4 hours ago I was talking with an American friend about how Kirby Squeak Squad was called mouse attack here. I hadn’t even heard of the game before that, and here it used as an example.
@Tudsamfa
@Tudsamfa Жыл бұрын
German here, I only know Francis, the nerd chameleon from Super Paper Mario, is named Konrad in the German version. I heard this is in reference to the German Tech supply store Conrad... which is both weird and without citation, but I cant even imagine any other reason for the name change.
@Sparx632
@Sparx632 Жыл бұрын
I remember that cool DSiWare game X-Scape (X-Returns in Japan) was called 3D Space Tank here in Europe, very creative.
@dcashley303
@dcashley303 Жыл бұрын
5:19 haven't LOLd this much in a while haha! Thanks for that!
@swagkirby3449
@swagkirby3449 Жыл бұрын
Something else is the DSiWare Express sample titles are called "A little bit of X" in Europe and I can't unhear Lou Bega's Mambo number 5 upon learning that
@bregowine
@bregowine Жыл бұрын
Nothing like a Jon vid to close the work week
@jteneb
@jteneb Жыл бұрын
Jon is so cool that now just listening to this intro music puts a smile on my face =)
@jaykebird2go
@jaykebird2go Жыл бұрын
While names are one thing, I think the actual differences in the in-game scripts are much more interesting. NoA seems to generally go for more of a natural-sounding and stylized approach, in comparison to NoE being more strict and direct with their translations (I bet NoE having to manage translations into multiple languages is indeed part of it). There is definitely some debate about NoA's stylistic changes straying a bit too far from the original Japanese (such as in Splatoon 2's Octo Expansion), but in general I feel the two aren't that far off from each other. There's always going to be a question of how to balance being a literal translation from another language (especially one like Japanese) and sounding natural and believable in English. At least it's interesting that due to NoA and NoE's differing styles, we get to experience two different balances in an official capacity, which most other situations (such as anime) we only get one official translation.
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