Valve is worth more than 16B. Ain’t no way.

Valve might actually be only worth $16B since Valve is a PRIVATE company. Companies get way more expensive when they go Public - then the share price just keep going up and up and up. That's why usually companies and their execs WANT to go public (but thank god Valve is still private and not a typical corporation). Apparently in that big leak during the FTC case for the Activision blizzard deal, I heard that Microsoft had evaluated Valve to be worth 17B. Nevertheless it's hard to know a private company's value since it's subjective (you don't have a total $ amount like with public companies on the stock market).

If Xbox would have bought Steam, I would just give up PC gaming...

Damn, if xbox can buy valve......maybe they'll buy me....then I'll be fired... Time to freeeeak

Gaben probably laughed to them

I think the xbox app on pc needs to fix their download speeds first and fix their store front UI

That MS Valve Rumour was put out by Valve. I hear Valve are in talks with some big OEM's to ship home PC's with Valves Linux OS and native steam.

Gamepass just got its price raised not long ago. Are they just going keep raising it every few months until it’s hundreds a month

COD makes more money off MTs than unit sales. Warzone makes more money than the mainline entries because it's 'free to play'. The evidence is clear that selling the game isn't anywhere near as important and getting people to play it and open up their wallets to MTs. COD on Game Pass shouldn't hurt MSFT at all.

So at a rough estimate, Cyberpunk 2077 according to steam charts had a peak player count of roughly 830k players, assuming every person who bought that game paid $60 for it, valve would have made $14,946,966, just from Cyberpunk, there is no way in hell that Valve is worth only $16b. Again just very rough numbers and math.

dont forget about all the CS2 skins and Dota skins they make aprox $54,355,263.16 per month just on Cs2 cases

xbox buying steam? valve will be closed in 5 years max

This rumor has no legs to stand on. Its stupid from just reading the premise alone. Whats more realistic is MS probably in talks with Valve to have some steam intergration (or something along those lines) with Xbox consoles. Not sure on that one either, but sounds way more possible than MS buying for Valve for only 16b xD

This is hilarious because there was literally a story over 15 years ago where Microsoft tried to buy valve and steam and Gabe laughed in their face. He stands to make more money owning steam. Also he hates Microsoft since they fired him back when he developed windows 1, 2 and 3 he was fired during 3 which is also the running joke as to why he never makes a third anything.

Valve isn’t a publicly traded company, so there are no shares to be bought.

Rather than a buyout, what about some sort of upcoming partnership, to be announced at one of the events next month? Steam on Xbox? A Steam machine with gamepass support?

Valve makes no money from their games?? Have they not heard about counterstrike 😂😂

editors.. music @4:37 are a bit too loud.. or i might say a little bit distracting...

Crazy how people can just _say_ things and it becomes newsworthy.

Nobody knows whats going to happen its all opinions and assumptions.What we do know is that steam will be integrated into the next xbox and thats it.Nobody in these comments have the slightest idea about what any of these companies will do or what deals they may or may not have in place.We are all gamers and spectators so sit back and enjoy the show so who knows what the future holds 🤷‍♂️

Love your content!! Thank you for being consistent!❤

When I got ultimate a couple years ago it was $11. Now it goes up a feller or 2 twice a year. I rarely even use it but I got ultimate because I have a pile of handhelds and didn’t have an Xbox until recently. I think I’m over it if it goes up again. If it hits $20 that’s $240 a year

Valve distributes millions of games a year and their 30% is mostly profit. Yeah, it'd sell for a lot more.

Tinfoil hat theory. MS Corpos pretending to care about gaming to try get a piece of steam. Break steam to break proton to break linux gaming. Drive people back to windows. Takes hat back off.

let's talk numbers, there is roughly 73k games on steam and imagine with me by average 100k players per game (I know it seems odd but run your imagination here) so 73k x 100k = 7.3B multiply by 20$ "average" = 146B, take 30% which is 43.8B that's for sales only (again speculation not real) and the whole company is worth 16B ?

Subscription services, "You will own nothing and be happy". Are you happy?

Valve is private. I bet they're ACTUALLY worth 100B easily if it goes public

Another reason that Valve would never be bought by MS. Gaben LEFT MS to form Valve because of his distaste with the direction MS was taking their products, especially Windows. He would never greenlight selling his legacy to the company that has led him to kneejerk the most and make a whole Linux distro to combat and develop Proton to make gaming on Linux easier. The BEST they could do is collab as they suggested, maybe buy a small minority stake. But they never will be able to buy MS.

If they raise the price for a game i will never play, i will drop gamepass. I'm not going to pay for (for me) uselessness. Nope.

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It makes more sense if Valve makes a full fledged Console. It would kill immediately the XBox.

People forgot they tried to double xbox live price lol

Ain't no way valve gonna go get bought by anyone. It basically doesn't even have competition

According to Forbes, Valve only have a net worth of $6.9B as of March 2024

This will not happen and must not 😢 Microsoft will simply close steam as one of there last remaining true competitors ❤ imagine the thousands of games you would lose access to 😮

Music is too loud

They should focus on listening to the fans like for example add mod support to fh5 and they shoupd look at other games like gran turismo and make it similar

It's amusing that people value Valve based on emotion. Advice, don't ever trade stocks. It's probably good that they aren't public, lot of people would get rekt. Gabe net worth is assumed to be $4b and couple of years ago, it was said he owns 1/4 of the company (he owned 1/2 ten years ago), so it makes sense that Valve is worth $16b. Very few 400 people companies cost more than $16b, only some crazy startups. Game developer/distributor can cost more, but then they are much bigger. Like Epic Games, which has 10x more employees and is valued $32b. Steam, just like OnlyFans/Patreon, has inflated revenue numbers. Everything they sell, counts as revenue and they distribute part of that to sellers. The 30% that Steam keeps isn't profit. That's profit before the expenses. Steam is not just some store website, they are content distributor, they have large storage/hardware and bandwidth costs.

Valve ain't Selling Steam, pretty sure as long as Gabe is around won't sell. It will be a disaster if Steam is ever sold, especially to a company like Microsoft. Steam is basically the best games store on PC.

Do people just forgot that Gabe Newell worked at Microsoft for years he championed gaming on Windows when Windows was known as a glorified file manager he and a few of his peers are the reason that Windows is the gaming power house it is today. I pretty much guarantee that people from Microsoft some of his old friends even may have contacted him in private likely multiple times about offering to buy his company and his likely answer has always been a resounding NO!

Microsoft should have thrown 100 billion + on the table, assuming the minds of the people at Microsoft right now weren't so deep in the gutters. But it don't matter even if microsoft do sweeten the deal to 100 billies, that deal ain't going through. Microsoft already had a very hard time getting the other 70 billion dollar deal to go through.

🤯 I can't believe yall think the highest selling game every year is not gonna lose any money by putting COD on gamepass a subscription service while missing out on millions of possible game sales for $70 a pop... Is this how all gamepass gamers think???? 🤔

Microsoft also tried to buy Nintendo. They are going to actually buy either

Problem with cod on steam deck you have boot into windows to play cod on steam deck with online play

Also it wouldnt be approved because it would be a monopoly of the pc gaming market . So it couldnt be approved even if they tried .

I’m gonna call my idea “headaches with pictures” from now on. Thanks Matt 👍🏻

Gabe would never let this happen.

Mi uncle who werx 4 Nintendo sas thae r buying Capcom AND Microsoft.

There was black ops 4 and the black ops Cold War which was as 5…

Makes no sense. Xbox is becoming a game service, Steam is a game platform. What would buying Steam do for them? They could just allow Steam on Xbox which would drive more sales

Valve was created to get off the leash of the Bill Microsoft failure field. Doom was the best selling software on UniX not windows and that was a major influence on Gabe newells decision making to leave Microsoft. He's given talks on this, valve tolerates Microsoft but they don't want them or their money.

I love the parrots in the comments who keep spouting how "steam makes 10B a year" as if Microsoft couldn't possibly affort that. Microsoft makes that much in about 3 weeks guys. They make 200B a year. They're worth 3 TRILLIONS. With a T. If they want to buy something they can and will. And then close it down and tweet about how much you need more games like the ones made by the studio you bough and then closed down...

given valve heavy focus on linux and steam deck, the last thing they want is to be bought by ms. So just from that alone the rumour doesn't make sense

They would have to pry valve out of gabes cold dead hands and even then he would haunt them into bankruptcy

Don't say deadlock is successful if it hasn't even come out yet. It's most likely going to be dead on arrival since valve doesn't know how to make games.

they are partnering with xbox though i know that to be true for over exactly 16bn so yeah since they are not buying them because a. valve is a private company and b. valve is willing to partner with xbox now for the 16bn

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The csgo skin market alone is worth over 3 billion dollars 😂

why is this 16 min long, they're not saying anything.

The logic is flawed. If they get the game on game pass and play it like they normally would make between 120-180 per person that does this. Plus they might try more Xbox games which creates more sales opportunities. The only money they are missing out on are for the people who have game pass and would've bought the game. So it's no risk upfront money or some risk with more money long term. It's a no brain for me if I was in charge. They bet the brand on game pass. If they backtrack now for some up front money they will never recover from the brand DMG. Google does that "I quit in 3-5 years if I don't immediately make bank" bs and that's why they have launched a good product in about a decade. Double down. Live by game pass and die by game pass.

Valve would be worth at least twice as much as Activision

If you just play 1 or 2 games on gamepass it’s not worth it. But if you play a lot of the Indy games ea games etc it’s way worth it. $200 a year and I play every bit of 60-100 games a year off gamepass. And if the game sucks you’re not out anything.

It don't matter what price point they put on it they can put $30 and we still going to pay for it just like we pay for Amazon Netflix and every other subscription service so stop acting like if Microsoft up the price we won't buy it

Valve ? what have they done that's any good ...

End of the month. Gotta get those engagement numbers up. Let’s put out some total bullshit that is based on a falsehood from one guy on the internet. Great job team.

DONT LET MICROSOFT FUCKING TOUCH STEAM

Based on recent events Microsoft would destroy Valve and it would plunge PC gaming back into the dark ages.

Thanks to the Xbox All Access Program I havent had to pay for Gamepass in the last 3 years and still won't have to pay until Dec. 2025. I got the Series S through it and then I got the Series X through it as well so that gave 2 years of Gamepass Ultimate from both consoles. So even if they increase the price I'm still good and don't have to pay a thing.

I just cancelled game pAss. They can raise the price all they want. IDGAF no more. 🤘

After taxes it becomes $18 so it is. It's $16.99 before and $18.17 after taxes.

Good cause of they did, I'm trading gaming for skydiving. I don't want to be under the Xbox nefarious game pass/umbrella. Microsoft has only hurt the industry with their greedy decisions.

Have said it elsewhere, but will say it again here. Consoles are just weak PCs with countless features disabled and inaccessible. Oh right, and you cant upgrade them with up to 4 16TB hard drives (more or less depending on your desktop) and a few big memory chips (currently got two 64GB sets. Which takes all four slots but its worth it) Consoles are weak, decrepit, and will only succeed with exclusives. Thats why Sony has beaten both Sega and now Xbox in the console wars, and why Nintendo has already taken first place with everyone else fighting for third.

Thank you, stupid gullible internet, for believing that crap enough for me to get a 16 min video from Matt and Austin out of it!

valve is worth 5 times more than sloptivision is theres no way in hell therye worth 16 billion

Steam: Exists Xbox: "If I can buy that, I can put the games on gamepass. After that I dont need valve anymore because Gamepass will skyrocket!"

Gaben should invite them to their office, make it clear that theres not enough money in the world to buy valve and give them complementary Steam Decks :)

Unsubscribing so I can hear Matt talk about WoW

They should.

Same thing was said about Activision 😳😳😳🤔🤔. Don’t be so confident

Valve won’t be sold to Microsoft, they’d go into the ground in less than a year

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Who's here to talk about WoW?

Yeah, I want to play Steam games, like, Breakneck, on my Xbox

You meant Microsoft, not Xbox.....

They should port WoW to Xbox. Mouse and keyboard required.

Id totally play wow with yall 😂😂

Thank God, Activision would find a way to destroy it

Game Pass natively on Steam Deck would be a sure thing. I would get it day one.

if Microsoft bought steam it would be challenged and probably not go threw that would be rely bad for gaming as they would have to much control of gaming.

My prediction is Xbox done making consoles. Xbox is going to license the xbox name to companies like asus, msi, dell, which will just be computers running custom Xbox software. Example Xbox series Asus. Xbox series MSI. Xbox series Alienware

Even if they increase the gamepass ultimate price to 30 dollars a month, it's still the best deal available in gaming

With all the money in the world, Nintendo still laughed in Microsoft’s face.

Matt talking about WoW is better than constant Pokemon or z-flip from Austin. If Matt stops taking WoW, then Austin should have to give up one of those, if not both (or be censored + fast forwarded like y'all do to Matt).

Can MS afford steam? Noone knows how valuable Steam is...

As of March 2024, Valve, according to Bloomberg, is only worth 6.9 Billion. I’d check your facts a bit more thoroughly before making a video about it.

Tbh they could almost buy Microsoft

I hope Xbox never buys valve. Xbox turns anything gold to trash real quick.

Valve should buy Xbox and fix everything

Is HUGE News

Bro 16billion for valve 😂😂 that's a fuckin joke I would rather valve over Activision 68 billion