No More Talented Vocalists in K-Pop?! Why K-Pop Idols Are Getting Called Out for Lacking Talent

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Ай бұрын

Some K-Pop groups such as LE SSERAFIM and others have been continously criticized for their lacking vocal skills. It got to the point when fans are no longer cutting them any slack and call them out for not working hard enough.
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@imdaisy123 Ай бұрын

i m not a hater but yeah lee sserafim vocals was literally below average

@duniyadari8869 Ай бұрын

You are true

@musafaheem7197 Ай бұрын

I Agree

@sachsandy2860 Ай бұрын

Not only them...all groups are the same.

@Glowxdebby Ай бұрын

I agree

@imdaisy123 Ай бұрын

@@sachsandy2860 yeah fr, it was really disappointing , now many people gonna come after me for saying this ,but its their job to sing and dance at the same time

@mithrielshiranui4575 Ай бұрын

I really hate that 'trend'. It's MUSIC INDUSTRY not FACE or INFLUENCER INDUSTRY.

@ak99414 Ай бұрын

Exactly😂

@justrob5905 Ай бұрын

Unfortunately the music industry actually is a face and influence r industry because the 25 and below age demographic made it that way with there super short attention spans. Basically 8 out 10 people buy what they see there favorite entertainer is using because of there face meaning reputation and more importantly there influence.

@Theinfamouskiki411 Ай бұрын

It's not the MUSIC industry anymore. It hasn't been about the music since 2018😂😂😂

@Theinfamouskiki411 Ай бұрын

@@justrob5905standing ovation!! This this!!! It's a brand

@mithrielshiranui4575 Ай бұрын

@@Theinfamouskiki411 It's true, I know. But I'm still salty about it.

@smalllightbulb3492 Ай бұрын

For me the saddest part is people defending this lack of live vocals and then turning around asking why no one takes K-pop seriously.

@aesserafim585 Ай бұрын

honestly so embarrassing to be a fearnot right now. you can defend their dance and stage presence but the vocals are unexplainable

@KpopNiDontStop Ай бұрын

idk where you are from but Kpop is taken very seriously probably for years now that's literally why Le sserafim was invited to coachella and many other groups lately to an American music festival.

@tzuyu9283 Ай бұрын

its very rare for Kpop idols to perform with 100% live vocals. Nearly every stage has some sort of vocal enhancement. Kpop stans losing their minds because they only watched a 10 second tik Tok of an idols voice cracking will always be hilarious to me

@clemy5511 Ай бұрын

@@KpopNiDontStopThey were just invited cause k-pop fans are good monney givers.

@TaylorLeeKnow Ай бұрын

@@KpopNiDontStopYou do know Hype has partnered with Scooter Braun so it’s obvious one of the Hype members performing. Connections are everything. I wish Seventeen performed though.

@fahimmaf2469 Ай бұрын

Imagine EXO an already top tier vocal group needs to take a lesson about vocals. That's how we know they are no jokes and they take their career seriously.

@abuagevhsvshsueue Ай бұрын

Thats true ❤

@_________dd Ай бұрын

Older groups have more respect for artistry as vocalists. They take vocal lessons, sometimes participate in the music production, and some even write their songs. The 4th and 5th gen tend to focus on gaining popularity on social media, looking pretty, and neglect the main job they're supposed to do, which is music.

@TaylorLeeKnow Ай бұрын

I learned classical singing and it’s true we are adviced to practice regularly. If you skip practicing for one day, the voice gets weak so practicing daily is a must.

@yamijimenes7268 Ай бұрын

Baekhyun told eunchae the secret to last long in the industry is to never lose interest in what you do.

@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan Ай бұрын

Yeah SM artists are really the standard in terms of vocals and performance even their older artists still have a mentality of wanting to improve more than the previous comeback and so forth. Even their newer artists like RIIZE and Aespa, they are still amazingly good.

@madehamahbub3870 Ай бұрын

When Xiumin talked about vocals and singing ability everyone was on his assss now you get what he meant ?

@strawberrymilkshake5419 Ай бұрын

I saw that too he's advice on trainees .. no matter how good a dancer you are if you're not good at singing live-- it is something a matter to discuss bout talent he said

@madehamahbub3870 Ай бұрын

@@strawberrymilkshake5419 this 4th 5th gens are idol wannabee tiktokers nothing more

@idk-kx8nx Ай бұрын

YES and i knew what he said would come back in a big way and it did!!

@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan Ай бұрын

Xiumin is an example of what the industry needs to be like now

@webmasterd Ай бұрын

right. I mean it's common sense. this ain't no dance competition. if you can't deliver on stage decent singing then might as well not be a performer.

@MyHandle4455 Ай бұрын

Damn, their Coachella performance will go down in history… for all the wrong reasons. Never imagined they’d get so much shit for it.

@yeongyu22 Ай бұрын

So true but They didn't did much either and their hate train literally overshadowed ateez 😢 we should have focused on ateez rather than le sserafim but I guess we can't have good things to enjoy anymore

@flyd.flowlight9057 Ай бұрын

i saw it coming after that encore. they were already struggling singing standing still, now they get thrown into coachella? outdoors at night + singing + impractical choreo + wind and sand blasting their faces constantly... what could go wrong 😂😂

@yeongyu22 Ай бұрын

But why did Hype had to send le sserafim to Coachella it is so expensive even to attend, just for popularity which out to be their worst decision

@yzy.wu03 Ай бұрын

really hate to say this, But Blackpink really heated up the stage and got the crowd dancing and partying!

@jenjoestar. Ай бұрын

@@yzy.wu03yea Blackpink definitely went down in Coachella history

@Phd366 Ай бұрын

I don’t really care if idols lip sync once in a while, but if you are going to be a singer, you better have good vocals. I’m tired of participation trophies

@DUNGSTA Ай бұрын

EASY song of the year?

@diyachaudhari9520 Ай бұрын

@@DUNGSTAnope

@TristanLoh4200 Ай бұрын

@@DUNGSTA give that award to drama... aespa really deserves that cuz you can see how so many fans enjoy vibing to it and how well the song was structured overall

@Stellaryz Ай бұрын

@@DUNGSTA easy is a great song but calling that song "The song of the year" is really wrong….

@DUNGSTA Ай бұрын

@@Stellaryz it's a bop

@joeblack7326 Ай бұрын

Their company should have kept GFRIEND instead. Those girls can actually sing and perform live with ease, even in 2x speed.

@SDP1359 Ай бұрын

😭😭😭 I'm still not over it. Will never forgive SouMu

@Cherylmayblii Ай бұрын

It hurts soooooo bad bc gfriend could’ve kept their career and lesserafim would’ve had more time to prepare and improve their skillset 😭😭😭

@vixxexo6855 Ай бұрын

They should have given Gfriend Le Sserafim’s songs. They have better vocals and dancers. Sinb is better dancer then all of Le Sserafim.

@solarflame-he6cw Ай бұрын

@@vixxexo6855no I have to disagree with you there. Yes sinb is a great dancer but Le Sserafim are great dancers too

@ryeooppa8647 Ай бұрын

Karma! SouMu is getting bitten by Karma, for disbanding Gfriend. Prioritizing Lesserafim over them. Haters don't come to me, I'm a fearnot, musically their songs are good with autotune and music engineers who craft their voices. But them and Illit do need vocal classes before having next comeback.

@Eszti2000 Ай бұрын

It seems that the only thing kpop idols have to be good at is being pretty. It feels more like debuting models rather than idols.

@duniyadari8869 Ай бұрын

You are saying truth

@asingphilongleng5843 Ай бұрын

Honestly, eveyrone just feels like models, ig influencers and tiktokers now.

@mymasmith7848 Ай бұрын

These days Visual > dancing > vocals. Back when, Vocals > dancing > visual.

@universe986 Ай бұрын

thankfully we still have 2nd and 3rd gen groups being active

@emilyann4504 Ай бұрын

No matter how people try to twist pretty words that "tHEse DAyS iTs NOt jUsT ABouT vOCals".. It is clear vocal abilities should come FIRST, everything else comes second and third. It's high time people realise that, and fans should not try to engage in fanwars when one was talking about vocal prowess but try to "clapback" with anything other than vocal abilities

@MilkyMinkymomo Ай бұрын

2NE1, SNSD, Miss A, Sistar and many more 2nd Gen GGs sang LIVE, looked great and most even danced in heels!! Times have changed 🥺

@Kimeesunshine Ай бұрын

Yeeeeaaah and often the live was better

@Kimeesunshine Ай бұрын

Remember Apink live were the audio cut ? They sounded exactly the same as the studio version

@218bird8 Ай бұрын

After School's Bang! (drum dance) and First Love (pole dance)... I miss After School sm 🥺

@danissegomez7953 Ай бұрын

SNSD always dance in heels❤❤❤

@kikiteu Ай бұрын

Well fith generation are bringing back vocals, yea except for hybe gg. Kiss of life, baemon, riize and let's say boynextdoor cause of jaehyun. They are really good and there interaction reminds me of 2nd generation.

@willieseth740 Ай бұрын

Back in the day, K-pop companies debuted idols who were able to SING LIVE very well. Besides the dancing and the looks, being able to sing was one of the three elements that mattered. These days, K-pop companies debut idols, some of whom are even underage, to make a profit and they throw those kinds who have zero to no experience into the public eye. The K-pop industry is geared towards hyperproduction, and the fans are getting so many mediocre songs, idols who aren't able to sing one song live, and so many other things. Today idols are dancers who can sing in the studio.

@tzuyu9283 Ай бұрын

You…do..know…making mistakes and sounding bad sometimes is literally part of performing right?

@willieseth740 Ай бұрын

@@tzuyu9283 That is totally okay because they are humans too, the idols can also have bad days. That's totally understandable. I was speaking in general. The last few years, the idols that have been debuting are sounding so bad live, with exceptions of course. Can barely sing one song live, and don't even get me started on their encore performances. Like I said, nowadays the agencies are debuting dancers not singers. If you want to be an idol you need to sound and sing decent, at least stay in tune. What we see these days are minors who are dancing well with very bad and undeveloped vocals.

@J.e_y. Ай бұрын

@@tzuyu9283yes but not at every performances

@asssj6 Ай бұрын

goshh dont start with the mediocre songs. I started to hate the sound of kpop nowadays. The repetitive beats, repetitive verse with nonsense lyrics by throwing english words here and there.

@justicedinosaur7302 Ай бұрын

The hyperproduction is what makes kpop kpop and it seems to be working out for them... it's the differentiating factor between kpop and jpop

@srideout91 Ай бұрын

I am so tired of K-pop fans calling, screaming a high note. Most of the videos or shorts you see of people praising these idols of hitting high notes are just these idols screaming at the top of their lungs into a microphone.

@tiffanypadilla1169 Ай бұрын

Or call holding a note a high note

@rubiirae Ай бұрын

better to be able to hit or hold a note than tone deaf and singing off keys

@martinramirez4433 Ай бұрын

if u think about it is all our fault as a Kpop fans cuse we let this type of things get in our way and we still buy their albums and go to their fan meetings so those company thinks well we making money no matter if our group cant sing so lets just keep it this way. I bet you the day we stop spending our money on groups that has no talent that is wen companies gonna start training their idols better and we will see better group in the future ahead of us but again all depend on us to make the changes

@yamijimenes7268 Ай бұрын

And many people got mad with xiumin when he told SM trainees they won't look talented no matter how good you are at dancing, singing is more important

@mysteriogaming478 Ай бұрын

Did I just hear that right they have selfie lessons 💀 and I agree now companies just focus on visuals then giving there idols proper vocals lessons for 5th gen

@ihavaepotaetoe2418 Ай бұрын

They're even spending more time on TikTok rather than improving their horrible vocals and their fans say give them time like wtf

@mysteriogaming478 Ай бұрын

@@ihavaepotaetoe2418 that fact that they are taking selfie lessons got me like really taking lessons to upload a picture I think that’s the most stupidest thing I’ve heard you don’t need selfie lessons just take a picture and that’s it

@MissNAL_1 Ай бұрын

It's Ive who has selfie lessons not Lsfm

@mysteriogaming478 Ай бұрын

@@MissNAL_1 oh ok but still though why selfie lessons that’s the most weirdest thing I’ve ever heard off when it comes to idol training

@solarflame-he6cw Ай бұрын

@@ihavaepotaetoe2418they aren’t horrible. They just aren’t good as they can be. Hybe need to get the girls more vocal lessons though

@pabblo101 Ай бұрын

I'll say it, Hybe ruined K-pop.

@ohreolli9202 Ай бұрын

Preach louder 🙌🙌🙌

@Danyikuromi Ай бұрын

Facts

@VvuAnzelika Ай бұрын

Hybe + blinded fans = ruined kpop

@invadero.o963 Ай бұрын

With everything that has been going on right now yes, they're ruining kpop. They should've just kept BTS tbh

@flor07 Ай бұрын

This! ☝🏼 ☝🏼

@alvaromartinezcordones1160 Ай бұрын

One thing I praise and I will always be proud of is how SM priorizes vocals. They know what they do and what theyve been doing all the time

@HeartsofPearl Ай бұрын

if i'm not wrong SM don’t give them vocals classes (only before they debut). Are the artists under SM who pay those vocals classes during their career but yeah, at least this is something important for sm's artists and you can see that this is almost ''cultural'' among them doesn’t matter the generation

@Aelitagurl Ай бұрын

@HeartsofPearl Very true. SM makes sure to instill into their artists that vocals are priority 👏 other companies need to follow by example otherwise they'll continue to let their artists fall by the wayside

@aespicysone Ай бұрын

I admire sm artists coz they truly have respect for their craft as they improve over time

@PoojaSharma-xx1iz Ай бұрын

I don't understand NCT's songs. It's just noise and they just repeat their song title in the main part. There's no doubt each member's vocals are individually very good, but their songs are just not it. I am allowed to state my opinion, so please don't come at me.

@songkang3xsrvx Ай бұрын

@@PoojaSharma-xx1izevery songs has repetitive title

@JoshuaIsMine Ай бұрын

These days, K-pop idols seem to be more like models than singers.

@joysotic488 Ай бұрын

Goes to show how rare Mamamoo is, they are amazing live

@lovelyabbyparcarey9604 Ай бұрын

definitely mamamoo ❤

@pleezahful Ай бұрын

My favorite gg

@mtasnimxira Ай бұрын

Yap mamamoo and seventeen ❤❤

@ninadee7407 Ай бұрын

But it proves the point. Mamamoo and SVT are 3rd gen.

@BELIEVER78989 Ай бұрын

Yes I was thinking the same, how cool it would have been if Mamamoo were invited to Coachella, those ladies know how to put up a great show❤

@lovelypanda8676 Ай бұрын

The lack of lessons is just one half of the problem. They should stop debuting toddlers who haven't even finished developing phisically, including their vocal chords.

@ninadee7407 Ай бұрын

This. So this. Yeah, there are the wunderkinds who can create mature sounds at a young age, but teen years aren't the vocal prime. When I was in college choir, our director implored us to sing like 40 year olds.

@DUNGSTA Ай бұрын

Bruh Eun-chae wasn't the problem 😂

@bdh711 Ай бұрын

Sakura has been debuted for over 10 years it’s not even about the age they just have no talent

@BeMyArt Ай бұрын

@@bdh711or good vocal trainers. She worries about it alot but hybe (bighit) never had vocal professionals as SM.

@SpringRae Ай бұрын

I think K Pop will survive in South Korea but will fail globally if they don’t improve vocals and stop turning out “copies” of what other artist have already done.

@silververnallbells191 Ай бұрын

YG has no imagination. Baby Monster is a weaker version of 2NE1. Instead of putting a group together and let them be self-produced and let them shine, YG himself is producing poor imitations of Teddy Park's production. He is far too controlling over his artists. 2NE1 did a whole album w/Will.i.am, but YG declined to release it. You're really telling me there was not at least 2 to 3 good songs that could have been released? I know of several young and talented singers who are independent, but are auditioning not only on the West, but for Korean labels as well. Take *C.GEANE* (Check out her song *Wild Flower*) She can sing, rap, writes everything herself, but if she joined a Korean label she'd have to go on a starvation diet, get skin bleaching, and conform.. OR MAYBE she would somehow get lucky and they would just accept her as she is! (I know long shot, but it's still worth putting it out into the universe.)

@mbrow Ай бұрын

What's funny is that some fans think that epic groups like SHINee and EXO are old and washed up, when in reality, these groups can totally dominate and wipe the floor with many younger groups. It also doesn't help that some new groups and songs are cranked out like they're on an assembly line. And yes, there are other epic groups of previous generations and yes, there are some great new groups, so no need to comment, "Well, what about ...?"

@taemmate Ай бұрын

i hate when people dont care abt older groups so what they still have best vocalists and talent i wanna see more of them instead of talentless kids

@danissegomez7953 Ай бұрын

SM artists be like: don't include us 😂🔥🔥🔥😎

@BellaStarz Ай бұрын

singing is the first thing that these idols should be practice before they debut

@MyC-mw6mg Ай бұрын

They will be remembered as the idols who can't sing.

@DUNGSTA Ай бұрын

Bruh arent they the best dancing gg?

@Rin-vj4wg Ай бұрын

It’s hard because they came right after gfriend disbanded, a very vocally rounded group was suddenly replaced by one that tends to struggle with meeting vocal standards.

@fxfijjcgck4567 Ай бұрын

the notion that 'they don't need to know how to sing well' is unbelievably dumb to me, most of their job revolves around producing music. if they don't write lyrics or produce the song they should be able to sing or rap as those are the things that go into making a song. you can be strong in another position and have a relatively weak vocal ability in your group but you should still be able to sing or rap to a degree. you can sound good in the studio but if you can't even get close to that live you shouldnt be singing that bit. along with the fact that some companies (cough cough hybe) are giving groups choreos that would greatly hinder the ability of vocalists strong or weak.

@watashi5700 Ай бұрын

I think most people feel this way, but your last point is the most important. Sure, they could use some vocal lessons, but those won't necessarily translate into better live vocals because you CANNOT have proper breath support while doing intense choreography. Being able to breathe is the basis of singing. You can't remain stable while moving your torso, spining or jumping because you quickly run out of breath to even hold a note. It's literally counterproductive

@user-qc3zc5lq5d Ай бұрын

Nowadays KPOP industry just want some dancers with good face . 😅

@laivvetime Ай бұрын

Luckily, I'm a Carat. 💎 I never have to worry about anyone calling Seventeen out for lacking talent. They're not just idols, but also comedians. 😂

@JoshuaIsMine Ай бұрын

I was looking for this comment..😭

@cry4seul Ай бұрын

I'm an nctzen and I could say the same💀 Lol we stan the same type of idols

@intp0p Ай бұрын

@@cry4seul some nct members do lack on singing but they are all good dancers

@cry4seul Ай бұрын

@@intp0p ofc that's why positions exist

@lillikorner2818 Ай бұрын

Me being both carat and nctzen bc both groups have so good Vocalist‘s. (not just vocalist‘s tho)

@randomcomments2454 Ай бұрын

I hate that this is going viral, but people forgot that ATEEZ ate Coachella. They not only hyped everyone up, as they should, but also, their vocals were stable enough for people to hear, even with their intense choreo. You can come and say anything except for "lsfm's vocals aren't bad" because they actually are.

@DUNGSTA Ай бұрын

Who cares. They didn't do Feeling Like I Do

@janap.8455 Ай бұрын

I've also heard about Ateez that they are great live performers.

@inevitably_snow Ай бұрын

You cannot spell ATEEZ without ATE , can you?

@randomcomments2454 Ай бұрын

@@inevitably_snow Exactly.

@rkdo9554 Ай бұрын

ATEEZ performance was mid.

@judioindastudio9712 Ай бұрын

Atinys don't have to worry about this because ATEEZ showed they can sing and perform live at Coachella! Ready for this Friday!

@San_dup Ай бұрын

Ateez vocal is so good

@DUNGSTA Ай бұрын

Why won't they do Feeling Like I Do?

@fruitbasket444 Ай бұрын

Facts

@loonas.sapphics Ай бұрын

sm ent be worst but they have a the best & strongest vocal representation!

@fruityap77 Ай бұрын

you cant be an IDOL if you cant sing, please!

@VIKTORIA-vg7sx Ай бұрын

lauder

@i-am-rubi Ай бұрын

yeah you are a SINGER in the first place so how the f you can't sing

@ARP_1922 Ай бұрын

there are actually many idols who CAN'T sing properly because nowadays image and visuals are more important. If you consider EVERY SINGLE idol can perfectly sing live, then you have really low standards. Also, keep in mind that many groups have positions, and not everyone fits the vocalist role. There are dancers, rappers, visuals, FOTGs... who don't necessarily need to be great vocalists.

@criatanra Ай бұрын

Bts will have to disband then

@BeMyArt Ай бұрын

@@criatanraoh really? If you don't know even BTS's rappers can sing. They trained and talked about it before. That mentioned even in this video that in groups of previous generations all members had singing skills. BTS wasn't different. Of course not EXO level, but who had EXO level 🤷‍♀️

@roongrunchaichongolnee7484 Ай бұрын

BabyMonster have real vocalist waiting to clean up HYBE embarrassing mess

@Hahahaha10188 Ай бұрын

Waiting for SM to debut to clean up everyone mess 🤣

@hbrant Ай бұрын

Keep dreaming, SM has both the songs and the talent 😂

@crazylittlebigthings Ай бұрын

Hybe ruined kpop.😅

@loonas.sapphics Ай бұрын

shinee jonghyun was even involved teaching his members his strong vocal techniques & even early exo baekhyun, d.o, chen & suho exo had a major learning experience with shinee as backup dancers & in vocal lessons!

@rkdo9554 Ай бұрын

with all due respect to Jonghyun, he was really a great singer, BUT EXO MAIN VOCALISTS were already GOOD SINGERS before debut. and were honed by legit vocal coaches.

@jwk9139 Ай бұрын

Calling Sakura tone-deaf isn’t an accusation - it’s a truth. She’s a non-singer idol made to sing 🥲

@kanghaerinahhhhh Ай бұрын

I still don't understand how Sakura made it to the music industry.... Like--- how?

@hawrahlol Ай бұрын

@@kanghaerinahhhhh at first she was in a jpop group and jpop groups are more on entertainment then singing then ig that helped her get into iz*one and so forth

@rubiirae Ай бұрын

@@kanghaerinahhhhh maybe she got some hidden talents that involve her mouth but isn't singing.

@mehedihasane Ай бұрын

Hybe destroying k-pop since 2021.

@celuper Ай бұрын

DJ destroy your movie dude.....talk to your bollywood industry ...music on Hindi film today suck😂😂

@celuper Ай бұрын

Your music on film today is mess😂😂

@watashi5700 Ай бұрын

They aren't destroying anything. They're making money. Get on their level

@slightlybrunt Ай бұрын

hybe set the standard so low

@marksmith8210 Ай бұрын

Since way before then...

@Westbrook__ Ай бұрын

If you guys want vocals. Stan SM groups. From Shinee, to exo, to nct, to aespa, to riize. They all have vocals, and pretty much all the rappers can sing too lmfao. (also including riize in that little brand ambassador bit is crazy. they can sing)

@taemmate Ай бұрын

they can sing but sm only pushes sohee qnd wonbin for some reason.. we get it he is the best vocalist in the group but show us other boys vocal talent too

@Westbrook__ Ай бұрын

@@taemmate we got a good bit in their new song. the whole song is only singing, with zero rap.

@anmkcenzie Ай бұрын

Feels like le sserafim is a group of TikTok influencers who suddenly got together and started singing (badly) under hybe. Hybe's foundation is bts who also lack in vocals so that is their blue print for all their groups now.

@sensoine Ай бұрын

They even act more like influencers than idols

@BELIEVER78989 Ай бұрын

Nah BTS actually can sing live and are stable while doing back breaking choreos for 10 years now, don't compare them with these newbies💀

@6haerinn Ай бұрын

girl tf BTS can sing live. They've been idols for years. Especially Jungkook, he can sing live like it's a cakewalk. Also Le sserafim worked hard for their debut. please think twice b4 you say anything.

@anmkcenzie Ай бұрын

@@6haerinn C'mon now, bts auto tune & mumble sing their way through lyrics like there is no tomorrow. Couldn't carry a tune for their live performances. Jungkook is ok but he isn't that great either. Also, if that is the best Le sserafim can do then that is just sad. I said what I said ( & yes I thought twice), what are you going to do about it and who is going to care?.

@FGest.07 Ай бұрын

@@6haerinn actually singing well & singing well with autotune are two very different things. Bts is the latter. Jungkook is their best vocalist but even he has average vocal support

@pessoinhacansada6900 Ай бұрын

Well, if the public didn't get so in love with pretty people and make them so popular, the companys wouldn't promote visuals above everything else soo much. Beauty sells, after all.

@universe986 Ай бұрын

+++

@liviaoliveira81104 Ай бұрын

!!!

@felixislookingforhisbrowni7304 Ай бұрын

Nah all groups are from hybe...they really need to choose talent over visuals

@racheljin5320 Ай бұрын

YG did let the BABYMONSTER show off their singing skills though? Dream and Stuck In the Middle were extremely vocally based and you can't really blame the company for how well they did. In my opinion they were still hit successes. Also even in Sheesh, Ahyeon had that high note.

@vedantkakade7358 Ай бұрын

I hope Coachella will bring talanted groups like Gidle ,Everglow, Itzy, Mamamoo, XG , Nmixx, Twice, Red velvet and Babymonster (in future after 3-4 years).

@lostsoultof Ай бұрын

For real! Some of these groups you mentioned are underrated but they ate vocals. I swear the music industry nowadays is not as good as before 😢 all because ✨Tiktok✨

@watashi5700 Ай бұрын

@lostsoultof how are you gonna blame tiktok and not the people who make the bad music famous? Tiktok is just a website, not much different from KZfaq.

@jenjoestar. Ай бұрын

Or even soloist

@Faithoverfear413 Ай бұрын

XG would have killed it!!!

@krishnagarg7429 Ай бұрын

I feel like Coachcella only invite those who have a connection or fund them so we can't expect them to call artists who can actually perform live

@tsss Ай бұрын

Hype embarrassed Kpop for sure.

@d173adpool Ай бұрын

Second Gens are laughing lol

@jenjoestar. Ай бұрын

🤣

@minahsunlike5051 Ай бұрын

I'm glad i have memories of the times when we had Jonghyun, Changmin, Taeyeon, Chen, Baekhyun, D.O, Eunji, Taemin, Onew...

@universe986 Ай бұрын

Taeyeon, EXO, SHINee and TVXQ are still active tho

@minahsunlike5051 Ай бұрын

@@universe986 thank God!

@vixxexo6855 Ай бұрын

We have Ningning, Haewon, Jongho, Tarae, Lily, Winter and Heeseung now.

@Hellokitty_391 Ай бұрын

@@vixxexo6855don't set heeseung up like that

@yasminchan7425 Ай бұрын

@@vixxexo6855 Oneus Seoho and Keonhee I'd like to add those two

@mastaches Ай бұрын

Chung Ha is better than the entire girl group of Hybe Labels.

@PinkMarshmallows Ай бұрын

I listened to one of Le Sserafim's songs yesterday, and there was A LOT of autotune. The song was called Smart.

@yasminchan7425 Ай бұрын

Auto tune can be used in an artistic way but when you use it constantly, like Source does with Le sserafim and Bighit with TxT, to me at least, it felt like they just did it bc they can't actually sing well so they HAVE TO use auto tune, Bighit convinced me TxT couldn't sing bc they, in my opinion at least, over use auto tune especially on Beomgyu's voice, but they're very good

@jenjoestar. Ай бұрын

Auto tune like that is very heard in Afro beat songs like “smart”. But they added way to much ngl

@mookmeek Ай бұрын

@@jenjoestar.No its not lol. Saying this as an african. A lot of times there isn't a need for autotune because they're just talking. But, there is a rising trend of using autotune so ofc its more popular to use it these days.

@mookmeek Ай бұрын

@@yasminchan7425 I thought TXT could sing well live?

@yasminchan7425 Ай бұрын

@mookmeek oh yeah they can that's why I said but they're very good

@xxianmoon Ай бұрын

I'm not a hater but I'm gonna say it, HYBE mainly focuses of Dance and looks nothing more. I hate SM like to the highest level but i seriously can't deny that their idol groups have Vocalist and Sub-vocalist, not singers or someone can sing a tune or two but VOCALIST & Sub-Vocalist. YG did well with treasure but in terms of dancing, only above average not bad but better, JYP, they do be having it but they get restrained by you know whos singing style 😂😂😂

@kaizokuoluffy6557 Ай бұрын

50% air 50% voice is the most cringey technique in the music industry 😂

@xxianmoon Ай бұрын

@@kaizokuoluffy6557 🤣🤣🤣 but to him it's like 50% air, 20% voice & 30% Other worldly dance 🕺🏻

@Bella99-gm2iu Ай бұрын

@@kaizokuoluffy6557 it helps with breath control while dancing so that their idols don't sound like hybe groups

@Pop_lover_143 Ай бұрын

Bro this don't apply for YG artists and Skz,Svt,Ateez,et... YG artists are God of giving Stage performances and live vocals and Raps too !! Fans never complained about live performances to YG !!

@Bella99-gm2iu Ай бұрын

More like, this does not apply to the big3 groups. Jyp, sm and yg knows how to find talent and make their group stay in the industry. They don't follow trends.

@marksmith8210 Ай бұрын

You must not have watched Aespa...lol@@Bella99-gm2iu

@HongHiepNguyen-dw1dy Ай бұрын

it took YG about 7 years to debut new group for a reason

@Bella99-gm2iu Ай бұрын

@@HongHiepNguyen-dw1dy let's all act like treasure doesn't exist

@HongHiepNguyen-dw1dy Ай бұрын

@@Bella99-gm2iu treasure is boy group, babymonster is girl group. what I said was for same gender tho. there's also bigbang debut 2006, 2ne1 debut 2009.

@loonas.sapphics Ай бұрын

sec gen like shinee, exo & the loona girls (4th gen) are the realest vocalists seriously plus choreo and especially early 12 members exo & 12 members loona that’s a impressive impact 🗣️🗣️

@jenjoestar. Ай бұрын

Exactly! Literally no one has brought up Loona being extraordinary in vocals. Both groups being able to have so many members, while being able to stand out vocally is impressive

@taemmate Ай бұрын

exo 3rd gen...

@jessi5288 Ай бұрын

Okay, so criticizing a group/company over this isn’t a bad thing. If you don’t speak out nothing will ever change. But don’t let criticism cross over into bullying. But idols should be able to carry a tune easily. And if labels wanna debut groups who can’t sing, they shouldn’t send them to these big western festivals that stream the stages live.

@nugudave Ай бұрын

which part is the bullying?

@yeongyu22 Ай бұрын

This much criticism turns into bullying as people not only give constructive criticism but hate on them and makes fun of their singing skills did you forget what happened with ive

@Bella99-gm2iu Ай бұрын

@yeongyu22 At least Ive improved lol, whereas lsf can't seem to improve..

@HongHiepNguyen-dw1dy Ай бұрын

@@yeongyu22 hey, IVE improved, LSF doesn't. and instead of take notes, say sorry for bad performances, say will try to improve in the future, Sakura and Chaewon just ignore what people say. they still think they're doing good. that's an issue

@yeongyu22 Ай бұрын

@@HongHiepNguyen-dw1dy yeah I know Ive didn't needed the hate train that's why they are in my stan list and why are le sserafim acting like this Idk there downfall will go down in history like at their debut they felt so confident and fun , they were Fearless now they are ignorant

@drpri1836 Ай бұрын

I know I'll face hate from fearnots, but honestly Le Serrafim bit more than they can chew by performing at Coachella. They should have been more prepared for vocals before performing there. Gidle, Nmixx, Twice, Red velvet should have performed at Coachella instead.

@yanzkie2781 Ай бұрын

It's the company fault honestly cuz the CEO is so obsessed of taking down BP and doing more than BP for example BP for what I know they are invited before 2019 in chaochella but YG didn't accept it. But hybe want to do it early so they have something to talk about that le sserafim early in there correct already in chaochella. It's all for money fame ets. For the company and the idol taking all the pouches.😅

@jenjoestar. Ай бұрын

@@yanzkie2781definitely the companies fault. Lesserafim didn’t book their own venue lol🤣

@DUNGSTA Ай бұрын

Nah they should have booked newjeans

@thecoolintroverttv8381 Ай бұрын

Ateez was enough, Coachella shouldn't hv booked more than 1 group

@jojofilosopo8625 Ай бұрын

Le Serrafim had ruined the vocal reputation of their generation and the next. There are still a lot of talented vocalists from other GGs. Like you said, Gidle, Nmixx, Baby Mon. I feel bad that they will get generalized with this group 😅

@therealgrimreaper68 Ай бұрын

Le sserafim's skills are so bad that their stans can't even defend them and resort to saying that they don't have to be skilled or talented to be an idol. Hybe really threw away Gfriend for this group

@DUNGSTA Ай бұрын

Who cares. They are still the best dancing gg

@therealgrimreaper68 Ай бұрын

@@DUNGSTA Itzy is the best at dancing

@yanzkie2781 Ай бұрын

Welp that's the new Kpop. I miss the days that you can hear idols sing with there hearts.

@luciole7452 Ай бұрын

Even Ryeowook learns new things from musical actors and still takes care of his vocal cords after more than 18 years in the industry.

@Blackmonster_ygfan Ай бұрын

Honestly it's only hybe not the Big3.

@IamjanhviIamokk Ай бұрын

You can't say all its just hybe gg because now in 5 ( look babymonster and kiss of life) generation many talented idols are present even in hybe bg are really talented

@Glowxdebby Ай бұрын

And young posse too

@lostsoultof Ай бұрын

UNIS too. They're underrated but can really sing live. Babymonster and UNIS are the only idols that made me come back to kpop music after EXO and SNSD. I occasionally listen to (G)-Idle's songs coz of K/DA and Aespa's.

@jenjoestar. Ай бұрын

True ! Kiss of life is currently having a thriving comeback

@fyeelessarndra3392 Ай бұрын

"Idols nowadays can't sing live to save their lives.." Mamamoo: we suck at lip-syncing...

@omeshrathi1396 Ай бұрын

mamamoo could be the biggest show at coachella , rbw needs to send them next year

@fyeelessarndra3392 Ай бұрын

@@omeshrathi1396 IKR? Mamamoo's talents and stage presence is absolutely perfect for music festival stages! I mean, just looking at snippets of their concerts and you'll immediately see why...

@omeshrathi1396 Ай бұрын

@@fyeelessarndra3392 I've been a fan of them since 2020 they should perform next year no matter what RBW should stop making excuses and get to work

@AS-ec9ll Ай бұрын

Yall have ATEEZ infront of ur eyes, pure talent, literally. But yall are sticking to yalls low standards

@DUNGSTA Ай бұрын

Why didn't they perform Feeling Like I Do?

@JoshBirk Ай бұрын

remember back then when 2nd gen idols live performance vocals WHILE dancing are as good as their mvs and audio recordings? yeah me too

@dsibrbidll7752 Ай бұрын

Hybe's new groups are just money makers that will disband after their contracts end and new will come. By that time some of them will go on hiatus before the disbandment and this is how it works. The same untalented idols will be millionaires because their music is trending in TikTok and the cycle will repeat. In 4th and 5th gen I find myself stanning groups with good vocals or raps or both - Aespa, Baemon, Ateez, Stray Kids. I believe that everything depends on person's preferences and if we don't like untalented groups like Hybe's ggs, then we should not listen to their trash and everyone is happy😅

@celuper Ай бұрын

First paragraph of your story...is about blackpink?

@dsibrbidll7752 Ай бұрын

@@celuper I am a blink in first place. My girls can sing and I enjoy their songs as much as I had an amazing time being to their concert in France. If you are of those haters who just follow the trend to hate on the group because they are popular, then I am ok with it as I don't care, but don't disrespect the facts I have written above

@DUNGSTA Ай бұрын

Bruh you're sleeping on newjeans

@celuper Ай бұрын

@@dsibrbidll7752 but you realize right that your first paragraph above is just 100% story of blackpink

@dsibrbidll7752 Ай бұрын

@@DUNGSTA They are the same story, they can kinda sing but their voices are not mesmerising. They can definitely improve but if they continue with the same concept it won't happen

@nneichan9353 Ай бұрын

there are gifted vocalists. but the focus on looks really cuts the importance of vocals, which is sad.

@jenjoestar. Ай бұрын

Exactly

@Theinfamouskiki411 Ай бұрын

Yup

@SprucedandGussied Ай бұрын

I’m a fan of Le SSERAFIM and have always known they weren’t great vocalists. I’m not a garam Stan, but when she was kicked out, they lost their best vocalists. I honestly can’t make any excuses for them, I watched the livestream of Coachella and i literally thought I was being punked.thats how mediocre they sounded. What a disappointment.

@DUNGSTA Ай бұрын

Who cares. Their songs are bops ❤

@K-popIshome Ай бұрын

Me too! I followed them since day 1 , but ngl garam was the best vocalist there , and the performance at Coachella disappointed me a lot. Hybe , give them vocal training , cause it’s really getting worse. Plus the fact that sakura said that it was their best performance made me laugh ngl

@SprucedandGussied Ай бұрын

@@DUNGSTA are you for real? They’re musicians. They should have a basic ability to be able to sing live. Otherwise they should’ve become actors or models or backup dancers. They also have no like almost zero percent input in the music they create so I can’t even give them credit for those bops.

@SH-bm8yp Ай бұрын

@SprucedandGussied didn't Yunjin produce Eve Psyche & Bluebeards wife? I could be wrong though.

@inevitably_snow Ай бұрын

SKZ, Kiss of Life, X: IN, BTS, SVT, TWS, BAEMON, ATEEZ, XIKERS, and New Jeans sing live. Once you focus on the ones who don't, you will think that that is all there is to KPOP. '5th Gen is so boring, 4th Gen is boring', if you don't focus on groups from larger labels more, then yeah, you're going to say that. more recs for good vocals are A.C.E, JUSTB, TEMPEST, ONEPACT, etc.

@marcelisfriendly6941 Ай бұрын

Ain't no way you skipped NMIXX

@tessie4698 Ай бұрын

idk why ppl always forget stayc but those girls can sing

@swatiarmy2677 Ай бұрын

You forgot blackpink, nmixx , stayc, and formis_9 I guess

@odiissoobin Ай бұрын

TXT sing live too.

@yeol174 Ай бұрын

ONF also have good vocal skills!! But I’d argue that both A.C.E and ONF are 3rd gen idols. Yes they debuted in 2017, that’s why they’re late 3rd gen, but they just fit more in that category in sound, concept and overall vibe. Both of these groups also debuted before The Boyz (who debuted in December 2017) who could be considered one of the latest 3rd gen groups (or in fact the last 3rd gen group), as 4th gen generally started in 2018 (so group like Stray Kids is already 4th gen, this also shows in the type of music those groups make, I guess).

@amytrezy2307 Ай бұрын

Hybe is cringe af

@umiprea Ай бұрын

I get that the girls may think its unfair to get these bad criticisms but instead of improving or expressing their desire to grow they give a finger and pretend its their best stage yet. Sad.

@sreyahazel Ай бұрын

Full of arrogance cause they come from a big company..

@dianaosazenaye1313 Ай бұрын

It not the way it use to be

@stayandstar87 Ай бұрын

i am a multistan but as a 3 y/o stay i am proud of skz and there is no one telling me that they can not sing dance or rap🤧☺

@TheMultiStanKpopFan Ай бұрын

I saw SKZ live in Fort Worth Texas. It was night 2 that I attended. I thought the vocals were rough and I no longer follow the group. I will say that Changbin and Han were incredible though. They were brilliant. Felix and Hyunjin were fun to watch from a choreo perspective and the vocals they had were ok. good energy. Bangchan was ok. I felt like he kind of pulled back to let others shine. The other 3 members though…it felt like a rough night. For what I paid for those tickets, I can have an opinion on what I paid for and I won’t be disrespectful toward anyone in the group, but I would never buy another product with their name on it again.

@olivesareoliver Ай бұрын

@@TheMultiStanKpopFan and that is okay, we're all entitled to our own options. As a stay, I'm just a little surprised that the main vocalist did the worst though lol

@missmochiicecream Ай бұрын

@@TheMultiStanKpopFan you do you but I'll be honest, you do not sound like a fun person if you stop supporting a group just because their live vocals weren't great one time

@leefelix8461 Ай бұрын

The industry really has changed a lot since back then but there still are groups who are talented at vocals its just that people choose to focus on the groups who are lacking and ignore the talented ones , but i do agree hybe really needs to focus on vocal training

@kittenpunch Ай бұрын

i mean, what's the point of being trained if you still can't sing well while dancing while that's literally your job to do :/

@watashi5700 Ай бұрын

Lsfm probably didn't train much on vocals, mainly for dance. Iirc Eunchae was added a few weeks before they debuted and Kazuha only trained for a few months.

@DUNGSTA Ай бұрын

Bruh they're literally the best gg at dancing?

@kittenpunch Ай бұрын

@@DUNGSTA agreed, they dance really well indeed. but what i said was to SING WELL while dancing, they're singers after all, not dancers.

@DUNGSTA Ай бұрын

@@kittenpunch you want them to be the best singers and dancers too?!

@kittenpunch Ай бұрын

@@DUNGSTA you keep on missing out my point duh🙄 i didn't ask them to be the best singers and dancers. idols basically are singers, of course they have to sing well cuz that's their main job to do. and you know what? lsrfm's fans or people like you who keep on making excuses and denying facts are the ones who make lsrfm getting even more and more hate.

@cjcancan6094 Ай бұрын

HYBE LITERALLY DESTROYED KPOP FOR CONTINUE DEBUTING THIS UNTALENTED IDOLS.THAT IS WHY THERE IS ONLY BIG 3 ENTERTAINMENT IN KPOP

@DUNGSTA Ай бұрын

Best dancers but OK

@nikki.exosnoona Ай бұрын

idols these days are more influencers/models than singer/performers. being viral is more important than singing. the older generation of idols tries so hard to change the public's opinion of being an idol. the new gen is making it worse. i think us the consumers are also to blame. we have tolerated this & accepted that this is the new norm.

@Jess-fb1su Ай бұрын

LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!! it's been so hard for me to get into the vast majority of the 4th gen groups and even a lot of the 3rd gen groups because of this. the whole point is they are MUSICIAL ARTISTS, not a PERFORMANCE GROUP, not an ACTING/MODDELING/INFLUENCER GROUP, a music group! the whole point is baseline everyone has to be able to sing in some way, shape, or form. if I can sing better than some of the members, than that's an issue. the acting, modeling, influencer, etc. stuff is all supposed to be the stuff they do on the SIDE. I know it helps bring in money, sponsorships, and recognition, but if that is ALL that members bring to the table and they can't sing well? then they're not meant to be an idol. that's an actor/influencer. dancing & rapping is important too, but ALL of the members have to have a good singing base, otherwise it doesn't make any sense. not to mention how short/tiktok focused songs are these days, we can barely get decent bridges & choreos that aren't challenge based.

@RedFro95 Ай бұрын

Seriously! What was the training even for if they can't sing? They like to mention in the documentaries about all the hard work that was put into the group and the debut. But then it's time to actually turn the mic on and sing, it's like amateur night. Where'd all that hard work go?

@TaylorLeeKnow Ай бұрын

Good visuals are important especially in the Kpop industry as fans are pulled more towards the handsome beautiful members first then they come to know and discover about the Kpop Idol’s groups, there’s no denying. But singing should be number one on the list. Then comes the dancing and visual category. God knows how many trainees are there who didn’t get to debut just because they are not that good looking or don’t have connections and money.

@taemmate Ай бұрын

thats why sm always adds 1 dozen who is a great visual in their boygroups to balance ugly vocal kings😂 lucas winwin sehun anton etc

@meimimiyasaki Ай бұрын

By now, people still denying that HYBE is buying ILLIT and Le Sserafim's wins is a complete joke.

@Supernovaex Ай бұрын

Only hybe stans deny, the rest know

@Blink_k.k143 Ай бұрын

Babymonster really proved themselves about how stable and good they’re vocals and voices are even when performing on stage and dancing hard choreographies

@freeyaw29 Ай бұрын

yes. just ditch those horrible yg songs 😂

@Blink_k.k143 Ай бұрын

@PurpleKiss-je5hw actually they did do it on a live stage at ingikayo

@FGest.07 Ай бұрын

@@Blink_k.k143indoor live stage is VERY different with outdoor live stage. You have more outside elements to consider

@Manchis123 Ай бұрын

@@Blink_k.k143 no all those performance were pre recorded

@selenophile-vj6nh Ай бұрын

@@Manchis123 then watch them in M countdown, SBS Radio and other Radio stations that they perform live, you have to research about them

@SadiaIslamShouki Ай бұрын

Even our baby Lead rapper of EXO, Sehun attend vocal lesson regularly. Listen, Le serafim girls aren’t lazy, their work out, dancing shows they work hard, it’s just they don’t have enough interest in their job( same thing I see for BP girls, but because they are hardly doing idol job anyway) so yeah, Le serafim girls don’t have any interest of improving their vocal because clearly the company and the fans encourage them.

@rkdo9554 Ай бұрын

SEHUN has beautiful vocals esp when he's paired with another member to harmonize. it's just a bummer that his hyungs are vocal monsters.

@triatendo9387 Ай бұрын

They're not models folks, they're singers🤦‍♀

@taylorc5899 Ай бұрын

But aren't these companies just focusing on what k-netz wants? I mean, hasn't there been many examples of k-netz voting for someone whose pretty but their vocals are horrible on music survival shows. They always prefer beauty over talent

@Theinfamouskiki411 Ай бұрын

Thank you! My point

@Choiyujincoversxx Ай бұрын

4th gen - 5th gen kpop groups' debuts/comebacks were really fresh and catchy to listen, But i seriously just miss the time when kpop was full with live vocal and visuals.

@asssj6 Ай бұрын

Ohhh, you spilled a lot. As someone who grew up with K-pop, I've known idols from 2nd and 3rd through their variety shows that showcase their vocals, iconic immortal songs, fantastic duo, live radio visits, etc. The 2nd and 3rd really did a great job of popularizing K-pop trends and even gained their recognition as singers because there is some perception in Korea where actors and real singers often gain more respect than idols. And seeing the current trend, it is kind of sad to see the bad perception about idols is back again because the quality somehow decreases a lot.

@Honyxx_ Ай бұрын

Personally I think loyal fans is the problem. Fans lowers standards, company’s take advantage and debut not fully developed idols, netizens criticise, fans hit them with a “They were nervous” or “they are new to the stage”. It’s ok to give criticism to ur fave, it’s actually good since it guides them to know what to practice more on. If not they’re blind

@exxasoy Ай бұрын

talent is there. it's the lack of dedication to improve and showcase any progress anytime you perform - me thinks

@aesserafim585 Ай бұрын

this! if they get good stable vocals they will be a great group

@gorillaofjohn15 Ай бұрын

go through proper and intense training process. go through elimination. and only those who can meet a high standard can debut. Instead of "oh they just debuted give them time to improve". This is absolute bullshit. nd fans, many of them using their parents money to support them just because they are trending, and at the same time a slap in the face of those who truly have talent , on top of insane hard work. to even have the cheek to call themselves "IDOL" in the first place.

@mookmeek Ай бұрын

@@gorillaofjohn15 illit did that and they're still subpar, currently

@DUNGSTA Ай бұрын

@@aesserafim585why care about vocals now when they're already super popular and are the talk of the town?

@DP-co6qx Ай бұрын

I agree now a days it’s all about showbiz and not developing challenging singing talent. Industry just want easy money with pretty faces

@aplaraujo250 Ай бұрын

People need to: - Stop gaslighting themselves - Stop coddling their favorites no matter what (I don’t agree with the hate, but some amount of criticism is necessary) - And the most important: stop glorifying mediocrity.

@anetamenclova7391 Ай бұрын

I'm so glad NMIXX is here. One of the few "new" groups that has great vocals from all members.

@JSN_1997 Ай бұрын

Also kiss of life

@user-yw5wl3yf9u Ай бұрын

Facts. Nmixx are the queens 👑👑👑

@toinkstv4376 Ай бұрын

What No More?🤔 Meanwhile... Fromis9,Mamamoo,Nmixx,Unis,Lapillus,Baemon be like: Excuse us we are just Passing💅

@Hellokitty_391 Ай бұрын

Yoseob from B2ST/HIGHLIGHT still taking a vocal classes eventhough he's been an idol since 2009

@VIKTORIA-vg7sx Ай бұрын

most of the 2nd and 3rd gen are still learning taking classes thats why i also prefer them more at least they work hard even haveing a secsessful charier for year. Yeseob even dont need lessons anymore but still having them its somthing that evry idol should folow.

@Hellokitty_391 Ай бұрын

@@VIKTORIA-vg7sx fr, newer idols should follow them 😌

@kpopdanceemirror Ай бұрын

For me the problem with this mess (of Lesserafim) is, that I know that for example Chaewon and Yunjin can sing but somehow since they are in hybe their vocals weren’t as good as they were. Also for Sakura,Kazuha and somehow Eunchae I think that the songs in Lesserafim are too high pitched

@salembejaoui1880 Ай бұрын

LSFM songs aren't high pitched at all and when there are parts that are they are given to Yunjin and Chaewon. They just can't sing. Sakura just never cared to improve, Kazuha was a ballet dancer that had no experience in singing or rapping but somehow was still added to the group and Eunchae idk what else she did other than practice dancing cause she always sound flat

@kpopdanceemirror Ай бұрын

@@salembejaoui1880 Yes,I‘m fully with you and I didn’t really meant high pitched, but what I meant was that when you watch their Coachella performance Sakura (for example) is relatively stable because she wasn’t singing that high. You can especially hear that in Antifragile. But yes they were trained for that and this is their job and u can rank them very low in vocals

@BeMyArt Ай бұрын

I just want to see Mamamoo on Coachella 😂

@monsterhuntergo Ай бұрын

The worst part is lipsyncing is being normalised. Vocals are auto-tuned recorded.

@bullbae02 Ай бұрын

you know its bad when the 2nd gen idol example includes sandara AND you still agree they were better then....

@silververnallbells191 Ай бұрын

Dara can sing. She's not flat or sharp. She just has a limited range.

@nooshpresents Ай бұрын

back when live performances all sounded like "Love in the ice" by DBSK...damn...I miss talent

@maaduufan5140 Ай бұрын

I accidentally Atarashi Gakko's coachella performance when i was searching for lesserafim ones. omg, this group blew my mind. Vocal, personality and fun stage. their dance is silly but it was so enjoyable. maybe kpop can learn a thing or 2 from this group.

@todayiglowup4286 Ай бұрын

tbh this seems like a hybe problem, because i dont see people criticizing the vocals of sm jyp and yg idols

@lunamiumiu Ай бұрын

The commentary on aespa is so funny and bias … I went to see aespa live and they were singing live 70-80% of the entire concert and I had seat close to the stage. I’m sorry but there is just no excuse of being a bad singer at an encore stage where you are not dancing and have to sing. I have YET to see a bad aespa encore stage 🤷🏽‍♀️

@RedFro95 Ай бұрын

What is the point of the several years of training some of these idols go through if they're not being trained on how to hold a tune while executing choreo?

@Theinfamouskiki411 Ай бұрын

Marketing and dancing and not all idols have been trainees. Some were recruited into their groups

@RedFro95 Ай бұрын

@Theinfamouskiki411 Is that a good excuse to not being able to sing and dance at the same time when it's time to do so?

@JungDangPHNoona Ай бұрын

1st 2nd and 3rd gen idols have great vocals especially idols from a medium size company and SM Entertainment... Hybe should not focus only on being a money hungry but should focus on idols singing abilities as their idols are nothing compare to medium size companies idols which can sing live well and dance well to like Golden Child SF9 Pentagon OMEGA X and many more... If Hybe idols continue to do like this better disband... SEVENTEEN was just the idol group from this company (as Pledis is acquired by Hybe) who can sing live well

@bei9869 Ай бұрын

Boynextdoor also (from KOZ -ZICO's company),although they are 5th gen but still they are quite good

@VIKTORIA-vg7sx Ай бұрын

yes svt is the only group who can sing and they live vocals are good and i am not even a fan of them. 1,2,3 gen are the best they steel learning takeing classes, like exo, btob, monstax, sf9, vxx, infinite, beast, suju, shinee, tvxq, 2am, 2pm, got7, ikon, winner, nct, akmu, omegax, anf some of the 4th gen to like kingdom, skz, treasure, abi6x,up10tion, ateez, astro..., . i completly agree with you.