More than a dozen people were hurt when a ride malfunctioned at Six Flags Great Adventure on Thursday night. CBS2's Elijah Westbrook spoke exclusively with a park employee who is familiar with the ride's operations.
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@frankyworldwide2 жыл бұрын
I like how the worker contradicted himself. Maintenance try’s to fix it and it keeps coming back and then later maintenance doesn’t do anything about it.
@mrz1009 Жыл бұрын
i have heard from six flags workers that the maintenance team is not that great and they really did not do anything about it
@theblackhood4812 Жыл бұрын
No contradiction, what he was saying was it’s a lingering issue and even though they’ve attempted to correct it, it keeps coming back, pretty much like filling in a pothole when it needs to be completely repaved, temporary solutions never get the job done
@frankyworldwide Жыл бұрын
@@theblackhood4812 Trying to fix it and doing nothing is a contradiction. Now it seems like it wasn’t even a track issue. That’s why I took it with a grain of salt. I just thought it was funny in the same interview he said maintenance tries, and maintenance doesn’t so anything.
@officialbeebos Жыл бұрын
The day the incident happened, I had ridden it four times with my cousin, and we both noticed it was incredibly rougher. Luckily that was around 3 o'clock, but seriously hoping it doesn't close because El Toro is one of the best rollercoasters ever.
@Kalezionn Жыл бұрын
I agree
@oliveywolevy2376 Жыл бұрын
i love el toro ♥️ it’s my fav ride
@Chronically_JBoo Жыл бұрын
Why cant they rebuild it with the same exact turns n such? Or is this a park maintenance issue?
@officialbeebos Жыл бұрын
@@Chronically_JBoo It's expensive to tear down rides. And a coaster of El Toro's size? Forget about it. It'd be way too much money for them to tear down, plus SFGA would lose a lot of traffic if they removed arguably their best coaster. Recently I read something about them fixing the pothole soon, but a scheduled reopening isn't in place yet. It came out that employees KNEW about the pothole, and they kept telling maintenance about it, and they didn't so anything about and the pothole got worse and now an incident happened; all because maintenance was lazy, I'm guessing. So, they need to really crack down on maintenance, because especially for a wooden coaster, it needs constant checkups and care. Thankfully it isn't that the coaster is faulty and just maintenances fault, but still. Hoping once it reopens this doesn't happen again, and maintenance get their act together.
@johnsk89672 жыл бұрын
i went on this ride 2 weeks ago and it was super rough, more rough than it should
@davidperry40132 жыл бұрын
El Toro needs a re-track and reprofile as well as trains that have seats that are fully padded and are tolerant of track degradation. Padded seats act like shock absorbers to the human body on wooden coasters.
@alecvip75622 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Hopefully selim decides to purchase the newer intamin prefab track and fully retracks the ride instead of bandaiding it. I just really hope nj doesn't force toro to be drastically changed.
@goldstarchoice2 жыл бұрын
Didnt RMC do the track on El Toro?
@NickyD2 жыл бұрын
@@goldstarchoice they heped built it the track came from intamin
@NickyD2 жыл бұрын
@@alecvip7562 lol no chance he would remove it
@NickyD2 жыл бұрын
its not evena true wooden coaster second i doubt it ever reopens
@KnightOfNoches11 күн бұрын
El Toro is still very painful it gave me a head trauma
@alecvip75622 жыл бұрын
This coaster will stay, however it definitely needs a full retracking. As an employee myself, I noticed this ride got significantly rougher in the last 2 weeks compared to a month ago, where it was way smoother.
@CSManiac332 жыл бұрын
It just got a whole new retrack last year too after the derail last year.
@quaintguy97002 жыл бұрын
I think I saw you in another coment section. are you the person talking about how unfortunate it was that selim cancled the giga?
@alecvip75622 жыл бұрын
@@CSManiac33 it wasn't fully retracked last year
@alecvip75622 жыл бұрын
@@quaintguy9700 yeah
@quaintguy97002 жыл бұрын
@@alecvip7562 do you know how six flags planned to pay for the attraction? If it was so tall it doesnt sound like something six flags would do. Is it related to the new ceo's love of great adventure?
@gotdrama2740 Жыл бұрын
This happened last week also
@deanvm91582 жыл бұрын
News like this can hurt the entire amusement park industry. They need to be absolutely on top of maintenance and safety. It could have been worse. 🇵🇭
@gstevens69482 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@jbw99992 жыл бұрын
There are four coasters like this, and all but one (that we know of) has had recent track issues and has often been closed for a period of time. One of them, Colossus at Heide Park in Germany, got a full track replacement in 2019.
@jay-dubb.dubb.682 жыл бұрын
Do you know how long Colossus was in operation before they did the re-track? Enquiring minds want to know... 🙈🙉🙊
@jbw99992 жыл бұрын
@@jay-dubb.dubb.68 It opened in 2001, but was closed from July 2016 to April 2019. So about 15 years before needing work, like El Toro it seems.
@jay-dubb.dubb.682 жыл бұрын
@@jbw9999 Thank you for the reply... I hope El Toro gets the retracking or RMC treatment it deserves...
@jbw99992 жыл бұрын
@@jay-dubb.dubb.68 I certainly hope it stays with the same track design, and not RMC'd. It's the only Intamin prefab woody in the US, and is usually voted the best wooden coaster in the US. It used to be very smooth too. My only visit was in 2010, and it was still smooth then. Seems the problem is lack of experienced maintenance staff at the park now. FYI, the other two are Balder at Liseberg in Sweden, and T-Express at Everland in South Korea.
@NickyD2 жыл бұрын
@@jay-dubb.dubb.68 it was 15 years before issues happned toro is now 16 so yeah the prefabs lifespans are obviuolsy 15 years
@3005lives4you2 жыл бұрын
Dude just basically stated that SF has been negligent. You could possibly see some lawsuits could out because of this.
@ahyes5892 жыл бұрын
Not looking too good for the company either especially with their new CEO who's business model is quite literally "cut all spending to increase profits"
@NickyD2 жыл бұрын
wrong they havnt said if it as SF fault yet or a desgin flaw from intamin yet idk why a worker is even talking to the news he def getting fired
@chadfritz9722 Жыл бұрын
He has no credibility, IMO. 1 second he says they've tried to fix it and the next second, he's said they've done nothing. Just someone talking to hear himself talking.
@massachusettscoasters2 жыл бұрын
Thank god I rode this 4 months prior this accident happened
@patlynch6517 Жыл бұрын
Yeah my spouse and I rode it 4 months ago, and it was ok. Six Flags doesn’t need the bad publicity.
@Perich29 Жыл бұрын
They need to put suspension on the trainset.
@rishdawg96182 жыл бұрын
One the hell is up all of a sudden we are getting all these accidents on rides all at once
@kendallandrews2012 жыл бұрын
I hope it stays the same just with better supports and RMC i-box track. That thing will be glass smooth and possibly faster
@bigboi2286 Жыл бұрын
This ride needs to close. It alrleady derailed once reccently and now this.
@mayhemmike1789 Жыл бұрын
Glad I was at Hurricane Harbor THAT day!
@brandstradamus Жыл бұрын
Just buff it out....everything will be a okay after that.
@flowerpink332 жыл бұрын
These rides are to dangerous to not have regular maintenance. Periodt. It’s not Disneyland rides, and people have gotten hurt over there when their parents weren’t watching
@triple7marc2 жыл бұрын
They are not dangerous in the slightest. Do an ounce of research before making stupid comments.
@dianebrice47722 жыл бұрын
If they have had some issues this should of been evaluated prior to operating. And as with any coasters, especially wooden ones they need up keep, most often retracking.
@k9feces2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe they ran it when it was so rough, especially after the derail
@SeanBJr2 жыл бұрын
El toro should become a rmc hybrid with a new layout. I could see it topping steel vengeance if they do it right
@ryanquick002 жыл бұрын
I remember I rode it when it first opened and it was so smooth probably one of the best rides I’ve ever been on then a couple years later when I wrote it again it was so rough I couldn’t even enjoy
@Fuentes90752 жыл бұрын
RMC El Toro. My favorite ride for years. I can only imagine if they RMC it
@Kalezionn Жыл бұрын
Fr
@cheesethrower2 жыл бұрын
Ride-ops throwing maintenance under the bus here lol
@michaeltaylor16032 жыл бұрын
UNDER da BUS! Unfortunately for whistleblowers (lose their job, but gone b4 catastrophe happens) Six Flags, don't deja vu back to the mid 80's when the park almost closed due to those 2 incidents.
@Mrimpact20112 жыл бұрын
Wow. Lawsuits with good Attorneys and settle based on your injury's.
@ilikecheesegirlXP Жыл бұрын
I'm almost impressed they called it a prefabricated rollercoaster
@hiphop77712 жыл бұрын
Crazy I was on it the day before
@sentinel151 Жыл бұрын
And they have the audacity to want to raise prices with these tore up rides.
@johnjzak93392 жыл бұрын
EL TORO needs to be RMCd. Tha t would be a sick ride for the 2023 season
@shadowlerker2 жыл бұрын
No it doesn't. The issue just needs to be permanently fixed and El Toro remain as is
@NickyD2 жыл бұрын
@@shadowlerker goo chance park is gonna take another risk with toro good chance it gets rmc or tear down choose one also rmc track is made for what toro is toro always should have been rmc to begin with
@shadowlerker2 жыл бұрын
@@NickyD I think a retrack is the way to go weather they call RMC for it or not. I don't think El Toro is old enough or lost enough luster so I'm against it being fully "RMC'd". It's my favorite coaster in the park and one of my favorite of all time.
@nathanthompson48422 жыл бұрын
First of all if the employee notice something wrong with the ride then why did it open and if the maintenance knew about it then why did they open it. That’s one reason I like DOLLYWOOD if something is wrong with a ride it will remain closed until it get fix and no one will ride it until everything is totally safe for operations.
@lucusrose27622 жыл бұрын
As I wrote in a previous post, there is a lot of pressure to keep the "marquee" rides running. The first question an operator will get, if they call in an observation, is, "Do you need to shutdown"? Puts the pressure on the operator to disappoint guests and kill throughput. And many of these operators are in their teens and making those decisions are hard enough for adults.
@nicholasfield61272 жыл бұрын
Same with any Cedar Fair Park. Ride safety is #1 priority.
@nicholasfield61272 жыл бұрын
@@lucusrose2762 when I worked at Cedar Fair when you called in a concern they told you to shut the ride down instead of asked you if it needed to be shut down. And they sent maintenance out immediately to inspect it and make sure everything was safe to reopen or if it needed repairs.
@jeremycovelli2 жыл бұрын
Maybe next time get an employee who actually knows something.
@Kalezionn Жыл бұрын
Love el toro :(
@marimarujaa78182 жыл бұрын
Went to six flags last year unfortunately it would be my last the park needs a lot of maintenance i main a lot from rides, paint, upkeep to its buildings, very disheartening as Great Adventure was amazing back in the day…
@theangryfireball1023 Жыл бұрын
They need to take the time necessary to fix it. Colossus in Germany took 3 years to fix. This ride may need the similar treatment.
@juniortrucker33892 жыл бұрын
I don’t believe it’s an actual employee. Just a faker who wants his fame.
@jonny-b49542 жыл бұрын
I guess in theory a pothole is a separation of track from structure or it's ledger. But, it's more a dip in the running track... If anything, it's a sinking support structure or ledger (horizontal members track is connected to and that is then connected to support structure) or one that can't handle the forces and is bowing under the pressure. Remember, 3 g's found in the valleys of the ride means a 20k pound train weighs 60k pounds. This is clearly Six Flags being cheap. I'm pretty sure most of the other coasters of this same model of wooden Intamin pre-fab coaster (4 exist) has had it's track replaced/re-tracked in recent years They are all about the same age (opened 2001,2003,2006,2008 the 4 opened) and at that point in their life cycle where a the re-track is the logical course of action as problems add up over the years. These are SUPER intense wooden coasters that exert a lot more forces than classic wooden coasters. This is Six Flags, as always (especially under their new greedy, penny pinching CEO) going the cheap route. 2:10 That statement means jack shit when they literally just did that exact same thing a few months ago from another accident. Needs a full re-tracking. Absolutely no getting around it.
@NickyD2 жыл бұрын
wrong this isnt a six flags issue this is a known issue on intmains prefabs every single one thats around the world two have been closed for years because of major issues toro is 16 the other two with issues snot in america were 15
@jonny-b49542 жыл бұрын
@@NickyD Maybe you're right. But I wouldn't be surprised if Six Flag's cheap maintenance in recent years didn't contribute. I mean, 2 crashes in 1 year basically? They are the owners of the ride, they are supposed to see problems coming and fix them. And they supposedly did, just recently after 1st accident. But, like I'm suspecting, they went cheap with the repairs needed to truly bring it up to where a park like... say Disney or Cedar Point would want the ride. But yeah, I've personally thought the pre-fab idea was a bad one. Wooden coasters simply shouldn't be that forceful, if you ask me. It hasn't really ever worked out from what I've seen. Son of Beast. All these having issues etc.
@brybryguy63142 жыл бұрын
Again. More and more issues are cropping up with these intamin coasters. They are definitely not aging well at all.
@liddykat Жыл бұрын
Wooden Rollercoasters already mess up your back , I can't imagine how that must have felt.
@clonetrooper99722 жыл бұрын
RMC it
@lordap3302 жыл бұрын
Six flags bout to interrogate every employee to search for who ever spoke to the press 😂
@BrothaEwh2 жыл бұрын
He got fired today
@Biosynthnut2 жыл бұрын
Have Intamin retrack the section.
@Cccoast Жыл бұрын
well that worker will never work there again lol
@Mike__P2 жыл бұрын
Please. Rolling Thunder was a horrible coaster, and someone even died on it in the 80s. It reopened and nobody complained because people weren't pansies back then.
@EngineerCatPyro2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct. What a rough ride that thing was. The person who died was a park employee who apparently was not locked in.
@coolboss9992 жыл бұрын
It just went through a whole process last year and now will have to again this year. El Toro don't give up on us now 😮💨
@TheRealJohnJ102 жыл бұрын
Money Grab. My neck my back, My neck and my back!
@kp007__2 жыл бұрын
Six flags is falling apart
@xygomorphic44 Жыл бұрын
This incident is probably the final nail in the coffin for Intamin Prefabs. They were already known for being maintenance nightmares and suffering from premature wear requiring expensive retracks.
@netty12212 жыл бұрын
Six Flags sucks
@Lucky_9705 Жыл бұрын
El Toro needs a complete retrack and reprofiling. The wood is clearly rotting and degrading. Colossus and Balder got the same treatment and they are running smoother than ever.
@acidreign1482 Жыл бұрын
Still the safest form of transportation ever created. I bet more people died in car wrecks going to amusement parks on the same day than got injured on that ride.
@lilostitch82202 жыл бұрын
They had a whole year to overlook the entire ride as they were fixing the part that got damaged from the derailment, they shouldve had 3 crews and inspectors looking iver the whole track... laziness
@drinny262 жыл бұрын
Didn’t it used to be calling “rolling thunder”?
@Mike__P2 жыл бұрын
No. Rolling thunder was there forever and was 10x rougher than this and nobody complained because people weren't pansies back then.
@skybeee2 жыл бұрын
Wow
@Packerm87 Жыл бұрын
I worked on this ride when it opened. Lol. I know so much about it.
@ofclshn2 жыл бұрын
Very unprofessional for whichever employee acted as a spokesperson for the park speaking nothing but speculation.
@PresidentialXBL2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@gyption2 жыл бұрын
bruh he literally operates the ride.
@lucusrose27622 жыл бұрын
Unprofessional perhaps, but the truth is that the ride operators know more about these rides than management. When maintenance is called in because the operators feel something isn't right, they get pressure from management to do whatever they can to get it operating again as quickly as possible, especially when the ride is one of the parks main attractions. Makes the operators a little slow to call something in.
@ofclshn2 жыл бұрын
@@gyption a ride operator does not know the correct maintenance of a ride, they are operators, not maintenance. He withheld his identity for a reason. No hourly ride operator should be a spokesperson for the park.
@ofclshn2 жыл бұрын
@@lucusrose2762 Oh I definitely agree with that but it wasn’t his place to speak to the news regarding the attraction regardless, especially with the speculative story he gave
@njt002 Жыл бұрын
RMC it.
@RC-ri9lr2 жыл бұрын
Money time
@mrmustangman2 жыл бұрын
yep.... back injuries are very difficult to disprove.....
@AF-oz2ww2 жыл бұрын
I literally just left a complaint about the safety of their rides a few months ago. People sue for shit like this, in litigious entitled fake lawyer america
@alecvip75622 жыл бұрын
This park isn't unsafe at all. I work here, and they do all sorts of saftey checks on the rides in the morning before the park opens. All I can do is hope that selim decided to fully retrack toro instead of removing it.
@squillz83102 жыл бұрын
blame the higher company management for the lack of attention. Cutting costs to save money = less employees to maintain the ride effectively
@johnb63712 жыл бұрын
Hey, cut me in on your lawsuit, now I have something to say. Sue him after.
@sharonroxy85862 жыл бұрын
The second it leaves its base u are on your own
@kamildouglas Жыл бұрын
a fear of losing there job huh hmmmmmm
@darrylellis48092 жыл бұрын
I wish i was on this coaster and got a back injury i would sue the hell out of this park.
@JaydaKapri2 жыл бұрын
Be careful what you wish for🙏🏽
@talos62022 жыл бұрын
@Darryl Ellis dude from what I see my coworker go through. You don't want anything to do with back injuries. It will haunt you for the rest of your life!
@COJER1232 жыл бұрын
Literally it’s made out of wood that’s not enough to support so I’m not surprised
@silencedobad4472 жыл бұрын
Wooden roller coasters are always a rough ride LOL.
@triple7marc2 жыл бұрын
No they're not, it just takes more maintenance to keep them running smoothly and many parks don't bother to do it.
@masinalima2 жыл бұрын
i pray to god six flags puts in money to retrack el toro🙏🙏🙏🙏
@musicmedicine2822 жыл бұрын
Great ride but definitely comes with a great headache…
@iiishception2 жыл бұрын
Six flags get your shit together and stop being cheap. This rides stability has been declining since 2020. An rmc conversion would make this ride awesome but leave it to six flags to cause the closing for one of the best wooden coasters.
@ScottyMania3132 жыл бұрын
Man, yall didn't conceal the voice, yinz slowed it dahn to make the voice even easier to match with the person speaking to you exclusively 🤡🤣🤡🤣🤡🤣
@bestcreator47712 жыл бұрын
😱😳
@mulattopapi97412 жыл бұрын
The condition of the world today nobody does anything right cuz nobody cares . Of course this is gonna keep happening lol, I personally love El toro, great adventure is nothing without it .
@thisrollercoasterlife4982 жыл бұрын
I can see why you wanted your voice disguised. If I was your boss, I'd fire you on the spot for selling out your team.
@nicholasfield61272 жыл бұрын
This is why I won't go to Six flags. This happened to Cedar Fair with Son of Beast and they tore it down.
@genedilorenzo7132 жыл бұрын
They need to sell Six Flags Major parks like Great Adenture to a company that will take care of this money maker park. Warner Discovery for the chain, but if they can not sell the chain i wish Sea World parks would buy this park. But i do not know if people in NJ would want a family style park like a Busch Gardens Williamsberg or Tampa Bay.
@noname-jh3bd2 жыл бұрын
There ain't no way in hell I would ever go on that ride.. Intamin subcontracted RMC to build the ride, and the track of the roller coaster was prefabricated, which allowed for quicker installation, and lower construction costs.. you get what you pay for.. RMC needs to be shut down, not to mention the fact that they ruined how many good roller coasters especially Colossus out at Magic Mountain
@gyption2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, did you just say RMC makes rides worse? This is a POV of the old Ratter at Six Flags Over Texas: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f91hiNZ82JfPqI0.html Now this is a POV of the new one:kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jd9lf9WSrKnWh3k.html now does that funky RCCA trackwork really look better to you..?
@theronlanghorne66732 жыл бұрын
You sound like an angry industry competitor. RMC has only improved coasters in their corporate history. EL TORO has been in operation since 2006 and has only experienced two incidents. They have only improved the coaster experience, ESPECIALLY Colossus.
@cojack4242 жыл бұрын
@@gyption clearly, this person knows nothing of what he/she is talking about…..RMC is a company that transforms old wooden coasters into smoother and faster coasters, so smooth that you don’t feel any shakes, rattles, bumps or any kind of rough ride for that matter…..
@benrideaux60972 жыл бұрын
I do everything but ride amusement park rides when I go! I honestly believe it’s never worth it
@triple7marc2 жыл бұрын
Lame
@bluelava42822 жыл бұрын
Tickets 🎟 on sale now……. Half off for Democrats
@AF-oz2ww2 жыл бұрын
Uh free for republicans? Since you guys refuse to maintain your property or hire properly because stockholders and squeezing as much out of people as possible is how you scammers got through the recession and got to this overvalued insane stock market. And it’s going to crash really soon because the quality of product and employees are disgustingly terrible, like illegally cutting costs.. and your stock prices are incredibly overvalued. This isn’t sustainable and all those retarded people from shitty colleges they hired thinking all bachelors degrees are equal are really ruining the world in their greedy cash grab bullshit. And not being smart enough to go to a real college. Aka they aren’t smart enough to be working at most places. Definitely not management or upper management or even like in marketing where they scam and lie. Whatever. I don’t know what you meant by your comment but I’m assuming it was like some dumb polarized nonsense because you are failing to see the bigger picture.
@slapshot682 жыл бұрын
Ciaterelli would hav ben on their a$$es! 2 issues in a yr? get ur s@it together or face severe consequences!
@slapshot682 жыл бұрын
Wildwood almost never has any rides with many issues cause they are strict down there in the Republican areas who believe in law and order
@azul88112 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Republicans really like having more governmental regulations…LOL
@Asshat2372 жыл бұрын
Omg “law and order” stfu.
@squillz83102 жыл бұрын
lmao blaming the safety of a coaster on the political party of the state is the dumbest shit i've ever heard
@TheLazySleeperLives2 жыл бұрын
Jackson NJ isn't conservative? Are you high?
@patriciaoreilly89072 жыл бұрын
Keep of this Roller Coaster.
@mrmustangman2 жыл бұрын
^off
@aarusharya56582 жыл бұрын
off*
@jay-dubb.dubb.682 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that this SF employee went on camera with the distorted voice and all for an exclusive interview to basically tell on maintenance for not doing their jobs. Hmmmmmmm.... Can't wait to see how this turns out 🎢 🧐
@jbw99992 жыл бұрын
Probably not hard to find the El Toro employee with the exaggerated homosexual voice.