Btw, how can major tournaments allow the team to redraft twice??? The organisers are a mess.

Not only that, SRG can't even redraft. Only SYS can redraft, and they pick Edith to counter them. SHAME ON SYS. L TO THE PRODUCTION.

Cloud9 should try that against bren next game maybe they might last more than 9 minutes

as im aware , you can remake a draft if youre having a technical issue , but just right after the problem occured . not after you had technical issue and you takes time to see opponent 's pick afterward. tht is fking unfair

There is no such thing as “misclick” in pro scene. if you click that hero no what is the reason, that should be your problem. Shame Shame Shame for SYS.

I can't accept because if they want to change lapu2 to Edith then innocent last pick should be allowed to exchange.. but they are not allowed

Twice ReDraft is Not Fair.

SYS is so shameless. Not once but redraft TWICE due to human error and the organisers let it slide. Bruh SRG players already affected mentally with the disadvantage. EVERYONE was expecting SRG to clean sweep dark SYStem but ScamYouSoon had a redraft meta that caught them off guard. What is this unfair bs? #PenaliseSYS

Meanwhile In MPL PH When Irrad Misclick The Aldous And Karina

It is so unfair, 2 times redraft and pause just for handwarmer.. dirty play from sys.. They should be DQ fr.. even coach arcadia protest this, but still organizer dgaf at all

We don't even get redraft in rank wtf is this organization thinking? How is this fair!?

Misspick in big tournament, u can't be serious. Showed that SYS are just bunch of a very not professional people. Not once but twice. I don't know that SRG is so strong that it makes SYS tremble and somehow making wrong pick twice 😂😂😂

This was a human error not a game error or some bug so organizers should have not allowed a redraft. I'm not an ML player but as a fan of esports in general this is unacceptable. This kind of reasons are not allowed in Dota. In Dota misclick or not or got random pick because you got out of time is already final. Making a new lobby after the draft because there's a bug is okay but making a new lobby and change you're drafts is dumb and dirty. This one is on the organizers not the teams.

SYS is legit darksystem of the tournament. Hope they will get penalty. Clearly against the rule. Shame on the organizer also.

Redraft because negligence from the player/team is ridiculous you have like one minute to pick

They're really doing everything just to stop SRG. Redraft meta is real🤦

Need hand cam at draft pick after this

dang, cambodians with the dirty trick again...reminds me of the myanmar vs cambodia during sea games where they trolled the match just to make sure they didnt end up meeting with philippines in the semi finals 😂 😂😂

SYS skills1% Redraft 99%

Even in Ranked Games, no re-draft. Hello this is a major league lmao 😂

Redraft should never be n option they are both professional team if one team fk up there pick its should be there own problem why can’t they just Fkng focus on there own gameplay Fkng pissed me of spoiled my parlay 😂😂😂

Fair game, everyone got the exact time minute or second to think about your pick hero..if you miss click or late pick totally your fault not everyone else..what a stupid rule to remake game because its clearly your own fault not the organizer or moonton fault..

INDONESIA WAS THE FIRST USE THE REDRAFT META WHEN BTR FACING AGAINST BTK IN IESF. 😂😂

Sys can redraft but not srg? Stupid referee.

I've thinking about this and it finally happened 😆

Malaysia is never a strong country but Malaysia used to play with a draft without retri as our jungler accidentally picked flicker. And also minotaur with sprint. We sucked it up and still play. We accepted our own mistake like a man. Even if we lose. Asking for pause for many times is still fine. But this? Man up Cambodia.

If something dirty really happened here, it will be fine for SRG no matter what. Just consider it a free point given. Law of karma's gonna get SYS, watch them not make it to Playoffs😆

They timed out, that's SYS fault so why is SRG the one who should suffer?

Shame on SYS and The Organisers 👎🏿👎🏿

SYS Shame Yes, Shame! Isn't time management part of strategy of this game? They are given enough time to draft. How unfair for Red Giants and how shameful for SYS given the fact that each point matters, lol. 😆

Redraft twice for miss click?! thats crazy

what even funny is that they pause the game just to get a hand warmer

One redraft is enough, especially if there was an error/misclick.

Moonton should investigate this it isn't fair

everyone should do redraft let see how the organizer like it. They allowed 1 team, that means the rule applicable to ALL team.

this can't go on without punishment.

If it's technical errors it's valid but...miss clicks really?? Also what's with the paused just to ask for hand warmer???

If it's a technical error which is something that is out of anyone's control, a redraft is valid. But something like a misclick is not technical, it is a human error and therefore shouldn't even be allowed to redraft! and 2 times too? what is the organizer thinking??

That funny thing, sys pause game because not tecnical issue..😂😂😂😂

Clearly human error look at the timer. shame on the organizer.

so cambodog is real?

Just Redraft once but twice nah

Meta redraft 🔥 Meta Pause 🔥 the power of SYS

Here's my take on this. SYS "run out of time". The Yu Zhong pick was deliberate but not the LapuLapu... The Lapu² was randomly picked by the game itself simply because they don't have a time. With that, SYS demanded a redraft ONLY for the last pick. On SRG's side they have enough time and decided to pick Kagura.. Now the issue here, to me, are (1)whether or not SRG will agree to a redraft; (2) Should the organizer allow a redraft. It seems that there has no prior incident related to this that's why a redraft was concluded on the grounds of time insufficiency on hero selection. Though, i find the decision "on redraft" as fair BUT for SRG not allowed to change their last pick on Kagura is DISCRIMINATELY unfair.. the reason? Simple.. "Why do we have a draft in the first pick?" The answer is so we can make a gameplan and decide what strategy to take so and so.. The Kagura pick was decided simply because SRG had concluded that it was the best against SYS draft, particularly the YuZhong ang Lapu² pick.. Now, why is SYS allowed to change their last pick but not Kagura? If the conclusion was SRG cannot change their last pick, then SYS can strategize an optimal pick be it against Kagura alone OR, the entire SRG comp.. the org made an unfair decision.

mic check as a proof

Clownbodia not professional 🐶

its the fact that they took so long. the other stream's game was already finished while they still started.

At least they need to call both team Analyst to pick the last redraft hero that didn't give advantage to redraft team and not become a disadvantage to the team that didn't get the redraft to make it more FAIR 😢😢

KAYA PALA NA TALO ANG SRG!!DAHIL NAKAKA DISMAYA ANG NANGYARI🤣🤣🤣REDDRAFT!!!!BUTI NALANG NAKA RECOVER AGAD SA GAME2!!!

Its SYS mistake they must learn from it this tournament is not a joke they must respect the drafting phase they must be penalized to their action

I don't want to see them anymore

SRG should request a rematch for game 1. If not, every team should redraft in coming matches just to clown the organizer.

I hope all team in this group can redraft one time. So it’s fair for everyone

I don't know if it's just me and my team, but I had two matches this patch where I had a pre-selected hero during the picking stage, but when I locked it in it selected another hero. Not sure if it was a bug, but it also happened to my teammates too.

Considering thats MSC like any other tournaments organized by moonton follow somewhat of the same rules as MPL here are the rules that were broken in this game(According to MPL-PH latest rendition of their rules, and can be found in their website under "About > Rules") 1) "Selection Error." In the event of an erroneously-selected Hero pick or ban caused by personal reason, the erroneous selection shall be deemed IRREVOCABLE(So a remake should't of had happened in the first place since the draft was most likely caused by a player error and not a technical malfunction). If it is caused by a technical reason or malfunction of the Game, the Team in error must NOTIFY A REFEREE IMMEDIATELY , the referee and the MPL official will then communicate and confirm with one another before deciding whether or not the Player can reselect. In case the draft continues after a selection error was reported and ruled to be caused by a TECHNICAL REASON. The draft will be reset and restarted with all previous picks and bans until the selection error. Which from what i saw, SYS initiated 2 redrafts, the first for idk(could be excused for a technical reason, but the SECOND redraft is just inexcusable) - 3) 7.7.3 Baseline Pause Procedure Onsite Pause Rules Under theses rules and under the list "The only acceptable reasons for a pause are as follows" it indicates no where that a player can request a pause or stoppage of a game/draft cause of a handwarmer. The game can be paused by Equipment issues, but only under: Disconnection of the team communications system Disconnection of in-game sounds from player earphones or headset. - All of these are based of whats seen and presented on live. We as audience don't know the reasoning behind the actions taken in this match, but judging from the footage we can assume that the rules above were broken to some degree- While, the drafts could be an honest mistake, that happened TWICE?? We kinda really get a glimpse of their antics as they paused a game for a HANDWARMER?? and that pause coming in halfway into the game? Unless an official statement comes forward we can only assume and speculate as to why the redrafts even happened in the first place or why a pause for that reason was allowed. Either way just from the livestream alone tournament rules were broken, disqualification from the whole tournament might be a bit too harsh but these type of behavior must be penalized to the highest degree possible. Such a mess for the audience watching live and as well as the staff and teams competing.

thats Not Fair, disqualification SYS!

It's unfortunate to have a redraft as it changes the team mentality of the other opponent, however lets not count out that when we say redraft both teams have equal opportunity to change its heroes.

Its human eror , its unfair

Bren got dqed just because of 1 digit error in IGN Meanwhile SYS:

Why missclick? Bcause their hand were handicap?????

I think in MPL PH before this had the same issue but the organizer just proceeded with the wrong draft picked by the team because it was a human error and not a system bug. Shame on this MSC organizer.

So unfair... how can a 5eam be allowed to redraft?.. Once you pick a hero...y0u should play with it.. Moonton making fishy decisions

no redraft is the fair thing to do. one and done when clicking picks

Magaling ang dalawang magkalaban na assasin. Ling VS Fanny nag tagisan ng Lakas ang bawat isa.

I'm from the Philippines what happen here is not acceptable🙉 UNFAIR at its finest😒👎

the table is so large for a mobile game.. 😂😂😂

This is not the first time this team doing this trick. Shame....

Just hope its never happen again in any team

Both teams will have their redemption if they can beat Onic.

If SYS can redraft edith, SRG should also be able to redraft kagura (since kagura is last)

They planned this.

This sys team must be disqualified in tournament

Doesn't matter just import Ph to be better, this is the key of the region.

embarrassing and unfair to sys to redraft twice

I don't know but it looks like the teams fault. Their time runs out that's why it auto picks lapu. It's their fault for drafting so slow.

They did an Irrad lmao

My Day Dream Has become true lol😂

Already re draft and still lose at game 2? Come on man, big L

It's not first time they do this actually 😏..dirty tactic

See you dog

That is so wrong move for the organizers.. malaking ekis

3million prize rule😂😂😂😂😂

Shame on u la organizer and sys team...

This is just me but what if SRG has the option to redraft the mid laner but they just stick to kagura.

Dirty play from See You Salt

Not respect for sys....even sys change draft but not easy to win with srg....

If SYS wants to re-draft why don't they ask first before RSG chooses the final pick. shame on SYS~

Bad organizer. if you want to re draft, you should redraft the whole game. Its the player mistake who missclick it and you shouldnt fucked up and carefully clicked.

Is djy the caster ?

You can also see the coach of SYS is nervous and got mad at the player , not technical error , this? Is ScamYouSoon error , look at the timer turn to 0 then you pick? Tf? And called it a redraft smh.

I remember dota 2 team misclick, but they have to play anyway. Team Alliance 😅 maybe?

What is redfrwft?

No way SYS thought they were gonna clean sweep the best team in the world right now🇲🇾🔥

So It is SRG underperform or just SYS is better, but it was just one match and I didn't watch whole game.

Redraft dis is ur rules mf..honor of kings is waving

let's protest in every comment column with #SYSredraftisveryunfair

As a Malaysian I'm SO disappointed by this and I'll REALLY HOPE THAT SYS DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE KNOCKOUT STAGE!!

Despite this controversial with this tie its officially stopping SRG win streak Well deserved for See You Soon

shame on production ,who the marshall by the way??? we want know!

Shame to moonton never followed there rule noon pa yan kahit sa BTR IESF BTR vs APbren.