Same!

It was definitely lacking. Both their Air Forces are pretty good though.

Instead of soviet squids sinking our ships we'd have some tiberium lifeform leviathan, maybe a altered species of the floaters

@@Von_Langstein Definetly a missed opotunity... we never saw what tiberium did to the sea life... appart from the toxic algea and floaters

There are some Mod that Put GDI and Nod in RA3 so you can use these ships

That was just a throw away line for not having a navy.

@@Marinealver I'd prefer a theory. Also, Tiberium has changed its nature a few times. Blue Tiberium isn't as unstable as it used to be.

Kinda odd it all died out.

@@sheilaolfieway1885 I know the lore says that the nature of Tiberium changed after the Firestorm crisis, but it doesn't make sense. Suddenly all the seas cleared up, even though Mediterranean Sea changed into tiberium wasteland

I never understood why they obviously retconned the game like that…

"Hey uh, Battleship buddy...can you give us a hand against this GDI base and the f**king landing crafts coming in?" "Nah"

saftety reasons

If they know your name, then they know who to hunt for.

If they give you a name, then EA adds an unholy abomination to CnC as a result

thou shall not be named

Red alert: time travel Now imagine if the opposition know who you are and do a Skynet on you

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Nod using Battleships period would be weird. For a faction that evolved into a state, if you look a the founding members of Nod you'd think like the US navy would of adopted more of a destroyer and cruiser based surface fleet. A battleship is fine but they are useless in modern naval warfare and only good for bombardment but that is something Nod would not have in their favor. I mean comparing the starting GDI states against the Nod ones, at the time of the first Tiberium war. GDI has all the carriers on the world and Nod has zero.

@@Seriona1 Well, given that our modern world is vastly different to C'n'Cs world, they may still have uses for battleships. I mean the reason why in our modern time battleships are useless is because they are just way too inaccurate to do anything that other crafts could do far better and more precise. But a laser-turret (and we know Nod loves their lasers) will have no sigma (deviation from "perfect trajectory"). So laser turrents would be far more accurate. That way they can still deliver precision strikes over superlong distances. Granted this may prevent them from shooting balistic arcs, hit inland, hit objects behind mountains. But then again, what is the second job of a battleship? Be menacing. Battleships are to this day impressive and terrifying beasts of war. The fact that we're talking about a fictional battleship from a game that is set in an alternative time is prove to that. Have a battleship blockade a harbour and that places is clogged until a carrier comes in and blows the battleship up, but carriers can't be around all the time, especially in the world of C'n'C where there is a war on the entire world against Nod and one single blocked port is a pretty small priority compared to other things.

@@ServantOfOdin I agree with the overall view but the problem once again is that the founding members of GDI are all the naval powers of the world with Nod only good ally being China who has a garbage outdated navy. The entire point of a battleship is to be the king of the sea but carriers proved during WWII that air power will always dominate over naval supremacy which is why all the navies of the world moved to having a faster navy leaving the cruiser to be the heaviest ships in a combat surface fleet, Giving the time difference, the only different thing between our world and their world beyond the Hitler situation is Tiberium. So I have no reason to conclude naval warfare would change so it's possible in the Third Tiberium War that Nod was able to get Battleships into their fleets and have good use of it but GDI who has Carriers and Missiles would make the Battleship useless really quick. It is possible this Battleship here we are seeing maybe just be a local coastal battleship which would explain why it's armed so poorly compared to standard battleships but again, I do not see GDI and Nod ever getting beyond a destroyer and cruiser based fleet.

@@Seriona1 I do agree with your assessment mostly. Again, it boils down to the usage. I'm fairly certain that naval-warfare is mostly littoral (coastal) to begin with. So these battleships would primarily be used to attack inland, not other naval vessels. Actually, this would also explain the odd arrangement of the turrets...

Agreed

There's a reason why in history none of the powers of the world has ever been landlocked. (well one but that's because they are the exception)

@@Marinealver Who was landlocked as an Empire? I’m curious.

@@KaosNova2 Mongolian empire.

KANE LIVES

KANE LIVES

Fools… though I do not have a game yet, planning on getting 3, because scrin. Just wait until the scrin strike once more… I will destroy you Nod fools… the overlord would like more information on this Kane human, however.

But of course, the Scrin would keep their heaviest hardware afloat (several meters above the surface) due to anti-gravity tech

i feel like Scrin would more just use their aircraft and teleport their infantry aboard ships rather than use naval stuff,though i dont know much about the lore.

yes, good. Dew it!

Damn Nod Ascending Successfully Would Be Epic. Could Make For A Nice Stellaris Faction

I was confused by “Acension” because it feels like C&C4 contradicted it, with NOD including Kane coming back.

Overlord did order a fullblown invasion of Earth in the last Scrin level.

@@obelic71 that was going to be tiberium FPS, the basterds canceled it.

@@JoaoSoares-rs6ec that gameplay trailer was amazing

@@xdas11 yes it was

@@JoaoSoares-rs6ec after Kanes Wrath only silence! Nr4 will live forever in infamy.

sadly we only see c&c3 as the last game

Scrins are insectoids i afraid

Strategy games in general. Warhammer 40,000 has no aquatic forces, Total War Warhammer totally ignores Man O War. There is nothing in Starcraft or Star Wars save for maybe the Gungan sub. The only scifi that has aquatic forces are Stargate Atlantis, Starship Troopers Roughneck Chronicals, Planetary Annihilation, amd Emperor of the Fading Suns.

@@Marinealver Planetary Annihilation's predecessors Total Annihilation (+ The Core Contingency and Battle Tactics expacks) and Supreme Commander (especially 1 and Forged Alliance expack), and indie-developed spiritual successor to TA named Beyond All Reason, too Ardent Seas is still being developed.

Supreme Commander and total annihilation says hello

And what are those rituals? Or is it better if we don’t know?

Ditto!

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Thanks!

Roger that

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How about the Temple of NOD, Tech Centers and War Factories. He hasn't even covered those.

Probably after I cover the USA faction and generals. I think it makes sense to have the Leang video after those since her arsenal is a mix of all 3 of the factions.

Generally speaking when it comes to unit and building designs in video games the artists tend to follow the "rule of cool" school of thought. I also think that the TW3 developers had planned to have naval combat in the game, but didn't have time to implement it. There's even concept art of a GDI shipyard. I also plan on making a video dedicated to the Commandos of each of the factions.

To be fair if we made everything ''realistically viable'' we wouldnt have 85% of media created over decades today. We wouldnt have DOOM (how a single man can rip demons apart with their bare hands even before the curse?) We wouldnt have Avatar (Although practical, their tech also has its own problems) We wouldnt have ANY of the C&C. We wouldnt have ANY Alien related media. We wouldnt have ANY futuristic media. As a matter of fact everything we had would seem like copies of eachother. Rule of cool works. Because its actually interesting and fun. Now Im not against realistic designs or the practicalty, I really appreciate when designers manage to design things that are realistic and viable. But criticising a game for having *unrealistic* design choices is a bit overboard.

@@Kronosfobi Yeah I wouldn't take my comment that seriously, really it's more of a soft criticism. I like it when things 'largely' represent something that makes sense for it's own context. Like in a fantasy world an elf that can run fast, or in Doom the Doom Guy being unstoppable. Wasn't criticising all of fiction for being fiction come on now. Like I don't really like Nods Scorpion Tanks but they do... mostly function as they are supposed to. Got armour, treads, a cannon and so on even if it's all hinged onto the tracks in a ridiculous way and has a glass canopy crew compartment! Obviously I'd love the Nod Battleship more if it looked less like a pre-dreadnought (not that I don't love me pre-dreadnoughts!), didn't have a wired double hull, and was actually a functioning unit in the game at least to defend your base from surface, and possibly air, threats. But it is what it is even with my minor quibble. I'll apologise if I sounded more serious and damning then I intended though. Probably preface it as "more realistically viable" rather then just "realistically viable."

@@igncom1 Understandable, Have a nice day.

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That mod was a bit of a let down imo. Was pretty excited to see it and then play it. Deleted it after about 30 mins.

GDI has a supercarrier, a battleship (though less armed than the Nod equivalent shown in the video) and smaller craft. Same Tib Wars game

But it's a nice surprise - right?

That’s what I noted too. That’s a 60s sitcom.

Yeah the pacific campaign of WW2 basically kickstarted the carrier doctrine into light speed. And as technology improved especially in missile technology and aircraft. Battleships didnt have the flexibility or range and almost perfect precision of say aircraft and missile cruisers. As both those things could carry equal firepower that could as we learned even turn battleships to scrap. Making them big resource hogs that represented too big of a target with too much investment to lose. But battleships did make sense in some cases for the time they were made. Big hulking tanks with the ability to bombard a whole area. But when everything became long range and smaller and even aircraft being able to take out such huge ships battleships are just an obscurity now. Still for the time they were around they were works of art in a sense.

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I don't know. NoStringsPrd already did a dedicated video on the Forgotten and I think he covered them pretty well. So if I did my own, I feel I would just be mostly repeating him.

@@Jethild Very true I watched it earlier today and found it incredibly helpful. My friends and I have been trying to make a ttrpg/wargame out of this universe and I needed some info on them badly.

Yeah I think it's reasonable to assume that Nod would make use of their stealth tech on the ships. But I didn't notice any obvious signs of it on the models themselves. Then again, it could have been internal. There was just limited information on the vessels in general.