Here’s some time stamps 0:00 intro/sample footage 0:32 first thoughts 1:05 image quality 3:50 vintage vs clean lenses 4:32 sponsored by crdbag 5:45 Caleb’s thoughts on the lenses 6:51 compared to Dzofilm 10:14 build quality 14:32 focus throw 15:30 where you can watch projects 15:58 availability 16:38 conclusion
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
Bless you 🙌🏽
@MunksTT10 ай бұрын
Love that you showcased the 14mm! Just picked up an 14mm and noticed there’s not a lot of content properly showcasing them. Thanks for the tasty content as always 🙏🏻
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
More to come! It's really my favorite and the 85mm!
@waveland10 ай бұрын
From my testing today on the Blackmagic full frame, the Fotodiox Pl-L adapter has plenty of clearance for the rear element. And after my brief hands on, I ordered the set. Sounds like it will be about 10 days. What I will say is this. For the size, weight and price, these lenses left me speechless-and I can almost always find some image issue to be a little cranky about. Not these. For my usual work these will be great. And for larger productions where you want to have a crash lens on a rig, these can be matched with lenses 10 or 20 times the price.
@Shxdow.Entertainment9 ай бұрын
I love the look of the Athena’s, I hope they come out with more focal lengths or even a macro. Caleb said something about a 135mm I think and I’m excited to that. Also for anyone wondering about an adapter that will definitely work with that PL rear element, Nisi actually makes their own for the lenses. Loved this vid 😂
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
Yeah I mentioned that in the video. Totally worth picking up a nisi adapter
@tobiasfalk911210 ай бұрын
Seriously the best lens review I've seen on YT.
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
🥹🥹🥹
@iamkubrick10 ай бұрын
Great review mate. I was lucky enough to shot with the 50 and 35 - they’re excellent. I used it on a DSMC2 dragon sensor with a carbon OLPF from kippertie… and I could have sworn it was an ARRI signature on the camera haha.
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
Bro right?! I was going to make my title that haha the budget arri signature primes or ultra primes
@collinausbury6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video, so clean! Appreciate your perspective on vintage. Subbed.
@CineDailies6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@bjarkisteinnpetursson973610 ай бұрын
4:04 I actually did think that about The Last of Us. I personally thought a dirtier, more vintage feeling lens would have suited that show incredibly well. But I know why they went with the lenses they did and respect that decision.
@lawrencegress98318 сағат бұрын
Great points. Making the case to try them.
@ancilm10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the full review. I just got my RF MT set from Adorama today...they don't disappoint.
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
Love to hear it! Now go make dope work
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
I didn't get a chance to add time stamps. Could some give it a go? 🙇🏽🙏🏽
@philrodfilms10 ай бұрын
L mount pre order live today! I’m so happy. Your video must’ve summoned it haha. Thanks for the vid!
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
Awesome!!
@scottmh9 ай бұрын
it really is a shame that that rear element sticks out so far. Having the ability to use a speed booster on super35mm cameras like the Komodos, black magics etc would have been a uge plus. Also those rear VND lens adaptors are great. Besides that, they look perfect
@Artfulscience118 күн бұрын
Literally the deal breaker for me…gonna save up for the Arles instead
@NanaMisa8410 ай бұрын
This was very useful, I agree 100% that sometimes we use the vintage look as a crutch ( I have to admit I have been guilty of this of late). I shot something recently with DZO Vespids which I love, but how ever, what I was filming was at an art gallery and when I was editing the footage, I felt that the softer look of the Vespid did not allow the art work to look as sharp/pop as I would like. Will defiantly check these out as I feel they will be great for certain projects
@boxfishfilm9 ай бұрын
I really hope they do come out with a (then) bigger version which doesn't extend the rear to make it compatible with the various ND Mounts or Adapters. I would love to order these for our Monstro with the Breakthrough Filter Mount but the missing compatibility is sadly a deal breaker :/
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
Rough.🤷🏽♂️ so no mattebox as an option
@boxfishfilm9 ай бұрын
in theory yes as we got a fill ND Set etc. but nothing beats the flexibility of a good VND in Camera. Sadly :/ (and sometimes space requirements as well)@@CineDailies
@fauland_photography9 ай бұрын
Very nice, indeapth review. I am getting my hands on a set during an event in Vienna. Right now I am considering a DZO wide angle pictor zoom and one or two Athenas for my ongoing project....
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
Interesting choice to mix the set, whats the reasoning? I'm curious.
@fauland_photography9 ай бұрын
@@CineDailies The film is Architecture Related and is documenting a special photo project I was working on for now 2 years. For tight spaces, the dzo wide angle gives me the flexibility to get what I want. I do not mind the "slight vintage-ish" look. For some other more overall shots, I am tempted to try the more clean look of the Nisi Athenas ... :-)
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
@@fauland_photography awesome! Hope it turns out amazing
@MarcusRFilms10 ай бұрын
Looooooove these reference shots bro! Nice work!!!!!
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
Appreciate it my dawg
@FilmedbyFresh10 ай бұрын
Ooooo these look nice 👍🏾 dope video bro
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
🙌🏽🙌🏽 yessir - super happy with this investment
@KarlWeinreich10 ай бұрын
First! Great content!
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
Ayyyeeee
@VishnuAttiappan10 ай бұрын
0.19 That Llama just winked at us.
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
I'm glad you caught that! Hahah
@VishnuAttiappan9 ай бұрын
@@CineDailies That wink was personal 🤣
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
@@VishnuAttiappan sexy llama hahha
@VishnuAttiappan9 ай бұрын
@@CineDailies 😆
@REDEpicGuy7 ай бұрын
I've arranged for a special deal on these lenses with Nisi!! 20 sets avail at a BIG percentage off!!!
@CineDailies7 ай бұрын
20 sets?!??
@REDEpicGuy7 ай бұрын
@@CineDailiesyea 20 sets at a big discount 😊
@leeevans18749 ай бұрын
Listen to any Deakins clips on lenses , he likes em as sharp and as clean and flair free as possible .
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
Yep he does. Wait are ppl getting confused about my Deakins reference? Or you get what I'm saying? 😅
@leeevans18749 ай бұрын
@@CineDailies just adding to the fact , most top end dps use "tight" glass they've spent a lifetime getting away from CA and flair . Sometimes "vintage " feels are quite literally dead cats to the reality what they are shooting its poorly lit and lack control in production design .
@dp_zee9 ай бұрын
It's easy to dirty up a lens.. either filtration or post... But it's not easy to go the other way
@leeevans18749 ай бұрын
@@dp_zee my sentiments exactly
@takuran9 ай бұрын
I knew it was the claw as soon as I heard the first 20ms of that laugh 2:03
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@nealhope61279 ай бұрын
These are giving me a bit of Vista Prime Vibes.
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
Yessss i forgot to mentioned them!
@JakubChlouba10 ай бұрын
I better startr saving for these hahaha! :D Thanks for the great review brother
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching fam!
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
I have a CRDBAG giveaway happening on my Instagram! Enter to get a care package from me!
@thedualexchange10 ай бұрын
great content as always!
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Means a lot
@PeterDiBussolo10 ай бұрын
Beautiful sample shots! Makes me want to ditch my rokinon dsx and get these.
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
this would be a MASSIVE upgrade over the rokinons lol
@XLOWLIFE9 ай бұрын
@@CineDailiesjust convinced me to get them
@YOUAREMYKIN10 ай бұрын
Great to see your review! Q: Did you use some diffusion on the shots at 15:12 to 15:20 in Peru, or does the lens bloom like that? Thanks 🙏
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
The lens blooms like that! No diffusion
@RecWaltfilm11 күн бұрын
just a dumb question, if you wanna a clinical look, why dont buy a photography hibrid lens instead? Like sony gmaster lenses.
@CineDailies10 күн бұрын
A photo lens will never give you the same precision as a cinema lens for focusing. Also, photo lenses breath, are flat and little expression. Clinical has a bad rep
@JeremiahBostwick5 ай бұрын
Been hopping from video to video trying to find out if the PL versions will clear a Kippertie Revolva or not. CVP noted that the Mofage Poco does not clear.
@kevin358758 ай бұрын
I would like to ask you all, I am using the Sony E-mount system, currently shooting motion pictures mainly, events, weddings and documentary scenes, and would like to try my first movie lens to shoot creative types of content, so I would like to just buy a nisi athena. I've been working in TV for over 5 years and I've used broadcast camera lenses, and I don't have too much trouble with manual focusing and controlling the aperture. I would like to ask you all, if I only buy one, do you recommend a fixed focal length lens? The focal lengths I currently have are 1. 16-35Gm Sony 2. 28-75 Tamron (spare) 3. 35-150 Tamron 4. 50GM Sony 5. 150-600 SIGMA Currently I'm most interested in the nisi athena 25 & 50mm, but it's a duplicate of what I have now, so is the 35mm the best objective choice? Thanks for the replies!
@pramodh3610 ай бұрын
14mm is incredible ❤
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
Yo it really is
@jordanadudek8 ай бұрын
Hey man! This is a wonderful review. It looks like the Module 8 tuner won’t work with this. What’s the rear thread size for screwing on filters?
@WAYPASTWRAP6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video - I'm considering these lenses. Why did you go with PL vs e-mount? Is it because you are shooting on different cameras? Is it because, maybe, they are more of a rentable?
@CineDailies6 ай бұрын
thanks for watching - PL is a universal mount, so I yes can use it on any camera that has a pl mount or adapter
@whateverjustposting9 ай бұрын
im thinking im going to try and pick a set up to pair with that module 8 k35 tuner. clean look when i need it and something more stylized with the tuner if i want that
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
Its not going to work. The Module8 is know for EF lenses at the moment
@charliebarkhorn80729 ай бұрын
Great review! Was there any vignetting when using the PL-E-Mount adapter on the FX6?
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! And no vignetting!
@dp_zee9 ай бұрын
People keep comparing these to signatures... They aren't like signatures at all.. not in look or feel. Signatures in feel are big and light weight, they feel composite almost, they also feel a lot better in the focus ring. Signatures are also warmer (not cool warm, but warmer than Zeiss and warmer than these) If I were to compare to a high end lens, I'd say it's closer to the Leica summicron-c in look and in size
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
Ok
@srs86158 ай бұрын
Athena + Laowa 1.33x + GFX100 VERTICAL ??
@factor320827 күн бұрын
What lens did you use for you studio shoot?. Thanks
@CineDailies25 күн бұрын
I believe its my viltrox 13mm for xmount
@tijmenbrouwers8 ай бұрын
About the extending back element. Do you have any idea if there is a difference between the amount of extension between the different lenses that you have? In the Nisi Athena facebook group I red that someone tested these lenses with the Meike PL drop in filter mount. He (Ronald Lee) said that only one lens gave problems. Would love to know which ones would work with this combo, but he hasn't updated his post.
@stuartswindellcampoy84835 ай бұрын
I think the 25-14mm do extend further than the rest.
@Mat69MX7 ай бұрын
if you could have just 1 lens of the nisi athena lineup, super 35 like sony a6700, which would you take? idk cause the crop of the apcs.. 30? 50? 85? idk
@CineDailies7 ай бұрын
I love the 14mm - you can get some really creative shots. But if you want just a standard lens, the 25 or 35
@Lensrentals10 ай бұрын
nah those NiSi's schmack! The flares aren't that awful and that 14mm is a doc shooters dream
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
The 14mm is a beauty
@Sweetnuglyproductions7 ай бұрын
Actually I do sometime think that the image is too clear
@wan-chengchiang97719 ай бұрын
When comparing Wooden Camera PL-XF to SIURI PL-E(10:32~11:25), does NiSi ATHENA operate normally?
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
The Athens don't work with the siuri PL mounts as shown in the clip. The wooden camera PL adpators operate as normal
@binaryinfections10 ай бұрын
I have to stop watching your videos.....youre making me spend too much lol !! love this review and those rubber things definitely getting
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
LOL
@binaryinfections9 ай бұрын
@@CineDailiesI really love your content man ! Keep it going !
@lmcvision9 ай бұрын
tnx mate!
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
Welcome!
@noranoskyle44173 ай бұрын
which sizes would you suggest me to get first for documentary?
@noranoskyle44173 ай бұрын
I need one for landscape, one for two or more people in a scene, and one for up close like head and shoulder shots. I need to keep my budget around $4k
@CineDailies3 ай бұрын
If you're on s35 or full frame - 18mm, 25mm, 50mm
@noranoskyle44173 ай бұрын
@@CineDailies why not 85 mm? i understand 25 mm or 50mm but wouldn't 18mm stretch the scenery or environment too much?
@askomiko2 ай бұрын
Is the focus hard stop at far end anywhere near proper infinity focus?
@CineDailies2 ай бұрын
Yes all cine lenses have hard stops. For close focus and infinity focus
@askomikoАй бұрын
@@CineDailies But its not actually at infinity, but way past infinity?
@CineDailiesАй бұрын
@@askomiko this is common yet various from lens to lens
@richardweddle34087 ай бұрын
Can these be adapted to EF mount? My Blackmagic 6K Pro is EF mount.
@CineDailies7 ай бұрын
I'll confirm once I get may hands on a specific piece of gear.
@Velspire9 ай бұрын
I'm about to buy these, I cant decide PL or e mount? HELP 😭
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
P L you can put on more cameras. Emount is only for emount cameras
@westdk67058 ай бұрын
Hi 👋 ! Nisi 35mm on Fujifilm becomes round 50mm ??
@CineDailies8 ай бұрын
Field of view. Yes
@bkddop8 ай бұрын
how is the autofocus? on sony
@CineDailies8 ай бұрын
These are manual lenses….
@reljapetrovicmusic9 ай бұрын
Do you still use Viltrox 13mm 1.4?
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
it was stolen, I need to buy another one. I miss that lens
@whatisagent562910 ай бұрын
Which Filter Brand and thread size did you use that screwed onto the 14?
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
It's the moment VND - but its in silver ha
@whatisagent562910 ай бұрын
Thanks. Was it a 77mm filter thread like the rest?@@CineDailies
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
@@whatisagent5629 yessir it is!
@whatisagent562910 ай бұрын
Thanks again.@@CineDailies
@LoremIpsumProd9 ай бұрын
The production still hardly catches up with demand yet btw
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
For a few lenses. But b&h and adorama has stock
@LMDunnam10 ай бұрын
Yuuurrrrrrr! 😂
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
yurrrrrrrr LOL
@othellobanaci10 ай бұрын
😈😈😈 heat
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
🙇🏽🙇🏽🙇🏽
@SNM4449 ай бұрын
YUR
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
YURRR
@kunalsolanki63213 ай бұрын
2:01 LMAO
@CineDailies3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@UriRa9 ай бұрын
Compare with Laowa and forget about Nisi) What fascinates you is not clear. Only if the appearance...
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
What?
@UriRa9 ай бұрын
@@CineDailies, I thought about purchasing them until I saw the filming. Full frame. It’s not so noticeable on your crop and the shots shown were taken in a high degree of illumination, this levels it out a little, although there is nothing inspiring in these shots.
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
@@UriRa I still don't know what you're talking about
@mittaw9 ай бұрын
You know Roger Deakins never shot Anamorphic? Let that sink in.
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
Well yeah, he said that in his podcast. anamorphic lenses don’t fit his philosophy.
@mittaw9 ай бұрын
@@CineDailies I didn't know until a co-worker told me haha. My mind was blown.
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
@@mittaw he likes it cleaannnn hahah
@dominiccole8 ай бұрын
yeah I also prefer to sleep on DIRTY cine lenses. Clean ones are just a bit to slippery to get a good nights sleep.
@konstantinosstag64369 ай бұрын
Irix guys. Thats what people sleep on.
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
Nah. I haven't seent anything good from them
@konstantinosstag64369 ай бұрын
@@CineDailies I am interested to know more. If you have used them, do expand. I am researching lens choices and these two (nisi and irix) are the most interesting prospects. None is perfect but with the exception of the still very few focal lengths of the irix why would you say they are not good?
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
@@konstantinosstag6436 It's just a personal preference. If they check your boxes and you can make them look good, my opinion doesn't matter.
@konstantinosstag64369 ай бұрын
@@CineDailies Well yes obviously its my decision. But i cant rent them here in Greece. I have to buy one and see for myself, so if someone who has used them has something to say, i will listen. On paper they seem to check all the boxes and the reason i think people are not excited is that they are not a full set and their release plan doesn't make sense marketing wise. Optically though i cant seem to find any negative reviews, hence why i asked. Thank you in amy case.
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
I hear you. and unfortunately I dont have the time to review any all and all things. I never liked the look of the Irix lenses. Ive seen weird bokeh patters, unpleasing CA, and the claim of being a high quality lens doesn't match up.
@topdop10 ай бұрын
Gerolsteiner WTF
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
Huh?
@topdop10 ай бұрын
That waterbottle, it's Gerolsteiner. Sprudelwasser from Germany (did not know they sell german water to the US!!). Besides that, thanks for the well done review-video :) @@CineDailies
@CineDailies10 ай бұрын
@@topdop ohhhhh hahaha I was so confused! Yes trader jobs sells a pack of 20!!
@topdop10 ай бұрын
crazy little world @@CineDailies
@fauland_photography9 ай бұрын
The Gerolsteiner water comes out of the mountains 15 mins from where I live in the black forest (southern Germany). I was very surprised to see that on your desk....
@psk3059 ай бұрын
Back Ordered like fckkkkkkkk 🙃
@CineDailies9 ай бұрын
For which mount? B&H has stock
@psk3059 ай бұрын
@@CineDailies RF mount. I am not looking to get the entire set; I wanted to start with the 35mm, which is back-ordered. I have DJI RS3 PRO with the lidar, so I went with the new DZO vespid CYBER primes, which don't need calibration. I love the nisi look and will return when they are in stock.