One of ? More like she's by far the strongest by quite a large Marge

@@Brybeery they're not in the same generation one debuted in 2018 and the other in 2022

@@BAZISSINO94 4th gen started in 2018 btw

@@Brybeery but can we really count her as a 4th gen idol we she debuted before in 2013 and is almost a decade older than lily? Coz in that respect, viviz will be considered as 4th gen as well lmao

i'm not really a fan of NMIXX but i'm addicted to her voice. i think she has the best kpop female voice of her generation

She actually got best technics among 4th gen .

@@sanatmanhare5912 uhh- i never said she hasn't tho' 😅

Oh yes

me too, her tone is idk man her TONEEEEE

@@sanatmanhare5912 Nayul is still better

Omg ikr, I think she has a bit of vibrato but if she develops it…girl is gonna rock.

We should leave her time to grow cause even if she did 7 years of training, she's just a rookie, let's wait and see what's coming next

Im more interested if she fan do a crescendo/diminuendo soon cus them do i like dynamics

I thought about this a lot, her and Haewon would be greater with a stable vibrato.

she now has a Bb5 belt with vibrato on it!!

I just hope they don't apply those nasally singing style on her just like what they have done with Jihyo.

they are actually the best vocal line, Lily already being the best vocalist and Haewon being one of the best in this gen already says alot lol

@@Douchifer Agree tho, 😭 like 5/7 members support and Jiwoo have potential to support, and Lily being AA and Haewon at A-AA, and others are in W-A tier, They really have the best vocal line 😭

@@thatssuspicious279 it's more like 7/7 if we count shallow support as well and jiwooncan also support so all the members are atleast in E+ tier that is impressive

@@kaushikidhupar2954 i hope they show consistency, like girl 7/7 members support 👁️👄👁️

I think one of the best, bc Ning ning and winter exist, and Swan y Goeun exist to.

I dont think jyp would overwork her since others 4 member is a good vocalist(Jinni, Haewon, Sully, Kyujin) even bae n jiwoo is so close to support their note

I hope not, but JYP likes to put too much effort into their artists, Lily with such a wide range and well achieved, makes her perform an A5 in her debut, which is a very difficult note to do in a mixed voice, making it sound forced and make her repeat the same note live, I think JYP needs to be smart to stay. in the comfortable range of the idol and not make him push too hard@@diosbatagoli458

Yuju Literally Carried GFriend

@@beingpartofafandommakesyou9267 (coming from a buddy) cannot deny this...

@@diosbatagoli458 That's right but in O.O they barely used Haewon, Lily got the most difficult parts, i hope that they won't pressurize Lily so much

@@shujinko2944 exactly. 5/7 of the girls can support. It’s understandable that Lily got more lines in their debut (she trained for almost 8 years) but the line distribution of kill this love and thunderous are quite fair

@@hotwasabiii who are the other 2 who can’t support just wondering

@@Nero-xo8vp jiwoo and bae. their support is shallow weak and inconsistent

it’s JYP we’re talking about here.

@@days3164 It's probably because both of them chose a more stylistic way of singing.

cough... Reem Jenaideb...cough... ''questionable C5s''

@@Lu-.- *cough nearly resonant C#5

They don't...pls stop setting her up

@@timorcohen4641 they do, almost every Eb5 she sung are well supported 💀

Except she's already tight at C5. You can hear her larynx going up around that part, even some on B4 (like in Roar). it's especially obvious in Kill This Love and that song with you're my superhero line. She's not straining because her mixing is light, but it isn't supported either. Support means fully connected chord without tension. Her chords are connected, but there's tension on her larynx. Still will not change the fact she's a good vocalist.

Bae and Jiwoo have shallow support. Jiwoo is kinda better. I believe Bae can rise if she abandons her high larynx throaty singing style. She's very stylistic singer.

Like she has shown more development than Solar and even Solji (I’m wayyyyyy more familiar with Solar than Solji fyi) in all three of her registers, but both Solar and Solji have shown consistent resonance which is why they both edge her out. However, if Lily does show consistent resonance, she has a good chance of edging them out, probably putting her in fringe AA-P.

@@KittyTsundere Solji isn't consistent with resonace I would say, Solar too arguably.

@Nuggies Kim “Open Belt, Bright Pusher” Yongsun 🤠 ***EDIT: I would say Solar’s resonance has a pushed quality to it lol.

@@bigmamafan1773 or more evidence of resonance to be precise.

@@KittyTsundere The reason Solji is High AA is bc her support and coordination between G3-C5/C#5> everyone else in AA (especially below C5). Resonance isn’t a thing for her 99% of the time.

Thought I am the only one who hears the similarities

hope she doesn’t have that problematic vibrato tho

Lol. I thought so too. But seems like Lily can do more with her lower than Shannon, Shannon can support to C6 and I don't think Lily could do that. But Lily is more versatile and her tone more unique than Shannon.

@@doankimtuananh9317 shannon can support til d6

shannon is the best female vocalist the industry had in general lol only ailee could top her but i sort of get the comparison

Ikr. It's really getting annoying, someone said to me that Lily C5's are inconsistent💀💀

@UCJGb9Q7PGRlIgMaPd0NLz-w are you joking?? look at the video before commenting

like i honestly don't care when people say ningning is better than lily but it's so weird seeing how they say lily can't support above B4 & her head voice is "unsupported" like that's such a huge lie

@@skyline6242 Yes, they're kind of insecure because Lily showed something unexpected. Normally, the best vocalist was always dominated by SM and then suddenly a girl from JYP outsang their fave. I love Ningning and Lily equally, but I must admit Lily's middle and upper register are A LOT STRONGER. Ningning isn't that far from Lily because of her insane lower register. Both of them need more material, let's see their improvement :)

@skyline "she just shouts" they say🤡

Ningning actually has a lot of catching up to do if she ever wants to be in the same tier as lily. But of course she’s one of the best vocalists of 4th gen and probably the one who saved 4th gen’s vocal reputation lmao.

@@heyash1774 Nmixx, aespa, and Weeekly saved 4th gens vocal reputation 😂

@@izekielsanjho7964 true dat

YES GOD

It's far, tbh. I don't think Ningning upper register can beat Lily (Lily's upper is just natural good). Even Monday has better potential in upper than Ningning but her technique still messy. Ningning show more potential in lower register.

this is about her supported range only

Wendy yes. Taeyeon has been serving a lot of eb5s tho. She’s nearing consistency I hope🙏🏻Lily probably the best vocalist in the 4th gen tho. Monday from Weekly is pretty consistent as well I might add

However, Taeyeon's consistent resonance in her mid-belts still overpowers the two.

I don't think so ? WenTae always has a random E♭5 that is supported or at least carried support iirc

Taeyeon has consistency with Eb5 already, she supported it many times, but you follow the outdated blog so.

Uh.. how did you came up with that conclusion 😭 Taeyeon and Wendy have way more Eb5’s and it’s more impressive as well. Wendy has even been getting more consistency up there after Like Water era.

proof that lily antis never knew what they was talking abt

@@alishaoop2676 what that mean? Im not a lily anti. I said "downgrade" in a way I never think shes that of a good singer. I aint an anti🤷🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️

@@mambatheestallion1596 I think she meant your co MYs as the antis, not you. I really appreciate your opinion on Lily tho. She is amazing!

i love u, ur so nice

@@mambatheestallion1596 MYs need to understand that Lily being better than NingNing doesn’t make her a bad singer NingNing is not that far from Lily so y’all can stop attacking her.

wait she has issues with vowel shaping??

@@days3164 yes it's pretty apparent tbh one of her biggest problem

@@bluecrystal8913 honestly i dont think its that of a big issue, yes it could be a really major issue in singing but for me its not that serious for her

@@days3164 it is kind of a issue since her problem with vowel shaping is mainly why she has inconsistency with producing open sounding notes

@@bluecrystal8913 also she dosent produce any resonance also because shes not lifting her soft palate if im correct

yeah some does carry support

Lilly for sure haechan is 2nd best among 4th gen .

She’s better than yuju now. Yuju only managed to sing one resonant f5 moment in her life, then it stopped. She can’t belt decent d5 now.

@Baylon Nikko her recent 2022 moments are strained and average.

@Baylon Nikko she barely sang any C#5 in her solo album let alone D5 lol, but her supported range is still pretty much the same (C5/C#5).

@@annacoronel18 which performance are you referring to? if it’s Play then i wouldn’t say she’s straining at all, just as usual problems with having a constricted, nasal, and inconsistent vowel shaping.. support wise she’s actually doing fine overall although those C5s climax could be better, she’s barely sing above C5 there. But if you’re talking about her sustained D5 in Spring is gone by chance then yeah.

LMFOAOAOAOAOAOAOOA telling her ae butt to get into a vocal room and catch up to winter!!!! ☝🏿☝🏿

YOU DID NOT 😭😭😭

NAURRR 😭😭😭

Lmaoooooooo, but dw I got you since back in my BTS V stan days, I actually sent his KVA analysis in one of his Vlive Q&A sessions (back in 2019) since I wanted him to improve his vocals as well since I love his voice to pieces (and still do though I don’t really stan anyone anymore lmao).

@@KittyTsundere NO WAY LMFAO

The best out of the 5 would be Jinni since her Bb4 seems decent. Bae is really inconsistent so she would be in Fringe weak maybe, Jiwoo seems to be doing better than Bae so she can be in the weak tier, like Yuqi.

it’s jinni imo. even w/ the pushing/tightness i still hear a stronger cord development from her compared to sullyoon/kyujin (if she consistently approaches like in mama’s cover it could grant her a spot on the A) but the three of them are not too far off. also yes, i’d say all of them had developed support to some extent, w/ bae being the messiest. thanks!! ^^ x

@Kafka Crimson it’s down the comments section of this video!

@ I disagree with Kyujin sounding A at mama, she sounded a bit too shallow/light there, its still below the average bottom line. Also I agree that Jinni does the most trying to achieve a fuller sound from this trio but I personally don't think her sense of support itself is any better than Kyujin and Sullhyun, its about the same and a bit less smooth at times.

@@bigmamafan1773 kyujin? it was jinni whose covered mama, she doesn’t sound shallow for me generally speaking also pretty sure they commented she sounded average-ish on the vocal threads at that time btw. i agree their sense of support are about even but jinni does have slightly better development compared to kyujin/sullyoon personally, the latter two are tighter and lighter than jinni respectively. oh btw there’s a clip of jinni singing dalla dalla where she went a bit softer that ironically made me perceive her development is actually there, even when singing lighter she doesn’t completely looses sup actually i would argue it was ‘decently’ carried upto the Bb where it peaks

@Baylon Nikko solar never produce resonance .

@@sanatmanhare5912 she did,But she still inconsistent with her Resonance

Yes, Lee Younghyun, Yeonji, Taeyeon, Chen, Haeri (?), Ailee etc...

@@bigmamafan1773 wendy?

@@sanatmanhare5912 rarely

I thought the same after I just watched the video. She also hit a G#5 in head voice in the Micheal Jackson cover.

@@nomorenoise2374 yeah there was a g#5 but i don't think it was supported but she was clearly just playing around during those head voice moments so i won't hold it against her, i really want to hear some runs from her in their next cb ik those studio runs will sound real nice

@@skyline6242 it isn’t supported but she hit it. her runs were sm better than what we’ve heard b4 tbh. I’d like to hear her attempt some challenging runs, some runs like Haewon’s to be exact.

@@ceemaaaa YES! they were so clean, same with her falsetto. it’s so pleasing to their ears

Oh so I think it's clear that Lily's limit in low is G#3.

Nayul>Lily>Yechan>Haewon>=Ningning

@@chrussss8727 i don think its still go like haewon >= ningning cuz haewon is already consistent with her C#5 and haewon mix quality is better than ning and haewon now probably is in AA tier

@@chrussss8727 haewon and ningning are tied

@@davidakbar4876 no, ningning is consistent with C#5 which is why her and haewon are tied

@@vvenuskook4170 yes she is but quality wise ningning C#5 is too light and soft if we compared her C#5 with haewon C#5 thats why i won't say they tied now

@@vvenuskook4170 obsessed??

@@vvenuskook4170 that was tho. You should stop underestimate Lily this much in all the videos, this girl have a great potential.

@@yejisolostan5456 she does have great potential and she’s definitely one of the best in the 4th gen but you’re delusional if you think she is anywhere near producing resonance yet 😂

@@vvenuskook4170 in 3:27 she resonated

@@vvenuskook4170 sorry to break the news but shes close to producing it... shes 2nd best 4th gen singer

“who’s better Ningning or Lily?” is probably the most FAQ in 2022 💀💀 they are the 4th gen of Wendy vs Yuju lmao.

4th gen version of "Who's better Yuju or Wendy"

@@Douchifer You've been gone for a long time 😡

Its either mys are insecure or nmixx stans desperate for lily beating ningning. This comparison will not stop im afraid so🤦🏿‍♀️

@@rinactx8170 been super busy irl but i’ve been working on vocal video don’t worry it will be coming up soon!😊

More like younger Beyonce but with lighter and brighter tone.

grapes haewon has shown moments in head voice too kzfaq.infoWzBK4DjjfTY?feature=share Here in this tank line and in her improv kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fMtddaurvNqtpmw.html Here I second clip its in the head voice

@@Brybeery i would put haewon above lily in lower register haewon's lower register sounds fuller than lily's

@@Brybeery Thanks 🌹 But are those their supported Lows, mix and upper registers or just their supported range??

@@kaushikidhupar2954 thank u!!

@@Brybeery what about their lower, mixed and upper registers?? How much they can support their lows, mix and highs?? And thank u!!

above yechan yeah, nayul is still stronger so far. stayc has three weak vocalists w/ isa being the most consistent, they are very close though kep1er has chaehyun who’s average then dayeon/mashiro/youngeun are about the same, i believe dayeon might be a bit cleaner but def not more than weak

@ what about bahiyyih?

@@alishaoop2676 very nasal, stuck placement, pitchy, flaty

@ interesting so Kep1er and stayc are wore well-off than I thought. Dayeon is truly an ace if she has some support despite being showcased more as a rapper and dancer and even Youngeun too.

Nah, I don't see her using jyp half air technique

I feel like this technique got left out during miss a and jyp just decided to stop. none of his artists these days use that

As it stands now, she doesn't use it. Let's hope she doesn't, because it's clearly doing her wonders for her voice. The only thing she has to be careful of (well not really her, but JYPE) is overworking her voice. She's incredibly gifted and far ahead of most, if not all, of her peers, but overworking her voice this early into her career could reverse that progress very fast.

@@Empyrean.127 There is chance that it won't end like Yuju since all the members have good vocals

@@yejisolostan5456 Well let’s hope they turn it down a few notches, for her own sake and for the rest of the group. I think Lily wouldn’t mind not having to belt E5 and above for a few comebacks.

@@Brybeery 100%

@@Brybeery i think ning can get F#5 in hv ar her consistent but the lack of material is her problem

Isn't Yechan consistent with G3/G#3? iirc she has G3 at best.

Ningning has supported G5 hv in predebut from what I heard, I saw someone who comments alot about supported range say it but when they try to send the link on that comment section it keeps getting deleted but I trust them since they’re always everywhere when it comes to support.

@@gxm9763 yes she supported 1 in her predebut

Never Be The Same

Hiyyih is 2nd best

i’m not sure but i reckon dayeon gave me the impression she had some support too, youngeun/mashiro are a bit better than the rest whose are about the same: nasal, pitchy, no support or whatever

@ But isn't Dayeon very throaty, nasal, and tense? She's like on the lower parts of Kep1er's Vocal Ranking If I remember correctly

@@shiholic see everyone *including* chaehyun is very nasal lol i don’t keep up w/ kep1er as much to be fair, but from gp999 dayeon/mashiro/youngeun had better connections than the rest, it’s nothing strong by any means though. no, i wouldn’t point out throatiness as a notable issue on her singing and i wouldn’t say she’s on the lower part either.

What about your thoughts on Yujin and Bahiyyih?

Never Be The Same by Camila Cabello.

@@Bunbun05 Thanks :3

@@vintasahi does moonbyul from mamamoo support?

@@vintasahi I heard some giving her A3/Bb3 in her lows and some as well give her A4/Bb4? edit: i'm referring to rosé

@@vintasahi is she consistent referring to moonbyul

@@izekielsanjho7964 Yes she does, but it's still shallow and inconsistent (or could be because of the lack of materials lol). I would give her around G3/G#3 - F#4/G4 for now. She does have decent chest coordination compared to those around the same level of her though.

@@vintasahi You meant her mid-range right? I wouldn't say her mix is "relaxed" tbh since she has issues with throatiness, tightness, and inconsistent support in much of her mix lol.

Oh ho…it’s going to be a war between the MYs and the NMIXX stans in the comment section for sure lmaoooooo.

NMIXX > aespa > weekly

@@cryforme8656 i mean members

@@KittyTsundere but why ? I mean even monday is better then ningning so.

@@sanatmanhare5912 Toxic MYs can’t accept that NMIXX has stronger vocalists than Aespa as a whole, the best 4th gen vocalists overall and in the Big 4 companies are NOT from SM and instead from JayWhYPee, and they say Lily sounds like she’s “screaming” as a summary lol.

lina (csjh) luna (f(x)) taeyeon (snsd) wendy (rv) bada (s.e.s.) ningning (aespa) jessica (snsd)

@@cutiieeepatootieee2002 thanks :)

@@cutiieeepatootieee2002 bada below wendy and teayeon??

I thought bada is the best sm singer🙉

@@mambatheestallion1596 no, kyuhyun is. he is arguably the best idol vocalist of all time too

When Sullyoon tries to go to a chestier approach, she sounds better, but this coordination still isn't natural to her vocal cords.

Her lower range sounded so good

@Tralala_Beez We always use the comments section of the last video to talk about updates and answer our questions. For God's sake, you didn't have to write a text as big as this.

@Tralala_Beez ar u new here ?

@Tralala_Beez it's not that deep. Why are you like getting triggered? This comment section isn't like a private area for Lily.

Survivor cover jypn

Yes she can support, her supported range is A3/Bb3 - A4/Bb4

All Nmixx members can support

Lily>haewon=ningning>monday>winter>chaehyun>jiwon>chu>haseul

@@kalss7013 Jiwon is stronger than Chaeyun

@@kalss7013 ningning was kinda stronger than haewon

@@blackblink2378 They are tied coz Haewon has better upper register, NingNing has better lower register, and their mix is basically same for now

IM GOING CRAZY LILY AND HAEWON COVERED 15&

hey! just copying and pasting it here “ i’m aligned w/ @Nuggies except the D at “tonight” still carry support imo, the one on the 15& song i agree was messier than the rest, guessing it’s likely that lily will have a issue when it comes to sustaining. so haewon might have C#s down 👀 they all carry support throughout. now i’m a bit skeptical whenever speaking of the lower rated vocalists but ngl, they all have some level of support w/ bae being the shallowest for me, mainly because she tends to sing from her throat a lot, she has the less-cute G#/A4s but her voice is not completely unsupported imo. i like jiwoo’s G4~A4 in be my baby, it’s fairly nasal but i feel like it’s for style. i hear some development there, would say it carry support but nothing praiseworthy, nothing more than a weak thing. now for jinni, sullyoon, kyujin they are WA girls so there’s a bit more of fullness in their sound, jinni went nasal for those Bb4s in hush but they’re alright, it’s not too different from what karina been doing imo, sullyoon had less nasality going on the Bbs but she’s also shallower, though she sounds slightly more solid on the loco’s chorus. kyujin didn’t get to the Bb unless i’ve missed something but the phrasing G4~A4 in be my baby is fine, supported, but still stuck as expected from her. overall: lily > haewon > jinni > sullyoon > kyujin > jiwoo > bae. “

@ so Lily is in AA tier? And Haewon is in A-AA

the timestamp is incomplete.

@@ninetine3052 oh thanks for telling it

@@m00d52 it's Never Be The Same

g#3 - c#5 - f5 iirc

@@justme-fj8fg that wasn’t resonant

Yuri is just a high D+, she's not one of the best

​@@bearyoung High D+ ? She is C....

shes already consistent with Eb5

Nmixx - Tank. The bridge made specially for her i think. she hit it so well.

g#3/a3 - c#5/d5 - f#5/g5

it says in the video under

@@days3164 That’s the ESTIMATED supported range. Her current supported range is probably A3-C#5/D5-F5

@@nomorenoise2374 wow!!😍