Nioh - Leveling, Are you Gimping Yourself? Let's have a discussion about the leveling system in Nioh. It isn't as straightforward as it seems.
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@franky_saint4 жыл бұрын
The main reason you are seeing inconsistency is that each Core Stat is focusing on a different main weapon. It's trying lead you based on weapon/equipment preference.
@higglesnioh68057 жыл бұрын
All weapons have scaling, your spear has an A in body so if you max body out you will have the most damage output with that Stat point, and hp because that's what body also gives, there are times where you lvl your Stat point and will just give you one to your damage but it jumps back up. What your weapon scales off is shown on the weapon D being the worst A being the best.
@flanoflare20594 жыл бұрын
Wait so in nioh your stats should depend on your weapons?????
@doomguy54064 жыл бұрын
@@flanoflare2059 Meh. It doesn't matter that much. Just level each stat up to give you health, ki, stamina etc... boosts. I use axes so did my strength to 15, now most are around 16-20 apart from Dex because I don't use Ninjitsu. That's the only real decision you need to make, are you going to use Magic or Ninjitsu. It's not really wise to level both. I'm around 2/3 of the way through my first playthru and can easily switch from axe to sword to spear and use several magic talismans. You can get by without worrying too much about stats, weapons and armour.
@yansen1834 жыл бұрын
@@flanoflare2059 yeop
@Cyril23745 жыл бұрын
The way it works is based on eastern philosophy; sound mind,body and spirit. Don't try to pick and choose to get a max output but rather have a balance in levels clean across. This game is based on strategy, skill, patience. Team ninja gave us a good game that will keep us occupied.
@jpmisterioman5 жыл бұрын
This game is grind? I want to play it, but I don't have the patience for grinding mmo like games.
@seorwhite33335 жыл бұрын
@@jpmisterioman it's called an action rpg.
@TimeIsMine934 жыл бұрын
Yeahhhhh no. There's thresh holds in each stat,; you cross that number and you get extra effect. It's hard to see with only 10 levels to spend but spreading levels between stats means you'll hit those thresholds with bonuses a lot slower. In testing this I found if I spread my levels to more than 2 i lose a lot of damage to diminishing returns. A jack of all trades will always be a master of none. If you know what you what william to be pumping the key stat will get you there fastest
@unsubme21574 жыл бұрын
@@jpmisterioman then go play a souls game
@me59694 жыл бұрын
Dark Souls is a farming simulator though. Same as Bloodborne. I’m not knocking them, I love them (bloodborne more) but telling someone who doesn’t like grinding to go and play farming simulator isn’t really sound advice.
@kaiserschnitzel894 жыл бұрын
lol at any "build" with 99 in any stat in Dark Souls
@Jesaaf4 жыл бұрын
The tool tip will say a stat (mainly effects spears), however if you go to the weapon itself it will say how the stat effects the weapon (for example BODY B+, STRENGTH C+, SKILL D-
@immortalcbox87694 жыл бұрын
Just started playing this and saw this comment. Now I understand what those stats actually mean at the bottom.
@thesituation53152 жыл бұрын
So what does it mean? Does A or D affect a weapon more?
@fujiwara_42054 жыл бұрын
I know this is super late but it means the armour you are wearing is getting lighter. Max out strength and wearing heavy armour will be like wearing cloth. There's no reduction persay, its all good.
@dustyswrath88784 жыл бұрын
I think it all just depends on how you decide to play. Don’t know if anyone’s wrong haha. Good vid man, subbed. Love this game 💪🏻🤘🏻
@derekwilliams69614 жыл бұрын
It's just like other games of this type to me, in that you pick what you want to upgrade the most. Some will upgrade a little to hp and the power of certain weapons. Like most action RPGs I focus on my hit power and/or weapon power and rely on blocking and dodging attacks. I am a spear/ dual sword user and have put a lot into my skill points level as it gives me points for most of my weapons used. I have just now started slowly putting points into other levels for just magic and health. I have been using my prestige points for a lot of my health upgrades.
@Vei--3 жыл бұрын
Nioh weapon scaling with stats. It's on the wiki. Differen't weapons scale with different stats. THe same stats could affect different weapons with different amounts.
@LincolnsDementure6 жыл бұрын
Sorry mate we don’t have insight this is Nioh not Bloodborne
@nripeshpokala22555 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@nakilucky4 жыл бұрын
He need to say ochoko
@Andy-rf5jx11 ай бұрын
Bloodborne is amazing . I'm really liking this game right now in 2023 lol can't wait to play nioh 2 I just bought
@reikoanderson5424 жыл бұрын
Some states get bigger bonuses at certain levels. But the bosses sometime get harder if your farm for levels
@witkidone4 жыл бұрын
You prob figured this out but you cant leave the body point applied and then add a strength point and correctly count differences between the two. The results will always display the total of all applied points at once. To correctly compare each types results you have to apply them one at a time and then remove them before applying a different type of point to determine which one added a higher total amount to the overall total.
@hugohoyos28286 жыл бұрын
lol wut? 99 in a stat in dark souls is prob the dumbest thing you could do while leveling.
@bizzzzzzle6 жыл бұрын
But this isn’t dark souls.
@hugohoyos28286 жыл бұрын
yea mike it's the opposite in this game. w/e your main damage stat is you wanna pump it to the max and when you raise the limit you wanna take it even further to 200 instead of 99.
@RESIDENT44EVIL45 жыл бұрын
He is probably a casual don't bother
@Maikeru1014 жыл бұрын
Best to cap at 50 in the souls series, but it's different in nioh because there is no cap on the bonuses of stats until 99
@godsreclamation25394 жыл бұрын
I love dark souls but nioh is a masterpiece. Can't stop playing it
@Andy-rf5jx11 ай бұрын
Sounds like after reading comments to level up naked
@jasonleejames_official6 жыл бұрын
Check the weapon scaling, that particular dual sword might scale better with heart(A) than with skill(B) or the spear might have an A in strength and a B in body.
@malpheus42996 жыл бұрын
No...all weapons have a fixed A scaling for their type. Spear will always have the best scaling with body for example. This is assuming your weapon is at LEAST divine of course, and 150+.
@simonrief101311 ай бұрын
Where can I the alphabetical rank?
@deafanddestructiononthepis31495 жыл бұрын
My opinion, put your points in Ki, Skill, Magic, Dexterity. Beucoup Magic, Ninjitsu, and Samurai skill points, while being able to maintain a constant stream of attack with all those moves unlocked. Max those and you'll be a maniac
@deafanddestructiononthepis31495 жыл бұрын
@@StaticBuzz i use tonfa, swords, and kusaragi or whatever it is. I found a bloody grave to farm but im doing 51 dex 26 skill 26 magic 33 heart 26 stamina 11 on the rest. Im not very far yet. High stance Tonfa are defo my favorite weapon in the game. Ruthless guard busting chains
@tylershephard40835 жыл бұрын
As Your number level increases the stat increase reward changes. Each stat reward changes in amount based off your number level. So you may get 2 atk when leveling body to 10 but nothing when you level to eleven. I feel it's based off your overall level what kind of reward that stat will get for leveling it
@daniloventura1125 жыл бұрын
Equipment will begin to scale with stats as you progress threw the game. The bonuses can be op'd if built as suggested by the tool tips. You won't find an odachi that scales with skill in the same way that you won't find a spear that scales with stamina.
@havelpants52484 жыл бұрын
Seems like body is a vital stat that adds to the effects of strength/dex etc
@doomguy54064 жыл бұрын
Body gives you more health, so it is very helpful for all builds.
@tradingpost4314 жыл бұрын
What’s happening is that the stat increases it shows are based on that stats weapon type. So when you add a level to skill, for example, and it shows +2 damage, that +2 damage is with weapons that scale off of that stat. In this case, dual swords. Adding that level will only increase dual swords damage. It won’t increase damage if you’re using a kusarigama.
@rezaxxx7 жыл бұрын
I noticed the exact same and have the same question. We are in the same boat I guess.
@shade64056 жыл бұрын
Y
@saeed82974 жыл бұрын
Im level 750 +250 focus level but i didnt understand yet
@ochonganokwu5 жыл бұрын
Levelling up in this game is unnecessarily complex. It's a freaking game, everything doesn't have to be too complicated
@crescentwolf70724 жыл бұрын
The game rewards those who pay attention, and it pretty much explains it pretty well if you take your time to learn it. When leveling up, if you pay attention to the chart on what what stat can provide on the chart to the right side of the screen as you toggle the switches, it explains what and how much you will get when you level those stats up. Best to try and toggle 1 level throughout all of the sliders.
@wes24693 жыл бұрын
at the end of the game I figured out that the magic and ninjitsu you use is just as important as what weapon and armor you use. they weren't kidding when they said at the very beginning, "death awaits..."
@StaticBuzz3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried Nioh 2? They double down on most things.
@joeyjones90413 жыл бұрын
I spent a day and a half farming Amrita and leveling my attributes up to 10 on the Isle of Demons before cheesing Onryoki with my living weopon. Once I got everything to 10, I did all my upgrades to Dexterity, my build is Sword/Kusarigama and I mainly use Kusarigama in low stance with some high stance occasionally and mid stance when there's multiple enemies. I think I have Dexterity at 15 right now, I'm a level 42 and just now opened up a ship and new section of the map. I just beat Edward Kelly on the main mission after the vampire chick Hino-Enma is her name I think. It took me a while to understand if I die, I lose my Guardian Spirit and all my Amrita, and what Amrita actually does. After I figured that out, I started farming Amrita.
@StaticBuzz3 жыл бұрын
You can get your amrita back, you have to make it back to where you died and the will be a grave that looks like you guardian spirit. If you die before getting to it, then it goes away and a new grave is created.
@charlierose6192 жыл бұрын
@@StaticBuzz so to level up we just train, farm rinse and repeat?
@StaticBuzz2 жыл бұрын
@@charlierose619 To level up yes, but don't forget to improve your gear as well.
@bigspeaker7814 жыл бұрын
At this point I just wish I had somebody to co-op with
@fernandoborges84724 жыл бұрын
I started yesterday an got a lot of help
@bigspeaker7814 жыл бұрын
@@fernandoborges8472 what's your psn let's play
@bigspeaker7814 жыл бұрын
@@StaticBuzz I need friends that play tho they only give you so many cups and when I summoning somebody they just go drown themselves
@godsreclamation25394 жыл бұрын
@@fernandoborges8472 I just started and I'm already level 58
@trajospete12964 жыл бұрын
Add me psn: TrajosPete Msg me when you want to co op
@89TStefan3 жыл бұрын
That's because every single attribute has a different kind of behavior towards your overall attributes. Let me make an example: I use a one-handed sword. Let's say, instead of my earlier used Kusanagi Tsurugi, I use now a Dragon sword. Since I have put some points not only in Heart but also in Strength, I'd do more damage than if I only have spent all my points in Heart. Why is that? First of all, every weapon will scale on different attributes. And while both weapons have a B+ towards Heart, the Kusanagi has a D+ towards strength, while the Dragon sword has a C. So while having spent some points, it really pays off. Secondly, every stat you level up has some sort of diminishing return. That means, the more points you spend on one single stat, the worse it pays off if the value is already pretty high. This is not only true for weapons, but also for your overall stats. For example Body: You get +30 health for your first point, which would mean from 5 to 6. However, at 11 and onwards, it is only +15 life. And, over the long term seen, it might be linear, but instead, it decreases because first, the enemies get much harder during midgame, so you would need to do a lot more damage, and secondly, a lot is also depending on your overall gear and performance. The same is true for every other stat as well. That's why a single-stat-based build is total bullshit. At least for early game, you need every stat at least at lvl 10, better would be 15. However, with 8 stats in total, that's at least 5 points spent per stat minus 2 on total, which you get from the start by choosing two weapons. This means you need to spend at least 38 Levels only for basics. However, everything can change a LOT once you reach divine tier items or higher. Some have really nice additional effects, and the scaling of the gear and your own stats make the difference between a build that barely survives and a build that kills everything single-handedly.
@baguih0073 жыл бұрын
Which one would be more rewarding in late game? More dps or longer life bar? I dont want to grind a boss that can oneshot me like the early game boss. Also would it be advisable to change build mid game? Like switching weapon and armour set
@TheLateral185 жыл бұрын
I just started playing I'm been leveling up strengh, stamina, magic, spirit, heart, body. I use, dual swords, spears, kusarigama and swords. As I increase stats. They ten to change, I been asking myself the same, what's the best way to increase stats, I been considering using the book of reincarnation
@AetherHaisen-xb8hl5 ай бұрын
Dude in darksouls there are softcaps and hard caps like 40lvls of str would be its soft cap means you gain 4 dmg per str until str40 After u get 2 until 60 and 60 will be hardcap
@crescentwolf70724 жыл бұрын
Small thing to mention, most dark souls players who play the game typically stop around at levels 120-130, and even lower if they planed on invading at certain soul level groups. The game caps at 800+ in most Dark Souls games if every stat were maxed out, so most players don't max out at 99 levels on every stat in dark souls, only the pve players do that. Unless you are talking about Dark Souls 3 with it's password summon mechanic. Then prepare to get nerfed kiddo.
@onearmedwolf65125 жыл бұрын
You definitely don't know souls leveling. 99 is very inefficient
@Jstaman4 жыл бұрын
Lol i think he was just using that as an example
@AsianVideoGamer4 жыл бұрын
Pump stuff into dex... Then spam kunais and spirit weapons. FTW. Oh get 10 magic for sloth
@superflyKi4 жыл бұрын
What the hell does gimping mean?
@tradingpost4314 жыл бұрын
What’s happening is that the stat increases it shows are based on that stats weapon type. So when you add a level to skill, for example, and it shows +2 damage, that +2 damage is with weapons that scale off of that stat. In this case, dual swords. Adding that level will only increase dual swords damage. It won’t increase damage with a kusarigama.
@MyLoco19846 жыл бұрын
Lol im on the same boat.. brought the game 3days ago and im also confused already hahahaha
@Henryvids14 жыл бұрын
This is the complexity of having Japanese developers
@abeld944 жыл бұрын
Unnecessary complexity
@astolenhotpocket133 жыл бұрын
99 onmyo and then 99 Dex then some heart for Ki and suffer
@Helios267 жыл бұрын
Now i'm totally confused 😣
@Helios267 жыл бұрын
Static Buzz Good idea 😄 i played nioh only since 2 days
@alvaromartinezbelmonte6 жыл бұрын
Each weapon scales better with a stat (I play katana, so heart). For the most damage output you need to Max that stat. Damage can scale with other stats, but not as much. Also, if you equip a different weapon the scaling is going to change too. So maybe you’re starting, say you have a katana with C scaling on heart. When you equip a different katana with... A in heart your attack is gonna get boosted if u invest ur points in heart. Other stats can also benefit ur attack, not as much but also benefit other stats such as ki, or Max gear weigh, ninjutsu, etc... body boosts your hp... the thing is... you have to think, do I need more attack? Do I have enough health? Need more Max gear weigh? Just 12 hours into the game but that’s how I see it.
@primallionheart53185 жыл бұрын
Gandalf El Gris I'm a magic guy, so it's all nonsense to me. Spirit and Magic is my thing, the more spells I can cast the more enemies I can destroy. And what I cannot destroy my Guardian Spirit will
@derrickwilliams91474 жыл бұрын
Thanks man that really helped me
@revfunk88236 жыл бұрын
This is hilarious
@JJShalashaska4 жыл бұрын
In Bloodborne I leveled up mostly life, stamina, and strength. But in Nioh I understood that magic is really very important . Leveling up Omnyo magic you can kill tough bosses in one minute
@seyo80684 жыл бұрын
So i should put it all in magic u say... hmm
@JJShalashaska4 жыл бұрын
@@seyo8068 no. I leveled mostly magic, skill and ninja abilities. My character is balanced. But magic is important and must not be forgotten. My approach is from close combat with kusarigama, but with a good magic you can have a little easier life against tough bosses
@seyo80684 жыл бұрын
@@JJShalashaska so how high should i go whit SP in magic... is about 20 ok?
@JJShalashaska4 жыл бұрын
@@seyo8068 I am level 111 And my character is like this Body :16 "heart" :25 "energy" :13 Strength : 10 Skill : 26 Ninjitsu : 16 Magic :27 Spirit :20 Like this i can kill many bosses in one minute using magic. It's good if you don't have much time to play like me. I use mostly kusarigama now, but in the first levels I used Axe a lot, especially on human bosses
@seyo80684 жыл бұрын
@@JJShalashaska tnx for that man. Will Try it.. habe beaten my 4th Boss now. Got the game from psplus membership for free, was thinkin to buy it anyways so it came out very Well for me whit nioh. Im using Single katana and Spear..
@cryptoooooohgaga71844 жыл бұрын
Get *everything* to 10. Then work on your Skills. It would help a lot to know what build you're doing but you'll even everything at 99 anyways. What *I* use is Sword & Kusarigama & I am level 66. I used a book to reset my points. I put a lot of thought into my points cus my build had my ❤️ @ 21 & everything at 12. Didn't work. One hit from an axe killed me or one hit from boss. So I redid & this is my build: 14-15*-12-15-15*-10-14. The * is ❤️ (Sword) & DEX (Kusarigama). Everything needs to be 10 to get the Dojo Missions, even Magic. And that is as far as I go 🤣 but I do know that other Dojo missions open after other levels.
@cryptoooooohgaga71844 жыл бұрын
@@StaticBuzz hello! can you please tell me how to get the Sloth Talismant? My build is 14-15*-15-12-15-15*-10-14 [* is ❤️ (Sword) & DEXTERITY (Kusarigama)]. I am level 68 in the KinKI region. Thanks! I am doing Spider Nest Castle right now.
@cryptoooooohgaga71844 жыл бұрын
@@StaticBuzz hello! Thank you for the reply! I'm really grateful for the advice. I am excellent 😎 at the Sword & Kusarigama, even ki pulse weapon switches. Right now I'm at Spider Castle & leveled up Body & Spirit to 15. My onmyo is 10. I have searched everywhere & there was a patch 😫😫😫 I'm on version 1.22 & Reddit is slow polluted that people don't even know elemental damage actually affects enemies.
@cryptoooooohgaga71844 жыл бұрын
@@StaticBuzz you were wrong btw. I am onmyo magic 10 & no Sloth.
@godzd3ception1184 жыл бұрын
I went for stamina,the skills tht help my weapons become stronger and helped with health and ki tbh I say it’s all in preference to how u wanna play.if u look at your weapon and it says A thats best the skill u put into tht specific weapon will help it.im only level 70 btw
@InconsistentOwl3 жыл бұрын
its funny how im 10 levels above the mission recomended level and i still do barely any damage
@StaticBuzz3 жыл бұрын
Check your gear, Nioh is part character building and part Gear building. Also, skills help a bunch too.
@InconsistentOwl3 жыл бұрын
@@StaticBuzz im running a red demon spear build my armors are 115+ each is that good enough?
@StaticBuzz3 жыл бұрын
@@InconsistentOwl You were talking damage, even though armor can help, your weapon is more important for that. Also, are you unlocking your spear skills?
@InconsistentOwl3 жыл бұрын
@@StaticBuzz yes i focused on sword and spear skills because of my build do you recomend i should level up more ?
@StaticBuzz3 жыл бұрын
@@InconsistentOwl That is hard to say. I don't think I fully understand what is going on. Did you hit a wall? Can't get passed a boss? Leveling only helps in the small ways.
@lmjames336 жыл бұрын
Not a dark souls game bro
@sagitswag17852 жыл бұрын
0:23 thats not even correct. Nobody pumped mainstat to 99 XD
@StaticBuzz2 жыл бұрын
Geez, how many times do I have to say this. It was an example, not a suggestion.
@matjakobs8612 Жыл бұрын
Level system is absolute trash. Nobody knows what's going on. TRASH!!!!!
@mattisonspurlin58346 жыл бұрын
not rocket science
@Galphor6 жыл бұрын
then explain it to us
@D00MTR336 жыл бұрын
All weapons scale with 3 stats. 1 primary and 2 support. You want to kinda balance your leveling depending on your build. Plus later on you can forge/reforge your weapon to get better scaling of your primary star or another star or familiarity or equip burden. Early on it's not a huge deal what you level, level up your "primary" stats, get some spirit and go from there. Plus you can always respec if need be.
@cyanson716 жыл бұрын
Than explain it genius, or shut up and keep your comment to yourself.