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No More Milorganite (For Me)

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Jimmy Lewis

Jimmy Lewis

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I wanted to put something together where I could share my experiences and lessons learned from using Milorganite for several years as I learned to treat my lawn, and why I won't be using Milorganite for the foreseeable future. As a supplement to this video, please feel free to read my blog post:
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@Renee5
@Renee5 2 жыл бұрын
Milo has done my yard wonders. there's a reason all my neighbors ask me what i'm doing 😂
@Yoyo-jc8hg
@Yoyo-jc8hg 2 жыл бұрын
Having been a former Golf Course Superintendent and now in the municipal wastewater field. The concerns of synthetic fertilizers made from the oil versus reclaimed biosolids as resource that has amazing benefits is almost undeniable. I had used this product as a secret weapon as a Superintendent. Most could not believe how the first week a good weather i could have such amazing looking turf. Microbes work on soil temperature and are releasing nitrogen at the rate the plant can take up. It is obvious to most that leaching of Fert and Chem products in the environment is real. Alge blooms in the water sheds of golf courses in evident even as most don't talk about it. Fert and Chem is how we achieve amazing conditions in very high traffic turf businesses but if we could save all the CO2 of make synthetics. If we could save from using harmful Fungicides that fight diseases like snowmold, anthracnose and dollar spot, that bio fert fights against. And at the same time reduce the incineration of biosolids to atmosphere and just trucking to landfills. Besides Milorganite there has few use cases except land application on existing farmlands. Which is far less refined than milorganite. I see Milorganite as the only solution with the greatest value add. And as we wake up to electric vehicles, solar and the such as viable alternatives. Consider the all the benefits of Milorganite. To say it's for first timers and not pros is far from the truth and the real world benefits of the product.
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 2 жыл бұрын
Never said it wasn’t for pros. Just said it’s a great product for beginners to learn with because you get the benefit of great results without the fear of burning the lawn. Like I said, I think it’s a great product. I’ll never deny the results it provided me. It’s just gotten too expensive over the last few years to justify the cost, and my soil doesn’t need the P.
@pilsplease7561
@pilsplease7561 6 ай бұрын
I have switched to full synthetic in my vineyard and orchard, has saved me so much money and just works.
@TrentJordan7
@TrentJordan7 4 жыл бұрын
LCN got me started on my journey like most. Mulching, dethatching/core aerating, and milorganite alone have boosted my lawn to one of the best in the community. But now, it's time for me to get smarter and get to the next level. This video is a start!
@frankgeorge9387
@frankgeorge9387 4 жыл бұрын
Translation: "I didn't use a product correctly, so I'm never using it again."
@babaki1
@babaki1 4 жыл бұрын
100%
@fordguyfordguy
@fordguyfordguy 4 жыл бұрын
This just seems sad and a little dumb. Kind of hard to believe what this guy did (failed to start with soil test) and decided to make a reaction video off of it.
@JoeSmith-ey6ur
@JoeSmith-ey6ur 4 жыл бұрын
I have to agree. I've used Milo for four years now and use it as instructed with no problems. I'm not new to lawn care and will NEVER use Scots or any other chem fertilizer
@HydroOnly
@HydroOnly 2 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅
@cappov
@cappov 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, now let me use every product.
@chrisschreiner9582
@chrisschreiner9582 4 жыл бұрын
You will be able to save yourself a lot of time and frustration by getting a text on the principles of turf grass management. While it’s good that you’ve decided to do a soil test, levels of NPK are only the start. pH and CEC result will give you a much better idea of your soil health. I’ve used Milorganite for over 30 years and love it, but like any other tool you have to know how to use it properly. One pound of N a month is more than excessive, it borders on toxic. Good luck with your turf this season.
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I'm always open to learning. Thanks!
@timothygriscom7110
@timothygriscom7110 4 жыл бұрын
Why did you exceed the recommended rate (by a lot) for the Milorganite?
@BrodeyDoverosx
@BrodeyDoverosx 3 жыл бұрын
Because the lawn (infomercial) youtubers are on a trend to use crap tests (yard mastery) that indicate crap info to enable using other niche products that make them more money.
@ChrisS-if7ev
@ChrisS-if7ev 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrodeyDoverosx seeing alot of that!!! ALOT!!! From wetting agents to whatever garbage they can try and pass off on people to earn their affiliate commissions.
@Renee5
@Renee5 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrodeyDoverosx I don't even purchase the products thru their links and they're working wonders on my lawn. if done right the products they push work great. it's not always about the commission if you know how to get around it.
@whatthewhat11
@whatthewhat11 4 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: Get a soil test, do what it says.
@colleencatalano3547
@colleencatalano3547 2 жыл бұрын
Agree! Milorganite might be the best for your lawn! It works wonders in mine and I have KBG.
@jamzach4
@jamzach4 4 жыл бұрын
Did the same as well Jimmy. Started using NeXT products with CarbonX and had even better results, that lasted longer. Great video - loved the multiple camera angles - very professional :-) Nicely done buddy
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott. Appreciate you watching. I'm looking forward to using those products again as well. Spring can't get here soon enough.
@eldesgraciado6690
@eldesgraciado6690 4 жыл бұрын
Milorganite is awesome. My lawn is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay greener than my neighbors'. I'm sure that my next door neighbor goes nuts trying to achieve my success in greendom.
@locutus1126
@locutus1126 2 жыл бұрын
you know your getting old when our goal is to have the greenest lawn on the street
@eldesgraciado6690
@eldesgraciado6690 2 жыл бұрын
@@locutus1126 I'm 29. Hey, they say that some liberals hate that some people like to have a nice lawn.
@380stroker
@380stroker 4 ай бұрын
LOL
@johnschmid2316
@johnschmid2316 4 жыл бұрын
This sounds like a video about someone realizing they have a cocaine problem
@scotttyger4856
@scotttyger4856 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't it though! I was fixing supper listening to this video and he said "and I was using a LOT of Milorganite" and that's exactly what I thought! Like he was shooting it or something!
@tomgesner9731
@tomgesner9731 4 жыл бұрын
Lol just use in spring and then in the fall and your solid will be great
@gman76utube
@gman76utube 4 жыл бұрын
Ya sounded like he’s talking to a drug counselor.
@musicgroopie1
@musicgroopie1 4 ай бұрын
I put down milorginite and water it in with miracle grow lawn food. Wow!!!! My yard looks like the Prince of Wales lawn.
@380stroker
@380stroker 4 ай бұрын
You water down with miracle grow right after laying down milorganite? How often do you water it with miracle grow? I might have to start doing this.
@MM-rw8jv
@MM-rw8jv 4 жыл бұрын
Been using Miloganite for years. It built me a great lawn, and for that i'm thankful. Milorganite is essentially the training wheels for the beginnings of DIY fertilization. Eventually though, we all need to understand how all that Phosphorous ends up getting bound up in the soil as well as metals etc. Throw down Milo for a few seasons to build up soil micobiology, but DO A SOIL TEST to see what is going on with your soil. There is no magic bullett in lawn care and the more you research and understand soil, the more you will see that. Lawns need Potassium to ward of diseases, where Milo is deficient. Carbon x fert and N-ext products have built me a beautiful lush thick stand of turf that is untouchable in my neighborhood. A mix of organics as well as synthetics ( at low doses) has worked wonders for my lawn.
@williamjohnson9727
@williamjohnson9727 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for spreading your knowledge. The lawn care community is the best.
@rodgersandrodgers8191
@rodgersandrodgers8191 Жыл бұрын
Well thought out!. I just became a new subscriber. Thank you for that explanation.
@robbiegolding1831
@robbiegolding1831 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the review bro. I was looking into this after seeing Allan's videos but thats alot of poundage and extra work .
@greghuizen
@greghuizen 4 жыл бұрын
Milo is still nice just because of the sheer amount of product you get to put through your spreader....makes it easy to ensure even coverage. Would be nice if there were more reasonably priced products with higher lbs per thousand....but it just doesn't make sense economically/logistically. I too will be looking for some alternatives for this season...
@ghost2coast296
@ghost2coast296 3 жыл бұрын
It brings me pride knowing my daily dump is going to green lawns all across the nation. I will never look at a flush the same way again. #brewcity
@DRK_BBQ
@DRK_BBQ 4 жыл бұрын
Whoa! Multiple camera angles. Jimmy's getting crafty
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
😎😉
@jaygonzalez3555
@jaygonzalez3555 4 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Texas, Jimmy! Great to see someone finally using their platform to inform everyone that as great as Milo is, it may be the wrong product for your lawn simply because of the macros. I've been preaching this same "common sense" fact for a couple of years and getting flamed for it. 🔥 It was incredible how much better my turf looked when I started using the right macros for my soil.
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jay! I appreciate that.
@jaygonzalez3555
@jaygonzalez3555 4 жыл бұрын
You da man, Jimmy! I dig your delivery and modesty. 👍🏽
@mixtecop
@mixtecop 3 жыл бұрын
*milorganite is the best fertilizer you can use for you lawn if you follow the instructions, I been using this fertilizer for the past five years and I tell you I have the nicest lawn in my neighborhood*
@mrman7453
@mrman7453 4 жыл бұрын
This said he fertilize every month heavy. Moat lawn guys fertilize by the holidays . Somebody call the EPA ....
@boskosdoghouse
@boskosdoghouse 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear all your information was based off of a soil test.,A soil test for lawns is no different than a blood test for a humans...facts are facts...no guess work as to the analysis/issues.. Thanks for the video
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Thanks!
@luminarylawnsco
@luminarylawnsco Жыл бұрын
Soil tests are key 👌 all great lawns begin with healthy balanced soil
@clausiusuf
@clausiusuf 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, Miloganite has been shown to have polyfluoroalykl substances which can not be removed from your soil. There are lots of great alternatives.
@Rich.-
@Rich.- 4 жыл бұрын
Milo Is wonderful if used correctly. You’re crazy not use it anymore. You must also use synthetics in conjunction with the Milo.
@alfredgistarb6169
@alfredgistarb6169 2 жыл бұрын
it didnt work for me either
@JoNathanB1976
@JoNathanB1976 4 жыл бұрын
Pegboard and workstation is looking sweet!
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm super happy with it.
@JettaTDI2005
@JettaTDI2005 Жыл бұрын
So I just came across this video and took a deep look at the Soil Savvy results, from quickly looking at the NPK ranges - Nitrogen promotes healthy leaf growth by encouraging the production of chlorophyll, which is a chemical vital to photosynthesis. Phosphorus helps your lawn develop healthy roots and stems. Potassium Supporting Root Development; this will help strengthen your lawn by firmly rooting grass into the soil to create a route of nutrient uptake to ensure overall health. This aids in winter survival as well as helping it look great in spring Looking at the Micronutrients section You are also a bit low on target area Soil testing is the most effective way to determine its pH level, any micronutrients that are lacking, and the best fertilizer for the lawn. For vigorous grass growth, make two to four applications of fertilizer, each at a rate of no more than one pound of nitrogen per 1000 square feet of lawn. Deeply watering the lawn a few days prior to fertilizing, only applying fertilizer when grass blades are dry and then watering the lawn lightly to wash fertilizer off of grass blades and down to the soil minimizes potential injury to grass blades and roots. I wish you the best with your yard
@CraigBarrettEsquire
@CraigBarrettEsquire 4 ай бұрын
Great content! I agree Milo is a great starter Fert for rubies like me but as you begin to appreciate the nuances of lawn care and the value of soil testing, one must consider all of the options that are best suited for your turf. Thanks for the insight!
@artieartya
@artieartya 4 жыл бұрын
Lesco FTW. never looked back. Also you the next products in conjunction.
@fescuefreddy6529
@fescuefreddy6529 4 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree I think it's a great product to start with and get spreading down pat before you get real serious and putting down what is needed
@05glisedan
@05glisedan 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting/sharing. On our St. Augustine grass, in south Florida. The following setup works great for us. We get deep green, fast growing grass (thanks to Jerry Baker) by adding Epsom salt. I look for the cheapest fertilizer (on clearance/broken taped bags) at HD, Lowes, anywhere. Add a 2lbs of epson salt (walmart - pharmacy dept.) to half the bag. Spread with hand crank spreader (our lawn is extremely big). Have the mower ready with a sharp blade in good running condition. That mix is like steroids, grass grows fast.
@MikeHaddadLawnAddictions
@MikeHaddadLawnAddictions 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Well put together. It’s 25$ a bag here in ny. So I’ll only spoon feed my lawn once in the spring. Then using other products
@cantwealljustgetalong2
@cantwealljustgetalong2 Ай бұрын
that's too much....now in 2024 its 17-21 bucks a bag at most places
@mikemorris8497
@mikemorris8497 4 жыл бұрын
I started following LCN just like you and everyone else 6 years ago. The same situation with Milo in our lawn . It’s awesome to learn from the community. Most of all our grass is SWEET ! Thanks for your videos.
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Mike.
@WillOakQuinPro
@WillOakQuinPro 3 жыл бұрын
Did LCN ever address the issue of people using Milo and then ending up with excessive amounts of phosphorus in their soil? After reading these comments and my personal experience along with some neighbors, seems to be a recurring theme...
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure if he’s addressed it specifically. It really comes back to soil testing and being willing to open up your strategy to other products. I’ve also since learned that my soil is naturally high in phosphorus, so there isn’t really any need for me to be applying products with P anyways.
@ranger2316
@ranger2316 3 жыл бұрын
@@JimmyLewisMows No ... because the stuff works great on St. Augustine down here in Florida. You just can't go wrong with the stuff. The sound of my lawn growing is keeping me awake at night!!!!
@Mark-zi2og
@Mark-zi2og 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you! I’m planning to only supplement this season with Milo. I’m planning on primarily leveraging Carbon-x and the Green County liquids! I definitely need to get a soil sample in the spring. Thanks for the vid Jimmy!
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Mark!
@show2ime
@show2ime 4 жыл бұрын
The biggest issue is people don’t knkw the application rates. I double up on the recommended application rate and have hd the greenest lawn on the block. I had true green and others ask me what was I doing because their customers were complaining that my lawn looks better than theirs. Is it all you need to do? No- but in combination with spraying a couple other things is all you need to do-
@dannyhernandez305
@dannyhernandez305 2 жыл бұрын
Double up? Did you do two passes?
@show2ime
@show2ime 2 жыл бұрын
@@dannyhernandez305 do just do dble the recommended application rate...
@NCGrassPlugs
@NCGrassPlugs 4 жыл бұрын
Good information, thanks for sharing!
@mr67gta
@mr67gta 4 жыл бұрын
$7.99 a bag in southeast Michigan. One of greenest lawns on the block and the worms airate the soil for free.
@neverenoughtime3151
@neverenoughtime3151 4 жыл бұрын
I'm curious, as I'm also in SE MI... Where are you getting it for that? (And you're talking 32lb bag?) Most places I've seen are $14 or higher, unless on sale (and even then it's marginally cheaper).
@jeremysears6707
@jeremysears6707 4 жыл бұрын
Family Farm and Home will have a spring sale, last year 8.99 a bag 👍🏻
@eddiesandle3650
@eddiesandle3650 4 жыл бұрын
10 bucks a bag? We get it here for $6 not on sale. $5 when it is on sale.
@ranger2316
@ranger2316 3 жыл бұрын
@@eddiesandle3650 Folks, that isn't much money for a good looking money. Throw it down and move on!
@DaddingAllDay
@DaddingAllDay 4 жыл бұрын
I have a bag and a half left. Once that’s gone I’m switching to something else as well.
@minnesotagrassgeek7797
@minnesotagrassgeek7797 4 жыл бұрын
Amen Brother! I am 100% on the same page. I used a few left over bags of Milorganite last year and I am not using any this season. Going with Carbon Earth Co products this year and RGS.
@handcannon4545
@handcannon4545 4 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% with you. I used milo for a few years, starting out with a terrible 2 acre yard. It was looking great but just never seemed healthy. Last 2 years I couldn't get enough milo to keep it going. So after realizing I've learned how to calibrate for the weeds, just calibrate for fertilizer. Did a soil test, figured out what I needed, a year later my lawn is beautiful and looks healthy. The same as you, very high P. Milo is a great stepping stone but the soil and root growth are the keys to a healthy lawn. I don't use all these high dollar ferts that everybody talks about. I get most of my stuff from my local ag center.
@BrodeyDoverosx
@BrodeyDoverosx 3 жыл бұрын
His phosphorous isn’t high. The test is garbage.
@angelaprater2679
@angelaprater2679 Жыл бұрын
I use Milorganitea great seed starter also and putting Scotts truff builder fertilizer answers killer I wait a month after and then shoot with milorganite turn dark green and helps the soil. Weeds gone all grass no brown spots and no weeds.
@killjoyous1060
@killjoyous1060 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I started my lawn care journey two years ago. Following LCN and using Milo. It was great for a beginner. This season however, i got away from Milo. I still have 6 bags saved for a rainy day tho. I am now confident in throwing down, and like to see what different products do to my lawn. But Milo started it all for me, and i will always recommend it to a beginner.
@bub6983
@bub6983 Жыл бұрын
Miloganite tells you it's good for 10-12 weeks. Why apply every 4 weeks?
@brianmarsee1497
@brianmarsee1497 Жыл бұрын
Well, I use milorganite. Also Scotts turf builder weed & feed, and 12-12-12. And I get all kinds of compliments, nice dark green and thick as a carpet...
@garykennedy5263
@garykennedy5263 4 жыл бұрын
I saw milo at Home Depot in Columbus Ohio last weekend at $16.99/bag. Thats too much. I have a half acre. 7-8 bags 3-4 times a year. I will go back to synthetics! Great vid btw.
@edgeofentropy3492
@edgeofentropy3492 4 ай бұрын
There is no difference between Milorganite and doodoo. Except your doodoo is fresh, has more moisture, and is free. I could not imagine myself being willing to grab a handful of dried, pelletized, doodoo from Milwaukee and spreading it all over my lawn.😂 Cleveland, from Family Guy said it best: That's nasty.
@Videogamerforlife69
@Videogamerforlife69 4 жыл бұрын
milorganite is $9 a bag here in Wisconsin, but depends what store you go to. some stores right up the road will get $17 a bag
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
That's interesting. I would think Wisconsin would have the lowest prices.
@razoray78
@razoray78 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Lawn. I still use Milorganite and I alternately apply it with Pure Organics which has no phosphorus, but have Pottasium in it. I do my application every six weeks, so I get consistent Nitrogen and some Pottasium or Phosphorus every other application. So far so good..
@1312Vb
@1312Vb 4 жыл бұрын
Where do you buy pure organics?
@razoray78
@razoray78 4 жыл бұрын
@@1312Vb bought from home depot. I normally stock up on ferts by Jan/Feb because they easily sold out from our local Home Depot or Lowes
@arielrodriguez6980
@arielrodriguez6980 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I am a beginner and just threw down 32 lbs of Milo in less then 1,000 sq ft. We will see what happens lol. I too have a hard time understanding how to weight the amount per sq footage. Example it mentions to use 6.5 lbs for every 500 ft. Well regardless of the spreader setting 6.5 lbs is nothing an the spreader is empty way before I can cover the 500 sq. ft.
@miles2075
@miles2075 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, I did the same exact thing. Started with milo and moved to something with higher N
@scotthamm7786
@scotthamm7786 4 жыл бұрын
I started using Milorganite in 2011. Way before I knew who the LCN was. I used to get it on sale for $6.99/bag until a couple years ago. I completely stopped 2 years ago when the price doubled and my local source stopped carrying it (Menards). I've since learned Milorganite is not a good organic solution because its pasteurized sludge and all the microbial activity is killed. I've found a MUCH better solution that has turned my lawn and soil structure around.
@kevinsolomita672
@kevinsolomita672 4 жыл бұрын
Sreamin green kid, try it out!!!! Best fert I've ever used. Been in the business 20+ years
@3pumpkins170
@3pumpkins170 4 жыл бұрын
Where do you get it from?
@kevinsolomita672
@kevinsolomita672 4 жыл бұрын
@@3pumpkins170 we grab it from lesco
@mdinatale12
@mdinatale12 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it is!!!!
@mdinatale12
@mdinatale12 4 жыл бұрын
I get it from my local sod company
@DavidLeBlanc
@DavidLeBlanc 4 жыл бұрын
My parents used Milorganite for years and I picked it up from them. Been using for decades now, as recommended on the bag - Easter, Memorial Day, Forth of July, Labor Day, and would use now if I could get it. I can't and switched to a similar Pennington product called ProCare. It's not quite strong, 4-3-0 as opposed to Milorganites 6-4-0. Both have iron in the mix. I live in Houston, TX and our heavy clay soil is deficient in potassium, so I do use a fertilizer with that element in it for the fall before the grass quits growing. Seems to work just fine here.
@micklewis3197
@micklewis3197 4 жыл бұрын
I like to throw down some Milo and follow it up a few weeks later with just a light application of urea. I seems to help utilize the iron in the Milo and gives me an amazing green with out super excessive growth. Thanks for the Vid!
@petedetraglia4776
@petedetraglia4776 4 жыл бұрын
Carbon X, Xgreen, and next bio stimulant 4 pack...all ya need for a season of incredible looking grass. Also spring and fall weed control and insect control... Nice video Jimmy. I also am shying away from Milorganite due to the phosphorous issue.
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Pete. Sounds like we have pretty similar game plans going into this season. Should be fun.
@lew708
@lew708 Жыл бұрын
From your experience, seems like the soil test is where people need to start, then go to the Milorganite if the lawn needs it.
@justordinaryeverydaylife7977
@justordinaryeverydaylife7977 4 жыл бұрын
I still get Milo delivered right to my garage for $11.00 a bag after shipping and tax from HD. The Menards knock off is about $8.99 but I have to pick it up and the prill is larger. I like Milo it has been a staple supplement in my lawn since 2007.
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
That's a great deal, especially with shipping and tax included. Are you buying in bulk? Unfortunately, deals like that aren't available everywhere. I just checked online and it looks like HD is asking $15.98/bag and delivery is not available to me, nor is it available in my local store.
@CP-rm7rz
@CP-rm7rz 4 жыл бұрын
Milo also lacks K. soil test is important to determine exactly what one requires
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree.
@joshbaker1639
@joshbaker1639 4 жыл бұрын
I’m limiting my Milo apps to just the summer application. $18 a bag here so just the one app of that, and I think the summer would be the best bet as I want to still stay away from synthetic in the heat.
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
$18 a bag is so much
@joshbaker1639
@joshbaker1639 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. I can get away with just 2 bags to give me 1/2 lb of N, which combined with the Next products should get me through the summer. That’s the plan at least, we’ll see in time 😁
@brians2733
@brians2733 Жыл бұрын
I think the lesson here should be that Milorganite has its place in a lawn care regimen but shouldn’t be the only product that is used. It was great when it was $8/bag. It’s $15/bag in my area now and I only use it when the temperatures are high and I’m concerned with burning the lawn (usually the Memorial Day and July 4th feeding times). Every feeding doesn’t need to supply microbial nutrients and it’s more cost effective to use synthetics.
@chesleyrenater6158
@chesleyrenater6158 4 жыл бұрын
15.98 here in North Augusta , SC and Augusta ,GA . Thanks for video !
@TheFirstRealChewy
@TheFirstRealChewy 4 жыл бұрын
I just put some down today. I picked it up for $10/bag. I am only using one application of it for the year which should last until the end of August. My soil has enough phosphorus so I mostly use Lesco without phosphorus.
@Jjredred
@Jjredred 4 жыл бұрын
Lol why you talking like your dog died? You were using milo completely wrong, thats why your soil test was jacked up. Milo a once a year thing
@kswift672000
@kswift672000 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! My lawn started turning a yellowish green ! Was putting down super heavy!
@cantwealljustgetalong2
@cantwealljustgetalong2 Ай бұрын
lol a yellowish green? that doesn't happen from milorganite
@fortnite360HZ
@fortnite360HZ 3 жыл бұрын
Jonathan green is harder to get but worth every penny I buy it online
@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb
@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb Жыл бұрын
If you're a beginner (or a pro), do a yearly soils test. Best money you'll spend on your garden. As for Milorganite and any other sewage sludge product, be very leery of heavy metals/pesticides/chemicals. Plenty of horror stories about farmers using similar 'cheap' fertilizer and turning their fields into hazardous waste sites.
@thomasvideoa
@thomasvideoa Жыл бұрын
I paid $7 per bag about 5 years ago, and $21 per bag today. That is the real inflation.
@CesarMartinez-tp4bx
@CesarMartinez-tp4bx 4 жыл бұрын
Here in CT Danbury I must say Screamin green has done wonders for me .. I’ll be adding Biostems liquid pack thnx to LCN 👍
@4ndy123
@4ndy123 4 жыл бұрын
Reading random comments and I see CT - Danbury. I worked at a summer camp in lakeville! 😀
@420lawncare
@420lawncare 3 жыл бұрын
@@4ndy123 have you ever been to brothers pizza ?
@4ndy123
@4ndy123 3 жыл бұрын
@@420lawncare I know Mizza's pizza. I went to some very random towns... Torrington. Great Barrington was nice though.
@TheLawnShark
@TheLawnShark 4 жыл бұрын
Great information and perspective. Thanks!
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@TheLawnShark
@TheLawnShark 4 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Lewis Absolutely! Video looks great and no glitches! 🙂
@380stroker
@380stroker 4 ай бұрын
I just laid down some milorganite. I'm hoping to make my retired boomer neighbors all jelly.
@gramps5157
@gramps5157 3 жыл бұрын
What's the problem with a higher phosphorus reading?
@jcmo69
@jcmo69 Жыл бұрын
How do you feel about now about Milorganite being found to contain the forever chemical contaminants which are now spread all over your yard?
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows Жыл бұрын
Oh well 🤷‍♂️
@davkime1
@davkime1 4 жыл бұрын
FYI, Menards (also a Wisconsin company) sells a very close alternative house brand for about $9. I will start with that and see how it does. Agreed that it makes no sense to buy Milorganiye, especially at the Amazon price of approx $48 right now! Natural Lawn Fertilizer - 2,500 sq. ft. Model Number: 260-1210 Menards® SKU: 2601210
@MrJimhughes727
@MrJimhughes727 4 жыл бұрын
Home Depot. 18.99
@corybertram3248
@corybertram3248 4 жыл бұрын
$9.99 at Fleet Farm for a 32# bag of Milorganite.
@bobbg9041
@bobbg9041 2 жыл бұрын
I can get a no name brand that isn't labeled the same. It comes in 50 lb bags i belive and its very slow acting product But keep in mind you may want to use other products with it to lower the pH. Im thinking of using a spray on fertilizer for ease of use and coverage. Just need to build a sprayer type pull behind system.
@Bill-ck3lo
@Bill-ck3lo 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t get it. You say milo is getting way to expensive at $15.99 per 32 lb bag; .50 cents per lb, yet $58 per 45 lb bag of XGN is $1.28 per lb....I’ll stick with Milo thanks
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. There's another way to look at cost for fertilizer, and that's how much you're paying per each 1,000 square feet of coverage. For example, Milorganite at $16/bag covers 2,500 sq. ft. $16/2500 sq. ft x 1,000 gives you $6.40 per 1,000 square feet. XGN at $58 covers 11,000 square feet. The same formula gives you $5.27 per 1,000. CarbonX is $65/bag and covers 15,000 square feet. That's $4.33 per 1,000 feet. Hope that math makes sense. Also interesting to note is the prices for XGN and CarbonX also factor in shipping costs. But like I said in the video, it's not just price that I'm weighing here. It's the results from my soil test, and learning to find products that fit the needs of my soil.
@DIYDad1
@DIYDad1 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve limited the Milorganite that I use because my phos levels are higher than the other macros. Also their parent company MMSD dumps a lot into the lakes when they can’t handle the demand so there’s that 🤨I couldn’t have said it better myself though, test your soil and apply what is actually required for your lawn!
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Do you have a source for the dumping excess claim?
@DIYDad1
@DIYDad1 4 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Lewis every few months a similar story like this pops up. fox6now.com/2018/08/31/mmsd-dumps-nearly-30m-gallons-of-combined-sewer-storm-water-into-lake-michigan-after-heavy-rain/
@DIYDad1
@DIYDad1 4 жыл бұрын
And I live 30 minutes from Milwaukee so they are local to me and I get it for $7 a bag so yeah I could go nuts with high app rates without breaking the bank if I really wanted to lol.
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
$7/bag is a great price. Thanks for the link.
@DIYDad1
@DIYDad1 4 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Lewis you should have seen my face when I saw it on sale for $5.99 a bag last spring 🤣. I only did two applications earlier on but after that I switched to lesco.
@fortnite360HZ
@fortnite360HZ 3 жыл бұрын
Never used Milorganite I usually use starter fertilizer in spring with overseeding and then just use DR IRON 22% iron as a supplement get a really dark green color without having the excess growth that's my strategy works amazing I am from Canada grass being used is Kentucky BLUE
@newtonbrook
@newtonbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Milorganite is unavailable in Canada. I find that applying a good slow release fertilizer three times a year will give you excellent results on a lawn. Do not try and push it through summer dormancy. Focus on watering during the heat, add a moisture retention product if possible.
@shaunmathew
@shaunmathew 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, do you recommend any milorganite alternatives that are available in Canada?
@888HUSKERS
@888HUSKERS 4 жыл бұрын
Wait what ... “I was putting down 5 bags of Milorganite a month” 😧 ... Holy Milwaukee crap Batman that’s a lot of Nitrogren and Phosphorus. That’s 160 pounds of Milorganite (if it was the 32Lbs bags), 9.6 pounds of Nitrogen, and 6.4 pounds of phosphorus a month ... wowsers. So if it truly was full rate 5 bags would mean your yard is near 12,500 square feet which would mean every month you threw down .768 Lbs of nitrogen. If your growing season was only 6 months on the conservative side that’s 4.608 lbs of nitrogen per 1,000 square feet for the year (if your lawn is 12,500). That’s an extremely high rate of nitrogen for a plant you’re not growing as a for profit crop. I don’t fault you for it because I think everyone has done this at some point in their lawn journey. Maybe this is why teaching measuring lawns every year for new viewers and discussing what is a normal amount of nitrogen per 1,000 square feet per year is so important. It’s a classic just because you can doesn’t mean you should lesson. I did the exact same thing you did but I recently switched to a lower total nitrogen program tailored to my lawns needs and with less than 2 lbs of nitrogen per 1,000 I had the best lawn I’ve ever had. A lot of it was small spoon feeding, lowering PH slowly, responsibly applying soil supplements, applying potassium, and not over watering. It felt so good to hear all the compliments this year especially when people would ask what company I was paying to spray my lawn and I’d say I do it myself. Each lawn is a little different because there are so many variables but Milorganite is a great stepping stone until you feel comfortable taking a deeper dive into the lawn through soil samples, forum research, reading university white papers, and asking industry pros who’ve been at it for a long time. My biggest problem now isn’t the fertilizer program, herbicides, or fungicides. Now it’s finding project lawns of friends and family then fixing their lawn or getting permission to experiment with this new found knowledge responsibly. I’ve recently dove into the world of elite cultivars and university trial studies. After doing a renovation on a family member’s lawn and them going from the worst yard in a half mile radius to the deepest lushest green lawn with low N input has bitten me with the lawn renovation bug. My lawn is beautiful so now I’m looking for other lawns to “flip” renovate like the one I did last year.
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
Well said. Thanks for the math! Also, I hope you typed all that on a desktop and not on your phone 🙃
@888HUSKERS
@888HUSKERS 4 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Lewis I typed it out on an iPad mini which I’ve become very proficient at typing with except the occasional auto-correct issues here and there. I edited a word from my post because of a misspelling and I lost the Jimmy Lewis loves your comment 😞. I love the channel, the content, how you present it, and the generous give away which I used on a lawn renovation last year.
@chadloon2315
@chadloon2315 4 жыл бұрын
Puts down milo onece a month wonders why there’s too much phosphorus. Follow the directions and milorgonite works just fine
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
Lesson learned. Happy to use it again if my soil test results allow for more P and if the retail price comes down.
@garyg6000
@garyg6000 Жыл бұрын
Nice yard.
@georgefitter7656
@georgefitter7656 3 жыл бұрын
Because of the price increase, I do one year on, one year off with Milorganite.
@averagejoeslawncare176
@averagejoeslawncare176 4 жыл бұрын
You make a good point. I'm from the Milwaukee area and grew up watching my dad and grandpa using milo. I did my first soil test showing high Phosphorus and will not be using the stuff this year. Though, I will miss that smell of success.
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
I miss it too
@luckyrocks1
@luckyrocks1 11 ай бұрын
I use Milorganite in the fall when it’s available and on sale, after dethatching and overseeding with great results. Not the best product for spring application though in my experience.
@tctulloch
@tctulloch 4 жыл бұрын
That's pretty cool. I had a similar issue last year. I did two soil tests. One was on my mostly zoysia front lawn which gets a ton of sun. The other was on my cool season back yard. My front yard had very high P, so I switched to Lawn Restore and kept the Milorganite for the back yard. I'm interested to see what my soil tests on the spring will show.
@johamu4
@johamu4 3 жыл бұрын
I inherited a lawn a couple hours south of yours. It has had nothing put on it for 2 years. It tested "adequate" phosphorus. I think you may have misattributed the high P to Milorganite? May just be the nature of the local soil. I too will be using a X-0-X fertilizer. Your Ca and Mg are "off the charts" because of the hard water in the area.
@OmaBike
@OmaBike 4 жыл бұрын
Ok. Now I have to check the prices. Watching to see if I can save some money.
@daryl4841
@daryl4841 3 жыл бұрын
I was eager to use this product on the lawn at my new house, but then I decided not to for the same reason as you. My soil test came back with too much phosphorus, 66 ppm. Maybe the previous owners were hooked on Milorganite!
@willemh3319
@willemh3319 4 жыл бұрын
so i also can use chicken and cow menurepellets size of M&M sometimes a bit smaller depending on brand
@JohnDiMartino
@JohnDiMartino 4 жыл бұрын
Milorganite became popular a couple of years ago? Where have you been it was popular back in 99-2000.... I stopped using it back then because it got too expensive. Phosphorus is always high in soil samples , most of it is unavailable to the plant . It’s been illegal in NY to apply a phosphorus fertilizer unless it’s a new install , a soil test indicates it is low, or it’s a spot lawn repair.
@mrBDeye
@mrBDeye 4 жыл бұрын
The big box stores don't sell Milorganite where I live anymore.
@marx769
@marx769 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you! Can't a potassium supplement be put in with the Milo mix??
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yes I would absolutely recommend supplementing potassium when using Milo. Potassium is a very important macronutrient that the grass plant requires. Planning a video around that actually.
@kgj1119
@kgj1119 4 жыл бұрын
Since you had high phosphorus levels how was your root growth? And how will it be affected using no phosphorus? Will you eventually have to go back to a phos containing product
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely going to monitor root growth. My understanding is the soil in my area contains phosphorus, so that's helpful as well. If I need to add phosphorus down the road, no big deal, because the soil will need it. It's all about learning from the soil test results and adjusting strategies to give the soil what it needs.
@JaxTropics
@JaxTropics Жыл бұрын
there was a nursery here where I live that had it at $29 per bag.
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows Жыл бұрын
😳
@fordrac1ng81
@fordrac1ng81 4 жыл бұрын
I use milorganite along with fast nitrogen. 10-10-10 in the spring, then milorganite, then small doses of urea (I have leftover from my corn crop and it's 46-0-0) for nitrogen every few weeks.
@dandylawnandmaintenance4407
@dandylawnandmaintenance4407 4 жыл бұрын
Good call. It is a great product however to much hype. I would still use it but say on a backyard that allot of kids play in. I would not use it every application but just sometimes to keep things going with a safe product.
@JimmyLewisMows
@JimmyLewisMows 4 жыл бұрын
Good ideas. Thanks.
@johnbreitbach9803
@johnbreitbach9803 2 жыл бұрын
I used for the first time ever this summer... I got the worst ever lawn rust and mushrooms all over ??
@sentient8146
@sentient8146 Жыл бұрын
My kingdom for an unlimited supply of good ole cow manure. Dried and screened. I do wish milorganite was cheaper because i don't get any burn.
@houliemon1315
@houliemon1315 2 жыл бұрын
I use to haul trailer dump loads of it from Quincy Ma . Most loads went to turf farms in RI ,CT . some corn farms also .
@KhaiNguyen-ty5fm
@KhaiNguyen-ty5fm Жыл бұрын
BayState fertilizer (5-2-0) price is still the same for many years $3.50 but you have to buy 1 ton (50 bags).
@markg6860
@markg6860 4 жыл бұрын
The Milorganite folks got greedy. Anything over $10 a bag is expensive for what is essentially dried poo! I use it once a year in the springtime, then I just use a cheap lawn tonic (monthly) made from household ingredients. The biggest improvement in my St Augustine lawn was cutting twice a week and cutting it high ... the highest setting on my Troy Bilt.
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