NO! You are NOT Irish! History of a big myth in genealogy!

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Family Tree Nuts, History & Genealogy Service

Жыл бұрын

NO! You are NOT Irish! You aren’t a child of Erin, you don’t have the “Luck of the Irish”, and you can’t blame that temper of yours on Irish roots. When Americans are asked what their ethnicity is, millions of us list Irish first. Why is that? Where did this misconception come from? So, if you aren’t Irish, then what are you? In this video, I’ll explain my point, and a little about the migrations of Irish immigrants to America and why so many of us have been told incorrectly all our lives that we are Irish. By the way, you’re not Cherokee either, so be sure to see our video about that topic as well.
Before I get too deep in this video, I guess I need to state the obvious. Of course, some of you ARE Irish. Some of you, or your close ancestors were born there. Some of you have done your family trees and discovered your Irish ancestors names and maybe even where in Ireland that they came from. This video is not aimed at you, it is aimed at those that have been told that they are Irish, assumed it, or simply just wanted to be Irish. Hopefully by the end of this video you will have a deeper understanding of what you are and where your ancestors came from.
To better understand the chances of you having Irish roots, you not only need to know the story of your ancestors, but also when and where the Irish came to America. For the first century of settlement in the New World, hardly any Irish immigrated to America.
The next wave of Irish immigration was the time of the dreaded Irish Potato Famine. During the mid 1840s until the early 1850s hundreds of thousands of Irish left the shamrock shores of Ireland and immigrated all over the world, many of them to America, especially to the Boston area. By the mid 1850s the population of Boston was estimated to be about 25% Irish, with 85% of them being born in Ireland.
Another wave of Irish immigration happened in the 1880s due to economically hard times in Ireland. Many of these immigrants took jobs building the railroads that were quickly connecting the country. And some became coal miners, often in Western Pennsylvania, and other regions in Appalachia.
When I was a boy I asked my mom, where are we from, what are we? The first thing she mentioned was Irish, and I declared Saint Patrick’s Day as my favorite holiday. However, as I got older and did my research, I confirmed that I was Irish, but it was on my father’s side, not my mothers. Why did she think that she had Irish roots?
The fact is, my mother is mostly Scots-Irish, as is my father for that matter. However, the family stories that were passed down said that we were Irish, not Scots-Irish, why is that? What is the difference between Scots-Irish, and “regular Irish”?
I’ll sum up the Scots-Irish as fast as I possibly can. Beginning in the early 1600s, for many reasons, Great Britain, under the leadership of Kings James I, began to relocate many Lowland Scots, and some English that lived along the tumultuous border of Scotland and England. These people were mostly Protestant and had a warrior culture due almost continuous fighting in the region that they were from. They were relocated to Northern Ireland and became known as the Ulster Scots.
In the early 1700s this group of people were heavily recruited to settle in the back country of the British Colonies to serve as a buffer between the native tribes and the English settlements. Their hardy and warrior culture made them a perfect fit for their new home. Like every other ethnic group, the Scots-Irish did spread out all over the map, but they concentrated into Appalachia.
For centuries the Irish have been discriminated against in the British Empire. Their often refusal to assimilate into British society has caused them to be exploited and even enslaved. Many of us have never been told how the Irish were often thought of as a subspecies of humans and how businesses used to display “NINA signs” which were “Help Wanted, No Irish Need Apply”.
For some reason we as humans are attracted to what is often called the “Lost Cause”. It’s similar to why it’s said that many people want to relate to the Confederate States, Native American Tribes, Poor Hillbillies, or even the Civil Rights Movement for some. We have a longing and a desire to relate to those who struggled and overcame, more than we do to those that had it easier.
Links to videos talked about in this video:
NO! You're NOT Cherokee!: • NO! You are NOT Cherok...
Ireland History Playlist: • IRELAND
Visit to Home of My Irish Ancestors: • VISIT TO HOMETOWN OF M...
Our two videos about the Scots-Irish: • THE SCOTS-IRISH, A BRI... &. kzfaq.infoUDKvPmIrvpI?...
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@docsquish
@docsquish Жыл бұрын
Haha. The first minute. You told me I’m not Irish, nor Cherokee. That made me laugh. My great grandfather came from Ireland and married a Cherokee. 😂
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
💥 😆
@montananerd8244
@montananerd8244 Жыл бұрын
🦄
@roadhouse1234
@roadhouse1234 Жыл бұрын
Same here my great great great grandfather (Seañ. W. Stapleton) came to America from Offaly, in mid 1800s. He made money continuing his career as an Irish boxer. He used the money he’d saved to move to Pennington Virginia.
@1rarestar
@1rarestar Жыл бұрын
LOL mine too But not Cherokee. We all thought she was Blackfoot but ended up being Inuit instead. A Neal marrying a Smith. I'm also irish on my mom's side Walker family.
@Ripplesinthewaters
@Ripplesinthewaters Жыл бұрын
Same! The Cherokee line was only one person and I have no DNA left from her. My family is Scottish, but they married into Irish families early in the 1880s in America. 😊
@righty-o3585
@righty-o3585 11 ай бұрын
My mom was born in Dublin, and I am the first generation born American in my family. I do not claim to be Irish. I am American of Irish descent. And proud of it 🍀🤘
@Porks_TV
@Porks_TV 9 ай бұрын
I tracked my earliest family related to me to dublin would love to visit some day
@HenRy-bm9ww
@HenRy-bm9ww 8 ай бұрын
That makes you more Irish than many so called "Irish" Americans who are really just mutts that don't know their own roots.
@soba6538
@soba6538 7 ай бұрын
That’s the distinguishing factor here! Too many Americans give us bad names as people with Irish descent. Most probably don’t even have that and just say they are something to fit in with the caricature that som Americans make Irish folks out to be. It’s disheartening.
@righty-o3585
@righty-o3585 7 ай бұрын
@@soba6538 I'm actually a legal citizen of Ireland 😁
@ScotchIrishHoundsman
@ScotchIrishHoundsman 6 ай бұрын
You can literally have Irish citizenship, you’re Irish lol.
@mtreuil
@mtreuil 11 ай бұрын
I was told all of my life that we were French. Since we're Cajun, that made sense to me. Then I took a DNA test and found out there's also German, Spanish, and IRISH in my ancestry. It turns out, my 2nd great grandma on my dad's side was Irish from County Cork.
@therealmcgoy4968
@therealmcgoy4968 8 ай бұрын
French ancestry gets put into other categories because genetic testing is illegal in France (only gif medical purposes). So people with French backgrounds get results for neighboring countries.
@tonyd3266
@tonyd3266 8 ай бұрын
Research Cork county - depending on the year, the vikings took over Cork and much of that cork dna can actually be viking.
@kcirtapelyk6060
@kcirtapelyk6060 7 ай бұрын
The Cajuns are ethnically and culturally distinct from modern day French people. The Acadians who migrated to Louisiana mixed with other groups of people overtime and developed their own distinct culture.
@jimtom4878
@jimtom4878 7 ай бұрын
​@@tonyd3266that can go for anyone in Ireland
@petermedcalf1191
@petermedcalf1191 7 ай бұрын
What Americans claim as their ancestry is often a matter of fashion. Bring "Scottish" was made fashionable after the film "Braveheart" but ceased after the release by the Scottish government of the Lockerbie plane bomb terrorist. Be proud of who YOU are and of being American.
@user-rc9ew3ky6n
@user-rc9ew3ky6n Ай бұрын
I'm half Irish and half Scots, quite hard really, one part of me wants to get drunk and the other part doesn't want to pay for it.
@roberthuck5589
@roberthuck5589 Жыл бұрын
I had the exact opposite experience. Growing up, I was always told we had no Irish ancestors. They were all from Germany or England. Turns out, I have two Irish ancestors after all.
@thomsboys77
@thomsboys77 Жыл бұрын
Okay….
@JusticeForNicholeAlloway
@JusticeForNicholeAlloway 11 ай бұрын
Me too! Only mine were all supposed to be from Germany and Norway. Nope!
@heavenlyboy34
@heavenlyboy34 11 ай бұрын
Same here! Had to do geneology research to find out for sure because I didn't have reliable family records.
@maggietaskila8606
@maggietaskila8606 10 ай бұрын
Highland Scot, ( Stewart of Apin), Hebridian Scot ( MacLean of Duart )with a smattering of Norwegian ( probably a Viking that stayed in the Hebridies ) Ulster Scot( Donegal) Irish ( Dublin ) and Norman French. What I was told and it proved true on DNA.
@7overland514
@7overland514 9 ай бұрын
Kinda similar story, but my family never mentioned any lineage. I was 20ish before someone asked if I was Irish because of my last name. After genealogical research, it turned out that both sides of my family are Irish.
@cindy844
@cindy844 Жыл бұрын
I have an Irish last name. But in researching my ancestors and building my family tree, I found that most of my ancestors in that line were actually Scottish. They spent roughly a century in Ireland, during which time my great-something grandmother married an Irishman. Then some of them came to colonial America, settling in North Carolina. That's where we've been ever since, lol
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Yes! This story is one of the biggest reasons that I made this video! I talk about this exact same thing in the video.
@cindy844
@cindy844 Жыл бұрын
@@familytreenutshistorygenealogy I like to think that if I could trace my Scottish ancestry back far enough, I would find Scandinavian roots.
@dantownsend761
@dantownsend761 Жыл бұрын
We are probably related! I had scots irish ancestors settle in south carolina
@stephenmcloughlin7718
@stephenmcloughlin7718 Жыл бұрын
The Scots were originally an Irish tribe who inhabited Scotland from Ireland. So the Scots are really Irish. The Scots language comes from Irish. The stone of Scone on which Scottish kings were crowned was brought to Scotland from Ireland and was the stone on which the old Irish kings were crowned.
@cindy844
@cindy844 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenmcloughlin7718 thank you for the info! I watched a video a few days ago that said the same thing, but I don't remember any mention of the stone.
@matthewmills5390
@matthewmills5390 5 ай бұрын
Great video. I am from Northern Ireland and am the “Scots Irish” that you refer to. Northern Ireland remains of course part of the United Kingdom and a lot of us still feel a lot more Scottish than Irish despite living on the “island of Ireland”. However, thankfully now we have peace and hopefully will have more respect between the two cultures as time goes on!
@markkavanagh4457
@markkavanagh4457 4 ай бұрын
Scots Irish weren't Irish, they were actually Scottish.
@EpicAelflaed
@EpicAelflaed 4 ай бұрын
@@markkavanagh4457 The Scot’s - Irish 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 They were from the lowlands of Scotland - Scottish and ENGLISH ancestry
@markkavanagh4457
@markkavanagh4457 3 ай бұрын
@89leemills complex topic but you're definitely not wrong👍
@markkavanagh4457
@markkavanagh4457 3 ай бұрын
You do realise that the plantations began in 1640 and as that was almost 400 years ago, the Scottish part of your DNA will have inevitably been decreased as a result of you living on the island of Ireland. Your own ancestor's, will have married into both Irish Catholic and Irish Protestant families. It's absolutely ridiculous for you to think you're still Scottish, and the fact that you are using religious bigotry, to divide the people of the entire island is puerile, especially when more Protestants than ever before are in favour of a united Ireland. In fact most Protestants North or South do not regard themselves as British or part of the UK, " in fact" you'd be shocked at how many Irish like myself, have Protestant relatives who will never consider themselves as anything but Irish. My late Mother's parents were protestants and staunch supporters of Irish freedom and unity, I'm not the only one by the way. We did the work for peace while the unionists, loyalists and Orange order pissed on the Catholics, Protestants and Presbyterians who didn't agree with their former colonialist masters bigotry. The Orange culture in Northern Ireland was born of colonialism, bigotry, racism jingoism, lies and gerrymandered politics.. time you stepped into the 21st century instead of still thinking its 1690! That's another historical fallacy by the way. The Battle of the Boyne was fought on the 1st of July, not the 12th. The Battle of Aughrim was on the 12th, I'd suggest you look it up and while you're at it I'd suggest a good read of the actual history rather than the fallacy that has been peddled for a hundred years or more. The United Irishmen were Protestants too!.
@SteveCondron
@SteveCondron 3 ай бұрын
Here's hoping.
@leonardbragg7910
@leonardbragg7910 9 ай бұрын
The first of our family to come over from Ireland was in 1845 from Cork. He came in through the St.Lawrence valley as Ellis Island did not exist at the time. He settled in Northern New York and owned a farm. We have an in depth genealogy record documenting this. My grandmother had the same surname as our first ancestor here. We are fortunate to have this.
@AdirondackRuby
@AdirondackRuby 4 ай бұрын
My father's maternal Irish relations (my dad's mom's mom's parents) had a farm in New York too! A Dairy farm in Orange County. They came in the late 1860s.
@laurielovett8849
@laurielovett8849 2 ай бұрын
But Ireland was raided by vikings for centuries do more than likely you have more viking blood in you than Irish. One of the first hospitals in Europe near Thomas St. Was founded by the Norse King of Ireland. He and his Queen were buried nearby. Grave said to be in a builders yard long gone, unmarked
@marke4576
@marke4576 2 ай бұрын
Every "American Irish" person says their family were from cork. That's where the boat sailed from, and the paperwork when they arrived with said cork to New York.
@AdirondackRuby
@AdirondackRuby 2 ай бұрын
@@marke4576 That might be true for some people. But I have generations of birth/baptism/marriage/death records of my ancestors being born across Cork & Kerry. Funnily a lot of them sailed out of England.
@abanico_rodilla
@abanico_rodilla Жыл бұрын
As far as being 100% Irish in Ireland you also need to keep in mind that there were Viking settlements on the East Coast of Ireland in the early Middle Ages (c.800AD), then there is the Norman (Norman-French aristocrats who also ruled England after conquering it in 1066) Invasion in 1169. They left a big legacy in surnames with the Fitz- prefix being thanks to them (and their version of French) and then you had the English Pale which was the English controlled area of East Ireland (including the Dublin area). The Pale would have had some English influence, including the introduction of English surnames (and DNA). Some Irish surnames were also Anglicised to 'fit in' to the English ascendancy. So, you had at least 3 peoples inputting their languages, cultures, surnames and above all genetics between about 800 - 1600 AD, before even the Protestant Plantations in the north began. How much genetic mixing went on between the Irish and: the Viking, Normans and English, is hard to say. Probably less as you went further west. It should be noted however that the Vikings were quite taken - and not fussy - in 'marrying' women from different cultures...they often raided and took as slaves/wives: English, Scots and Irish Women. Many ending up in Iceland!
@johnoneal1234
@johnoneal1234 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why people bother posting if they don't accept replies. This was not a bad post but incomplete. It doesn't make note of the many centuries of intermarriage with Ulster Irish and Coastal and Highland Scots. And it also gives short shrift to the massive influx of Scots Presbyterian Lowland Scots in the Plantation. This makes five gene pools, and the Highlanders being Culturally Garlic but Genetically Viking complicates the picture as well.
@smallfeet4581
@smallfeet4581 Жыл бұрын
​@@johnoneal1234 garlic ? Hmm , was that the Italian influence 😂, I know what you meant , just joking
@smallfeet4581
@smallfeet4581 Жыл бұрын
The lowland Scots were the rievers of borders area , sent because they were troublesome , bells Elliott's Armstrong's etc , before that there was the vikings , Norse and Danes , who both took sides in the fighting of the two biggest families in Ireland thus against each other too , then the Normans who were there to stop the wht slave trade in Dublin , then the Scots (scotti) , Bruce's brother was king of Ireland for a short time , before all this the dal riada from Ireland around 400 ad went to Scotland and settled in Argyll pushing the Picts back , intermarrying as well as fighting , I'm sure the Picts and Scots (it was said the Dal riada were the scotti tribe which is where Scotland got its name from as they were called Caledonii or alba at that time ) , the Picts and Scotti joined to fight the vikings , there was marriages between Norse queens and Scots kings to stop the fightings , one queen brought influence from Jerusalem with her , now we have ones saying the scotti were eastern scythians (is that nomadic \gypsy Iranians as some say ? , Which is why Irish are now told they are not wht 🤷 but the scotti were kicked out of Ireland after a dispute and went to Argyll and caused trouble there , William Wallaces grandfather was french and got land in Scotland from David 1 of Scotland for helping his scottish sister Matilda in the barons wars asshe married an English nobleman , Walter fitzalan came with Wallace's g\grandfather and got the job of high steward of Glasgow , in 1200s I think the huguenot protestants fled to Scotland as they were being killed in France so long before Henry 8th time , some of the planters or maybe Ulster Scots farmers were killed at Portadown , not sure if it was all of them or if more came or brought over , against their will I think , the Ulster Scots were willing to go to Appalachia as they were hardy and it looked like home and no one else wanted that area , the Highland clearances made Scots move to coastal areas and eventually to Canada , the vikings of which there were different ones settled on Scottish islands too after the battle of largs , the battle had no winner they just kept their distances 😂 , Walter Fitzalan (the norman Frenchman high steward of Glasgow) fought with the Scottish king against somerled , the viking lord of the isles
@smallfeet4581
@smallfeet4581 Жыл бұрын
Forgot the Spanish and basque that went to Ireland ,
@LampWaters
@LampWaters Жыл бұрын
Yep vikings loved those Irish princesses.
@COUNTYGAINS
@COUNTYGAINS Жыл бұрын
i think a tonne of Americans look Irish and genetically are irish but for some reason living in Ireland irish people dont wanna say that americans are irish when they clearly are!! During rhe famine 1 million irish went to usa thats why you guys are irish!! i always defend the yanks here!! love from Galway, Ireland!
@risinggael1685
@risinggael1685 2 ай бұрын
Same here...
@JNeace-er9yg
@JNeace-er9yg 2 ай бұрын
We have Irish heritage. Period.
@kcirtapelyk6060
@kcirtapelyk6060 Ай бұрын
To be fair, there are so few full blooded Irish left in America as most have long assimilated into mainstream American society and intermarried with other ethnic groups to the point where it no longer makes sense to claim to be Irish. So I understand why a lot of Irish in Ireland get annoyed at Americans when we claim we’re just as Irish as they are.
@Baldwin-iv445
@Baldwin-iv445 10 күн бұрын
Plus if you look at numbers there are more Irish in north America than the rest of the world combined.
@johnmeadows5645
@johnmeadows5645 Ай бұрын
Im glad that i found your channel, this subject has been on my mind for years. Could you perhaps do a video on the German Palatine families that queen Anne settled in Ireland circa 1710-11.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Ай бұрын
That sounds like an interesting one to do, thanks for the tip!
@forgottenboy9778
@forgottenboy9778 11 ай бұрын
I had the opposite experience! I was always told by my mom that we were super Polish and French as well as German! But my dad was super Irish, and our last name is incredibly Irish. Turns out I’m 55 percent Irish and like 30 percent for the rest of Europe. I swear that my dad knew something, my mom was disappointed hahaha
@vaskylark
@vaskylark 7 ай бұрын
You know those DNA tests are bogus right? Identical twins tested all of them and in many they came out different haha My husband is a card carrying Native American and his nephew did 23 and Me and came out no Native American and they aren't a little Native American they are only 2 generations off the reservation. Don't beleive those tests. They admitted it's only a guess. It can be fun but don't bet on it being at all accurate.
@jimtom4878
@jimtom4878 7 ай бұрын
Your last name is Irish because your dad is Irish lol
@EpicAelflaed
@EpicAelflaed 3 ай бұрын
The Irish weren’t white originally
@anthonyfox585
@anthonyfox585 3 ай бұрын
​@@EpicAelflaed late 1800s to early 1900s Anglo eugenics
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 2 ай бұрын
@@EpicAelflaed What were they then? - and did their skin color change?
@marymary5494
@marymary5494 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I’m British born of Irish parents, grandparents etc. I now live in Ireland. My husband is Irish born, he somehow claims he’s more Irish than I am. 🙄 Like its a competition. I obviously have a British accent, so when my husband has introduced me in Ireland to an Irish person, they may say “Oh, where about’s in England are you from?” My husband usually jumps saying “she’s Irish” and goes on to reel off my Irish heritage.☺️
@silverkitty2503
@silverkitty2503 Жыл бұрын
He is OBVIOUSLY more Irish than you. No it's not a competition?? Obviously you have Irish heritage. But you have British culture too. Which is cool embrace your diversity.
@johnnywarnerperfectroad66
@johnnywarnerperfectroad66 Жыл бұрын
Think it's like saying the Ulster and Eire accents are the same, very distinct difference between the Scottish accent, Welsh and English, I don't think Britain has it's own accent unless it is BBC English (Received Pronunciation). Great thing about accents is their multitude of variation county to county and so on. That said my Scottish wife sounds Scottish to me but her family think she sounds English. And definitely sounds Inverness, not Glasgow, Edinburgh or Baffshire.
@silverkitty2503
@silverkitty2503 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnywarnerperfectroad66 Dude part of ulster is in the republic in fact 3 counties donegal cavan and monaghan and YES they are irish and have an ulster accent they would sound like a northern irish accent.
@johnnywarnerperfectroad66
@johnnywarnerperfectroad66 Жыл бұрын
@@silverkitty2503 fair point only 6 countries in Northern Ireland and sorry to use the more Unionist term. Indeed 9 counties in Ulster 3 of which are in the Republic and not having been to that part of Ireland I made the assumption that the accents would be more Belfast in sound. Sorry to offend
@silverkitty2503
@silverkitty2503 Жыл бұрын
​@@johnnywarnerperfectroad66 what are you talking about belfast is in northern ireland??? Actually tbh it sounds more like the accent from derry...also in northern ireland tbh you wouldn't be able to distinguish some donegal accents from a derry accent. But most derry people are irish even though its in the uk technically.
@juliefreds4594
@juliefreds4594 11 ай бұрын
I was told my ancestors came from Ireland during the potato famine. The men worked in the salt mines on the east coast until they settled in Michigan and that’s where most of our family lives today. When I had my DNA test done it showed that I’m nearly half Irish and the rest is German, Dutch and 8% East African. I was genuinely shocked by the last one because I’m blonde and as white as you can get!😂
@PushandGlide365
@PushandGlide365 11 ай бұрын
When i did my DNA i was Norwegian 45% and Irish 35% with trace amount of Greece 10%, and 1% traces amount not accounted for. We also live in southern Michigan. All my son's and daughters are Blonde hair and blue eyes. A total of all 6 children.
@roselee4445
@roselee4445 11 ай бұрын
There was that white encyclopedia salesman.. . Well it was papyrus. 🤣
@LupinGaius-ls1or
@LupinGaius-ls1or 11 ай бұрын
The Berbers are indigenous N. Africans and could pass for N. European
@mikeb8013
@mikeb8013 11 ай бұрын
Your not blk. You are not negroid. Africans are not Irish. Just like Europeans or Irish are not Nigerian, Ghanian or Congolese. Understand. Go live with sub Saharan Africans see if your negroid african.
@hummingbirdofgumption3263
@hummingbirdofgumption3263 11 ай бұрын
You're probably East African on the Dutch side. I had a cousin show up with E African and Khmer. I couldn't figure out how, but then I found Dutch ancestry and sure enough, a 3rd great grandmother was from South Africa.
@AnnieO100
@AnnieO100 Ай бұрын
I’m Donaho on my dad’s side and Galloway on my mom’s side. I’m a street preacher at 63 years old. From what I can surmise we escaped in 1776. I also have Cherokee and Chickasaw grandmothers. Because they didn’t want to go down that trail of tears.
@patriciaboyles151
@patriciaboyles151 2 күн бұрын
My maiden name is Feagan. My aunt told me that her grandfather John Fagan added the e to avoid the draft. Caught a boat in Denmark and came here. My mother maiden name is O’Dell. My great grandfather married a full blood Cherokee. My mother said she remembered her having to cut her hair bc it was so long she was stepping on it
@xbubblehead
@xbubblehead 11 ай бұрын
When I retired and had the internet as a resource, I started investigating my family tree, and it was stunning to see how many ancestors I had that took part in historical events I had learned about in school. I even discovered an ancestor who was the oldest Methodist in Northern Ireland at the time of his death(but there probably were not that many of them, I think).
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy 11 ай бұрын
When we learn that our DNA was present for a historical event, it makes it more real. It becomes personal.
@xbubblehead
@xbubblehead 11 ай бұрын
@@familytreenutshistorygenealogy So true! Finding I had an ancestor who died at Andersonville really hit home.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy 11 ай бұрын
@@xbubblehead Wow, I bet it did.
@soba6538
@soba6538 7 ай бұрын
Where would you recommend getting started on researching ancestors?
@rickershomesteadahobbyfarm3291
@rickershomesteadahobbyfarm3291 11 ай бұрын
I have some Irish ancestors but I’m an American bc I wasn’t born in Ireland 😂. I was able to trace and validate a few places that my ancestors came from. 1 ancestor from the 1500s was listed as an Scott/Irish immigrant. I’m assuming that means he had a parent from Scotland and Ireland. I also verified some Swedish ancestors and German ancestors.
@punchy1325
@punchy1325 6 ай бұрын
No it means he was part of the plantation of ireland 😂😂😂 there's no such thing as scot irish what's with you Americans and your identity crisis you started good with the whole I'm american bit but then contradicted yourself 😂😂😂
@MultiSpeedMetal
@MultiSpeedMetal 5 ай бұрын
@@punchy1325American isn't an ethnic identity unless you are a native. You euros don't understand colonial dynamics. We still call ourselves Irish and Italian or wherever our ancestors came from because we weren't accepted initially by the Anglos and that made people double down on their roots because of the bigotry. People in Boston are incredibly proud of Irish ancestry because they remember the no dogs no Irish signs. I'm sure Poles in Germany or Irish in England are still proud of that so I'm not sure why this shocks you about America.
@EpicAelflaed
@EpicAelflaed 4 ай бұрын
The Scot’s - Irish Were from the lowlands of Scotland - they were ethnically Scottish and English people 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 They settled in Northern Ireland They then mixed with the Irish and are known as the Scot’s Irish Result = Scottish, English and Irish ethnicity
@punchy1325
@punchy1325 4 ай бұрын
@MultiSpeedMetal your telling an Irish man about colonial dynamics gtfoh you're American it's you that doesn't understand the irish have nothing in common with today's so called irish Americans I'm sure the Italians polish and even the English would agree that none of you are anything like where you think youse are from you're just a parody of what you think we are you've no idea tell me this how come there's no English Americans it was after all England that colonised America where has they gone 😉
@punchy1325
@punchy1325 4 ай бұрын
@89leemills by this logic, we are all African. How far do you want to go back it's ridiculous 🙄
@thepenultimateninja5797
@thepenultimateninja5797 6 ай бұрын
A friend of a friend's family were all of Irish descent. They were very proud of this, and always made a huge deal of St Patrick's Day, and they were all covered in Leprechaun and lucky shamrock tattoos etc. Anyway, they all decided to do one of those genetic test things, and it turned out they had zero Irish ancestry lol. I feel a bit guilty laughing about it because they were actually really nice people, but it is kind of funny. I don't know what happened after their discovery, because I moved to a different state shortly afterwards and lost touch with them.
@enkisdaughter4795
@enkisdaughter4795 5 ай бұрын
A friend of mine has three daughters, one of whom was a researcher for the BBC. One time she and her colleagues were on their way to Nashville to film something. My friend’s parents-in-law were from Ireland, but were old enough to remember when the whole of Ireland was part of the UK. Her father-in-law fought for Britain during WWI. Once Southern Ireland gained independence, they decided they wished to remain British, so moved to the UK. Fast forward and their granddaughter and her colleagues did a stopover in New York. It was 16th March. They went out for something to eat and called in on a bar on their way back to the hotel. The bartender started chatting to them and discovered they worked for the BBC. They noticed the entire bar was dressed in green, strewn with cardboard leprechauns, crocks of gold and shamrocks (a type of clover). One of the party mentioned it and the barman started gushing over St Patrick’s Day (*_a saints day_*). One of the colleagues said to my friend’s daughter “Aren’t your Dad’s parents Irish?” She nodded. The barman almost ran to her. She then asked where in Ireland his family came from. He was a little surprised and replied that both his parents had emigrated to America after WWII from Germany. He didn’t have one drop of Irish blood in him. She found this bizarre. BTW St Patrick was Welsh. He was approximately 16 years old when he was kidnapped and taken to Ireland to be a slave and mind his master’s flock.
@laurielovett8849
@laurielovett8849 2 ай бұрын
I'm Irish too and I'm laughing,I can just picture they're faces. Well I think I'm Irish but an awful lot if us are mostly viking not Irish, vikings raided Ireland a lot some settled married Irish women some took Irish women to the Norse countries.we are who we are and who cares
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 Ай бұрын
@@laurielovett8849 Vikings make up only 6% of Irish population - you're a Viking wanabee.
@emcc8598
@emcc8598 24 күн бұрын
British?
@emcc8598
@emcc8598 24 күн бұрын
​@@laurielovett8849Don't know about ur antecedents but most Irish people today have only minor "viking" ancestry
@kevinmurphy65
@kevinmurphy65 6 ай бұрын
When I did my DNA, and I did three different companies to get a good sample, you know, the scientific method, and with each one that came back I was informed that, even though I am an American, I had more actual Irish DNA than most existing Irish in Ireland. It averaged 87%. VERY interesting that you would highlight this.
@purplepanther2771
@purplepanther2771 5 ай бұрын
I was shocked when we had more British & Irish than the English, Scottish, and Welsh averages on 23andMe. It was close to 97%. My family is always labelled Scots-Irish because they've been in Appalachia for a zillion years. I have dozens of Native Irish, Highland Scottish, Welsh, and Western English ancestors and Gaelic surnames that start with Mc, but they still insist on labelling me Scots-Irish, which is in the mix too.
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 2 ай бұрын
@@purplepanther2771 Term "Scots-Irish" was made up by Americans - they would originally been called Irish.
@laurielovett8849
@laurielovett8849 2 ай бұрын
Most Irish particularly around Eastern Ireland have a lit if Viking DNA as they intermarried and some took Irish wives back to Norse countries
@emcc8598
@emcc8598 24 күн бұрын
I'm Irish and have 99% Irish ancestry and 1% Norweigin from Viking raiders...
@jcue
@jcue Жыл бұрын
born and raised in Ireland. but i think being Irish is as much a state of mind as it is ancestry. Great video. Thank you
@josephperkins4857
@josephperkins4857 11 ай бұрын
No it's Ancestry and DNA
@dharmachile999
@dharmachile999 11 ай бұрын
If you were born and raised in Ireland, your Irish.
@CD-pm9kc
@CD-pm9kc 10 ай бұрын
LMAO
@caldrogo393
@caldrogo393 9 ай бұрын
​@@dharmachile999 As a descent of Ulster-scot Planters who has lived in Ireland his whole life, I'm as Irish as they come. I just think the Irish culture should be abolished and the Irish race should be held in inferior regard 👍
@rebeccawebb2298
@rebeccawebb2298 11 ай бұрын
When we moved to Appalachia, my two boys were very young. The first time I went to the school to pick up my kindergartener, I could not spot him in a group of his classmates because they all looked the same! I've never lived anywhere else where the genetics were so strong. I supect there's a lot of Scots Irish in my husband's line, and my sons have always looked like him.
@kcirtapelyk6060
@kcirtapelyk6060 7 ай бұрын
Your husband likely does have Scots-Irish ancestry, but he most likely has more English ancestry than anything else. The amount of Scots-Irish in Appalachia is often over exaggerated by historians. My family has deep Appalachian roots since my grandparents were from Eastern Kentucky. While we do have some Scots-Irish ancestry, it’s only our third most common ethnic group in our family tree. We have more English than anything else. Weirdly enough, we have more French Huguenot ancestry than Scots-Irish.
@risinggael1685
@risinggael1685 2 ай бұрын
Scots irish for the most part are english descendents of the lowland anglo scots...its the same with biden he calls himself irish but he is descended from anglo irish who are descended from the English...trump is actually more irish that biden trumps mother was a Scottish gael and Scottish gael the true scots are descended from the irish lol so trump is ultimately half irish and biden is english...ethnicly.
@katlynbrown3548
@katlynbrown3548 Ай бұрын
At first I thought this was gonna be like a "actually you'd be Gaelic or Celtic" but nope. And while I have been told I'm Irish by my dad's family.. we actually are. We have Irish ancestry quite a few took a DNA test.
@sandex3000
@sandex3000 8 ай бұрын
What an amazingly eloquent video. As a Scottish person who has a Irish planter heritage, it is really nice to see you give so much info on an American perspective. It is hard enough for us who stayed within the British isles!! Well in, please spread this as far afield as you can!
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy 8 ай бұрын
Well thank you sir! I appreciate your support!
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy 6 ай бұрын
@@user-xu6yl9qu5g That’s like saying humans originated in Africa and you are African. I get it, same Celts, etc. as you go back.
@leestirling4623
@leestirling4623 5 ай бұрын
@@familytreenutshistorygenealogy except that humans didn't originate in Africa. That's been debunked time and again. When I lived in Scotland as a child they were all proud to tell me they originally came from Ireland, not sure if I really believed it as I was a child at the time though. I'm not sure what the scottish/Irish were originally called or why the name changes but here in Britain and Ireland we all originally come from the ten tribes of Israel. My people the Cymry have always been called the Cymry since the beginning. We had the name Welsh forced on us probably to hide who we really are. Maybe the same happened with the Irish. I do know that none of us are celts though.
@brucecollins641
@brucecollins641 5 ай бұрын
@@user-xu6yl9qu5g rubbish. no scots came from ireland......other way round.
@tonymt2788
@tonymt2788 5 ай бұрын
What about st Patrick was he scots or is that rubbish as well 🤷‍♂️​@brucecollins641
@modawg1111
@modawg1111 Жыл бұрын
All four of my Grandparents were born & raised in Ireland. My Parents are 1st generation Irish American. So, I’m 2nd gen Irish American. I claim the title as American. We are a melting pot of all races of the ppl of the world ! Proud to be American & Free ! 😉☘️🇺🇸🙏🤙
@Mugdorna
@Mugdorna Жыл бұрын
Non-Americans can also be “free”
@hueybridwell7756
@hueybridwell7756 Жыл бұрын
Because people aren’t free in Ireland?
@pedclarkemobile
@pedclarkemobile Жыл бұрын
"Free" in the militarised police state. Btw you only need 1 grandparent born in Ireland (any of the 32 counties) to qualify as an Irish Citizen, best passport you could have.
@charlesd3a
@charlesd3a Жыл бұрын
You're entitled to apply fir your Irish passport as you through Irish law are Irish also.
@pedclarkemobile
@pedclarkemobile Жыл бұрын
@@charlesd3a your only Irish if you apply for and receive citizenship. Citizenship is backdated to birth once the process is complete. There is a 2 year wait at the DFA currently, my son was born abroad and it's taking forever to get him registered as a foreign birth (first step to getting a passport).
@RobertWilke
@RobertWilke Жыл бұрын
Well I’m grew up German, my birth mother when I found her told me she was adopted. And that her original last name was Blankenship. Through ancestry dna test I was able to confirm that she was and that it was from Northumberland just below Scotland. The shock was when I found out my birth father was 100 percent Irish. I was able to trace that his family came from the center of Ireland. I’ve made contact with a second cousin that knew of my family there. I intend to see him when I go there hopefully later this year. From what I’ve put together my Grandfather who came here was back and forth a bit at the turn of the last century. I think he may have had some trouble with the authorities that made him come here.
@TerryWaitesRadiator
@TerryWaitesRadiator Жыл бұрын
Du sprichst sehr gut Englisch! Wo in Deutschland kommst du her?
@RobertWilke
@RobertWilke Жыл бұрын
@@TerryWaitesRadiator Ameriica sorry. My family I was raised by is of German ancestry (Wilke). As it is though I found out that I’m also 1/4 German from my birth grandmother (Terbruggen).
@maureen9115
@maureen9115 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather had to leave Ireland on the run from the British he was fighting against. He was what was called the flying Irish. He was only going to go abroad temporarily, but died leaving his Gaelic speaking wife in Canada with 5 young children. There was lots of turmoil back then in the 1920s through even the 60s+. Maybe your grandfather had similar reasons for running.
@johnoneal1234
@johnoneal1234 Жыл бұрын
That's a great story and I wish you continued success.
@jjbiggmann5576
@jjbiggmann5576 Жыл бұрын
BEING IRISH, IS A STATE OF MIND.....HAVE GREAT "CRAIC". HERE IN IRELAND.
@Hollowluna
@Hollowluna 2 ай бұрын
That’s something I still want to someday, is visiting Ireland. Seeing where my ancestors of the clan Caoṁánaċ, had been laid to rest, and where they ruled.
@honey-feeney9800
@honey-feeney9800 Ай бұрын
All of my ancestors came to America in the 1880s . My name is Feeney. My mom was a Grier . Her mom was a Casey . My dad’s mom was an O’Malley . I’m not anything else but Irish . My family dug the Erie Canal , then settled in the hard coal in Scranton .
@robf8023
@robf8023 Жыл бұрын
I loved this video. It totally applied to me. My mother always said we had Scottish and Irish roots. After finding out more about where I come from, I found out that we were Scotts Irish. Ulster Scotts, etc. I am so PROUD!! I grew up knowing a lot about my fathers side of the family from Spain and Italy... my mother never really knew a lot (her parents divorced when she was a baby). She always just said we have "some Scottish and Irish". Turns out... damn near pure Scotts Irish from both her mother and father. I found out my 5th great grandfather was the first out of only two to escape captivity at Ruddell's Station (He also has a video on it).
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support Rob, and you definitely have a lot to be proud of in your Scots-Irish roots!
@rymic72
@rymic72 Жыл бұрын
You can now build a bonfire made of pallets each 11th of July complete with effigies of the pope, Irish tricolours, and with KAT for ‘kill all taigs’ spray painted all over. This will help connect you with your Ulster Scots roots who hate all things Irish.
@MiloManning05
@MiloManning05 Жыл бұрын
They founded the kkk
@ultrademigod
@ultrademigod Жыл бұрын
Just a little niggle, it's Scots not Scotts
@martinconnelly1473
@martinconnelly1473 Жыл бұрын
Guess where my surname comes from? My Irish ancestors left Ireland about the time of the potato famine and went to Scotland, ending up in Dundee but my grandfather moved to England in the early 1900s. I also have ancestors from the Aegean islands with about the same degree of Greekness as Irishness. The other half are English so probably very mixed anyway so I consider myself as having very mixed ancestry.
@felishahauswirth9336
@felishahauswirth9336 Жыл бұрын
Amen!!!! Be proud of who you are and the people who made you who you are!!!
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! And there we find our true identity.
@JustMe-qe2ki
@JustMe-qe2ki 6 ай бұрын
Omg so glad I found your channel. Such a good explanation. Thank you 🙏🏼 ❤
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for you kindness and support!
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 2 ай бұрын
@@JNeace-uk8ue Not true - a third of their DNA is Irish.
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 Ай бұрын
What that the Irish didn't come before 1850? - that is just wrong.
@MikeDerucki0
@MikeDerucki0 3 ай бұрын
Do you have a source for these maps used in the video? I'd love to take a closer look
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy 3 ай бұрын
Which maps would you like a source for? I will see what I can do.
@MikeDerucki0
@MikeDerucki0 3 ай бұрын
@@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Thank you!!! I was wondering in particular about the map with different color-coded regions and it seemed to be sectioned off further by county. I'm seeing it at the 8:45 mark
@lorrainegrattan8528
@lorrainegrattan8528 Жыл бұрын
I'm an Ulster/Scot born and bred in NI. When I joined My Ancestry last year, I never realised just how of many of my distant cousins live in America. I'm 50%Irish from my dad's side and 50% Scottish from my mother. Many get tribal over the Scots Irish/ Irish Scots tag, I get that, but many forget that Scotland and Ireland have been closely linked well before the plantation and that's the case with my family. That appears to have been forgotten by some.
@MrResearcher122
@MrResearcher122 Жыл бұрын
Are you a Protestant or Catholic Ulster woman?
@lorrainegrattan8528
@lorrainegrattan8528 Жыл бұрын
@@MrResearcher122 I'm a Protestant Ulster woman. My late mother's side were 75% Scottish, with their surnames being Ross and Napier. as well as ties to French Huguenots. My late fathers side was 70% Irish, 30 % Scottish, with ties to the Irish politician Henry Grattan banded about, though I don't know if that carries any weight until I look further back on his ancestry. I always assumed my family were full Scottish on both sides, until I found out what I inherited from my father.
@CS58420
@CS58420 Жыл бұрын
@@lorrainegrattan8528 I completely agree. I grew up in an extremely Scottish and Irish area in Ontario, Canada and although remnants of the religious divide in the community still existed to a very small extent in the 1990's it is extremely common for people to have both Irish and Scottish, including Ulster Scots ancestors.
@lorrainegrattan8528
@lorrainegrattan8528 Жыл бұрын
@@CS58420 that's it Corey. Sometimes people forget just how much Ireland and Scotland are tied together. They have more in common culturally and have been visiting each others shores for hundreds of years, at least.. As a Ulster/Scot protestant, I was pleasantly surprised to see my late fathers Irish ancestry from the South of Ireland. And here I was thinking I was of just Scottish stock lol. I'm blessed with both. . 🤝♥️
@CS58420
@CS58420 Жыл бұрын
@@lorrainegrattan8528 I find that very encouraging to hear. I have studied the conflict in Northern Ireland since my early teens and have been quite disturbed by the recent rise in tensions, just like so many other parts of the world. In my view It's very important for people to know where they are from and maintain thier culture but these things should not define who we are as individuals and it should not be a cause for conflict. It seems like we a retreating into tribalism, which I believe is very dangerous.
@kasunex1772
@kasunex1772 Жыл бұрын
When I did my DNA test, I actually found out I had more Irish than I thought (25% vs 45%~). However I did have a similar surprise - my Dad had always told me he had some distant native while my Mom told us we had some Jewish (on the maternal line, significantly). Well, I took the test, and I've got both native and Jewish ancestry...from opposite sides. My Dad has distant Jewish ancestry from his Polish ancestry, while my Mother has distant indigenous ancestry from her Ecuadorian ancestry.
@user-cc2zk6gi2u
@user-cc2zk6gi2u 11 ай бұрын
Jewish ancestry on the maternal line is VERY significant because it is through that line that "Jewishness" is established.
@kasunex1772
@kasunex1772 11 ай бұрын
@@user-cc2zk6gi2u Yeah my Mom thought we were jewish, but no
@RobertJeffreyHill
@RobertJeffreyHill 7 ай бұрын
I was always told we were Irish-American growing up. It turns out, my mom’s family indeed were recent Irish Catholic immigrants to NYC. My father’s side, however, was Welsh and Scots-Irish who arrived in Appalachia pre-1776.
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 2 ай бұрын
The Irish were there pre-1776. In fact, Washingtons troops celebrated St Patricks Day!
@dsxa918
@dsxa918 11 ай бұрын
It's taken me years to learn this much, but with two grandparents born in Ireland you know, it's not been an unrealistic response. I'm still watching,
@ljcl1859
@ljcl1859 Жыл бұрын
My grandmother was born in Boston in 1926, I had her DNA done right before she died at 93 yrs old. Originally her hestimate was 100% Irish, and her update says 96% Irish, 4% Scottish. I did the family tree, and so far they all go back to Ireland. Haven't found the Scottish ties, probably just a bit from many different branches.
@ravenmccall5486
@ravenmccall5486 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I have been working on my tree for years. On my paternal side of the family, one branch always said they were Scots - Irish, while the other side is Scottish. I never understood the term Scots - Irish, and it's nice that you cleared that up for me. The timeline you laid out for the Irish immigrations' to America fits perfectly with what I have been able to find about my Scots - Irish branch! On my maternal side, Irish all the way, as I am only third generation American on that side. At least I have a better understanding as to why they came thanks to you! Slainte!
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 9 ай бұрын
There are no people called the "Scots-Irish" - that is an American racist term, invented in the 1800s. They were Irish before that.
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 2 ай бұрын
Scots-Irish means Irish. The Irish have been there for three centuries.
@kraziecatclady
@kraziecatclady 11 ай бұрын
I remember when I was a little girl my mother once told me that we were Irish. I ran in the house to ask my grandfather because my mom often said inaccurate things. My grandfather reacted as if I had asked him something horrible and went into some kind of crazy almost incoherent rant about being Scottish. My grandmother, who normally would have said something to get him to stop ranting, went into her bedroom and was crying. I was very confused and decided not to ask that question again. At some point I got ahold of my grandmother's birth certificate and it said that her father was born in Ireland. She was also Roman Catholic and was in some manner disowned by her family for marrying my grandfather who was Southern Baptist. I found his birth certificate too and his mother was Protestant and was also born in Ireland. My grandmother had always claimed we were French and Canadian, so the birth certificate confused me quite a bit. My grandfather's birth certificate confused me too because of how vehemently he had reacted to the question compared to what I saw on his birth certificate. It wasn't until I was taking a college history course that talked about the Irish War of Independence that I put two and two together and realized what had happened that day. My grandmother must have been ashamed about her Irish heritage and my grandfather's mother must have been from the other side which I'm guessing is what you referred to as "Scot's Irish." I'm guessing that my grandmother must have hidden the fact that her father was Irish from my grandfather. They weren't very young when they got married, so it might not have been that difficult for her to hide. My grandmother always talked about being incredibly poor growing up and a lot of the struggles she went through. Sometimes she would talk about her father having trouble getting a job, but it was in a weird, hushed manner with a serious lack of detail. She was from Boston and my grandfather was from Ohio.
@laurielovett8849
@laurielovett8849 2 ай бұрын
Im Irish We are told crazy things by our parents. I was told my maternal grandfather was Methodist, but when I delved into genealogy I found that the marriage was not in his wife's parish as expected,couldn't find a record,then I was informed that marrying a Protestant she couldn't be married in her own parish but would have to travel 20 miles away and be married behind the altar. Right enough I found them married in Trim 25 miles away from Kildare. Quite a trot in 1882. In the 1901 census he was listed as RC ( perhaps wishful thinking on the part of someone) by 1911 census he was Church of England, not a mention of Methodist anywhere. No 1921 census available yet,but by then i think he had died. By all accounts a good husband and father, but I havnt a clue where he is buried,as none if his family attended his funeral R C Church didn't allow it. Would love to know where my grandfather is buried. Think he died 1911 as he left his job in the Railway that year, can't find his death record in civil records. His wife died 1931 I know where she is planted.
@mrdonigan
@mrdonigan 8 ай бұрын
My great, great grandfather came to the US in 1870 with his wife and first of many children. I managed to find distant family still in Ireland near the town he left and met them in 2000. We're still in touch to this day.
@RachelLWolfe
@RachelLWolfe Жыл бұрын
I'm Scots Irish, German and English on my dad's side, and Persian on my mother's side. I look more Persian than anything, but I claim every heritage in my ancestry. I'd love to be able to trace my father's side back to Ireland and Scotland, but I've hit a dead end in Pennsylvania. My 2nd great grandfather's middle name was McLaughton, which I've always found interesting. Unlike other names in my family it wasn't passed down to anyone else. I've often wondered why, and where the name came from.
@HowWeGotHere
@HowWeGotHere Жыл бұрын
Great video I've been finding a bit of the opposite in my family tree some of my family that had assumed were Scots are Ulster-Scots (preferred term in Canada still) so what I thought should have been almost a 50/50 split Irish (Paternal) / Scot (Maternal) isn't. The only reason is that I can think of is they were trying to assimilate better in what was a Scottish Presbyterian community
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 9 ай бұрын
Yes, the opposite of what he is saying - and I'd say they'd be far more who are Irish and DON'T know it!
@samjam2376
@samjam2376 3 ай бұрын
My mom's name was Green, and my dad's name was Collins, but I have never done my family tree. I'm also a poor Hillbilly from Prestonsburg KY.
@user-xv6uz3ij5e
@user-xv6uz3ij5e 5 ай бұрын
I’ll be honest, you got me with the intro because I was like “I’ve done my family tree and they came from Ireland”, but if people made it just 2 minutes into the video they would have known and understood what you were talking about lol.
@akoww1000
@akoww1000 Жыл бұрын
This goes for so many people other than the Irish too. I worked with a woman who said she was African American and her family was brought here as slaves, then she did a DNA test while working on her family tree :P She found out her family came from Europe in the late eighteen hundreds. She was only a few percent African from what the test showed. she was able to find out that Her great"etc" grandparents came to America in 1897 lived in NYC their whole lives and had a successful business and had kids. My friend's grandmother moved to Florida in the 1960s with her daughter. come to find out it was her mother that told her that her family was bought here by slaves and she was African American. My mom told me I was German/Italian and after I took a DNA test myself I found out I was 60% Irish,30% Scottish, and 10% random stuff " not German or Italian lol. Why do people need to lie to their kids like that?
@charlesgallagher1376
@charlesgallagher1376 Жыл бұрын
Probably not a lie but misinformed.
@andym9571
@andym9571 Жыл бұрын
Even St Patrick wasn't Irish. He was from ( what is now ) Britain !
@marke4576
@marke4576 2 ай бұрын
Whales
@emcc8598
@emcc8598 24 күн бұрын
​@@marke4576Wales!
@muragarasu6384
@muragarasu6384 2 ай бұрын
What a fascinating video, I'd never actually heard about this before but it makes a lot of sense as to why when helping a friend trace her family tree that it got a bit confusing, like she was always telling me she was Irish but I found I was able to trace her lineage to Scotland and Nova Scotia instead. As for me, growing up, my mom would say we're just "American," but after looking at her family tree details, both of her grandparents on her father's side moved to the US from County Mayo Ireland, and her mother's side was French. I'm Scottish and "Melungeon" on my dad's side; was always under the impression that Melungeons were tri-racial Irish, Native American and African, but now I'm wondering if they were actually Scots-Irish due to being settled in Appalachia.
@edavidson38
@edavidson38 11 ай бұрын
I'm a Butler and we were Norman-Irish. We were cousins to Queen Elizabeth the First and we led one of the major uprisings against the Crown later on. It's because of that and the "Flight of the Earls" that we are in America now. The first of my ancestors born in America was born in the New England area (Census says Plymouth) but they were born 6 years before the Pilgrims, so I am not sure if that was called Plymouth at the time or not. His mother at least was in servitude to Dutch settlers and I assume his father was too but the records are not complete. I've grown up on the tales of my ancestors from there to the Cumberland Plateau in TN and their adventures. We have a very deep and rich history just in America and it gets even crazier dating back to the time of William the Conquerer. Love the video!
@CarlosGambino_22
@CarlosGambino_22 Жыл бұрын
We took a genealogy DNA test at my school about 40 of my class most of us thought we were Irish. Turns out most of us were actually English/British & German..so did other classes they turned out mostly English/British & German.. I heard it wasn't cool to be English/British or German because of the wars & history of those countries so mojority of Americans picked being Irish over being British/German.. Don't if that's true but it makes sense.. Most of our American presidents have English/British ancestry..
@kylef3928
@kylef3928 Жыл бұрын
And the truth slowly emerged
@andym9571
@andym9571 Жыл бұрын
Dig deeper into English/ British history . Find the truth and facts . There is a lot of 'twisted' history out there to suit a narative. Check out how the British were the first to ban slavery and actively fight against the rest of the world to stop it. You may feel more proud once you know.
@ianjones1034
@ianjones1034 Жыл бұрын
It always amazed me how many American citizens claimed Irish ancestry , It's a pity this video wasn't available in the early 1970's perhaps then a lot of people learning the truth would of thought twice about supporting the IRA financially
@kylef3928
@kylef3928 Жыл бұрын
@@ianjones1034 Absolutely i totally agree, The IRA campaign of ethnic cleansing and Genocide against Scots Irish in Northern Ireland was greatly funded by people mistakingly thinking they where Irish.
@kylef3928
@kylef3928 Жыл бұрын
Thankfully DNA doesn’t Tell lies
@jessicamceachern602
@jessicamceachern602 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video! I’m Irish on my dad’s side -both his parents had family from Ireland. One I know was from County Clare, another from Galway. The comment about wanting to be a certain heritage because you want to identify with a certain struggle resonated with me. My grandfather was not just Irish, but Scottish as well, and I learned his ancestors on that side fought in the Battle of Culloden against the English (and paid for it when they lost…ended up moving to Canada to start their lives over).
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I’m glad that you enjoyed. Yes, it is an interesting concept that we are drawn to our ancestors that had struggles more than those who had it easier.
@tomjackson4374
@tomjackson4374 Жыл бұрын
I have a whole company of my family at Culloden (Gordon) and the family moved to South Carolina after they lost. I am Scots-Irish English but don't care. I am a Southerner, born in Mississippi and all my family fought for the Confederacy. That is my heritage.
@davidtrindle6473
@davidtrindle6473 Жыл бұрын
My ancestors are 100% irish as far back as we have records to 1728 when they emigrated to Pennsylvania.
@Ionabrodie69
@Ionabrodie69 Жыл бұрын
@@davidtrindle6473But YOU are American NOT Irish.. 😊👍
@leod-sigefast
@leod-sigefast Жыл бұрын
The battle of Culloden wasn't the Scottish vs English (another common misconception from history) it was pro-Jacobite Highland Scottish (mainly Catholic supporters of the exiled King James) rebelling against pro-British pro-William (later pro Hanoverian) mainly Protestants forces (the majority of England, Scotland, and Ulster supported this). So sides at Culloden were mainly some Highlander Scot clans (Jacobites) fighting against Scottish regiments and English regiments of the British Army/government forces. A rebellion in its truest sense. Culloden was a decisive battle of the long Jacobite rebellion which sought to restore the Stuart dynasty to the throne of Great Britain (there were supporters from Ireland, parts of Scotland, even some English). Because James II was Catholic the majority of England, Scotland and Ulster (Northern Ireland) supported the Protestant King and the British government. You seem to have been snared again by the American simplification of British and Irish history as: Scots & Irish (Goodies) vs English (Evil Baddies). Culloden was NOT a Scottish independence battle against the English as many wrongly like to portray it.
@richoneplanet7561
@richoneplanet7561 11 ай бұрын
Man love the history - subscribed 👍
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy 11 ай бұрын
Awesome Sir! Thank you for your support!
@invadertifxiii
@invadertifxiii 6 ай бұрын
i have a question though are u able to share the other ancestries that people from ireland and northern ireland after get in their results like u did for the irish percentages in this video
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy 6 ай бұрын
I’m not sure that I’m understanding your question. Are you asking what percentages do people have that have Irish DNA ?
@invadertifxiii
@invadertifxiii 6 ай бұрын
@@familytreenutshistorygenealogy so people from ireland if they took 23andme or ancestry dna test what other ethnicities percentages would they get . also sorry i just saw this because i had another question so i came back
@invadertifxiii
@invadertifxiii 6 ай бұрын
@@familytreenutshistorygenealogy my new question is, i looked at my ancestry tree and realized some of the northern irish ancestors on my fathers side were still there up until they moved to pennsylvania in late 1800s. but the scots-irish immigrated to appalachia in the 1770s. what does that possibly mean? could those particular ancestors be irish that stayed despite the ulster plantation in 1609
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy 6 ай бұрын
@@invadertifxiii They could be. They also could be Scots-Irish as well. There was a mass immigration wave in the early to mid 1700s but people also trickled in at all times.
@invadertifxiii
@invadertifxiii 6 ай бұрын
@@familytreenutshistorygenealogy thank u
@patrickmckiernan8706
@patrickmckiernan8706 Жыл бұрын
I’m 82% Irish, 11% English & 7% Scandinavian! Third generation, Irish, all my great-grandparents were from Ireland! Very proud to be Irish!
@JustinHH22
@JustinHH22 Жыл бұрын
I reckon you might be a Viking👍👍
@deborahpacheco2799
@deborahpacheco2799 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I've the name of the ship and the passengers record showing my ancestors on my Dad's side were indeed from Ireland, & have the documents from my Mom's side showing my Grandmother was indeed a Cherokee.
@Maw0
@Maw0 Жыл бұрын
At least you can actually claim those traits. I can claim the Irish one, not the Cherokee one.
@lunalou8888
@lunalou8888 2 ай бұрын
Im australian and my grandmother was Irish ... i will always celebrate her and our heritage
@okcdog5439
@okcdog5439 8 ай бұрын
This was an interesting video. I found a copy of my great-grandparent's certificate of marriage, showing both of them came from Limerick so I knew I was part Irish. My DNA results also showed my Irish ancestry; although, DNA shows my ancestors were from the Connacht area (I'm trying to reconcile those things). However, I was confused when my DNA results also showed a fair amount of English ancestry. I know part of that came from my father, but this video helped me confirm that my Irish ancestors likely also contributed some of that English DNA.
@CarolynDavasligil
@CarolynDavasligil 5 ай бұрын
You should also know that when the English ruled Ireland their women were raped by English man to subjugate them.
@LeeCaithness
@LeeCaithness Жыл бұрын
I understand what you say about relating to the lost cause. I’m from one of the Scottish islands (Stronsay in the Orkney archipelago) but my surname is the name of a highland region. (Caithness). As many highlanders were driven mercilessly from their homes, having them torched or knocked down to make way for modern farming due to the clearances. Many left for the US or Canada. However, some went only as far as the outlying islands. Hence I always suspected our ancestry lay with those poor people and I always felt I related to those people. I felt I couldn’t have a name like that without a connection to the area. My belief in this became greater when I read in a book of Orcadian Surnames that the name came to Orkney from Caithness around this point in history. Perhaps I’m just drawn to the nostalgic nature of the lost cause but I feel there must be something in that. I felt very proud in 2014 voting yes in that referendum even if it was unsuccessful. Who knows maybe it’s all coincidence. Anyway off to paint my face blue and yell freedom at the top of my lungs. (Yes I’m aware that film was a great piece of entertainment but horribly inaccurate.)
@duncancallum
@duncancallum 6 ай бұрын
You tell them Hen. Alba Gu Brath.
@sigurdfenrisson2446
@sigurdfenrisson2446 11 ай бұрын
One of my great grandfathers… William “Willy of Tildarg” Gilliland was a Coventor who fought the king and had to flee to Ulster. If you do a web search for him, there’s an account of his medieval John Wick actions, killing English dragoons because they found his hideout and killed his beloved doggo and stole his white mare. Which he took back upon spearing the dragoon who was on it, yelling to the others, “now, ride for it, you dogs!!” and led them on a 30 mile chase, before ultimately escaping. He was later captured and imprisoned, but then some time later released and granted land by the king. His son came to America… so, really not even a full generation in Ireland as Ulster Scots before becoming southern hillbillies.
@DaithiKerr68
@DaithiKerr68 3 ай бұрын
So let me get this right, you have a covenanter who is medieval? Who fled from the Kingdom of Scotland ruled by the Stuart dynasty at the time of the covenanting wars and he fled to Ulster which was ruled by the same Kings and where all Presbyterian males had To take the black oath and submit to Royal power. He then fought as a rebel in Ulster and was captured but pardoned and give a Pat. On the back and then went whistling off to the colonies at a time period when Scottish ships and merchants were not allowed access to American ports. OK any evidence for this big tale?
@sigurdfenrisson2446
@sigurdfenrisson2446 3 ай бұрын
@@DaithiKerr68 yup… go ahead and do a web search for William “Willie of Tildarg” Gilliland. There’s also a ballad from the 1700s about him called “Willy Gilliland, an Ulster Ballad”, written by Samuel Ferguson. There seems to be conflicting information about whether he was exiled to the “new country”, or his son John was. The also had another son, also named William. The Covenanter one was born 1647, and apparently died in 1679. I’ve read that he died in Londonderry and also New Jersey. So I’m assuming the New Jersey one was his son.
@GAMER123GAMING
@GAMER123GAMING 3 ай бұрын
Fvck off you have demons in your ancestry. you arent no human.
@josephkelleher8820
@josephkelleher8820 3 ай бұрын
I am definitely Irish. My great great grandfather immigrated from County Cork in 1849. He settled in western New York State where the railroad jobs were.
@susandavis7245
@susandavis7245 6 ай бұрын
As a proud person with strong Scots-Irish family, The main way to see if you are Irish or Scots-Irish, first, were they Catholic or Presbyterian? Catholic= Irish, and Presbyterian = Scots-Irish. The Irish setteled in the NE, NY. Mass. The Scots-Irish came in through Pa, setteled in the Carolinas, Ga, Ala, Ms, essentially, the South. If. You are interested in the facenating history of The Scots-Irish, where they began, how they got to Ireland, then later to the USA, Google the very interesting films called BORN FIGHTING. You will learn the history of where they came from, their history, William Wallace, Robert the Bruce, etc, Very interesting set of films. And the majority of redheads come from Scotland, ( the ScotsIrish were the groups of Scottish who were setteled or given lands in zNorthern Ireland, interesting story there, too.
@gower23
@gower23 Жыл бұрын
So this was an emotive and potentially explosive topic that was handled extremely well. I'm glad that the comments were so measured and balanced. For context, as a contemporary Ulster-Scot from Northern Ireland, I'm 71% Scottish, 24% Irish and 5% English and that's fairly typical of people here.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support and that DNA percentage is very interesting.
@piked261
@piked261 Жыл бұрын
Protestant 🤔
@scented-leafpelargonium3366
@scented-leafpelargonium3366 Жыл бұрын
​@@piked261 Does it matter what religion? The DNA doesn't reveal that. Thank God! 🙃
@RevStickleback
@RevStickleback Жыл бұрын
@@scented-leafpelargonium3366 In this context, the Scottish element would hint at it very strongly.
@scented-leafpelargonium3366
@scented-leafpelargonium3366 Жыл бұрын
@@RevStickleback The Scottish are as divided on religious grounds as the Irish. Nationality and geography does not denote religious affiliation, except by opting for the majority that only counts. While the Americans herald much Irish descent, much of them originated in Scotland. Children who are born into these complications, like myself, cannot be blamed for history.
@caribshogun9772
@caribshogun9772 Жыл бұрын
For a while my mother said we were mixed with Irish, but I did the DNA test through ancestry and her family is predominantly English and Welsh from our European ancestors and Scottish mix on my dad's side. Like how you said must assume. One fact that you did leave out is that in England and Scotland there actually were minority groups of Irish immigrants that did mixed with the local people.
@jjbiggmann5576
@jjbiggmann5576 Жыл бұрын
25%...OF "ENGLISH" TODAY...HAVE IRISH ANCESTRY.
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 11 ай бұрын
Yes - 22% of British population has Irish DNA! (a third of the Welsh and nearly half of the Scottish DNA is Irish).
@RebeccaC2007
@RebeccaC2007 11 ай бұрын
@@johnpatrick5307 All down to close proximity and mixing between the islands. Most of us in Britain and Ireland are of mixed ancestry.
@christianwithers7335
@christianwithers7335 10 ай бұрын
The Irish invaded Ireland, Ireland belongs to the welsh. Irish and British DNA is very different
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 10 ай бұрын
@@christianwithers7335 Ireland belongs to the Welsh? First time I've ever heard that. Irish DNA is the most Indo-European(Aryan) in Europe. British DNA is really mixed. See: Son of Manu.
@jaginaiaelectrizs6341
@jaginaiaelectrizs6341 11 ай бұрын
I'm supposedly a tiny distant bit Scots-Irish on my mother's side. Tracing my family genealogy is tricky, because someone on my maternal grandfather's side of the family was adopted, as was someone on my paternal grandfather's side too. But we did eventually discover that my paternal grandfather's biological family were Irish and somehow related to Murphy's Donuts. I don't know for sure how genetically Irish they were or weren't though. Lol
@TexasCorgiGun
@TexasCorgiGun 4 ай бұрын
I know, every white person in the US claims they are Irish. I find it hilarious
@maggied7368
@maggied7368 Жыл бұрын
It appears my Dads family came to Ireland from Scotland long ago before going to the USA. But some of my Moms ancestors were from County Clare. Of course we have plenty of German and Czech too lol.
@kathyborthwick6738
@kathyborthwick6738 Жыл бұрын
My mother’s family is also from County Clare and My father’s family came from Donegal!
@iammissiemarie4302
@iammissiemarie4302 Жыл бұрын
I grew up knowing I was mostly Irish from my father's side but, I never really connected culturally with it. I knew about a sugar coated version the history of Ireland, but It wasn't until a few years ago that I took a real interest in learning Ireland. It turns out that all of my 3rd great grandparents on my father's side came to the US during the famine. My ancestry also points mainly to the southern boarder of Ulster. I have since learned more about the famine, work houses, the Ulster plantations, and all of the injustices that were put upon these poor people. It has definitely given me a great appreciation for my ancestors who have survived and have the courage to come to America and start a new legacy.
@hotmechanic222
@hotmechanic222 Жыл бұрын
Unless you have Irish grandparents then you cant claim to be Irish, you are American
@iammissiemarie4302
@iammissiemarie4302 Жыл бұрын
@@hotmechanic222 Your bloodline doesn't disappear because your grandparents moved to a different continent. I can easily apply and get dual citizenship in Ireland through my ancestry.
@hotmechanic222
@hotmechanic222 Жыл бұрын
@@iammissiemarie4302 Not according to the Irish governments website you cant
@iammissiemarie4302
@iammissiemarie4302 Жыл бұрын
@@hotmechanic222 And you know my or my ancestors status how?
@hotmechanic222
@hotmechanic222 Жыл бұрын
@@iammissiemarie4302 Because you told us about them in your original comment
@mikehcharles
@mikehcharles 5 ай бұрын
You may have solved a problem for me that I hadn’t thought of. I have one line from Lancaster, PA that is Scots-Irish but dead ends in Lancaster. From the census they claim their parents were born in this country and one census specifies PA however no record of their parents seems to exist. It now seems possible that they their parents were NOT born in the US but they recorded that they were to avoid stigmatizing. Thanks for giving me another road to try.
@Euroscot9155
@Euroscot9155 4 ай бұрын
Great video, I can see why many assume victimhood through choosing an ethnicity, victimhood seems to be quite a fashionable trait for some reason in these modern times, also I guess there is a stigma attached to the Northern Irish / Ulster Scots being "British" rather than being the type of Irish who were oppressed by the British. Also the "Hill Billys" are from the protestant followers of King William hence Billy boys that planted roots in the Apalacian mountains = Hill Billies.
@tommyanderson-filmmaker3976
@tommyanderson-filmmaker3976 Жыл бұрын
Growing up we were told we were Irish, when I got older and researched we had a rich Scot-Irish heritage coming to America in 1727 Philadelphia at Scott's Landing.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Yes sir, I actually bring up this situation in the video. The word “Scots-Irish” didn’t exist in their time, so they simply identified as Irish.
@Si_Mondo
@Si_Mondo Жыл бұрын
​@@familytreenutshistorygenealogyIt's a redundant term anyway, because Scotland is literally named after an Irish tribe which settled there.
@MiloManning05
@MiloManning05 Жыл бұрын
@@Si_Mondo Scot’s Irish means Anglo Saxon
@frankmorton1920
@frankmorton1920 Жыл бұрын
The Scots are a separate proud nation. The Irish are a separate nation. Americans always refer to the Scots/Irish who originally were Scottish immigrants to Ulster(Northern Ireland).
@THISISLolesh
@THISISLolesh Жыл бұрын
@@Si_Mondo Must be a yankee to say some shit like that.
@patriciayohn6136
@patriciayohn6136 Жыл бұрын
My maiden name is Bell and my Paternal Great Great Grandfather was born in Clones, County Monaghan in1841 when his was about 12 his family moved back to Paisley Scotland because the rest of their family was there. He emigrated from Paisley Scotland to Philadelphia in 1859. My Grandmother's maiden name was McLaughlin and my Paternal Great Grandmother's maiden name was McVey. We were Presbyterian.
@voiceofraisin3778
@voiceofraisin3778 Жыл бұрын
Bell? Now theres a rabbit hole you can vanish down for weeks. Definitely a clan who deserve looking at, preferably from a safe distance.
@frankmorton1920
@frankmorton1920 Жыл бұрын
Bell is a Scottish surname!
@patriciayohn6136
@patriciayohn6136 Жыл бұрын
Thank you and absolutely true, Clan Bell N.A. member, my Grandfather always told me that our family were horse thieves and murderers back in the home country.😎😎😎 Na Belich.! Are we distant Cousins?
@camaderrygoat1314
@camaderrygoat1314 Жыл бұрын
McLaughlin is an interesting one, if you go back far enough its actually viking, but that is give or take a thousand years ago, so there would be a mix of Irish in there etc...
@patriciayohn6136
@patriciayohn6136 Жыл бұрын
Camaderry Goat, to my family knowledge my Paternal Grandmother's Father, John Mclaughlin, emigrated to Pennsylvania from Ulster mid 1800 hundreds and my Father's yDNA is the same as the Naill of the nine hostages, of which I believe the Irish McLaughlins are a Sept. My younger Brother, James Bell also has a minute amount of Viking blood and I have even less, although, I have more Neanderthal genes than my Brother. LOL!
@artemis199
@artemis199 10 ай бұрын
My husband's great grandparents came from Teelin, Ireland. He knows this bc his grandmother still has their Ellis Island papers. However, when researching the surname McShane, they came from Scotland in the 1500s. (The Ulster area)
@carlbrown8966
@carlbrown8966 11 ай бұрын
I always thought i was Irish too. Turns out, im decended from Danish Vikings that settled in Ireland. So from Ireland, but not ethnicly irish.
@jasonallen6081
@jasonallen6081 Жыл бұрын
Another complication to this subject is that the largest minority in England are the Irish. Millions of English people have Irish ancestry. Also James 1st and 6th of Scotland was a Scottish king of England. The British in Ulster are Ulster Scots mostly. It's all become so complicated to follow because everything has become about ethnic identity and focusing blame for the last 800 years. Another one is that Britain is an island divided into three countries. The Welsh, English and Scots are all British. All of our problems stem from the Norman invasion of England in 1066. It's so complicated.
@lennysmom
@lennysmom Жыл бұрын
What I found doing my family tree is that you can trace English and German ancestors back for centuries, but trace someone born in Ireland and it’s a dead end. You would have to go back and look at parish records, if you could find them.
@katesleuth1156
@katesleuth1156 Жыл бұрын
@@shaunthompson8943 That’s what I’ve been told. There may however be parish records held in some parishes.
@jimbobarooney2861
@jimbobarooney2861 Жыл бұрын
Have you date of birth, or county or parish, many surnames in Ireland can still be very localised, there is 1901 & 1911 census freely available online, there is the tithe allotment book 1820s and 1830s, and Grifiths evaluation from 1850s, these only give head of household, some parish baptismal record also 1830s, not much earlier records, unless your ancestor was nobility or landowner
@lennysmom
@lennysmom Жыл бұрын
@@shaunthompson8943 Along with the 1890 census probably.
@lennysmom
@lennysmom Жыл бұрын
@@jimbobarooney2861 , thanks for the info and suggestions.
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 2 ай бұрын
But they DO have clan names, there is ancestry right there - if you can tie in with a clan you can go back a long way!
@tradcatpat2385
@tradcatpat2385 10 ай бұрын
My paternal great grandfather emigrated with my 2-year old grandfather to America in 1910. My grandfather would make the trip back to Ireland several times in his life to keep it alive in him.
@cynthiaherting1044
@cynthiaherting1044 2 ай бұрын
Ha, I am a black Irish or a dark Irish . came over during the potato boats from Galway. Earlier, my german grandfather married a girl who was 1/2 scottish and 1/2 Cherokee. They had 13 kids. I have 7 different nationalities in me . A mutt LOL.
@gwaptiva
@gwaptiva Жыл бұрын
I've always wondered about St Patrick's Day in the US, seeing that the majority of Irish in the US are protestants
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Yes after celebrating the holiday in Cork City, it was interesting to see the difference between there and the U.S.
@1952jodianne
@1952jodianne Жыл бұрын
Andrew Jackson was an Irish-American Presbyterian, but a member of the Hibernians & the Friendly Sons of St Patrick. And like most non-Anglican Irishmen, whether Catholic, Presbyterian, or otherwise, he hated the British with a passion.
@1952jodianne
@1952jodianne 3 ай бұрын
How so? I understand that the historical term, "Scots-Irish" or "Ulster Scots", refers to those people from the Scottish lowlands &/or Northumbria, who were planted in Ireland in the 16th through 18th centuries, & were primarily Presbyterian; however, my Scots-Irish ancestors were from Ulster, were of Highland Scots ancestry, & were either Anglican (Church of Ireland) or Catholic, & were descended from the Gallowglass who started coming to Ireland as mercenaries as early as the 9th century & as late as the Jacobite movement of the 17th & 18th centuries. They didn't fit the profile, but, nonetheless, were Irishmen of Scots ancestry. Many of my other Irish ancestors were not native Irish, but Hiberno-Norman, who often adopted native Irish ways, & became "more Irish than the Irish themselves". These folks were settled mostly in Leinster & eastern Munster, Dublin to Cork, & many places in between, having arrived in Ireland in the late 12th century, at the invitation of Dermot MacMurrough, the last native Irish king of Leinster, from whom I'm also descended.
@1952jodianne
@1952jodianne 3 ай бұрын
Irish-American Presbyterians of primarily lowland Scots planter ancestry. Doesn't really include me, my ancestors were mainly Church of Ireland or Catholic, & of Cambro-Norman origin. I'm Catholic myself (my father having been baptized a Maronite Catholic - different side of the family altogether, not Irish). @@jonnyneace8928
@1952jodianne
@1952jodianne 3 ай бұрын
Anyway, the Scots-Irish Presbyterian, Andrew Jackson, proudly celebrated St. Patrick's Day, & was a member of both the "Friendly Sons of St. Patrick" & the "Ancient Order of Hibernians", which presumably wasn't an exclusively Catholic organization in Jackson's era. Of course, even today, non-Catholic Irish & non-Irish Catholics are eligible for associate membership.
@McNastyxx95
@McNastyxx95 2 ай бұрын
I have ancestors who were from Ireland and some who were born native Americans from both parents natives. But I’m not Irish or native, I’m just American. 🇺🇸 From PA / WV and then OH.
@JNeace-er9yg
@JNeace-er9yg 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. I have Irish and Native heritage, but it's removed by 100 years, so I am not them.
@BadKarma714
@BadKarma714 7 ай бұрын
I am Cherokee, my grandfather, and my father lived on the reservation
@staciarenee2982
@staciarenee2982 2 ай бұрын
Hey! I'm scots-irish, always have been told that's what we are. My ancestors settled in the mountains of North Carolina (Appalachian). That side of my family are STILL there. They came over in the 1700s. One ancestor i found was born in Kent. But, on my ansestry dna test (all of this came up correct), i am over 1/3rd Scottish, and some Irish, but my full blood sister, has more Irish than Scottish. Funny how genetics work.
@redheaddetective8424
@redheaddetective8424 Жыл бұрын
This is interesting. I’ve seen people in Ireland that have taken a DNA test that was between like 50-75%. I was born in America, so we’re my parents, and grandparents, but my great grandparents were all Irish. My ancestry came out at 90%. We also have a lot of blue eyed redheads In my family.
@Sandwich13455
@Sandwich13455 Жыл бұрын
Inbreds
@seanfaherty
@seanfaherty Жыл бұрын
oh, but we're not Irish
@redheaddetective8424
@redheaddetective8424 Жыл бұрын
@@seanfaherty 😉
@eoghaincooper4248
@eoghaincooper4248 Жыл бұрын
I guarantee if you use a different DNA test company you'll get a completely different percentage... Your DNA test doesn't make you Irish... It's a matter of nationality and culture
@redheaddetective8424
@redheaddetective8424 Жыл бұрын
@@eoghaincooper4248 So, you’re an expert on DNA, then? I didn’t say that it made me Irish. I’m well aware that I’m American, but the majority of my ancestry is Irish, but apparently you know my ancestry better than I do. Kick rocks, buddy.
@UnclePengy
@UnclePengy Жыл бұрын
My mother's side of the family were very Irish in the way they looked, some of the foods they ate, etc. They came from the hill country of southern Indiana, so they could have been "Scots-Irish", but the family tree before their arrival in Indiana is difficult to trace. I got none of the "Irish" heritage from them other than my short stature, which was common for all on my mother's side of the family except for, ironically, my mother. (My father's lineage, on the other hand, was almost all from the Glasgow or London areas and came to the West from the deep South by way of Texas.)
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 9 ай бұрын
They should have Irish names.
@UnclePengy
@UnclePengy 9 ай бұрын
@@johnpatrick5307Maternal grandfather's name was Casey, which I understand comes from Cathasaigh and is Irish or Scots-Irish origin. Maternal grandmother's name was Skinner, which also has Gaelic roots.
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 9 ай бұрын
@@UnclePengy Casey/ O'Casey is an Irish clan.
@MrsK4759
@MrsK4759 4 ай бұрын
Oh, thank goodness! I always thought I was Scottish and German, with a drop of English. Then FTDNA changed me to Irish. Just me. No one else in my family. None of my verified Scottish and English cousins, not my brothers and sisters, not my parents. Just me. Now I know I am not Irish. I feel so much better! And my kids are Cherokee. They have CDIBs to prove it. And Cherokee Nation car tags.
@pjparkwood9277
@pjparkwood9277 8 ай бұрын
My adopted father's family on his mother's side was from Rosenallis, Ireland. The family names were O'Fahey (originally O Fathaigh), Jordan, and Coffee.
@PiperHughes
@PiperHughes Жыл бұрын
I’m Irish -my grand parents were first generation and my uncle is a dual citizens. Never really thought about how many Americans claim to be Irish
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Wow, that is very recent immigration.
@MuddieRain
@MuddieRain Жыл бұрын
Millions believe it
@modawg1111
@modawg1111 Жыл бұрын
All four of my Grand Parents were born & raised in Ireland. My parents are 1st generation Irish American. So, I’m 2nd gen Irish American. I’m American. Period. Proud to be 💯# Free ! 😉☘️🇺🇸🤙
@elizabethgrogan8553
@elizabethgrogan8553 Жыл бұрын
@Doc Peaches I presume you were born in the U.S. That means you are American. Did your grandparent's children all marry Irish people? Having grandparents who were born in Ireland does not make you Irish. I'm born and raised in Ireland. I've met so many people, on my travels, who tell me they are Irish. I always ask where they were born. I haven't met 1 who was born there.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
@@elizabethgrogan8553 It appears that this is a thing where native born Irish are offended by people born abroad saying that they are Irish. You and they share the same ancestors. It’s a matter of interpretation of the difference of ethnicity and nationality.
@Maw0
@Maw0 Жыл бұрын
I don't have to do a DNA test because I already know that my Nana's grandparents (my great great grandparents) were born in Ireland. Still, I don't go around and act like I'm Irish because I honestly don't have any of their culture inside of me.
@christianwithers7335
@christianwithers7335 10 ай бұрын
So you are 1/16th Irish, woohoo top of the morning
@notmyrealname01
@notmyrealname01 3 ай бұрын
I've got just a drop of Irish in me, so I'd say I'm lucky enough! Very interesting with the census records, I've seen where a few of my relatives would always put England as where they were from. As they got older, they would instead write Scotland or Wales. My mother always said that her father's side was Scots-Irish.
@elizabethbarton3047
@elizabethbarton3047 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video, you explain everything so well. I took a DNA test and found I'm almost 60 percent Irish and the rest Dutch. Since I am adopted I have no clue when they came over or why. I know where my adopted fathers family is from in Ireland but I feel I can't really say I can claim it. What is interesting though, both my birth mothers family and adopted father share the same surname. I think it would be funny if they ended up being related. It is very frustrating not knowing my history. Maybe in the future DNA testing will be able to pinpoint where in the country people's ancestors are from not just given the entirety of the country.
@thijnpiera1225
@thijnpiera1225 3 ай бұрын
Having irish and dutch dna is the best combo you can have!
@therongjr
@therongjr Жыл бұрын
My father believed that he was 100% Irish. I did some research which showed that my last is from "MacGilleFhaolain" . . . and there was Scots branch and an Irish branch, but the Irish branch may have died out. This led me to believe that my father was actually Scots-Irish . . . except his family had been in western Pennsylvania (as farmers) since the early 1800s. So now I'm not sure anymore! 😆 My mom's family isn't any easier: a Polish spelling of a German (possibly Prussian) last name, but they immigrated from Austria-Hungary. 🤷‍♂️
@therongjr
@therongjr Жыл бұрын
Oh, my father was also proud that he was "lace curtain Irish" and not "shanty-town Irish." I later learned this wasn't exactly a compliment; I guess the lace-curtain Irish would try to affect a veneer of material success so as to pretend that they were better than their poorer counterparts.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Well if they were ok Western PA since the early 1800s, there is a VERY good chance that they are Scots-Irish since it was them and the Germans who predominantly settled there originally.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
I suppose we have lace curtain folks today too, lol.
@brucecollins641
@brucecollins641 Жыл бұрын
@@familytreenutshistorygenealogy the english (mainly english) the welsh/scots/dutch/swedes/germans were the earliest settlers. the first settlement was a town called jamestown (named after the scottish king james who was also king of england and ireland at the time. these people woul have assimilated and morph into americans about a 100 years before their scots kin the ulster scots arrived then the later irish in the 1800s.
@Karl_with_a_K
@Karl_with_a_K Жыл бұрын
It's even more complicated than that 🤣, the Irish (gaels) settled Scotland, then came back to Ireland as Scots-Irish. The Mac or Mc in a surname means "Son of". The Irish branch of the name are still going strong but mainly known as O'Faoláin in the Irish (gaelic) language, the anglicised versions are Phelan, Whelan & McLellan.
@connielocke9700
@connielocke9700 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Going by names, always thought I was Irish, DNA shows 47% Scottish! Think they also sailed from Dublin, kinda like today, if I needed to go somewhere by bus I would have to catch bus in different town than where I live. Gotta go where the bus or ship is.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, plus many ships made a few port stops picking up passengers before crossing the Atlantic. The Titanic did that.
@fergal2424
@fergal2424 Жыл бұрын
For anyone in Ireland. upon seeing your second name we'd immediately identify it as Scottish.
@timothymurphy7127
@timothymurphy7127 3 ай бұрын
My father was an Irish immigrant. Spoke Gaelic. Pretty sure Im Irish.
@qualqui
@qualqui 11 ай бұрын
Coming across a cutout from a newspaper obituary funeral notice of my paternal grandpa, and since here in Mexico we retain both our mother's and father's last name, in the notice appeared: "passing of José María Serrano Scanlan, I thought Scanlan isn't no spanish last name, so with the help of Google, I find out its Irish, originating in County Louth(or Lough)and while I was happily surprised to know I had Irish in me, as most of my classmates thought I was Greek(maybe on account of my huge nose?), now I wonder if instead of being part Irish, I'm part Scotch-Irish? 🤔Thanks for sharing and yeah, would be so cool to go one day to Ireland, but first doing my geneology research to apply a name to my Great, great grandfather, my dad told me to Irish brothers disembarked in the port of Veracruz, fell in love with two Mexican girls and the rest is history. No wonder my dad's cousin Concepción Serrano looks more Irish than Mexican, and why we would always call her "Güerita"(Blondie).😛👍
@maxinetate5211
@maxinetate5211 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I am mostly English but have a Bryan line on my father's side. I have always thought of them not as the stereotypical Irish. They came to America 16 or 1700s. Will need to do more research.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Interesting, I wonder if they are connected to those that married into the Boone family.
@mustelidpeter
@mustelidpeter Жыл бұрын
Bryan is also an English surname. As a matter of interest Tate is a common surname in Northern England.
@jacquelyns9709
@jacquelyns9709 Жыл бұрын
I was always told that I was English and Irish on my father's side and German on my mother's side. Not quite true, however. Turns out my father's grandmother was married 3 times. I'm descended from her 2nd husband, a Draper. Her 3rd husband was Irish. He was an O'Leary. In school, we were told that everyone is Irish on St Patrick's Day. I attended school in several different states and we were told this in all of them.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Wow, great story and example. I mentioned this scenario in another video entitled No! You are NOT Cherokee! Often these family stories are past down from a step-parents side and over time it gets muddied as to the facts. That’s for mentioning this.
@1952jodianne
@1952jodianne Жыл бұрын
Mary Ingles (nee Draper), well-known frontier woman kidnapped by the Shawnee from southwestern Virginia & taken to Ohio, was the daughter of Irish emigrants.
@jakeuhhb2
@jakeuhhb2 2 ай бұрын
It may not be very relevant in my blood but I do have great great grandparents that come from County Antrim in Northern Ireland. It was an interesting discovery at first glance.
@Dhhhhj27
@Dhhhhj27 2 ай бұрын
Antrim was and is heavily protestant .....although the Earl of Antrim McDonnell is catholic
@helenblakovich1622
@helenblakovich1622 10 ай бұрын
My maternal grandparents were from mid-Connacht, and my paternal grandparents were from other locales in Ireland. So I feel ok with using Irish descent, esp since I talk with maternal family regularly.
@felishahauswirth9336
@felishahauswirth9336 Жыл бұрын
Yes exactly. I do have some actual Irish ancestors. My O’Brians, O’Rourkes, and McCartys. But most of my ancestors are English, Scots Irish and Welsh.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Sounds similar to me as well.
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 Жыл бұрын
@@nickycampbell79 When was this?
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 Жыл бұрын
@@nickycampbell79 1785? - that gives a lie to what this website has been saying, that the Irish only came after the Famine.
@FRADAVE02
@FRADAVE02 Жыл бұрын
This is the same reason I call myself Sicilian, rather than Italian, as I referred to myself in my teens. When I got older and learned that Sicily was the crossroads of the ancient world, I realized that I was probably a patchwork of different ethnicities! 😊
@dannyregal
@dannyregal Жыл бұрын
Cecil Well said The further you go back then most of us are More in common than we realise
@dennisproulx3215
@dennisproulx3215 2 ай бұрын
I’m part Irish, full American. Though we may have been one of the few Jewish Irish many generations ago. Hartnett
@ryanpierce5460
@ryanpierce5460 11 ай бұрын
I'm 3/4 English ancestry and only a small amount of Irish. My whole life I was told I'm 3/4 Irish. Amazing what a little research can tell you once you dig deep enough.
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