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@adz3654
@adz3654 24 күн бұрын
I think the rise of Football Twitter played a huge part. post-2000 born Liverpool, Chelsea & even Man Utd fans have experienced their teams winning the league or the CL while Arsenal fans have never. I remember one person coining it as "they have the audacity of Real Madrid but are closer to Blackburn". I also think the rise of AFTV added a lot of fuel to the fire. It's often the go-to example when people point towards delusional Arsenal fans.
@banoffiman2211
@banoffiman2211 24 күн бұрын
As a liverpool fan born in 2004, I grew up and started watching Liverpool in 2011, I never got to see my team win much more than the Carling Cup. When klopp took over I was so greatful and hopeful. These arsenal fans on the other hand last season were claiming to be the best club in the world. The pure arrogance from most arsenal fans I have seen is unbelievable honestly. I'm sure most of them are normal, a very large portion of them are utterly the worst when it comes to biting your ear off
@ericlarson5398
@ericlarson5398 24 күн бұрын
It’s also the fans from my experience will talk poorly about almost every other teams and their players but when it comes back they get super defensive and resort to name calling or “InViNcIBle”
@YeTism
@YeTism 24 күн бұрын
“Audacity of Real Madrid but closer to Blackburn” spot on. 😂
@johnrockyryan
@johnrockyryan 24 күн бұрын
​@@banoffiman2211 oh yeah and the Scousers are all 100% rational, say what happened to the Liverpool fans with pfps of Darwin Nunez holding the Balon D'Or where's the agent of chaous now?, what happened to the booked tickets for the Europa League final in Dublin? and what happened to Klopps departure lighting a fire inside of the players that will inspire them to win the quadruple?
@rodolfo4457
@rodolfo4457 23 күн бұрын
@@johnrockyryan it’s hilarious how they claim they’re humble as well lol
@branaldinho
@branaldinho 24 күн бұрын
As a Liverpool fan I remember the amount of relentless brutal hate we got when we were the club trying to beat Man City. And now the same is happening to Arsenal. They don’t have a bad fanbase 99% of them are normal football fans who big shocker want their team to win trophies and say audacious things. Every fanbase has a fraction of toxic deluded fans
@mp14446
@mp14446 24 күн бұрын
As an Arsenal fan, its our fanbase which made everyone else mock us when we finished second. Our most deluded and annoying fans are also the loudest and they kind of "represent" our fanbase on the internet and when those "fans" say some strange things its expected that they are going to be laughed at and mocked. We (normal fans) then end up being a collateral victims of other clubs fanbases. But to be fair, its all just a huge banter, and Im fine with that. Its all part of football, we would probably mock other fanbases if they were in our position.
@visheshsonkar5786
@visheshsonkar5786 24 күн бұрын
Mate we respect guys like you but you’re right. But again you’re a very minority in terms of annoying arsenal fans.
@Nimsy0001
@Nimsy0001 24 күн бұрын
Every fan bases have people like that
@moldovananti-zionist6276
@moldovananti-zionist6276 24 күн бұрын
If you judge Arsenal for their fanbase, then you are stupid. Also people should learn to take deluded fans as a joke and not a label an entire fanbase after some bad apples. How can you get mad over some arsenal fan saying his opinion or being excited. And why do people get so emotionally invested in this game to the point of hating fanbases and clubs for no particular reason
@ousfraton435
@ousfraton435 24 күн бұрын
fully agree it’s the same w spurs fans on socials especially that invertthewing idiot on twitter. somehow one tweet from one of these idiots means “all fans of spurs really thought kulusevski is the best winger itl” or “arsenal fans really thought city would lose to west ham” cos one random on aftv said it
@samuelogunlere6589
@samuelogunlere6589 24 күн бұрын
​@@Nimsy0001Na arsenal owns is diff delusion
@AnomalyAFC
@AnomalyAFC 24 күн бұрын
The main problem is that you have poorly run social media channels such as AFTV that misrepresent the entire fanbase. Not only that but rival fans tend to always, and i mean ALWAYS, treat every single arsenal fan in the world as if they're the same as the delusional fans you see on AFTV or Lee Gunner for example.
@moldovananti-zionist6276
@moldovananti-zionist6276 24 күн бұрын
And what if he is deluded? He is a fan, that's important. Every fan is a little deluded. They hate Arsenal, because AFTV was the first to start this sort of channel and it's the most popular football fan channel of all, so of course there would be some crazy people, but that makes it interesting
@Sparkasm
@Sparkasm 24 күн бұрын
You booed Wenger and regularly booed in the stadium when things weren't going your way, match day going fans and twitter fans have acted NO DIFFERENTLY to social media personalities.
@John-gi8jg
@John-gi8jg 24 күн бұрын
Yeah but who is giving them a Platform? All the subscribers? If Arsenal fans support theit channel, then its normal that people think that they speak for Arsenal Fans.
@afccapetown2726
@afccapetown2726 24 күн бұрын
Pls, tell me what it is about AFTV Everyone keeps saying AFTV, then nothing underneath that. I'm a Gooner, I watch AFTV. I don't know what you guys are referring to everytime you write "AFTV"
@sasiruvirajith935
@sasiruvirajith935 24 күн бұрын
Tbf, many fans adapt in the manner of those channels mate. Slowly that makes the whole fanbase delusional
@andersb8625
@andersb8625 23 күн бұрын
I feel like a lot of it comes from the fact that Arsenal fans were the punching bag for other fans for many years, and now the other teams fans are terrified that years of bullying is gonna come back to bite them. I dont follow the premier league that much, but I find it strange that english fans sometimes seem more invested in hating other teams instead of just loving their own club...it must be exhausting.
@JJ-qd9yl
@JJ-qd9yl 23 күн бұрын
Right, I don’t engage with much football media as its mostly hate. Imagine people caring what other fans are saying about their club online
@LiamK-ep6fs
@LiamK-ep6fs 24 күн бұрын
As for Arsenal it’s the fans including AFTV why no one wanted Arsenal to win the league
@Lildanny527
@Lildanny527 24 күн бұрын
Most of the fan base are cocky asf , saying they gonna win the league 😬
@LiamK-ep6fs
@LiamK-ep6fs 24 күн бұрын
@@Lildanny527next season will be the same Man City wins the league Arsenal comes 2nd
@evransev
@evransev 24 күн бұрын
forgive me for wanting my club to be successful? like tf is the problem with wanting our team to win the league smh the bias against arsenal is massive
@BlackoutStarman
@BlackoutStarman 24 күн бұрын
Biggest example is a saw a post with a lot of likes talking about how good Odegaards assist was against Everton 😭
@raf2016
@raf2016 24 күн бұрын
As if every fanbase isn’t cocky lmao shut up
@thebhoyfromarsenal1653
@thebhoyfromarsenal1653 24 күн бұрын
People cling to stereotypes. Arsenal have languished in the last two decades as a shadow of their glory days in the early 2000s, we've been the "little bros" of the league for many years. The mind doesn't like it when perceptions are shattered, Arsenal breaking free of their mediocrity goes against what rival fans have been accustomed to for so long. So the fact they were so close this year is why the reaction from rival fans was so strong, they don't want the punch bag of the league to suddenly have fire power.
@jameswann3278
@jameswann3278 24 күн бұрын
It's so funny seeing gooners who will break their back to find a deep justification for hatred of Arsenal that isn't just "because they're so fucking annoying". It's because you're so fucking annoying! I don't care if Spurs, who have been a punching bag for decades, win the league. Or any others. You think you're an elite European club, when United, Liverpool, Chelsea, City, are all bigger clubs. You've never won the Champions League. You haven't won the league in 20 years. There's no subtext, Arsenal fans just have no self-awareness, and enough self-opinion to make the rest of the country cringe when you start every season confident you'll win the league.
@kwanlinus6999
@kwanlinus6999 24 күн бұрын
Remember: When you guys finished 8th in the league and Arsenal was as low as 15th in the league in 2019/20, 2020/21, all the Arsenal fanbase was calling for Arteta's head. If he was indeed sacked during that time, your club would remain a mid-table club today.
@a.m.s.c.
@a.m.s.c. 24 күн бұрын
​@@kwanlinus6999what's the context?
@christiandale2971
@christiandale2971 24 күн бұрын
​@@kwanlinus6999 Arsenal have extremely high expextations. You can't expect Arsenal fans in 2021 to predict the future. Of course they will call for the sack they were in 8th place
@paradise2586
@paradise2586 24 күн бұрын
@@kwanlinus6999 If my grandma had wheels, she'd be a bike. How is this at all relevant to what he said?
@FF-cg3cf
@FF-cg3cf 24 күн бұрын
When city win the league all rival clubs have an excuse, "they have more money", "115" ,"It's impossible to compete with" . But if Arsenal won they would actually have to face the reality that their club is run poorly and that is actually possible to compete with Man City on equal terms. The Arsenal hate is just a coping mechanism
@darpanbharadwaj8
@darpanbharadwaj8 24 күн бұрын
As an city fan that's actually a good opinion
@Sparkasm
@Sparkasm 24 күн бұрын
@@darpanbharadwaj8 Copium also of course you're not from the UK as a City Fan
@pavlikmorozovgaming468
@pavlikmorozovgaming468 24 күн бұрын
Well, still these criticisms are valid and city are cheaters
@Vizeh
@Vizeh 24 күн бұрын
There is some truth in fact that if City wins you got a good and cheap thing to point at for the reason for it
@darpanbharadwaj8
@darpanbharadwaj8 24 күн бұрын
@@pavlikmorozovgaming468 cry me a river mr online lawyer
@brolindres
@brolindres 23 күн бұрын
I remember people saying that Liverpool’s title win in 19/20 was terrible because they weren’t invincible and didn’t win a treble. People will complain about Man City dominating the league and yearn for a more competitive league but set ridiculous standards for anyone competing for a title
@Flaming-wings
@Flaming-wings 17 күн бұрын
Liverpool pl title should've never counted. Same with bayerns UCL, there was a pandemic which affected everyone. Plus add that with multiple leagues cancelling their season, pl should've followed route.
@joshuaarawole8589
@joshuaarawole8589 16 күн бұрын
@@Flaming-wings What a stupid comment. Liverpool won 26 and drew 1 from 27 games, prior to lockdown.
@Otis.Supremacy
@Otis.Supremacy 4 күн бұрын
@@joshuaarawole8589 They also lost to watford in february dat year genius
@DhaarunEkavarna
@DhaarunEkavarna 24 күн бұрын
arsenal finished the league with 89 points and only lost once in 2024 but they still were not able to win the league this just shows how stupendously good the city team is and even one lose is enough for city to win the league
@bhyproductions6990
@bhyproductions6990 23 күн бұрын
but i swear arsenal fans on twitter were mocking Liverpool for winning 1 league title when they got more points then arsenal and still finished one point behind city twice
@Do27gg
@Do27gg 23 күн бұрын
You’ll say this but if arsenal drop off and Liverpool come second to city again you will be the first to mock us
@a.demifemiflapo5795
@a.demifemiflapo5795 23 күн бұрын
​@@bhyproductions6990And those supposed "fans" represent all Arsenal fans? Generalize much?
@LP_digital
@LP_digital 22 күн бұрын
​@@a.demifemiflapo5795 He's not saying that, he's pointing out that you like most have dumb fans. Klopp is constantly slandered for only winning 1 prem in his tenure, i get it from arsenal and united fans i know but I'm yet to see either of them do it in the city era. I also expected arsenal fans i know to take it back after failing twice but no, they still label klopp a failure and diminish his achievements.
@johnrockyryan
@johnrockyryan 22 күн бұрын
​@@LP_digital WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!?!? I and many Arsenal fans respect Klopp for what he did in 2019/20 and alot feel for him after falling short ourselves
@denzilsafo
@denzilsafo 24 күн бұрын
Great video man! As Arsenal fan - I think because AFTV is the biggest platform for Gooners, ALL Arsenal fans are generalised and fans of other clubs assume we're ALL like Cecil (printing t-shirts of us being top of the league at Christmas) 😂 I do think we'll be in the title race again, but think Pep wins it until he leaves the Premier League. I just don't agree with wanting another team to LOSE more than wanting your own team to WIN in the bigger picture.
@Vizeh
@Vizeh 24 күн бұрын
Would love to see you win it soon!
@kwanlinus6999
@kwanlinus6999 24 күн бұрын
It doesn't help the AFTV socials attract the most delusional Arsenal fans
@zacharyzwigart4455
@zacharyzwigart4455 24 күн бұрын
I guess that is what confuses me. I been a fan of Arsenal last 3 years here in the US and never interacted with AFTV. So all I see on KZfaq is that Arsenal gets put down by like half of the football community and I wonder why lol.
@kwanlinus6999
@kwanlinus6999 24 күн бұрын
@@zacharyzwigart4455 Hate to say, but the American footy fanbase has always been relatively sanitized from the most toxic sentiments present in Europe
@meamenoshilongo6803
@meamenoshilongo6803 23 күн бұрын
I love how people on AFTV are getting shit for being too positive or too negative depending on who you speak to. Everyone has their little reasons to scapegoat the channel. In the same comment section even. People just take an opinion or fancam from any specific member of AFTV or a random fan outside the stadium and use that opinion to judge everyone else who appears on there. Tunnel vision is real. And the Cecil shirt thing was embarrassing but that’s not something to use against them. Football fandom is supposed to be fun.
@arsenalfan1515
@arsenalfan1515 24 күн бұрын
I had no idea why people hate arsenal so much... I grew up in North London during Arsenal's invincibles and Thierry Henry was my favourite player but I just loved the club because we excelled at the time, it was where I lived but its been a struggle ever since.. It was not until I got older and I had something to root for with Arsenal the last few years that I realized how much people hated us and I have no idea why... we have not achieved that much, we haven't been a serious challenger for god knows how long and I used to chalk it up as playful banter but they genuinely hate us and that just shows me we are doing something to be envious about. Now that were doing well and people still trying to banter us like were not playing better than every team not named Man City, its straight up delusional and I question if you even enjoy good football. Yeah we haven't won trophies, we know that, Yeah we have some insufferable fans, every club does but we've built a squad without cheating, shown nothing but integrity, we play good football, were a cohesive young team, what's not to like? I respect the likes of Liverpool so much for building a team with integrity and challenging a cheating goliath in our league. I have not seen them get the hate we've received.
@ultimatedumbass4640
@ultimatedumbass4640 23 күн бұрын
It's because your fanbase is the loudest and most cancerous even if there are a lot of genuinely good fans. That's literally the only reason.
@Angus-bn2ob
@Angus-bn2ob 23 күн бұрын
I am a West Ham fan and as such, had nothing to celebrate either. But as a neutral, who didn't really care who much about who would win the league, I will weigh in on this discussion. I feel like the reason Arsenal is hated is because the deluded and insufferable behaviour some of your fans exhibit, in my opinion is the most notable and infamous of all delusional fan behaviour in the premier league. With AFTV being the most popular Arsenal fan outlet, they indirectly represent the fanbase of the club it certainly tarnishes the reputation of Arsenal fans, inaccurately depicting them all as dickheads, when we all know the majority of them are sound. To be honest, it is an absolute shame. Love them or hate them, Arsenal are a great club and have given us football fans many great players and teams to watch in their time. I will say now, it would have been nice to see another club win the league for once. I am also glad you blokes are looking after Declan Rice too.
@columodonnell9212
@columodonnell9212 23 күн бұрын
​@@Angus-bn2obPretty much only Ty is delusional on AFTV. The rest are quite reasonable in their support for their team.
@MasterIceyy
@MasterIceyy 22 күн бұрын
@@Angus-bn2ob the Arsenal subreddits are insane, after 3 weeks into the season I saw fans saying that Rice was better than Rodri. I've seen some saying Odegaard is better than Bruno Fernandes. They were proclaiming most of their players as "world class" people comparing Saliba to Ferdinand, Van Dijk and Vidic. Plus Martinelli is a top tier cunt. They kept bragging about being top scorers in the league, and any criticism is met with a victim mentality where they act like everyone is out to get them, when some of it has been valid. Liverpool fans despite being one of the best teams in the world for 3 seasons, were never like that, they were happy to be along for the ride, after being so mediocre for so long, and Liverpool actually earned the right to brag, because they actually won stuff, but their fanbase was still reasonable and humble, but the Arsenal fans are the exact opposite, they seem to think they're Gods gift to football for being 2nd
@SeriousBartYT
@SeriousBartYT 13 күн бұрын
​@@Angus-bn2ob Great to a mature lion fan here.
@Marcomanexists
@Marcomanexists 24 күн бұрын
Nobody has ever liked us. I’m over it at this point. Idky rival fans think we want to be liked by them, we don’t. I love my club and that’s all that matters. Arsenal till the day I drop dead ❤️
@Muta123
@Muta123 24 күн бұрын
Yeah I guess it is fair enough but when your fanbase gets too cocky and your team falls off you should expect to get picked on
@ribspice1238
@ribspice1238 24 күн бұрын
Yeah we keep hating cause you winge for months on end when you lose or a decision doesn’t go in your way, eg when you lost to Newcastle 1-0. You lot cried for months on end over that VAR decision but you’re fine whenever it goes in your way 😂 Also the entitlement of your fans 💀
@Marcomanexists
@Marcomanexists 24 күн бұрын
@@Muta123 Yeah that’s par for the course. I’m fine with people trolling us, that’s football. For me I don’t pay attention to anyone else’s fan base. I’m not whining about how United or City fans act. It’s Arsenal for me and that’s it.
@shhhss6993
@shhhss6993 24 күн бұрын
Then stfu, stop replying to others comment about your shit club ​@@Marcomanexists
@s717w
@s717w 24 күн бұрын
Farteta 700mil spent, 1 trophy 😂🫵
@patriotbd5735
@patriotbd5735 23 күн бұрын
Let me remind u, this four-peat happening is all down to Pep, no manager would've won after losing key players every year. Only 5-6 players of 2017-18 are now here. Pep won the league with most dominant side ever with 100 points, false 9, no strikers, inverted fullbacks, best goalscoring striker in history of football. He won all battles and wars, he even won one of the most intense and nerve-wracking title race ever. He lost Yaya, Zabaleta, D. Silva, Gundogan, Kompany, Otamendi, Laporte, Mahrez, Aguero, Jesus, Zinchenko, Fernandinho, Cancelo, Sterling, Sane, and many more. Yes, he had the backing and replaced them, but even if he didn't get he found ways to win the league. This is all on him. Once Pep goes, it will be normal again, 4 different winners in 10yrs but not the same club winning 7 out of those 10
@AMZTJ
@AMZTJ 24 күн бұрын
The fact arsenal got twice in a row, kinda shows that arsenal can win the league, but they just can’t, interesting video topic and I’m intrigued by it 😊
@Vizeh
@Vizeh 24 күн бұрын
They’ll be back!
@cantthinkofagooduser4165
@cantthinkofagooduser4165 24 күн бұрын
​@@Vizeh💀💀ur taking the piss
@karlhorrigan8201
@karlhorrigan8201 24 күн бұрын
​@@cantthinkofagooduser4165 2 in a row over 20 years ago. When it was manure & arsenal battling for good few years 🙈
@davidmoh175
@davidmoh175 24 күн бұрын
​@@cantthinkofagooduser4165I'm guessing in your top 4 prediction this season you said "Last season was Arsenal's chance, they're not coming back"
@tinypardus
@tinypardus 24 күн бұрын
@@karlhorrigan8201 we came second in 04/05 and 15/16 if your point was us only finishing second twice over 20 years
@fardinalam4818
@fardinalam4818 24 күн бұрын
As an arsenal fan I gave up the league in my mind after villa. It was amusing to see TL banter us though as if they wouldn’t love to see their club in a similar position despite the pain. We were finishing 8th back to back and now we’re challenging back to back, it’s definitely progress to be proud about and any club’s fan base would be proud about trophies or not.
@cantthinkofagooduser4165
@cantthinkofagooduser4165 24 күн бұрын
Trophyless
@karlhorrigan8201
@karlhorrigan8201 24 күн бұрын
Didn't know arsenal finished 8th back 2 back 🙈😂 playing well & some decent footie at times 👍🏼
@ousfraton435
@ousfraton435 24 күн бұрын
as a spurs fan i’d fully agree. it was the same from 15-17 when we were actually good and everyone just teamed up to hate us cos our fans got too arrogant. same happening with arsenal now but don’t blame u lot for being happy with last 2 years you’ve seen great football and great results people saying u can’t be happy w ur team without a trophy are brainless
@dharrman9107
@dharrman9107 24 күн бұрын
They do know the big trophy is coming and they need to get the most banter they can get until we do eventually win the title but until then we have to deal with it
@johnrockyryan
@johnrockyryan 24 күн бұрын
​@@cantthinkofagooduser4165 great argument there mate
@FCRaiders21
@FCRaiders21 22 күн бұрын
I'm an Arsenal fan, I know of the prime reasons why people don't want to see us succeed it's because most of the other big 6 clubs see us as the "banter" club from the 2000s and how can THAT BANTER CLUB be successful while their "non-banter" clubs who have been unsuccessful in the later years fall behind. This is key from Man Utd fans, United fans don't want to see us win after Arsene because they refuse to believe that a club can let go of their icon manager and be successful so fast. It's my key reason, they will go out and turn arguments around to make it seem finishing 2nd with 1 defeat in 2024 as "bottling" meanwhile, United fans (looking at you Rio) call winning the FA Cup and finishing 3rd as a success bigger than almost winning the league. It's a strange argument that Football Twitter has exploded to unreal levels; I still think Arsenal are a little bit behind due to the lack of squad depth, it shows levels that the only thing they can call out a quality homegrown ENGLISH star in Bukayo Saka is "the limp" even making up arguments where he hasn't proven it in "big games" when he's our best performer in big 6 games.
@baofc2609
@baofc2609 24 күн бұрын
"It's fine that people hate us. It's part of our history."-George Graham We're the scapegoat
@TerminatorCFC
@TerminatorCFC 24 күн бұрын
people hate u cause of ur delusional and cocky fanbase thats literally the only reason
@void0350
@void0350 23 күн бұрын
yep, they didnt like we are an ethical club. They didnt like when we had foreigners, they didnt lik it when we got a FRENCH manger, they didnt like we fielded 11 non english players, they didnt like that our team was full of black players. Its actually sad.
@bored_grape
@bored_grape 23 күн бұрын
Lmao keep fooling urself. People dislike ur club bcuz of ur clown fanbase.
@hannthenan
@hannthenan 23 күн бұрын
Oh please
@mrman2415
@mrman2415 23 күн бұрын
​@@void0350 Cope
@BDB_721
@BDB_721 24 күн бұрын
Every arsenal fan came to terms that were finishing 2nd like 2months ago. Next season tho? Yeah full delusion
@Vizeh
@Vizeh 24 күн бұрын
Absolutely!
@NexyOJF
@NexyOJF 24 күн бұрын
And they said if they beat city they would win, and look what happened this season 😂
@sukaira6465
@sukaira6465 24 күн бұрын
So you don’t think Arsenal will be competing for the title next season?
@BDB_721
@BDB_721 24 күн бұрын
@@sukaira6465 no we’d be competing, but city will do the same thing they did last season
@BDB_721
@BDB_721 24 күн бұрын
@@NexyOJF is that not fair to say? In the position we where in, sure the title “wasn’t in our hands”, but getting 4/6 points against city, it’s not ridiculous for us to think we can win the league. We didn’t by 2 points, and that was due to a stupid game against Villa.
@ashooaway
@ashooaway 24 күн бұрын
Arsenal's uninterrupted top-flight streak since 1919-20 might be a key reason why some football fans subconsciously root against them winning the Premier League. With only 13 people in the UK alive today who have a chance of recalling Arsenal not in the top flight, given that memories typically start forming around age 2.5, their long-standing presence breeds a perception of enduring privilege and stability. This contrasts with clubs like Manchester City, whose modern rise has an underdog narrative, or Liverpool, whose passionate fanbase and historical struggles invoke a sense of romanticism. Arsenal's consistency can seem less exciting or relatable, making fans more inclined to support teams with more dramatic stories of triumph and adversity.
@Vizeh
@Vizeh 24 күн бұрын
I think many people that’s speaking on Arsenal now have vague or no memory to Football 20-30 years ago when speaking on modern day
@kwanlinus6999
@kwanlinus6999 24 күн бұрын
I doubt your statement, only 3 or 4 seasons ago, Arsenal was fighting relegation
@kjbzabrini768
@kjbzabrini768 24 күн бұрын
​@@kwanlinus6999it's statements like yours that make me think that this hatred is just a big funny joke lmao, fighting relegation? I'm not even an Arsenal fan and I know that you're reaching for no real reason other than to hate,what did that club do to you people?😂😂
@willisassounga1963
@willisassounga1963 24 күн бұрын
@@kjbzabrini768fr, fighting for relegation is a hilarious claim to make man, idk who he's tring to gaslight
@kwanlinus6999
@kwanlinus6999 24 күн бұрын
@@kjbzabrini768 you must've never watched Lockdown Arsenal. Many Arsenal fans were literally grateful they finished 8th that season. The fact that they lost to Aston Villa (before they were good), Wolves, Burnley, Spurs and go on a 8 game winless streak, that's relegation form there.
@AR-vq3en
@AR-vq3en 24 күн бұрын
Arsenal is like that one kid that had a massive glow up after school and people get jealous of them for being better looking than them, idk understand how they can banter arsenal when they’ve only lost 1 game in the league since the start of they year
@Sharkbite650
@Sharkbite650 23 күн бұрын
That's a really bad comparison since they were always a decorated team historically speaking. Arsenal is more like that popular kid with a huge ego that hit their prime at high school.
@AR-vq3en
@AR-vq3en 23 күн бұрын
@@Sharkbite650 fair enough I should’ve clarified I meant over the past 10 years, but still every fan base has shitty fans just know most arsenal fans hate AFTV and as one myself I was disgusted how they treated wenger but as I said all teams have shitty fans
@Sharkbite650
@Sharkbite650 23 күн бұрын
@@AR-vq3en I agree, City and Man U fans can be quite insufferable sometimes. Especially since most Man City fans are bandwagons
@void0350
@void0350 23 күн бұрын
@@Sharkbite650 for you its ego for us its being proud of the ethics of our club. We fielded 11 non englishman and got stick, we hired an frenchman as manger we got stick, we fielded mostly black player and got stick. We try to ply beautiful football, our motto is literally Victory thrtough harmony, we are working class with class but yeah we deserve all the hate because we are proud of our clubs morals and ethics.
@Sharkbite650
@Sharkbite650 23 күн бұрын
@@void0350 Listen mate you've clearly watched football longer than me. I'm very thankful you brought up those things. That being said, you shouldn't just assume all Arsenal fans are like you. Times have changed and most Arsenal supporters are probably too young to know what you're even talking about.
@Thats-Akumetsu
@Thats-Akumetsu 24 күн бұрын
My mane gripe with Arsenal as a Barcelona fan is that of my dislike of AFTV. I have arsenal friends who are sound. But AFTV is just something else
@Vizeh
@Vizeh 24 күн бұрын
That’s ok, I feel like AFTV is much better now though
@ifactmachine
@ifactmachine 24 күн бұрын
Every Arsenal fan hates aftv too so it's not a fair representation
@spookyprani
@spookyprani 24 күн бұрын
​@@Vizeh I think so too. AFTV have got rid of all the crazy banter worthy people. Its more like any other fan channel now. Most importantly Arsenal as a club has itself distanced themselves from AFTV. So talking about some AFTV videos from 2017 is not a good enough reason for people to hate on arsenal.
@kwanlinus6999
@kwanlinus6999 24 күн бұрын
@@Vizeh nah it's not. Their social media, especially Twitter, is still a cesspool today
@BlackThoughtTheOverLord
@BlackThoughtTheOverLord 24 күн бұрын
But AFTV doesn't represent all Arsenal fans. You can paint all Arsenal fans under one brush
@conormoore1168
@conormoore1168 24 күн бұрын
Someone with a football brain, great video brother !
@alasdairburnett-hall9037
@alasdairburnett-hall9037 23 күн бұрын
What I really hate is that other fans refer to the Arsenal fan base that is on social media rather than the actual part of the fan base that isn’t anywhere near as bad, also every single big team has those fans who are delusional and believe that they have the best team in the world.
@666oal
@666oal 23 күн бұрын
"It’s fine that people hate us, it’s part of our history” - George Graham I came in already knowing no one will give us our flowers even if we win the league. No one likes us, simply cause they wish it was their team that could detrone City. I dnt feel any of the fans are any worse than Chelsea Fans or UTD Fans, AFTV sure added fuel to the fire but they werent the only fanbase to have something like this, UTD Stand exist and Rory Jennings was also there for Chelsea. Personally i boil it to envy.
@musician4776
@musician4776 23 күн бұрын
I think it’s because the fans are genuinely unhinged. They either think the team needs destroying with fire or they’re better than any team that has existed, there is no in between, just silliness.
@Flaming-wings
@Flaming-wings 17 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 You either get you info from AFTV or you're one of those Twitter weirdos if you honestly think that way.
@mysticfellow9843
@mysticfellow9843 17 күн бұрын
The Different Knock is the only Arsenal fan channel that I can trust. The dude offers great perspectives updates and insights into how Arsenal can improve. I highly recommend it to people who are tired of AFTV or other reactionary Arsenal channels.
@ocean9131
@ocean9131 24 күн бұрын
What lost us the league was the losses to West Ham and Fulham at Christmas. At the end of the day, losing to villa is honorable, but losing to Fulham doesn’t help to win the league. Next season with a striker that actually can finish we’ll maybe have a chance
@harrybean6693
@harrybean6693 21 күн бұрын
Literally was that Christmas run that derailed us ! Arsenal) i already accepted we’d finish 3rd because of how dangerous Liverpool looked at the time as well, any sensible fan knew city would always bound to go rampant for the back half of the season!
@ocean9131
@ocean9131 21 күн бұрын
@@harrybean6693 it’s funny how we went rampant as well, 5 points dropped since jan including 2 away to city and nobody talks abt our run
@harrybean6693
@harrybean6693 21 күн бұрын
@@ocean9131 it was an incredible run! Unfortunately where the cocky fans start giving it and it don’t go our way, it discredits what the team has achieved and they want to dish it back out to us because those cocky fans jumped the gun and didn’t think of a scenario where we can have a crazy run & fall short due to fine margins from earlier on in the year especially against Pep’s city
@marshallmyers8455
@marshallmyers8455 24 күн бұрын
“They hate us cause they ain’t us” -Dave Skylark
@johnrockyryan
@johnrockyryan 24 күн бұрын
"These ninjas is jealous cause deep in there heart they wanna be me" - Tupac Shakur
@sasiruvirajith935
@sasiruvirajith935 24 күн бұрын
Mate, at this point, not even Jesus Christ wanna be in the position of Arsenal 😂😂
@cola4249
@cola4249 23 күн бұрын
"Exactly, haito us cuz they ain'to us" -fatman
@mrman2415
@mrman2415 23 күн бұрын
0 titles in 20 years and no champions leagues. You're just red spurs.
@void0350
@void0350 23 күн бұрын
@@mrman2415 5 FA Cups but what would a yankee know about Football...
@BlackThoughtTheOverLord
@BlackThoughtTheOverLord 23 күн бұрын
The fact of the matter is every Arsenal fan knows that sheer hatred for the club is real. I have read all the comments and the single reason why everyone hates us (according to comments) is AFTV. I read one comment that literally assumed that AFTV represents all Arsenal fans. As an Arsenal for 30 years and someone who has gone to a number of games, categorically confirm that AFTV doesn't represent the fan base and number of fans hates the channel. I read one comment accusing the fan base of hounding out Wenger, when every Arsenal fan knows the media played a massive part in creating such a narrative regarding getting rid of Wenger (The Mirror and The Sun had journalist's calling for Wenger to leave. Paddy Power even had poll booth on a match day outside the Emirates for 'Wenger In' or 'Wenger Out'). I could understand the hatred if we were winning the league year in year out, or had a wealthy benefactor who through financial doping bought our success, or even if we had strong ties to National Front group like Combat 18. But the fact we don't.
@DennyTopG
@DennyTopG 23 күн бұрын
Been a fan since I got to watch my first match on TV in '02 with Wenger ball. It is so sad to see the bunch of, for lack of other words, stupid idiots that run our big media accounts 'representing' all of us. Of course those attention-seeking media darlings are in everyone's minds, they don't do it for the love of their club, they're a business.
@Johndoe-gf7eu
@Johndoe-gf7eu 23 күн бұрын
United are hated wayyyyy more tho lets be real
@BlackThoughtTheOverLord
@BlackThoughtTheOverLord 23 күн бұрын
@Johndoe-gf7eu I am going to slightly disagree and I will try explain my point clearly. When United were dominating under Sir Alex Ferguson, sure they were hated but there was always still a respect. When we won a couple of titles under Wenger, the respect shown towards us winning was a begrudging respect (in that we recognised for winning the title but were still hated). Let me try and put it in another way. Sir Alex was a media darling, for xenophobic media he was one of their own (British). Wenger was a French man (Johnny Foreigner), who when the slow decline started happening (partly due to our move to the Emirates and the finances to buy players at the beginning became difficult) the media were frothing at the mouth to take pot shots and played a significant role in the whole 'Wenger In' or 'Wenger Out' debate. Will forget (nor forgive) those arsehole journalists at The Mirror and The Sun for adding fuel to the fire and assisting with tensions with our fan base. I personally feel its because of that discourse AFTV was able to thrive under those conditions. As a consequence we are still hated, hence every rival fan (and outlets like ESPN FC and the English Admin of Bayern Leverkuesen Twitter account) took such glee in mocking us.
@harrybean6693
@harrybean6693 21 күн бұрын
@@BlackThoughtTheOverLord spot on mate can vividly remember every summer from 07-13 in the scummy sun every time a player left stating ‘crisis’ with the badge split in the middle until we signed Ozil, after that point I stopped giving a fuck what they printed out about Wenger because I sensed the agenda against him!
@Flaming-wings
@Flaming-wings 17 күн бұрын
​​@@Johndoe-gf7euunited are hates way more stfu You guys have the most fans, TF u smoking For every arsenal or Chelsea fan there's at least 10 united fans.
@MrEujoo
@MrEujoo 23 күн бұрын
I dont think the premier is a competitive league but that its a really hard league cause you have 3/4 teams with unlimited badge that can just smash talent together and call it a day while the rest has to do with that they have
@maextsai
@maextsai 23 күн бұрын
i personally think that arsenals revival happened quite suddenly and rival fans from teams like liverpool, chelsea, and united haven't fully processed arsenal being in a better place than their own clubs, hence the hate.
@hazbobaggins
@hazbobaggins 23 күн бұрын
The premier league being a "competitive league" is interesting; I believe it's 2 seperate "competitive leagues" at the moment, with Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs, both Manchester teams, Newcastle, and Villa being their own super league. Then the rest of the teams are their own "best of the rest" competitive league trying to stay up. So collectively, no the Premier League is not a competitive league, but if you think about it as two seperate mini leagues, yeah it's competitive in that sense. In my opinion at least
@Tiffany_Waiting
@Tiffany_Waiting 24 күн бұрын
they mock arsenal because they’d kill to be in our position. also hating arsenal is nothing new as george graham used to say that it’s our history to be hated by everyone.
@gerryz8216
@gerryz8216 24 күн бұрын
What supporter of a big team would “kill” to be them? They’ve won fuck all yes they have a strong team but people are not jealous of bottling the league 2 seasons in a row. When Liverpool was on 97 points and didn’t win the league everyone laughed as well stop playing the victim as always.
@Maxmorris12
@Maxmorris12 24 күн бұрын
@@gerryz8216you are missing the point
@danielbwest
@danielbwest 23 күн бұрын
​@@gerryz8216 losers like you would kill to challenge year in year out
@cola4249
@cola4249 23 күн бұрын
​@@gerryz8216be reasonable and explain how we "bottled" it this season.
@sacropotam6050
@sacropotam6050 23 күн бұрын
What's up with this comment? Arsenal fans have officially lost their minds.
@Ryotbh
@Ryotbh 23 күн бұрын
Have you met the average Arsenal fan? The director of the company I work for is a season ticket holder. He was celebrating like he had won the league most of the season.
@musician4776
@musician4776 23 күн бұрын
This is all Arsenal fans I’ve ever known. It’s either the end of the world or they’re amazing, nothing in between.
@chinesestreetdogxiaogou8478
@chinesestreetdogxiaogou8478 23 күн бұрын
It's wrong to celebrate for winning right now huh? Other fans can celebrate all they want but not the same case for Arsenal because the way we celebrate is annoying? Come on...... Get a much more solid reason why rival fans hate us and why we should not celebrate because our favourite team is winning a game.
@chinesestreetdogxiaogou8478
@chinesestreetdogxiaogou8478 23 күн бұрын
I mean of course, hate all the insufferable fans but you cannot stand us celebrating because we won a game? oh my god my guy you expect us to what? cry like new born babies? That shit is way too absurd and nonsense to use as an argument.
@thegoodgunner
@thegoodgunner 22 күн бұрын
@@musician4776 and arsenal has been "amazing" last 2 season ,its just city has been even better (any season before the Pep era this arsenal team would have won the league) ,but before that we have been dreadfull for 20 years Arteta celebrating a goal or win its bad but Klopp running the entire pitch is passion
@Flaming-wings
@Flaming-wings 17 күн бұрын
God forbid someone being happy that their team is winning.
@SCP-457-
@SCP-457- 24 күн бұрын
People just wants to hate, mock for fun but deep down they know that for the best of the league, there have to be a different winner
@cantthinkofagooduser4165
@cantthinkofagooduser4165 24 күн бұрын
Yep just not arsenal
@princetbz1102
@princetbz1102 24 күн бұрын
@@cantthinkofagooduser4165 who then? loserpool? Mark Duggan's bottleham mandem? aston martin? the super-midtable-bros? Only Arsenal, the chosen one can do it and with the power of friendship we will do all it takes to stop pap granola and his 115 minions. The ultimate climax between the student and the master, to save the mighty lion from becoming a farmers league, and to bring an end to Man Centimetre once and for all? Eras come to an End, in cinemas August 17
@cyn1clcynide
@cyn1clcynide 24 күн бұрын
​@@princetbz1102there's a fine line between delusion and satire. Seems like you can't actually tell one from the other
@aaronmed28
@aaronmed28 24 күн бұрын
​@@cyn1clcynideyou just wrote a comment about yourself 😂😂😂
@dragaser8342
@dragaser8342 23 күн бұрын
@@princetbz1102You forget how Arsenal will have to face their greatest rivals Tottenham to beat mancester witty to the plumber league title
@jmy871
@jmy871 24 күн бұрын
As an Arsenal fan I kinda like the fact that we are the most hated because it makes me want to love my club even more
@tiestofalljays
@tiestofalljays 24 күн бұрын
It’s their fans. Online, they are somehow more insufferable than everyone else.
@Samohsa
@Samohsa 23 күн бұрын
I feel like social media (notably twitter) had such a massive part in this. As a Villa fan, the days before the Arsenal-Villa game I saw so many toxic social media accounts posting shit about Emery and Dibu (idk about other clubs). Those accounts tend to do better than the genuine Arsenal accounts that don't do the trash talking. If you look at social media and all you see is a bunch of Arsenal fans insulting your club, your players ofc you won't like Arsenal. It also doesn't help how much they went on last season about winning the league just to drop off at the end.
@nonder92
@nonder92 22 күн бұрын
I have a different experience with arsenal supporters here in the states. They are bearable here because most of us started following in the early 2000’s and stuck with them ever since lol
@VedanshK
@VedanshK 23 күн бұрын
There comes a point when football banter ends and hate starts...... What people say about arsenal isnt even banter anymore
@qwertymehta8342
@qwertymehta8342 22 күн бұрын
It's just football ffs you talk about this as if people are murdering arsenal fans on sight lmao. Talking bout 'hate'
@VedanshK
@VedanshK 22 күн бұрын
@@qwertymehta8342 Hate doesn't just mean murder on sight,
@DavidDavis-ti4qc
@DavidDavis-ti4qc 17 күн бұрын
@@VedanshKbro it’s a fucking game 🤣🤣🤣. Don’t get to attached . Much bigger problems in life then a game of football
@VedanshK
@VedanshK 17 күн бұрын
@@DavidDavis-ti4qc Yeah I know that.....😐 Is that even related to whatever my comment was
@coysgub5599
@coysgub5599 24 күн бұрын
For me it's the stick Arsenal fans gave us (spurs fans) for being proud of our team for finishing 2nd and 3rd in the premier league and getting to a champions league final. "put the pressure on" trophy was their favourite line. So the fact that their fans are really (rightly) proud of their team the last few seasons for playing great football and being on the edge of winning trophies, without actually winning one, is so deliciously ironic to me.
@Zero-ed3fx
@Zero-ed3fx 24 күн бұрын
But we have won trophies,so that point dosnt stand
@patrickbateman882
@patrickbateman882 24 күн бұрын
You could've just said you're a Spurs fan instead of typing so many words 🤣
@coysgub5599
@coysgub5599 24 күн бұрын
@@patrickbateman882 yeah fair, but he asked for the specific reason, so there it is
@coysgub5599
@coysgub5599 24 күн бұрын
@@Zero-ed3fx not over the last two seasons, but you’re proud of your team anyways, which is exactly my point. because technically we have won things in the past too, I don’t think it really changes the logic because it was much longer ago.
@tinypardus
@tinypardus 24 күн бұрын
eh it'd be weird for us not to make fun of you, and for you not to make fun of us, no matter how little sense it makes. That's just how football rivalries are.
@godlovesyou1995
@godlovesyou1995 22 күн бұрын
Araenal fans always seem quite goodhearted to me. Its not delusion, it intentional optimism.
@Alphoric
@Alphoric 23 күн бұрын
Even though the points may differ drastically the games themselves tell a different story with the tiniest of margins usually being the difference like scoring 2 or 3 in the last moments of a match like with a few of Man City’s last matches or a great showing from a keeper or so many other random things. There’s so many decisive moments and that’s why it’s the most competitive league You can look at the league and think it’s not competitive but if you watch it over a season you know it is
@Vinga839
@Vinga839 23 күн бұрын
Arsenal is so overhated because our damn fanbase but we did not bottle anything
@emzon4714
@emzon4714 24 күн бұрын
If you know an Arsenal fan IRL you’d know we have good ballknowledge and are not deluded like many creators try to frame us to be. I think I speak for every Arsenal fan when I say I fell in love with the way we played, not because of prior succes.
@simba3610
@simba3610 24 күн бұрын
Maybe not every Arsenal fan but just about every long time one for sure
@negrodamus67
@negrodamus67 23 күн бұрын
I have 3 Arsenal fans as friends, 2 are extremely deluded and loves to self-pity. They talk a lot of ish when they're on top and find a lot excuses when they lose.
@artmichael5270
@artmichael5270 23 күн бұрын
Exactly. I fell in love with the football, not the trophies. That's why during the banter era, I was absolutely miserable, not because we weren't winning trophies (we won a lot of FA Cups) but because we played like sh*t. And that's why right now I'm over the moon because even though we're not winning trophies, we play such beautiful football, it gives Peter Drury poetic inspiration. Most of us REAL Gooners are football fans, not glory hunters.
@emzon4714
@emzon4714 23 күн бұрын
@@artmichael5270 you dropped this 👑
@kidinthestudio9732
@kidinthestudio9732 23 күн бұрын
'Sticking with their guns'. Arsenal Video. Good one Liam.
@patrik3450
@patrik3450 23 күн бұрын
I was an Arsenal fan. 2011-2013 was just to heartbreaking. I had enough. Also the fucking toxic fan base made me stop following. Liverpool and United are more toxic but still Arsenal is bad too. However other fans club not caring about city winning shows how bad it is.
@MonkeeMannn
@MonkeeMannn 24 күн бұрын
I think it's mainly in this online sphere where everyone has a mental age of about five that people hate Arsenal. There's no real reason to hate Arsenal as a club, sure AFTV and similar are cringe, but every club has a group of fans like that. When Liverpool challenged City they weren't hated like Arsenal are now, despite both clubs being comparable in how they are run. It's a very odd thing to have happened, but it has created a kind of siege mentality among the club and fans as well.
@foy5051
@foy5051 24 күн бұрын
I would have preferred Arsenal winning over Man City, and I'm a Liverpool fan
@tinypardus
@tinypardus 24 күн бұрын
I supported Liverpool in the title race as an Arsenal fan all the years you were in that as well (aside from this season obviously, but if you were in the same situation we were in at the end I would've much preferred you over City)
@aldomeylano9278
@aldomeylano9278 23 күн бұрын
I guess its not only the fans that tons of people deemed insufferable (Didnt help AFTV stained that perception), but I also think its the Invincibles trophy and I also assume that a lot of Irish people didn't like Arsenal as well considering the 2010 World Cup Qualification incident and of course, Declan Rice (Even if I like the two players out of three). That's my assumption why people dislike us
@ivansmith3718
@ivansmith3718 24 күн бұрын
what I don't get with everyone else is that rival fans will use that run of 1 win in 10 for us (at 5:39) as an excuse to say 'Arsenal backed Arteta, we should back our boss'. That suggests that Arsenal are now very good & that Arteta is a very good manager. But the moment we slip up everyone gangs in to call us & Arteta shit.
@patriotbd5735
@patriotbd5735 23 күн бұрын
If City's dominance is bad for league, where was this energy when Fergie was in charge? Fergie was 2 points away from winning 9 in a row!!! Wasnt that bad for the league? People just hate it bcz the red cartel clubs arent at the driving seat anymore, they just hate when its not the red jersey clubs
@clapping721
@clapping721 22 күн бұрын
I think its because people look at arsenal and see the fans shown on tiktok and aftv which are die hard fans that are very bias and get called deluded which make for great content but give a bad stick. Because any arsenal fan show passion and say were gonna win the leauge people think of these fans and shut us down make fun and then call us "deluded" and to some of the stuff shown aint even "outrageous stuff" like saka over foden (not that outrageous). Another is people still go on about the "past" with obviously not winning the prem in over 20 years and mainly 2020 horrible season where we would make fun off and it was a painful PAINFUL time and now were out the mud and people seem to not accept that also if man city win its a mechanism of coping saying we lost the prem or oh the cheating oil money clubs but Arsenal if they win they lost to a side that looked like a bunch of twats just 3-4 years ago.
@mrramtastic7757
@mrramtastic7757 23 күн бұрын
Derby fan - I think its because many of the 'Big clubs' have ruled for so long they became a little too egotistical getting carried away with the formation of the premier league and thinking themselves as superior (likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, Utd, Arsenal) and deserved to be the ones at the top end of the league every year by almost a divine right. forgetting the years pre-premier League when teams like Villa, Sunderland, Wolves, Huddersfield, Derby, forest, Leeds etc were all highly successful trophy winning teams now I revel in the downfall of all 4 of them the Premier League needed a wake up call and i think City and soon Newcastle and maybe Villa will be the ones to do it
@benim1359
@benim1359 24 күн бұрын
As a liverpill fan, i feel bad for you Gunners. I know how it feels to loose the league by 1-2 points.
@artmichael5270
@artmichael5270 23 күн бұрын
It's clear to everyone that AFTV has really hurt Arsenal. Is it not possible for the club to issue an official statement dissociating itself from AFTV? I mean, crazy thought, but, won't it have some merit?
@muratkulci9437
@muratkulci9437 24 күн бұрын
Yeah I honestly think it’s the fans. This is coming from a non-English watcher that’s completely neutral for the PL. like I remember the hashtag PrayForPorto trending, or “give us Real Madrid”. While every fan base has annoying and cocky fans it seems like arsenal are more annoying, and with more annoying people. Like I don’t recall Liverpool when they were competing with city trash talking this badly, saying stuff like “goodbye United, Spurs and Chelsea we are on to bigger things now”. Arsenal fans being cocky is also annoying considering arsenal haven’t won a major trophy for 20 years and were a banter club for majority of those 20 years. Yet act the most cocky. Oh and AFTV is also a thing.
@artmichael5270
@artmichael5270 23 күн бұрын
It's the fans you see online. Those blokes are just aiming for more engagement, hence their volatile content
@muratkulci9437
@muratkulci9437 23 күн бұрын
@@artmichael5270 I mean the inline fanbase is what 95% of football fans witness. And I don’t think they just do it for engagement, no other team really does so why should they?
@yungclimba
@yungclimba 23 күн бұрын
All top 6 fans do it online you're being very delusional right now
@muratkulci9437
@muratkulci9437 23 күн бұрын
@@yungclimba not to the extend of arsenal fans, Not even close. Again this is just from what I have seen in the past like 10 years as a neutral but even Liverpool when they were ucl winners weren’t this bad. Like do you remember them ever going “yeah guys pray for Porto we are gonna destroy them”. I mean maybe a few but not enough to get a whole ass hashtag trending. Even spurs when they got to the ucl final barely talked this much trash. All have annoying fan bases but arsenal is by far the worst.
@yungclimba
@yungclimba 23 күн бұрын
@@muratkulci9437 "Pray for Coventry"
@mkultra1074
@mkultra1074 23 күн бұрын
Love dont come no stronger than yours and mine, cuz I believe in you, you believe in me that makes us one of a kinddddd
@JJ-qd9yl
@JJ-qd9yl 23 күн бұрын
Stuck in my head since i saw that clip as well
@Stickan1278
@Stickan1278 23 күн бұрын
I firmly believe that until Arsenal actually win a significant trophy that isn’t the community shield they will keep being hated like they are.
@persimm0n
@persimm0n 24 күн бұрын
The goat has posted 🐐🐐🐐
@Vizeh
@Vizeh 24 күн бұрын
❤❤
@okochannell
@okochannell 23 күн бұрын
At this point it seems like rival fans are constantly bitching about the aftv, whereas arsenal fans don't even care about that channel
@AhmedR7184
@AhmedR7184 23 күн бұрын
Waiting for those 115 charges to hit for the league to feel competitive
@francisugboko
@francisugboko 24 күн бұрын
To be specific it's the fans that people doesn't like because they are insufferable which is understandable.
@revenant1864
@revenant1864 24 күн бұрын
Most of the fans are fine, its just a select few that ruin it for everyone
@BDB_721
@BDB_721 24 күн бұрын
All our players get underrated/disrespected, especially saka.
@Vizeh
@Vizeh 24 күн бұрын
Depends which fans you see I guess, feel like those on Twitter and those not have a different opinion
@domL2507
@domL2507 24 күн бұрын
Which is a terrible argument most fans of big teams are the exact same
@lucastanciu2567
@lucastanciu2567 13 күн бұрын
i don’t feel like arsenal fans have ever been particularly different to other big clubs in terms of how “insufferable” they are, but seeing people parrot this nonsense is making me want to spam all of my mates with arsenal stuff after every single win and after any trophy we’re gonna win in our lifetimes. you definitely haven’t seen “insufferable” yet
@Smj1303
@Smj1303 24 күн бұрын
I think it’s more damning for the premier league that people are basically saying a team shouldn’t be allowed to win it four times on the bounce. Surely that undermines the competition?
@tinypardus
@tinypardus 24 күн бұрын
being owned by a petrostate undermines the competition
@IZ4DAYZ_
@IZ4DAYZ_ 24 күн бұрын
Hey vizeh do you plan on doing a video about Burnley's season and kompany potentially going to Bayern? I would just like to see your thoughts as your a Burnley fan! I know how hard making videos are though especially because you have an amazing child aswell
@salamisticc
@salamisticc 24 күн бұрын
Hi vizeh lookin handsome today
@chip1464
@chip1464 24 күн бұрын
nothing new there
@Vizeh
@Vizeh 24 күн бұрын
Cheers❤
@PrincePhilani
@PrincePhilani 23 күн бұрын
Yo, what's playing in the background in the beginning 🤧🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart 24 күн бұрын
As to City as the Prem's Bayern Munich: 1. Those charges are slated to be heard in court at "end 2025"; 2. Pep has hinted that 24/25 MAY BE his last season. So quite a big iceberg on the horizon.
@darpanbharadwaj8
@darpanbharadwaj8 24 күн бұрын
Not in end you got that wrong. During mid 2025
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart 24 күн бұрын
@@darpanbharadwaj8 let's see ...
@ndhlovumichael
@ndhlovumichael 24 күн бұрын
City winning 4 doesn't make the league non competitive because we've won it on the last day twice and we've been involved in crazy title races, with a 3 way race this season... To me, the league is competitive, but City always find a way of being marginally better than the rest, and also it's a strong mentality which help us rescue games even from losing positions... We all know city fans in the Etihad and how impossible it has become to see City losing a 90minute match in the Etihad, that mentality, that culture is what helps push us in title races
@thekeccles1996
@thekeccles1996 23 күн бұрын
This. Look back on City's first PL title and the famous Aguero winner -- That match has come to define City in this modern era of football, and going back to that match is like seeing in real time how a club can go from famously "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory" to becoming a routine favorite that you can rarely ever count out. Moments like that (including the comeback win against Villa with Gundo) are part of the club's culture now.
@n0rman908
@n0rman908 23 күн бұрын
Agree. That, and the money.
@artmichael5270
@artmichael5270 23 күн бұрын
Yeah. Mentality. And a lot of money. And a lot of financial breaches. Literally hundreds of financial breaches.
@columodonnell9212
@columodonnell9212 23 күн бұрын
Mentality (Oil money) and culture (ffp violations)
@thegoodgunner
@thegoodgunner 22 күн бұрын
outside arsenal ,pool and city the rest of the league is piss poor
@zeeolifant77
@zeeolifant77 24 күн бұрын
As a City fan, I indeed did notnwant Arsenal to win the league.
@tinypardus
@tinypardus 24 күн бұрын
crazy, big if true
@cola4249
@cola4249 23 күн бұрын
Why not?
@SamuelSantos_
@SamuelSantos_ 23 күн бұрын
I got an ad for the new Arsenal shirt during this video lmao
@nicolascastillo7065
@nicolascastillo7065 23 күн бұрын
The answers they will give as to why they hate Arsenal will always be subjective or some invention, there is never a reason, they will tell you that because we think we are going to win the league, something that anyone in the same position would do or that every time an Arsenal player celebrates a goal/victory they invent that we believe we won the league but the reality is that they are afraid that we will win (which is going to happen if we continue along the same trajectory) and it bothers them that we are no longer the banter team like we were before and that there is positivism in the fans, so much so that fake accounts are even created to speak badly about the team as if they were fans, at this point we no longer care and the only thing they do is that the day we win they are going to have to hide
@Provenom100
@Provenom100 23 күн бұрын
Genuinely if you banter Arsenal or go on about how you're glad they didn't win the league (unless you're a Tottenham fan) then you have absolutely zero ground to stand on when you call the league boring. Football twitter has ruined the way we view the game.
@qwertymehta8342
@qwertymehta8342 22 күн бұрын
People in real life absolutely hate Arsenal and their fans lmao. Especially if you live in London
@Provenom100
@Provenom100 22 күн бұрын
@@qwertymehta8342 Yeah in London but that makes sense because they're neighbouring rivals. If you live anywhere else in the country you're just weird for having a strange level of hatred for them just because a few of them make tits of themselves on AFTV.
@Mid98Librarian
@Mid98Librarian 24 күн бұрын
as a liverpool fan, my main problem with arsenal has always been that their fanbase continuously talk shit about us and klopp while they themselves have now gone trophyless back to back with close to a super team.
@void0350
@void0350 23 күн бұрын
everyone has to take it, 2nd is the first loser.. the difference is we are getting shit on from everywhere, even good players like Saka, one of the best englsihman gets stick while someone like Foden had average seasons until this one and gets hyped to the moon.
@cola4249
@cola4249 23 күн бұрын
Klopp is generally very well respected by Arsenal fans, always has been.
@domquinnchandler
@domquinnchandler 23 күн бұрын
Well tbf Liverpool are now finished without Klopp, whereas Arsenal can get better next year and leave them in the dust
@Rizzy726
@Rizzy726 23 күн бұрын
This Arsenal team isn't a super team by any means. Close to one but not there yet.
@enzaka3102
@enzaka3102 23 күн бұрын
Super team? Come on man what the fuck we are not a super team
@2MoreTimes
@2MoreTimes 23 күн бұрын
Its kind of sad, i go on twitter and i literally just see our fans (mainly) from africa who just ki** themselves over coming 2nd, football is lowkey crazy.
@thommiekaplan
@thommiekaplan 24 күн бұрын
the fans still hold on to the unbeaten season they had years ago, if they win anything big it would be the only they’d talk about for another 20 years
@tinypardus
@tinypardus 24 күн бұрын
yes we celebrate our club's history and we are proud of the stuff we have won?
@cola4249
@cola4249 23 күн бұрын
So then why do united fans talk of a treble won 25 years ago? Should clubs like Villa, Forrest and even Spurs not be able to talk about titles won even if they were ages ago? The invincibles might not be considered a great achievement by city or united but to us that's the single greatest feat in our clubs history.
@Arbalest3
@Arbalest3 24 күн бұрын
The thing I don’t seem to understand is this “City Juggernaut” claim. On paper, sure 4 in a row SEEMS bad, as if there’s no competition, but how many league titles, even going back to the ones won by Pellegrini and Mancini, have been blow outs and wrapped up by March? The Man United season where they finished second is really the only season where City where THAT far away from everyone else, and every single other title has either come down to final day or final 3 days. Sure, one team winning the league 6 out of 7 times SOUNDS like a farmers league, but that’s taking the credit away from the likes of Liverpool and Arsenal who have really pushed City to be the best in the league.
@DennyTopG
@DennyTopG 23 күн бұрын
Bayern also had very close title fights in the last couple of seasons, yet the bri'ish still called the Bundesliga a farmer's league
@Johndoe-gf7eu
@Johndoe-gf7eu 23 күн бұрын
So if bayern have a close race every year, but still win 11 in a row, its not a farmers league? Doesn’t make sense.
@Arbalest3
@Arbalest3 23 күн бұрын
@@Johndoe-gf7eu that’s cause you fail to see my point. In that instance there has been NO other winners than Bayern, with them vacuuming up all the talent in Germany to create a super team and not let other teams even get close to competing. Look at this season, it took a bad manager and a VERY INSANE Leverkusen performance to dethrone them for the first time in 11 years. Man city has not and most likely never will hold that monopoly of buying all the best talent in England AND win with no one being able to catch up to them
@shmulikchulpaev3938
@shmulikchulpaev3938 24 күн бұрын
They would prefer Wimbledon to win over arsenal
@johnrockyryan
@johnrockyryan 24 күн бұрын
Oh no doubt 😂
@ykchew8363
@ykchew8363 24 күн бұрын
I remembered Villa dominated City and got points off them as well just shows how good Villa was, so losing to them was kind of understandable. 1 out of 6 against Fulham was what really cost us the title.
@BringBackOGClubPenguin
@BringBackOGClubPenguin 3 күн бұрын
As a foreigner, I feel like the hate for Arsenal is contained inside england. Outside of england they’re pretty well liked.
@paulspy
@paulspy 24 күн бұрын
Honestly i'm a united fan so i couldnt care who won the league, but i think the reqson a lot of people didnt want aresnal to win was because of the fans. From what ive heqrd from people they dont like aresnal fans so they didnt want them to win the league
@lyno2834
@lyno2834 24 күн бұрын
If that's a reason then every team with a fan base shouldn't want the other team to win because they can't stand their fans. And that's the problem people have become so narrow minded that because of a small minority of obnoxious and extreme Arsenal fans then the whole team and the majority of reasonable fans should suffer is that it ?
@lyno2834
@lyno2834 24 күн бұрын
I don't think so, it's just people just love to hate on Arsenal that's it. Even if Arsenal were to win the league tomorrow those people would push the goalposts and find something else to hate Arsenal for.
@paulspy
@paulspy 24 күн бұрын
@lyno2834 I agree people are just haters ik that being a united fan. But I'm pretty sure it's just people don't like aresnal
@Johndoe-gf7eu
@Johndoe-gf7eu 23 күн бұрын
Same, aslong as it aint liverpool, our record number 20 is still intact and we are still the kings of england. Love to see it
@btg5336
@btg5336 24 күн бұрын
As a Man U fan would have still rather Arsenal won it
@princetbz1102
@princetbz1102 24 күн бұрын
yh same
@Maxmorris12
@Maxmorris12 24 күн бұрын
That actually makes sense, Utd fans hate arsenal but not as much as they hate city or Liverpool. I don’t like Man Utd but I’d take them winning the league any day over Chelsea or spurs as they are London rivals
@francocentrone197
@francocentrone197 23 күн бұрын
I don't see people complaining that Man United won 13 Prems in 20 years under Ferguson, why do they complain with City's current dominance?
@partlycurrent
@partlycurrent 23 күн бұрын
What's the Burnley opinion on Bayern possibly signing Vinny?
@A-username862
@A-username862 24 күн бұрын
As a Tottenham fan, I think it’s self explanatory lol
@Vizeh
@Vizeh 24 күн бұрын
Yeah that’s fair
@kwanlinus6999
@kwanlinus6999 24 күн бұрын
as much as I don't like Arsenal fans as a Liverpool fan, I still think your fans celebrating the loss against City is a bit over. Ange was right.
@A-username862
@A-username862 24 күн бұрын
@@kwanlinus6999 Yh I do agree with that. With that mentality we’ll never win anything and be “spursy”
@abm5119
@abm5119 24 күн бұрын
As a Liverpool fan who transitioned to rooting for man city to win the league after we bottled it, who knows the pain of losing the league by just one point, twice, I feel your pain, Arsenal. Embrace the hate, because you'll get yours. And it tastes sweet.
@johnrockyryan
@johnrockyryan 24 күн бұрын
K BUT WHAT IF WE FUCKING DONT G CAUSE LETS BE HONEST MATE THIS ARSENAL TEAM ISNT EVEN CLOSE TO KLOPPS PRIME LIVERPOOL!!
@virtuelegamer19
@virtuelegamer19 23 күн бұрын
Dont forget the legendary sentence from ty: if Leicester can win the league we can win the quadruple 😂😂
@Simo1453.
@Simo1453. 23 күн бұрын
I mean as a tottenham fan that doesnt hate arsenal i couldnt care less about them winning the league but the champions league spot was already taken by villa so i didnt mind losing to city aswell
@ermericcarolissen694
@ermericcarolissen694 23 күн бұрын
The Champions League spot wasn't already taken by Villa when Spurs played City.
@richardlittle8626
@richardlittle8626 24 күн бұрын
I (Liverpool fan) didn't want Arsenal to win the Premier league. The main reason is that their fans are so insufferable. Combined 11s with Real Madrid after 1 title challenge, the whole pray for Bayren thing. I was told by an Arsenal fan that they would beat city at the Ethihad 4-0 because they are so much better and would easily win the CL. Some of them were saying Artetta had surpassed Klopps legacy without even winning anything. The thought of them winning was painful. When City wins, it's empty, it's hollow. They don't have many fans, so it's easy to ignore. 115 also discredits anything they achieve.
@blueity3659
@blueity3659 23 күн бұрын
AFTV is terrible. But it only represents about 1% of Arsenal fans who (not coincidentally) are the most vocal out of all of the fans. Don't judge Arsenal or any fanbase for that matter on a couple of delusional fans
@richardlittle8626
@richardlittle8626 23 күн бұрын
@blueity3659 you're 100% right about AFTV. A lot of these comments I've heard, though are from Arsenal fans I personally know. I would have to deal with whatever they would say next if they actually won a league title
@blueity3659
@blueity3659 23 күн бұрын
@@richardlittle8626 Sounds like a lot of Arsenal fans you personally know use AFTV lol, though I couldn't stand it if I was in your position and had to deal with their comments if they won
@chiiesa
@chiiesa 24 күн бұрын
As a Newcastle fan, imo nothing can override that feeling of bad-blood with Arsenal, Liverpool etc. So of course we want City to win the league as we have no bad-blood whatsoever really.
@timeoutshirt
@timeoutshirt 23 күн бұрын
I agree with you they slipped up once, but they played for a draw against city and it was a mistake
@tejx11
@tejx11 23 күн бұрын
The day they win, it is going to be greatest celebration!
@bradycoys
@bradycoys 24 күн бұрын
I rate the title Viz 😂
@PhilliesNostalgia
@PhilliesNostalgia 24 күн бұрын
It's probably because their fans talk way too much, are so arrogant, yet they have won as much as Real Madrid has. They talk way too much for their own good. Also AFTV doesn't help
@benjaminaraya8073
@benjaminaraya8073 24 күн бұрын
8:20 thank you, thank you finally someone with a brain or not trying to do banter.
@tom_shrimplin
@tom_shrimplin 24 күн бұрын
Didn't mind them until they threw a wobbly over the Gordon goal like a bunch of children
@MCFCTheMadHatter
@MCFCTheMadHatter 24 күн бұрын
It's more the Arsenal fanbase that the actual team. In social media, the Arsenal fanbase, on the whole, are larger than any other clubs' and are certainly the loudest. Combine that with their perpetual outlandish protestations about how good they are, and by definition, they're insufferable. A few examples of their insanity: they demand sporting validation but refuse to be accountable to any expectations. There was a prominent YT channel saying before the CL QF draw, that not only did he think Arsenal could easily beat Bayern or Real Madrid, but in a combined 11 with RM, there would be 9 Arsenal players! Over the season, many others fans were saying they strongly felt they had a far better chance of winning both the EPL and CL over any other club, and some even said that the CL is easier that PL and that they would be OK with just winning the CL. What utter entitled nonsense! Every club has obnoxious fans, but for whatever the reason, maybe the Arsenal fanbase median age is much younger, there just seem to be so many of them spouting absolute guff and then have the audacity to get upset when you call them out over it. Therefore, the mere idea of having to deal with from most football fans is just too much, which is why they'd prefer anyone to win it
@sejason56
@sejason56 23 күн бұрын
I'm an Arsenal fan and the 9 of 11 combined team with RM is crazy... I'd probably just take my centrebacks, Rice and Saka .. rest of the team is Madrid.
@filipnilsson8688
@filipnilsson8688 23 күн бұрын
You have to realize a lot of people online make outlandish statements for bait and financial incentives, a few loud people is not a accurate representation of the whole fanbase
@Seoighe90
@Seoighe90 22 күн бұрын
In my own opinion there are 2 types of Arsenal fans…. The traditional like me, who takes it game by game, enjoys the journey but at the same time understand the monumental challenge we are up against when we play Liverpool, utd, spurs, Chelsea, Man City and even the likes of villa and palace regardless where they are in the league…. They are tough opponents and it’s football and anything can happen. Yes I do believe it’s possible to win the league but in order to do so we must be near perfect. Last season I never once was like ‘we are winning the league’ even with 8 points in the ‘bank’ over city as I know just how much of a monster city are in the run in. Same as this year, I just hoped and enjoyed the ride… no silly gram or twitter posts, just watching and enjoying my beloved team FINALLY playing well after so many years of watching infuriating sideways and backwards football trying to walk the ball in to the net. If we win against a rival so be it, I love the smile on my face after and that’s that, no calling out other fans or rubbing salt as on another day that same team could beat us… again… it’s football… Then you have the what I call the plastic fans… even I find these insufferable…. Prematurely printing champions shirts, posting all over social media, blasting Arteta out when the slightest thing goes wrong, forever tagging other fans in a post where they have lost to Arsenal, stupid comparisons like saka vs rashford or Doku or odegard vs Maddison etc etc etc Unfortunately these idiots get the most attention ie AFTV (which I don’t watch because it’s not a true arsenal channel, they profit from views after losses from rival fans with their rages and rants and they know it…. It’s a business model) As a traditional Arsenal fan, unfortunately I get lumped in with these clowns so I receive an absurd amount of ‘banter’ from rival fans when I play fifa with my arsenal past and present squad or mates as they just assume I’m of the plastic group and tbh it goes beyond banter, to the point I have to turn off notifications and I’ve even had to block people until the dust has settled. It’s honestly that bad as an Arsenal fan but hey…. I love my team, I’ll never stop supporting them and it’s just so soothing to the soul to see the boys skim it across the pitch with such class and ease these days, I love it! Maybe one day rival fans will wise up that plastic fans are the minority and do not represent Arsenal fans as a whole but even then…. I’ll still expect the hate or bullying disguised as ‘banter’ as it’s just an easy bullet in the chamber for them… what can you do! What I will say is the hate is real and it’s fn deep…. Why? I don’t really know… the above reason can’t be the whole story but who knows… Love the content my guy 💚 and oh…. COYG 🔴⚪️ 😂
@Leafy31
@Leafy31 23 күн бұрын
Man united fans aren't rlly ones to speak here when looking at the fact they didn't even get in the CONFERENCE league 💀
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