No Pretreat Box w/ Epson F2100 & Sure Color Pretreament Process

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4 жыл бұрын

In depth... How to pretreat a DTG shirt with Epson Sure Color Pretreament without leaving behind the dark, sticky box that never washes out. The exact steps are below that I use in this video.

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@clixstormdiy4352 4 жыл бұрын

Teflon sheets: SS SHOVAN PTFE Teflon Sheet for... www.amazon.com/dp/B073PWHH43?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

@quadog9019 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video. I'm using the Epson pretreat, and have been using 1:1 mix of Pretreat to Distilled Water. I noticed it does leave a slight box despite how light I spray. Using a 1:2 mix of 1 gal of Pretreat to 2 gal of distilled water, seems like a sweet spot.

@BillyRay724 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic Video. On of the best I have seen so far. Bravo.

@DrillersClub 3 жыл бұрын

Bro loved this video more than everyone I’ve seen. Good advice

@DrillersClub 4 жыл бұрын

Really liked your video, nice work.

@dobsob08 2 жыл бұрын

Great video.. I would love the write up. Thanks.

@elroycharlie Жыл бұрын

Master Class !!!

@thet-shirtdiaries9578 4 жыл бұрын

I watched every second of this video! I’ve only had my machine for about 3 months and there are so few detailed tutorials on how to get the best results. You took time out of what I’m sure was a busy day to do this for other people. So I had to say thank you and you rock! Question: Do you have much experience with jean jackets or printing over stitching? I’ve heard slipping neoprene underneath to level with stitching, but I’m open to ALL expert feedback! Thanks!

@clixstormdiy4352 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, you can get blank mousepads and use them to level off. That's exactly what to do how you explained it. Pretreatment of anything you do will yield the best color and durability. Try to master your pretreat process before diving into denim so you don't lose $ on a jacket gone wrong. I go down to walmart or Joanne's and buy the fabric I am going to try next and learn that way.

@andrewes7516 4 жыл бұрын

I use the same process as you, including the paintbrush. What you should consider purchasing is the California compressor, it is ultra-quiet. I have 8 of them for my businesses.

@clixstormdiy4352 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I was going to look into it or build a sound box. The neighbors complain if its outside. #firstworldproblems :)

@phototec 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely one of the best videos I have seen regarding pretreating, I do a have a few questions. Maybe I missed it, but are you using the same pretreat solution mix for both dark and light shirts?

@clixstormdiy4352 4 жыл бұрын

You can yes. My biggest advice is to change entirely to the Firebird FBX which you can apply these same settings and print both colors and never have an issue again. The Firenird FBX creates flawless image, no box AND lasts a forever on the garment. Using the same mixture ratio.

@glitzandglammanhattan267 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Question for ya on the pretreat? Have you used the Epson Poly Pretreat yet? If so just curious to see what you think compared to the Sure Color?

@natalielongson5397 2 жыл бұрын

I am new to t-shirts and DTG printing. Thanks for the detailed video! I would like to know what your formula is using Sure Color. Thanks!!

@clixstormdiy4352 4 жыл бұрын

Sorry for the length but the quality is in the details.

@gregorymarrufo6912 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Can you reach out to me at your convenience. I have multiple questions for your and would appreciate you mentoring me through this process.

@KeyPrintCo 4 жыл бұрын

Great video on the heat pressing process. Is there a place where you wrote down your process?

@Berkeley622 4 жыл бұрын

Great video!!

@kingdomcitizenship5613 3 жыл бұрын

@3:56 If those cornflakes taste funny you know you grabbed the wrong bottle

@Bluntedco. 4 жыл бұрын

i think you should not heat press before pre-treating ......just lint roll the shirt then pre treat and then cure with dull side parchment paper. i myself was heat pressing before adding the pre treat and it makes it too flat to where the preteat doesnt really hold into the fibers right if you do not heat press before pre treating then it helps absorb evenly onto the shirt without having to use the brush too. You should try it and compare both shirts. Also i noticed you use a spray gun on the sides it didnt full pre treat just unscrew the screws on each arm and slide them up and you can get a fuller coverage. use a leveler to make sure you level the arm that holds the nozzle.

@tshirtclout5188 4 жыл бұрын

how can i get a copy of your process to print for myself to use

@blonde-tees9131 3 жыл бұрын

I have a conveyor dryer do i still need to do the presses after pretreatment or can I avoid that?

@GabrielCastro_FL 4 жыл бұрын

Been fighting the box for a while!!! going to try your method first thing in the morning. Thanks for the great video. I will follow up. One questions, where can I get the teflon sheets you are using?

@clixstormdiy4352 4 жыл бұрын

If you really want to stop the box. Try FIREBIRD FBX 100. 1 TO 3 Ratio. Same press times and temps.

@clixstormdiy4352 4 жыл бұрын

Here is the sheets. The thin kind. SS SHOVAN PTFE Teflon Sheet for... www.amazon.com/dp/B073PWHH43?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

@GabrielCastro_FL 4 жыл бұрын

@@clixstormdiy4352 THANKS!!!! Got rid of the box on my shirts. Trying Firebird Next. I have a gallon but they say that its ready how it is. I mostly do 100% cotton. Also, one last question. What is your procedure for Curing your ink? Temp, Preasure and paper used? Im going to try to send you a DM. Thanks again.

@GabrielCastro_FL 4 жыл бұрын

@@clixstormdiy4352 Tried sending you an email but it bounced.

@clixstormdiy4352 4 жыл бұрын

That's odd. If u have FB? Jessergonzales at FB and hotmail and gmail. LoL.

@lisayurchak3666 Жыл бұрын

I see you are using the Epson sure color pretreat. What is your ratio you use? Also when curing the ink after printed, Do you use Kraft paper or this teflon sheet? Thanks

@incrediblemrlew836 4 жыл бұрын

Rad! This is by far the most helpful video on the DTG pretreatment process that I've come across. What pretreat ratio would you recommend for a (50Poly, 25Cotton, 25Rayon) tri-blend?

@clixstormdiy4352 4 жыл бұрын

I use the same ratio for all blends 60/40. 60% distilled. If you experent mixture. Remember, the more vibrant the image the more pretreat ratio. I never use 100% pretreat.

@clixstormdiy4352 4 жыл бұрын

If you can swing it, get Firebird FBX and mix 50/50. Itll blow every other PT away and only requires one mixture across all blends.

@JohnScering 2 жыл бұрын

@@clixstormdiy4352 Firebird says no need to mix. Why do you mix? Is it to strong?

@dwightgolden6329 2 жыл бұрын

Where do you order your Teflon from

@michaelc6553 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. Is it suppose to feel hard after pressing?

@clixstormdiy4352 3 жыл бұрын

Yes! The smoother and paper like surface it is. The better the print.

@daveandcarriegreen 2 жыл бұрын

Hi! Just found you. 😃 Do you use the same pretreat solution for lights and darks? It didn’t look like you changed the solution between the two colors.

@clixstormdiy4352 2 жыл бұрын

I use the same no matter what. I just increase the saturation on darks by about 15%

@bridgetteneilan8308 Жыл бұрын

Can I get that info please?

@lucas4prez 4 жыл бұрын

1:1 dilute for Epson? How's washability for the light garments with no white ink? I know Epson recommends a 9:1 dilute for lights.

@clixstormdiy4352 4 жыл бұрын

Yessir. Atleast. I lean more to 60/40 distilled/epson. Most of my customers are regulars and have zero complaints. I should add that my process is a combination of cost effective ink spend and pretreatment. Pretreat is cheaper than ink and when done right it works like a charm. The more water the less chances of a box, but you'll be pressing longer to get the moisture out. I am in California in a dry climate.

@clixstormdiy4352 4 жыл бұрын

I have a 99.7 positive feedback rating on ebay with 3800 feedback and 5 stars on Amazon. Customers so far are good to go. Even those who wait months to leave feedback. What I am trying to say here it not brag, just provide data to back up what I am claiming is working good. The customers I have so far seek to think so and I have yet to have someone return a shirt. So I am thinking positive and will try to make clearer videos coming up. Like you, I have learned and lost a lot in the pursuit of perfection. Let me know about the 9 to 1. Which way? Water over PT?

@raytaz50 4 жыл бұрын

What pretreater are you using?

@clixstormdiy4352 4 жыл бұрын

I believe it's called the "mongoose" . Someone in LV is selling a like new used one for $500. Inbox me.

@johnnyg2983 Жыл бұрын

amazing how you pay $5K for a pretreat machine but you still have to come behind it with a spray bottle ??? i have one just one of my gripes but i see you have to do the same thing