NO MORE HORRIBLE GREENS TREATMENT... THIS IS A GAME-CHANGER!?

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James Robinson Golf

James Robinson Golf

2 жыл бұрын

NO MORE HORRIBLE GREENS TREATMENT... THIS IS A GAME-CHANGER!? 100% Of Golfer's HATE THIS... BUT WHY!? Have you ever wondered WHY greenskeepers ruin the greens at certain times in a season? often the greens just get good at your golf course... In this video I talk through the guys at Woolley Park GC about Greens Aeration... a golfers nightmare, and often something which gets hugely misunderstood. The guys art Woolley Park have invested heavily in equipment to try and make the big horrible holes a thing of the past. Is this the most annoying thing in golf? stereotypical golfers often hate it... let's do it... and let's do it now!

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@tommiethatcher7265
@tommiethatcher7265 2 жыл бұрын
Big shout out to all the green keepers around the country doing an outstanding job at keeping the courses in excellent condition
@999ukfire
@999ukfire 2 жыл бұрын
Greenkeeping is easy, every golf course has about 400 experts 😂😂😂😂
@billliberati9840
@billliberati9840 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you I appreciate you saying that we never get an atta-boy good job well done nothing
@billliberati9840
@billliberati9840 2 жыл бұрын
@@999ukfire definitely not easy there buddy
@999ukfire
@999ukfire 2 жыл бұрын
@@billliberati9840 I was stating that every member is a greenkeeper or they think they are. Greenkeeping is a science in my book and a specialist activity.
@MATTFL380
@MATTFL380 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words Tommie! We do our best.
@neilgooders6758
@neilgooders6758 2 жыл бұрын
As a head Greenkeeper I appreciate you educating golfers James. Great job buddy.
@chosen1one930
@chosen1one930 9 ай бұрын
It's the same thing where you pull a small or big core. You could also not pull a core at all with solid tines. There have been studies on this very situation. Leaving more thatch through the winter can always cause negative impacts, winterkill, spring dead spot and so on. Why not just pull a bigger plug, it won't take that long to heal, your looking at 1 week to 10 days. Another bad thing with this he is aerating at the same depth over and over far more often instead of only twice a year. Repeated aeration at the same depth with cause layering in the rootzone, and than black layer
@ssaunders2k
@ssaunders2k 2 жыл бұрын
Shout out to the green keepers. Usually under appreciated and getting the playing surfaces as good as they do is a tough job ... more so than most folk realise.
@guyr7351
@guyr7351 2 жыл бұрын
And while they may aerate the greens once a year there is a reason, we have no reason for not repairing pitch marks. If each person Repaired a Minimum of two per green when you play the greens would be fixed in a week
@illforever4153
@illforever4153 2 жыл бұрын
Yup 5:30-2 every day
@duncangreenshields8567
@duncangreenshields8567 2 жыл бұрын
More of this kind of "behind the scenes" stuff please! It's really interesting for those of us who just pitch up and play and don't know how much effort goes into keeping the courses so pristine!
@andrewmorehead8710
@andrewmorehead8710 2 жыл бұрын
I am a greens keeper in Maryland USA, thank you for making this video James. Golfers always get mad when we punch our greens. Unfortunately it is a necessary evil.
@paulrhodes4657
@paulrhodes4657 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got to say, it doesn’t bother me when they do the greens….I love it as I know the greens are going to be amazing all year round because of it. Definitely worth the sacrifice of a couple of rounds a year. Great excuse for always missing my putts 😂
@TheECUDave
@TheECUDave 2 жыл бұрын
I was introduced to the game by a greenskeeper. I learned more than I probably should have about course management from playing rounds with him. I still have that critical eye for spotting little deficiencies around the course. It really made me appreciate all the hard work those guys do to give us a great playground.
@golferbell
@golferbell 2 жыл бұрын
Love these behind the scenes of how to maintain a golf course. Great work.
@davedelacy
@davedelacy 2 жыл бұрын
Great Job by John and you explaining the process and watching it happen, especially the size of holes made. Good job for the golf course maintenance staff, professionals at there trade
@mattcoulson1560
@mattcoulson1560 2 жыл бұрын
As a nerd myself I appreciate the science lesson :P Always interesting to see "behinds the scenes" stuff like this, and John and his team are clearly a credit to his club.
@chrissellings
@chrissellings 2 жыл бұрын
I shot my best score of the year yesterday on scarified greens. Our Greenskeepers work tirelessly at Seaford Golf Club to give us good playing conditions all year round. And it just so happens that our greenskeepers are between 2-4 index. Shout out to Craig and Charlie and the team at Seaford. It's a great course and club to be part of.
@alanblasczyk1779
@alanblasczyk1779 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thanks to all the greens keepers and maint. workers out there.
@travistiffany5585
@travistiffany5585 2 жыл бұрын
Love to see the behind the scenes action at a quality club. Might be a good series to highlight a lot of the jobs available in the industry. In particular at the course. Maintenance of tee boxes, fairways, bunkers. Might help with the way players participate in the care of the course they play on.
@robvogt6421
@robvogt6421 2 жыл бұрын
Love it! I’m also a greens keeper and appreciate this being brought to light.
@dallastimebandits
@dallastimebandits 2 жыл бұрын
I know here in texas you have to go deep when you pull cores. Its all clay here in dallas
@onlyme7950
@onlyme7950 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, Golfers need to understand that it takes a LOT OF HARD WORK to allow us to play golf. Shout out to all green keepers.
@ProfessorCockrum
@ProfessorCockrum 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks James, I've sent this to my group back here in the states; LOVE MOST of your content
@chadode9048
@chadode9048 2 жыл бұрын
For a procedure I disdain so much...I sure enjoyed watching that video! Thanks to all the Green Keepers out there!
@ladgolf6330
@ladgolf6330 2 жыл бұрын
Woolley is one of the best presented courses I've ever played, so you have to put your trust in the guys that present it like that. Besides, conditions are the same for everybody on the day, so what does it matter... Wind, rain, greens maintenance - they're all just factors in playing regular golf.
@darrenarbergolf
@darrenarbergolf 2 жыл бұрын
Great video James, it is however one of the hardest weeks in the shop which members popping in for a chat. I think communication & education the reasons and benefits will go along way to help golfers understand.
@haznick
@haznick 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Definitely do more of these with the green keepers throughout the year.
@iancollins3492
@iancollins3492 2 жыл бұрын
Just reviewing the work programme for these upcoming months at our Club Think ALL golfers would benefit from hearing and seeing this video James Good stuff 👍👍
@graememacfarlane7342
@graememacfarlane7342 2 жыл бұрын
This should be shared by every golf club to their membership
@JamesRobinsonGolf
@JamesRobinsonGolf 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@der4th
@der4th 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. They just punched the greens at a lot of courses in south Florida. It never occurred to me that it helped with drainage. Which is pretty important in my part of the world during summer months. I would love to see more course maintenance type videos.
@mpfencing
@mpfencing 2 жыл бұрын
Great video James, amazing to see the work that goes into keeping the green playing so well. Woolley park looks a great course, John does a fantastic job .
@ianscott6811
@ianscott6811 2 жыл бұрын
Big up and huge respect to greenkeepers! Probably the most under-appreciated people in golf.
@toonlad4091
@toonlad4091 2 жыл бұрын
James man....when are we going to see you up playing 'Newbiggin by the sea' whilst the greens are lightning, you would love it mate....just up the A19....just saying! Great to see needles being used instead of plugs on a lot of courses. At the end of the day...it is what it is to have great greens over the colder months. Keep up the great work lads!!!!!
@williamhopkins3119
@williamhopkins3119 2 жыл бұрын
Great work and good to see the unsung heroes getting recognition for getting courses ready for the winter 🥶 and set up for the new year
@petermolyneux9544
@petermolyneux9544 2 жыл бұрын
Our greens maintenance week was in August which seemed odd, but the head greenkeeper explained it was because the ground was warmer, so recovery was quicker. He was right, and our greens are fantastic now.
@rjworld7122
@rjworld7122 2 жыл бұрын
Been a greenkeeper for nearly 18 years and we get the comments and moans from the same people year on year and when we get it now im just gonna refer people to this video well done james and well done all the lads at woolley park
@kevinscott2780
@kevinscott2780 2 жыл бұрын
Great insight! Love those guys! It looks brilliant!
@squareman10
@squareman10 2 жыл бұрын
I think most golfers would appreciate discounted greens fees for a week or two after aeration. Another issue is courses not giving adequate notice. Nice video...thanks
@DrScottson
@DrScottson 2 жыл бұрын
Almost every course ive worked at discounts the green fees for about a month after renovations the club i worked previously went from $90 down to $40 and my current club goes from $160 down to $80 for two weeks
@squareman10
@squareman10 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrScottson Brenton, that's good to hear. Many reviews on GolfNow for courses in my area complain about not being notified of aerification and no discount, so it seems the practice can vary widely. Good to hear some courses are doing it...hopefully it can become industry standard with greater awareness!
@DrScottson
@DrScottson 2 жыл бұрын
We close for 2 weeks twice a year. For reno’s greens tees and fairways are scarified scalped and cored. Roughs are scarified and tees and greens are topp dressed.
@squareman10
@squareman10 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrScottson I bet your course is in great shape!
@scottwitman7285
@scottwitman7285 2 жыл бұрын
I am good friends with our Superintendent and love that you provided a glimpse into their world ( a thankless job) but have shown that aeration is important to keep the course in great shape ( especially the greens) ( and sometimes the tee boxes !!!) Cheers from the States
@mattrichards3070
@mattrichards3070 2 жыл бұрын
Genuinely proper interesting stuff. Gutted that I did my work experience with green keepers, and I absolutely hated it, horrible weather and stupidly early starts… not a teenagers dream. But now I’d love to be out there learning that stuff.
@stevewhiting5672
@stevewhiting5672 2 жыл бұрын
Great video good communication between the management & members has got to be the best way to go 👍
@lvond555
@lvond555 3 ай бұрын
Great vid. Just grabbed some tines for my home backyard putting green from Ninja tines. Couldn't remember the tine he was using and came back to watch again. Thanks for the info. really helpful.
@penpilot1
@penpilot1 2 жыл бұрын
Here in the US Carolinas, the bent grass greens were punched several weeks ago and the bermuda green were done before that. All are perfect now with the bent getting fast and delightful for late season play. We play year round, hehe.
@mangelo635
@mangelo635 2 жыл бұрын
In my area Tucson Arizona they have to shut the course down for 2 weeks for the winter changover. Bermuda grass goes dormant late Oct into Nov all the facilities have to overseed with winter rye which holds up thru the winter and the occasional freeze that happens. All the locals dread this time of year.
@russanderson6345
@russanderson6345 2 жыл бұрын
Loved that interesting watch 👍🏼
@daveweedall4505
@daveweedall4505 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative video James unsung heroes our greenkeepers we don't tell them enough how good a job they do
@aidanwebster4289
@aidanwebster4289 2 жыл бұрын
Had my one and only H in 1 on scarified greens so usually happy to see it!! Although note to clubs if you are going to do it and cut in temporary holes on the fairway to 90% of the holes best tell your visitors and before they tee off after paying full whack 😡 Not this course obviously, always looks mint on the videos 👍🏻
@aaronconsaul6645
@aaronconsaul6645 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting 👌... good video, no one else shows this stuff and the technology behind it
@Premier_lawns_official
@Premier_lawns_official 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done ❤️ super video. Loved the edited too
@tombatterby5782
@tombatterby5782 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff chaps nice one 👍
@Doctoberfest
@Doctoberfest 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work, I enjoy aeration at my local courses. Keeps all the sunday golfers off the course. Smaller tines are interesting, reminds me a shading needles for tattoos
@erny95
@erny95 2 жыл бұрын
I don't complain about maintenance because they are only making our experience better for the future 👌🏼 love these videos
@jeffbates5401
@jeffbates5401 2 жыл бұрын
James great video. Very informative and educational
@bernardhilton3527
@bernardhilton3527 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. Cheers James.
@michaelreilly5888
@michaelreilly5888 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent and informative video fellows!
@dannyl3417
@dannyl3417 2 жыл бұрын
I love this content; useful for all golfers to note
@benjaminclarke7668
@benjaminclarke7668 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Good to see the super taking some initiative and not just pulling massive cores because everyone else is..it should always be property specific. looks like he knows his well 👍
@halfkraazy
@halfkraazy 2 жыл бұрын
Good video James. Everyone love your greens keepers now. Buy them a pint and pat them on the back. 😁 Good job guys!
@commonman317
@commonman317 2 жыл бұрын
Having worked in the lawn and garden industry before, I do understand and appreciate the science behind the upkeep of a golf course. But, as a beginner golfer, it almost hurts watching a perfect putting green get tore up temporarily like that!! In the end, that course sure looks beautiful, wow.
@chuckyz2
@chuckyz2 2 жыл бұрын
They don't roll the greens in my area as much as they should. Very interesting video. Good to see technology advancing in green keeping.
@mikecopeman9434
@mikecopeman9434 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting…. Our golf course uses 8mm, then upon end of season (01 November), they go all in with much deeper holes to survive through our harsh winters. Quebec, Canada…. Our course holes the greens 10 days ago, most of the greens don’t have holes anymore.
@garymartingolf
@garymartingolf 2 жыл бұрын
What’s a great video, loved the slow mo edits👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
@barrymurton8988
@barrymurton8988 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thanks guys.
@gcunn1
@gcunn1 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. But 4mm holes are a quarter the area of 8mm holes.
@guyr7351
@guyr7351 2 жыл бұрын
Correct, so even though. They were running 60 cores on the machine v 24 of the 8mm they are taking more soil out with the 24 x 8 MM cores. Maybe with the smaller cores they can do a second pass and the green is more playable?
@apaulmcdonough2170
@apaulmcdonough2170 2 жыл бұрын
But you are creating 2.5 times as many holes in the width of one pass. This allows for Removal of sufficient thatch and compacted soil, and while the smaller holes heal at the same Speed as the Larger Holes, the distortion of the Surface and their visibility is much less.
@apaulmcdonough2170
@apaulmcdonough2170 2 жыл бұрын
@@guyr7351 no need to make a Second Pass. The 60 smaller plugs are sufficient for his purposes at that time.
@williammcintyre9380
@williammcintyre9380 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding, good information
@cathal35
@cathal35 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, very informative!
@peterjames6017
@peterjames6017 2 жыл бұрын
Great video , I’ve always wondered how they deal with divot filled tee boxes
@randynaylor27
@randynaylor27 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the education!
@akrickm1
@akrickm1 2 жыл бұрын
Great info thanks a lot
@KP-lt4kt
@KP-lt4kt 2 жыл бұрын
I want to play that course after seeing how much James cares about what he does great job
@andewlea3772
@andewlea3772 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video James love to see that John's trying new things to try and impact the least on the greens for the golfers , Is this the first time using them that thin because the didn't seem to go as deep as the others and will it be as good. Great for the insight to greenkeepers role and why they do these things they do such an important job
@chuckyz2
@chuckyz2 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't watch the entire video. They talked about why they don't need to go as deep. You must be broke. Too broke to pay attention. lol
@johnrowbottom782
@johnrowbottom782 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew, We have been using these for over a year now as our go to hollow coring tine. We are built on USGA spec rootzone so we have no need to remove anything below the top inch. We are purely focusing on organic matter management when we hollow core which these times are great for 👍🏻. John
@andewlea3772
@andewlea3772 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnrowbottom782 5hankyou John for your reply I love to see and try to understand all aspects of golf and as a member of a golf club you may have a quick conversation with the green keeping staff and probly conscious of taking up to much of there time . Watching James videos with you playing as well it's great to see a well kept course and commend your team in your work
@BG-ei5rj
@BG-ei5rj Жыл бұрын
Ninja tines are amazing during season. Amazing recovery and put a roller over and as good as new. We did do a thing called hydroject. Which would punch holes with water to open up and give water at the same time
@samking4179
@samking4179 2 жыл бұрын
great video! Thanks!
@tofinowildernessresort3579
@tofinowildernessresort3579 2 жыл бұрын
you guys are lucky to stay open. My course which is private closes for a whole 5 days.
@fuji302
@fuji302 Ай бұрын
Small cores failed miserably at our course. Couldn’t get enough old out and new sand in. Green conditions steadily got bad like we didn’t do anything. Went back to big cores and the greens responded again. USGA greens. That top little bit may be good going into summer but it is no substitution for big holes.
@waynecalvert206
@waynecalvert206 2 жыл бұрын
Great work
@randybobandy7236
@randybobandy7236 2 жыл бұрын
Worked in kitchens and retail for 7 years. I’m now 25, and miserable and am really thinking about green keeping. Don’t get to play enough to get down to be a club pro and this way I spend more time on the course. Those greens looked beautiful!
@garthsampson2988
@garthsampson2988 2 жыл бұрын
I must say I did cringe a little when you showed the slow mo of the green getting aerated. lol. But I appreciate you showing how and why and when it is done. You can tell John is passionate about his job and it shows with the condition of the course. Great job again James. Keep it up!
@kevinpinder9372
@kevinpinder9372 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting content 👍
@Cubeeyy
@Cubeeyy 2 жыл бұрын
Massively appreciate the green keepers but I did get a little ticked off with them when my first eagle putt was sent completely wayward by the green treatment in my last round
@dcgreenspro
@dcgreenspro 2 жыл бұрын
Basic understanding of turf grass and soil health. Everyone should be excited when you see this happening. Top dressing should be applauded as well
@aggadan
@aggadan 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing advance in the process it was back breaking work back 40 years ago when I did it .
@bazmcc310
@bazmcc310 2 жыл бұрын
Our local course done this during a competition not so long ago. Spiked, not sanded, rolled or cut after. just left as it was.
@danielmorris8038
@danielmorris8038 2 жыл бұрын
Huge props to all of the green keepers!
@mikegreene8461
@mikegreene8461 2 жыл бұрын
Airplane props?
@leegreveson3103
@leegreveson3103 2 жыл бұрын
As a Greenkeeper in nearby leeds, Thankyou for this video 😂
@warrenturnbull3436
@warrenturnbull3436 11 ай бұрын
Do you guys have any kind of drag that you put on your aerator to drag the plugs off the greens? Or do you just blow them off?
@markbailey9503
@markbailey9503 2 жыл бұрын
Its good they do it because the greens would be s--t if it wasn't do and its very interesting what goes on to make the greens look so good, good job John 👍🏌️‍♂️⛳
@Garbox80
@Garbox80 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see that there's development happening in that area too. I mean why use a cannon if a needle does the job as well or better. And like many others here in comments, I don't really mind about this stuff when I'm playing. I know it has to be done in order to keep the greens nice. I try to putt so that the ball goes rolling straight and keep it going better no matter what comes on the way. I get a bit annoyed when the greens are not optimal (and even bad, like temporary winter green here up north) and I'm playing with people who constantly whine how bad the greens are, unplayable etc. Yes, it's not optimal, but my approach is that I try to think how ghe conditions will affect and what should I do to counter them. Just like any other shot where you have to think about hazards, wind etc.
@waynepark4430
@waynepark4430 2 жыл бұрын
Insightful.
@keithhodson7352
@keithhodson7352 2 жыл бұрын
So much easier to clear afterwards. We usually have a group of volunteers to help sweep greens after hollow tinings
@granthultman2914
@granthultman2914 2 жыл бұрын
I have been curious about what goes into course maintenance. Would like to learn about what aggravates the superintendents. I always try to be curious because I play the same courses locally and don't want to be a pest.
@martinpigott3936
@martinpigott3936 2 жыл бұрын
Great video , shame it was only 12 minutes long , could watch these types of vids all day . Have to ask as a southerner what is mizzle??
@scottschroder5304
@scottschroder5304 2 жыл бұрын
How often are core sames taken from greens, fairways, and tee boxes. Would love more education on what the optimal soil sample should be. Great series, as the educational factor and efforts of of greenkeepers need more recognition to their contribution.
@apaulmcdonough2170
@apaulmcdonough2170 2 жыл бұрын
Fairways and Tees are generally done twice a year. Early Spring, late Summer. Courses in climates that allow "Year round Play" will do Fairways and Tees every few months. As mentioned in the Video, this Aeration needs to be done while still in "growing season" for "healing" to happen.
@markstrawbridge9133
@markstrawbridge9133 2 жыл бұрын
you're bloody lucky last couple of years they've done ours at the end of july beginning of august with the 13mm ones !!!!
@johnnewman7605
@johnnewman7605 2 жыл бұрын
Informative
@Justthemow
@Justthemow 7 ай бұрын
What would be the difference between this micro plugger and a ground fracture spike that just goes in and vibrates to open a hole does the plug actually need to be pulled
@NarrowboatWill
@NarrowboatWill 2 жыл бұрын
Great info. So annoying paying for golf and the greens look like ww1 trench...
@lasvagas16
@lasvagas16 Жыл бұрын
Hi what speed setting did you have the procore set to IE spacing
@phillowndes-castle2958
@phillowndes-castle2958 2 жыл бұрын
I did wonder what the reasons for this was for. Us hackers from the Dock Inn at Penzance aren't club members so do you get reduced green fees while maintenance week is on? Also, Liam did the same video this week and they used an additional machine that sucked up the cores and split them into soil and thatch, the soil being used to refill the holes (together with the sand) while the thatch was composted down for use on the tees as divot filler.
@chucklucas8747
@chucklucas8747 2 жыл бұрын
The course I work at uses this same machine we also notify everybody in advance an also place dates on web site being public courses (2) it is in great shape
@misteragony
@misteragony 2 жыл бұрын
I learned last week that the stuff that comes out of the greens is considered chemical waste (because of all the stuff they spray on greens).
@normlang1994
@normlang1994 2 жыл бұрын
WOW...wish more courses used the smaller tines on greens. They wouldn't even be noticeable on putts if the green was top dressed and swept properly.
@steelwheels4613
@steelwheels4613 9 ай бұрын
Have you ever looked into the Dryject systems? What are your thoughts?
@joseborrego9785
@joseborrego9785 Жыл бұрын
What Can fertilize is good after doing the aeration ??
@alanduncan9204
@alanduncan9204 2 жыл бұрын
Way back when Golf first started. St Andrews being one example. In the winter the course was played backwards. Greens were made near the Tees and Tees made near the Greens. The construction did not have to be the same quality as the summer course, but it meant Golf could be played all year unless it was covered in snow. This system also means that the main approach areas get rested and divots would be taken at a different location on the fairway. Why is that not done now?
@msalzberg4962
@msalzberg4962 2 жыл бұрын
And putting on those greens would have been like putting on a fairway today. Watch some old videos. Look at guys whacking at the ball on the green, and watch it bounce around. No one today would put up with that.
@apaulmcdonough2170
@apaulmcdonough2170 2 жыл бұрын
When St Andrews first was built, "6 on the Stimp" was *FAST!*
@pachelseafc
@pachelseafc 2 жыл бұрын
Are we copying Liam over on golf mates James 😂😂😂, always good to see how the greenkeepers work their magic 👍🏌️
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