Nobel laureate William Nordhaus: The economics of climate change

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Күн бұрын

What is the optimal policy to address climate change? What are the costs of climate change? And how will technology and innovation help?
In his keynote, Professor William Nordhaus of Yale University combined the interdisciplinary insights from natural sciences and economics to address a set of critical questions.
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William Nordhaus has been awarded the 2018 Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences for ‘integrating climate change into long-run macroeconomic analysis’, jointly with Paul Romer. His pioneering work on climate economy models greatly advanced understanding of the complex interactions between climate change and human economic activities. It provided a sound scientific foundation for climate policy prescriptions discussed in international fora and adopted in many industrial countries since the late 20th century.
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@liamhickey359
@liamhickey359 Жыл бұрын
This is the genius who said climate change wont affect industry too badly because much of it happening indoors.
@nthperson
@nthperson 9 ай бұрын
Just a few days ago I listened to an interview of University of Vermont ecological economist Joshua Farley, who expressed a good deal of criticism on the approach to dealing with climate change as advanced by William Nordhaus. The interview took place on Planet: Climate. I urge anyone seriously concerned about the future of our planet to listen to Professor Farley.
@DozenDeuce
@DozenDeuce Жыл бұрын
*Me* ‘What’s the deal with politicians pushing this climate-change stuff?’ *This guy* ‘I’ve incentivized honest, hard-working politicians to tax the living f*** out of plebs just trying to make ends meet’. *Me* ‘But that could result in political upheaval, the collapse of the global economy, mass starvation &/or war, resulting in the deaths of untold millions of people! Are you absolutely sure that that we can trust career politicians that keep buying beach-front property’? *This guy* ‘Trust me bro’.😎
@maxschmid5791
@maxschmid5791 2 жыл бұрын
A uniform carbon price will only serve to keep the poor, poor. It is well known that the poorer nations rely on high carbon energy sources and will continue to do so as long as they cannot afford newer and cleaner energy sources. I find it despicable to deny large portions of the world the opportunity to develop and improve the lives of their citizens. Without affordable energy they ave no chance to better their lives.
@jthadcast
@jthadcast 2 жыл бұрын
corporate rationing is the only restraint this economy could ever impose to make any difference. what was that saying, "you'll have to pry these emissions from my cold dead hands"
@ivan24zg
@ivan24zg 2 жыл бұрын
deny and opportunity to develop? WTF are you talking about? Who forced the developed world to produce billions of humans? you CANNOT have 8 billion humans having a carbon footprint of an average Westerner, otherwise we all die.
@filamcouple_teamalleiah8479
@filamcouple_teamalleiah8479 10 ай бұрын
So why aren't we providing the money and technical oversight to bring them up to speed. Do the world's billionaires really need all of those magnificient yachts? It seems as though political ideologies are overcoming common sense. If climate change starts to erode civilization sugnificantly then the markets for commercial expansion will simply disappear as countries devolve into chaos as food and fuel disappear. I'll give you an example: like China, the Philippines (my home) is completely dependent upon inputs. We import about 6 million tons of wheat each year. We are beginning to eat like Americans. We have 7-11, Shakeys, McD, BK, and other Am food chains all over. What happens to much of the economy as CC destroys wheat and corn production around the world? Will the US export to us if they lose 1/2 of their crop? We also import 240,00₩ tons of feed for our chickens and pigs. Globilization is failing. Huge price hikes in minerals is already underway. China has now suspended gallium and germanium exports. And perhaps WW III has already started we just haven't acknowledged it yet.
@darylfoster6133
@darylfoster6133 8 ай бұрын
@@filamcouple_teamalleiah8479 Seriously? Who is this "we" that is going to provide the money to other countries? You're welcome to send your money to these countries. It is not my problem or responsibility to fund the energy needs of other countries. Most of those countries are third world authoritarian sh1tholes. Maybe if they tried freedom and capitalism, they would have better results with the use of their resources. Climate change is at least 90% nonsense. It isn't going to erode civilization. Try learning some actual science about the climate instead of making blind statements.
@richardzimmermann9372
@richardzimmermann9372 Жыл бұрын
Let’s not forget that Nordhaus in 1991 claimed that 3 degrees warming (!) would only reduce national income by 0.25% of national income. The Noble prize in economics is awarded to the wrong people.
@arctic004
@arctic004 Жыл бұрын
The main thing to remember listening to this doddering whatever is that he started out admitting he was more poorly informed than many in the audience and he is so right. Economists have utterly failed in their job to inform governments and the public as to the longer term costs of their policies---remember 2008? Just one example of many. Quantitative easing? How about the abandonment of the gold standard? The list is endless. He insists on a HARMONIZED carbon tax? Sure. You think developing countries will buy this? Or maybe you think the West will pay for their billions of consumers? China is building a new COAL-fired power plant few months with 700 of them planned. But what about the 1 graph that showed anything substantive? You know, the Prof. Mann 'hockeystick'. Well, Mark Steyn debunked that in Court but just look more closely at that red line. You will find the blue line stops near the bottom, barely visible under the red. The purely red line that shoots up to the top is pure bogus extrapolation. Unjustified given the observed fluctuations. Guys like this are very very dangerous. He is driven by blind moralistic urge which is, in turn, driven by an unreasoning fear.
@MDMUBASSIRRAHMAN
@MDMUBASSIRRAHMAN Ай бұрын
expected more granular and innovative solution from a Nobel laureate
@mikiallen7733
@mikiallen7733 Жыл бұрын
they cover 80 percent of the world geography wise I believe , but how much do they represent in terms of yearly global economic output i.e. global GDP ?
@noelburke6224
@noelburke6224 Жыл бұрын
Total rubbish
@lanep2023
@lanep2023 Жыл бұрын
1997 to 2023 is 26 years, not 33. Confused?
@xTheTrommeL
@xTheTrommeL 6 ай бұрын
I like the idea but wouldn´t members of the club suffer a lot from others not participating as well? Trading-sanctions affect both sides, it impairs competition and increases the prices of goods. Would have been interesting to hear more about advantages of joining the club and especially how devoloping countries should agree on something like this since they´d have the biggest disadvantages from it
@jhonnybalcazarflores543
@jhonnybalcazarflores543 10 ай бұрын
¡Que pena! ...para mi es un obstaculo el idioma. Escuchar a los nobeles de economia es aprender mucho. Intuyo que es una grandisima conferencia.
@simon-ski
@simon-ski Жыл бұрын
Super interesting lecture! I understand some people find his presentation style not too engaging, but its worth pushing through the video. Very thoughtful insights.
@MrBallynally2
@MrBallynally2 Жыл бұрын
Oh dear, he falls in the usual traps then offers solutions that make things worse. It's a common pattern..
@herbwiseman9084
@herbwiseman9084 Жыл бұрын
We have long passed the point where market solutions like carbon pricing will help. That ONLY impacts mitigation and maybe adaptation but we need to remediate. I call it MAR. Regulation needs to happen but economists like Nordhaus worship market solutions and their values system opposes regulations.
@zuhahussain8820
@zuhahussain8820 2 жыл бұрын
Threats to climate change Continued trends for rapid warming The landscape on carbon pricing Current approaches to International agreements ( Kyoto protocol and Paris accord) Suggest a climate club to provide structure of incentives for strong action Scientific background: global CO2 emissions more than 2.5% a year. Even though we have taken steps in some of the countries, if everyone doesn't get to work on it, nothing is going to change .
@stevenkurinec4194
@stevenkurinec4194 2 жыл бұрын
I find it odd that he doesn't ever mention the negative economic impacts of tariffs when those are his final solution. It is basic economics that tariffs do nothing other than increase the price to the consumer. They don't hurt companies or incentivize change. Sanctions, such as zero trade for non-compliance, might work but I am doubtful.
@DavidNorden
@DavidNorden 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong, the tariffs put on cigarettes also made that less people are smoking today.
@briannariley4997
@briannariley4997 2 жыл бұрын
LOL read his book.
@simon-ski
@simon-ski Жыл бұрын
What a non-sense. Assume 90% of countries are part of the ‚club‘ - 10% are not and pay high tariffs to trade with the 90%. That sure is an incentive for those ‚free rider nations’ to adhere themselves to Carbon emission limitations and join the club.
@cratonin
@cratonin Жыл бұрын
This guy is so najve about reality.of cold econonimic reality and the damaging Impact on social life worldwide. He should specialize in a different area of economy before he help bring on disaster.
@helgeellevset3004
@helgeellevset3004 Жыл бұрын
He does not know Michael Manns hockeystick has been debunked and calls it "the best proof I know".
@throwaway692
@throwaway692 11 ай бұрын
You would think a Nobel Laureate would understand you have to actually be following the scientific method to be doing science. Perhaps he can explain how it meets the requirements in the absence of both experimental reproducibility and a falsifiable hypothesis.
@A3Kr0n
@A3Kr0n 3 ай бұрын
I'm not hearing anything about exponential growth, but I didn't listen to everything. There are no solutions in the light of exponential growth.
@krishnanair9390
@krishnanair9390 3 жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice how this tariff idea is totally in accordance with Adam Smith's theory, to put it in terms of that- Nations acting in their own self-interest will benefit the world much better than they could if they were acting with an intention to benefit the world
@ouss
@ouss 2 жыл бұрын
Smith said that about INDIVIDUALS not nations. Nazis were going to war for their own self interest but it didn't benefit the world much
@kruse8888
@kruse8888 2 жыл бұрын
@@ouss Firstly:What a stupid analogy. Second: You can’t conclude that a nazi victory would have been good for humans overall. It’s actually to the letter the same ideology the Globalists base their NWO, Build back better, Great Reset agenda on, a uniformed world with a centralized power structure.
@newcreationeconomics2981
@newcreationeconomics2981 Жыл бұрын
@@ouss individuals make up a nation
@markschuette3770
@markschuette3770 2 жыл бұрын
only the if the UN is fully funded can this worldwide approach be accomplished.
@MG-ye1hu
@MG-ye1hu 2 жыл бұрын
From a logical standpoint, Mr Nordhaus is absolutely right. A carbon price is probably the best way to transform the global economy in the direction to less emissions. However, I think he underestimates the socially disruptive effects. It would impact the living standard of millions of people. That's why it is never going to happen.
@kruse8888
@kruse8888 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the only fair way to do it. As it is today the rich countries buy up the poor countries Co2 quotas and leave them unable to have a revenue generating industry leaving them in a downwards spiral.
@simon-ski
@simon-ski Жыл бұрын
True, social systems would need to be in place to ensure it doesn’t hit low income people. But WITH climate change happening you get droughts (eg Afghanistan last year), floods (eg Pakistan this year) etc. Poor people suffer like this as well - Just in an uncontrolled way!
@WalkinBeauty278
@WalkinBeauty278 2 жыл бұрын
Would like to see a pie chart of the elements in our atmosphere posted more often...I think that many people don't realize how small co2 is
@gerardojaviergonzalezbrena5801
@gerardojaviergonzalezbrena5801 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but remember that a small % can have a big effect. For example CFC's which cause ozone whole are even smaller %. And spider poison in the blood is even smaller.
@Aliens-Are-Our-Friends2027
@Aliens-Are-Our-Friends2027 2 жыл бұрын
more co2 = more forests
@michaelyulkin3543
@michaelyulkin3543 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aliens-Are-Our-Friends2027 No, this is only true to some point. When the temperature rises above a certain level photosynthesis slows down and the trend for deforestation will prevail
@kruse8888
@kruse8888 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelyulkin3543 The scenario you describe is so far from reality that it is totally irrelevant to the debate. And if/when/if it ever happened, it would likely create rainforests like it did before(you know the rainforest we call “the lungs of the earth”😉)
@kruse8888
@kruse8888 2 жыл бұрын
And humans only contribute with about 4% of that amount😉
@subhenduc
@subhenduc 9 ай бұрын
This scientists is not presenting the whole story. Sorry miss-read, he is not a climate scientist. He is an economist. To learn the climate science, please refer to real scientist who does not ignore the climate change but does not believe in Climate scare or catastrophe. Please readjust your mind so that not to learn climate dynamics from Nobel winner Algor but consult real science. I don't have much confidence on many of the Nobel Laurettes. First learn the science properly. The data shown here are purposely limited and lack details.
@jthadcast
@jthadcast 2 жыл бұрын
what a giant load of bs, cooked books and faulty assumptions.
@vm4554
@vm4554 Жыл бұрын
Correct. Follow the money. CO2 follows the temperature, not the other way around.
@psikeyhackr6914
@psikeyhackr6914 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Planned Obsolescence mean unnecessary manufacturing? So that must result in more CO2. Where are climate scientists talking about Planned Obsolescence? The really annoying factor is that economists have to live on the planet with the rest of us. Economists don't have to do algebra and can ignore Demand Side Depreciation. What is NDP?
@Doctor_Subtilis
@Doctor_Subtilis 2 жыл бұрын
Degrowthers are the only ones who talk about planned obsolescence in a meaningful way
@Tyler-hf4uc
@Tyler-hf4uc 2 жыл бұрын
Economists are fantastic and have probably made your life much better than you'd be without it, but besides that, do you have any evidence of the degree that planned obsolescence (notice the proper grammar here as this phrase is not capitalized) actually contributes to more greenhouse gases? If not, then you're better off worrying about what we KNOW is contributing to large amounts of greenhouse gases.
@zenzelenzula7696
@zenzelenzula7696 2 жыл бұрын
This guy put me to sleep and I couldn't watch the rest of it. Did he say how a carbon tax would hit developing countries? How are deveping countries going to keep the lights on, or develop their economies&get their people out of poverty, if the rich western countries make it expensive for them to burn their coal and oil, as these are the only energy sources they have?
@user-db8kt8ti4c
@user-db8kt8ti4c 11 ай бұрын
Ugh... Mann is cited. Bad start to this lecture.
@badone3009
@badone3009 Жыл бұрын
Nobel laureate William Nordhaus can tell when and where the flying bird gonna drop its fickle matter. He sounds like Nostradamus. Must be related to the ancients, WTF why would we want to reduce carbon dioxide, everything thing on the earth is carbon-based.
@kruse8888
@kruse8888 2 жыл бұрын
Why don’t we just tell the sun that it can’t come any closer and tell the poles that they have to stop their natural cycle of exiting an ice age. I mean, if we can make the climate we should be able to stop it as well, right? Someone needs to make an app for it.
@DavidNorden
@DavidNorden 2 жыл бұрын
You forget that the bulk of climate change is due to our abusive use of petrochemicals !
@Aliens-Are-Our-Friends2027
@Aliens-Are-Our-Friends2027 2 жыл бұрын
speaker = low energy beta
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