Stewart Lee talks about blasphemy and how religions deal with criticism. Talking to various commentators, including Liberty director Shami Chakrabarti, journalist Polly Toynbee and writer Alan Moore.
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@girlsinnottingham22016 жыл бұрын
he gave it to us straight, like a pear cider, made from 100% pear
@YourPalHDee5 жыл бұрын
PEARS! is it one giant pear????
@danm80045 жыл бұрын
@@YourPalHDee yes
@JimforbesRitte5 жыл бұрын
That pear cider joke has let itself go...
@gtb8705 жыл бұрын
100% pear cider has let itself go
@Tombrosapien4 жыл бұрын
Pear cider is grim
@Skinz0110 жыл бұрын
"Whether you think of the people behind me as hilarious bigots or well intentioned fools, they are none the less, divs." Hahaha!
@chasleask85335 жыл бұрын
That yellow shirt is excellent
@Telcontar19624 жыл бұрын
The joke was on him. Those he served up to bolster his point are far more hypocritical than those they deride.....including Stewart Lee.
@darrenwilson994 жыл бұрын
@@Telcontar1962 I have no idea what the point you are trying to make.
@Telcontar19624 жыл бұрын
Darren Wilson well just ask yourself politically where are his barbs most directed. Then ask yourself what views he espouses. As bigots go he is way out in front of those he has a pop at. In fact the mental gymnastics he has to go through to hold the opinions he does, let alone have a go at those he calls bigots is truly Olympian standard. I find him quite funny on occasion but his political views are more comedic than his actual material.
@Telcontar19624 жыл бұрын
@Wilbur Wafer or you are just too thick to understand? I know what my money is on :)
@davepugh25197 жыл бұрын
I find it pretty offensive when I am told that I am a wicked sinner who deserves eternal punishment.
@Waldowsky6 жыл бұрын
Dave P, pussy.
@arsenalfanrichi5 жыл бұрын
@@Waldowsky The irony went straight over your head didn't it?
@danpearce45475 жыл бұрын
@Keith Farrell You're not 'a wicked sinner who deserves eternal punishment.' You're a very naughty boy!
@johnlowdon58095 жыл бұрын
Well stop kicking your dog.
@tomsdottir5 жыл бұрын
@@johnlowdon5809 That particular euphemism is a new one to me.
@colco278310 жыл бұрын
It's about time we in Britain told our politicians to make our country a secular one. Remove charitable status from all faith groups.
@steiffbar5 жыл бұрын
Same here in the US. And it's getting worse. :(
@YourPalHDee5 жыл бұрын
Why?
@StevieRevbo5 жыл бұрын
"our politicians" and "our country" - ? lol
@ulalaFrugilega5 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Bind charitable status to charitable deeds. Too simple to be done, though, I guess.
@petehouse83804 жыл бұрын
TheTimbalanders nonsense, I’m a lefty, and I despise ALL religions.
@AvangionQ4 жыл бұрын
Blasphemy: speech that has been outlawed to prevent your religion from losing arguments.
@AvangionQ3 жыл бұрын
@C Stew There is some real hate out there. Of the hate crimes based on a religious bias, `60.2 percent were victims of crimes motivated by offenders’ anti-Jewish bias.` ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2019/topic-pages/victims
@AvangionQ3 жыл бұрын
@@1inchPunchBowl That was a reply to a now deleted message ... keep up, right back at you. ... or are you just trolling?
@AvangionQ3 жыл бұрын
@Jack Daw I think religion lost many an argument.
@AvangionQ3 жыл бұрын
@Jack Daw Two things to say when people make that Pascal's Wager argument: which god? There's thousands of religions, each mutually exclusive. Funny that god makes no appearance in the natural world, yet people still believe in fairy tales. To you, this sort of logic might be blasphemy, but to me, this is religion losing arguments. Are you getting it yet?
@AvangionQ3 жыл бұрын
@Jack Daw You're a self-deluded bad joke, I have nothing more to say to you.
@bad-girlbex37919 жыл бұрын
"They are, nonetheless, divs!" Oh Stewart, I fucking love you!
@christonamtb40898 жыл бұрын
i think i love you bex
@ludakriss909410 жыл бұрын
Oh shit. "Presumably because it isn't 1508" :D too good.
@luciusseneca438010 жыл бұрын
Blasphemy is a victimless crime
@martinda744610 жыл бұрын
Unless its solid or sharpened blasphemy.
@mohitoness10 жыл бұрын
***** should be a warning at the front page of the internet
@martinda744610 жыл бұрын
***** Yeah, a warning about jimmyshitbags' profile photo...Holy shit! ;o)
@heatrayzvideo300710 жыл бұрын
It's not a crime
@John.anti-carnist7 жыл бұрын
Its not even a crime. A crime is taking our money to spend on bullshit, and the government allows it.
@starkRECORDINGS11 жыл бұрын
I consider myself educated (and still quite ignorant), but I always learn and have something new to think about when I listen to Stewart Lee - Stewart is a very clever bloke - keep it coming Stewart!
@HJJallday6 жыл бұрын
This should be required viewing in all RE classes.
@martinbrittain25734 жыл бұрын
Yes and so should The Life of Brian, followed by a long discussion
@mustafarussell3 жыл бұрын
In every school I've ever worked in, the case for atheism and some of the blasphemy that goes with it has been made. What should be more commonly debated in sensible public forums is the notion that mankind only comes to know and think through the limitless benevolence of the creator. The movement away from godliness has come hand in hand with a dangerous reliance on science and technology. An atheistic mindset is ultimately less successful. Particularly in the next life.
@HJJallday3 жыл бұрын
Mustafa Russell would love to know how you know what helps you in the afterlife?! I suspect you may have one book you value above others?
@mustafarussell3 жыл бұрын
@@HJJallday if you are sincere in wanting to know, I will happily tell
@GlasgowGallus3 жыл бұрын
As long as RE is on any curriculum, atheism, or any counterpoint should be demonstrated equally...
@teresasteele53275 жыл бұрын
I can remember when I first questioned the Catholic church. I was 12 years old sat in church with my mum shaking hands in peace with members of the congregation and I thought that's all well and good inside a house of worship, but what about outside in the real world? I like the quiet reflection you can have in the more ancient parochial buildings, when you are left alone with your thoughts without the intrusion of the 'Mass', but I can get that from looking out to sea. I believe in people, and love.
@DuskAndHerEmbrace132 жыл бұрын
God is in the world and in people. Not one other object among others, or one other person among others. He is the source of all objects and persons. The love you feel and describe there any intelligent Christian would recognise as contact with God, but it is still far removed. Religion is guiding your sense closer towards God and guiding your life into alignment with him. Which is the centre of everything.
@JFoster47 жыл бұрын
It's scary how this documentary is far more relevant now, 10 years after its release.
@ol751233 жыл бұрын
still relevant today
@FlyingSpaghettiMonster20002 жыл бұрын
I'd suggest it's even worse now. We have ideologies that have no tolerance. Cannot be criticised. Nothing should be above criticism in this country.
@simtime75912 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000 Yes but who is doing the canceling these days, its the liberals isn't it.... so what does that tell you.. It tells me, the liberals of today, are not really liberals at all..
@peteconrad20772 жыл бұрын
@@simtime7591 so the ones doing the cancelling aren’t the liberals then.
@owenevans832 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000 Agreed
@xe6667 жыл бұрын
The Goodness Gracious Me sketch being banned because 300 people out of 5 MILLION complained is fucking ridiculous.Letting the minority dictate what others can see is worrying
@MsAdesio10 жыл бұрын
Stewart is the quintessential Brit, and I mean that in every positive way
@hanssprungfeld84873 жыл бұрын
No such thing
@timothysoar13212 жыл бұрын
And Johnnie Rotten
@estebansteverincon71173 жыл бұрын
How do you blaspheme against something you can't actually demonstrate to exist???
@titteryenot45242 жыл бұрын
That, sir, is a fucking marvellous point.
@DanBakerMusic3 жыл бұрын
Utterly compelling and I agree with everything stated here. Why can we not have Stewart Lee do a tour of schools? His personality and complete ease with any subject coupled with a beautiful use of language would enlighten any classroom.
@titteryenot45242 жыл бұрын
Lol. Are you his agent?
@ThunderChunky1012 жыл бұрын
Remember when Lee was opposed to censorship and did a documentary complaining about how his opera was censored? Well now we know it was all total bullsh*t - he's now protesting to have an interviewer censored for doing an interview with someone he disagrees with. Oh and he also used to pretend to be opposed to totalitarianism and pro-freedom, but as with all leftists this too is demonstrable nonsense, because he wants the state, lead by the Tories BTW, to be able to force people to be injected with experimental and dangerous drugs four times a year. Absolutely inexcusable behaviour. He's gone from one of my favourite comedians to probably my least favourite living person.
@titteryenot45242 жыл бұрын
@@ThunderChunky101 That sounds like a difficult break-up. My condolences.💐
@plebjames2 жыл бұрын
@@ThunderChunky101 which interviewer is he protesting to have censored, and who did he interview?
@MrFuzzyGreen2 жыл бұрын
Putting Lee in schools is a lovely idea until he starts picking on one part of the class for not finding him as funny as the rest of the class.
@truthtrumpsdumbness6389 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable ....excellent, calm, reasoned argument against outrageous rants by silly folk, who don't even understand what they are ranting about
@taliesyn1211 жыл бұрын
An excellent , reasoned and informative programme. Thoroughly enjoyed watching it again and, frankly, I am quite amused at the idea that some people really believe that a Pan dimensional ,Omnipotent Super Being would actually need them to stick up for it.
@jackthebassman18 жыл бұрын
Mocking religion? And so it should be mocked, ridiculed, not only for the stupidity of believing in something for which there is not a single shred of evidence but mainly for the personal and mass hatred, misery, wars and death carried out in it's name. As Richard Dawkins said in an interview "When was the last time an atheist flew an aeroplane into a skyscraper" (paraphrased). Religion is not only primitive it is divisive, disgusting and kills.
@juliewake45855 жыл бұрын
Jack bassman and of course there’s Christopher Hitchens.
@nickmagee-brown73910 жыл бұрын
God this man is extremely smart. Understand him and you understand how smart his humour is.
@marcbaigrie22954 жыл бұрын
What a pretentious comment
@hpebackwards3 жыл бұрын
Stew should put this on his website.
@Jordannadroj203 жыл бұрын
The thing is, he gives it to you straight. Like a pear cider, made from 100% pears
@6chhelipilot10 жыл бұрын
Satan has let himself go.
@ianedmonds91914 жыл бұрын
He looks like prince.
@FlyingSpaghettiMonster20002 жыл бұрын
@@ianedmonds9191 the artist formally known as Stuart Lee?
@chrisofnottingham8 жыл бұрын
It's Health & Safety gone mad.
@etontrifle8 жыл бұрын
Gran.
@mysund8 жыл бұрын
True, and my printer at work prints on both side as default. When will the madness stop.
@lavenderandred_7 жыл бұрын
chris4072511 "You couldn't make it up"
@mysund7 жыл бұрын
Its from a scooby doo feature: "Scooby Doo and the pirate zombie jungle island." And neither Partridge or any peartree was in this episode, eventhou they were specifically written into the script. But due to more than 30 year old budget cuts, they had to be removed.
@mrbtapir7 жыл бұрын
Ripleyesque Partridge actually said 'it's political correctness gone mad' in reply to Lynn but I can't remember why.
@chickenbento2 жыл бұрын
@12:40 "Even bastions of free speech, like the guardian " is probably the funniest line I've heard come out of Stewart's mouth.
@ThunderChunky1012 жыл бұрын
Even funnier now that he's actively pressuring Spotify to censor Joe Rogan! What a truly awful person.
@stephenport47682 жыл бұрын
I love the sarcastic humour of Stuart Lee's comedy yet his intelligence when doing these documentaries
@guitarreilly7 жыл бұрын
religions let itself go
@Jesse__H4 жыл бұрын
All these people are so well-spoken. Comparing the discourse seen here with an average American political issue interview just, well, it gives me conniptions.
@Neil_MALTHUS2 жыл бұрын
Conniptions??? 🤣 (I did have to google it!)
@FTZPLTC2 жыл бұрын
Sadly we do and did have plenty of erratic dickwads as well. We just didn't feel obligated to put them on TV. We do now though.
@modgrip8052 жыл бұрын
You can get a cream for that.
@John-dd7ez Жыл бұрын
I caught conniptions from a dirty girl.
@paulgraham6316 Жыл бұрын
By far the most intelligent and relevant stand-up comic on the planet. Can't wait to see him in Liverpool next month.
@TheCrimsonLupus2 жыл бұрын
Alan Moore, talking about America rejecting science and devolving due to religious fundamentalism is so prescient!
@ab8jeh Жыл бұрын
28:25 aged like fine wine. This was filmed ten years ago and we're here now in 2022.
@Melsharpe95 Жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@LouiseBrooksBob Жыл бұрын
The current war on trans people in the UK is being conducted in the courts by evangelical Christian activist lawyers and by religious activists at the top level of government. Some members of the UK government at top level have been openly talking to Christian Nationalist groups in the USA.
@carpenter30693 жыл бұрын
What I love most is these religious people bashing science while they drive a new car, probably the most advanced scientific conglomeration of scientific invention the average person will own.
@shelbyvillerules99623 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I mean say what you want about the Amish… because they’ll probably never read any comments on KZfaq.
@petercolledge22362 жыл бұрын
Lovely post. God bless you, Stew. On a religious note, the statement 'God Is Not Mocked' is simply that. It's on a par with 'the Sun heats up the Earth'. Simple fact, which you may or may not agree with. But it does mean that protestors asking that God be not mocked are not understanding that simple statement.
@paulr34579 жыл бұрын
Blasphemy cannot exist unless you believe in that religion which I don't, therefore it doesn't exist. So christians must be blaspheming to Jews and Muslims for saying Jesus is the son of God. It's complete and utter bollocks, how can a religion be offended, it's not conscious. Don't get me fucking started on freedom of speech, it's a matter opinion which nobody has a monopoly on. Isn't it ironic that if I condemn religions for actually mutilating baby and older boys penises that I'm the one doing something wrong. We have to have a proper secular society. If you don't like something on the tele SWITCH CHANNELS. They're part of the offended brigade marching up and down the street waiting for something or someone to offend them.
@figletfromfiggy9 жыл бұрын
trying to understand nonsensical nonsense is a slippery slope that will at best leave you feeling frustrated and at worst leave you feeling angry and frustrated!
@enigmatic4749 жыл бұрын
thank god you said it (and very eloquently too i might add!), i was about to kick off!
@paulr34579 жыл бұрын
Tom Thanks for that. Do I detect a hint of sarcasm when you say "thank god"?
@enigmatic4749 жыл бұрын
haha, i'll hold my hands up and admit i didn't realise i said that! rather embarrassing.. but still, i'm going to argue it's not hypocritical on linguistic grounds! it's a common expression! :S
@paulr34579 жыл бұрын
Tom Agree...I know what you mean.
@tomwilko78419 жыл бұрын
"Whether you think of the people behind me as hysterical bigots or well intentioned fools, they are none the less...divs"
@paulmitchell53495 жыл бұрын
There is rarely a wise man shouting in the street.
@iainrae615911 ай бұрын
When I hear someone say,' as a Christian' a small part of me dies.
@domhuckle3 ай бұрын
More documentaries from the peerless Mr Lee please world
@steiffbar5 жыл бұрын
I remember when "The Last Temptation of Christ" was released and I went to see it in Raleigh NC. I was VERY excited about the movie. My parents were Methodists (and, hence, pretty harmless, really) and they never ONCE said, "You should behave this way and believe this way blah blah blah". If anything, I think we went to church and Sunday school because THEIR folks had done it, and their folks etc., and it was basically just a social construct. Later in their lives, they pretty much stopped going altogether. But anyway .... that is my background. (And I'm an atheist.) When I got to the theatre, there were about 12-15 people outside PROTESTING. For them, depicting Christ (who was MADE to be played by Willem Defoe BTW) as possibly living a "human" life, loving a woman, having a wife and child - that was the highest form of blasphemy ever suggested! Oh NO! We can't have THAT! They actually were carrying signs saying stuff like, "Close this theatre!", "This whole cast will be thrown into hell!" or "The devil possesses Martin Scorsese!" (I am not joking. Who could forget THAT one?) They looked 100% ridiculous. Of course, this made peeps like me even MORE determined to see the film and I came out of it going, "Wow!" I'd never been exposed to thinking like that before. The movie was nothing short of (pardon the word) miraculous for me because, besides being a completely BEAUTIFUL film, it made me start thinking in so many other ways. I decided that the film made Christ MORE divine because HE HAD been a human man, dealing with basic life things and trying to teach people elementary tenants of good behavior in a terribly dangerous time and who, for all the good he did, got killed by the political machine that was Roman rule. Why? Because he challenged established government and law. People like him couldn't be allowed to go around or else the entire Roman way of life would collapse because .... people would start thinking for themselves. Christians say you have to have a "personal relationship" with Christ to be a good Christian. Well, how much more "personal" can you get than to identify with another human being pushed to his limits and still managing to be a gentle, kind and caring individual who - when pushed, like the story of him in the temple with the moneylenders - recognizes injustice and speaks UP? That is - or should be - universal.
@plebjames2 жыл бұрын
That Christians have to have a 'personal relationship with Christ' is a result of Protestantism. In the old days, it was less important that you actually believed, and more important that you did what the pope said i.e. respect Roman rule. Protestants said their individual relationship to god was the important thing, and that's what made it more about belief and less about practical observance
@Deks2K56 жыл бұрын
"Welcome to this avenue of trees where i have all my most profound thoughts" - love Stu xD
@celtic51772 жыл бұрын
Glad to see, even with all the hate his play got by these people, that he takes an open-minded, wide ranging view on religion, even as an atheist. A breath of fresh air in a sphere so often infested with lazy bigotry.
@thadtuiol1717 Жыл бұрын
Such a brave man is Stewart, he only goes for the low-hanging fruit of the kumbaya happy-clappy christians, but doesn't dare say shit to the followers of a certain other Abrahamic religion because that would involve the very real possibility of him receiving physical violence.
@raoulmontefiore48038 күн бұрын
Well it is Christians he has a beef with because it was specifically them that went after him. He also describes Salman Rushdie's problems with violent islamic prohibition, in case you missed that bit.
@cessrcd8 жыл бұрын
The Prophet Mohammed has let himself go...bless his name
@chrisgilliver13 жыл бұрын
I love Stewart Lee, but focusing on whether the Danish cartoons were funny or "clumsy" is completely missing the point. The response (death threats, riots etc) to them was inexcusable.
@MsGeeforce3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it didn't escape my notice that satire of Christianity was described as "thoughtful" or "insightful" or "affectionate" while cartoons satirising Islam were branded "clumsy".
@tomherbert23613 жыл бұрын
I think what they mean by clumsy is just that they were shit cartoons
@chrisgilliver13 жыл бұрын
@@tomherbert2361 I'm sure he did mean that, but as the guy above points out, his language and focus are noticeably different when talking about stuff to do with Islam. Let's not forget that innocent people died as a result of those cartoons. Perhaps he should be more concerned about that.
@tomherbert23613 жыл бұрын
@@chrisgilliver1 he clearly is concerned about it
@trevorsmith89502 жыл бұрын
Clumsy sounds like a euphemism for racist, imho
@curmudgeon19339 ай бұрын
28:40. The selection of Mike Johnson, a self-admitted fundamentalist Southern Baptist Christian, as Speaker of the US House of Representatives, with medieval opinions on almost every current major issue, proves Mr. Lee's view that we are regressing back to the Dark Ages. I'm expecting a rerun of the Salem Witch Trials to begin any day soon.
@juliewake45855 жыл бұрын
I think only Stewart Lee could do this. It’s a combination of weird satire (of course) and very serious comment about the absurdity of religious extremism.
@MrSamBroughton11 жыл бұрын
Stewart Lee is brilliant. Great film.
@canturgan10 жыл бұрын
I was brought up a Catholic and taught by nuns and I thought Jerry Springer The Opera was hilarious. I saw it five times.
@ulalaFrugilega5 жыл бұрын
canturgan interesting! Do you consider yourself a good catholic? Bc your upbringing-history doesn't clarify that.
@asnieres322 жыл бұрын
You were obviously well educated and can think for yourself. The people protesting a springer opera could not do a join the dots.
@chatteyj9 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for Stuart Lees show on islam! It'll be a hoot. Who agrees?
@CharlieBBoy1234511 жыл бұрын
I thought this was brilliant. A relevant documentary that manages to be both serious and funny . Gotta love Alan Moore too: I met him once, and he was just as witty, interesting, intelligent and warm (and quirky) as he seems on screen.
@Gen74863 жыл бұрын
“Jerry Springer The Opera” is more relevant in 2020 than it was then to be honest.
@CC-ff7ft2 жыл бұрын
A great little documentary by Lee. Its mental that 300 complaints has more power than 5 million viewers .
@jamesbutler6253 Жыл бұрын
To answer the question - There is nothing wrong with blasphemy. I don't accept the notion of blasphemy because I don't accept that it is possible to offend non-existent "beings" or to offend people by talking about or portraying the non-existent "beings" they believe in.
@rtpcr39697 жыл бұрын
In the entire first Christian century Jesus is not mentioned by a single Greek or Roman historian, religion scholar, politician, philosopher or poet. His name never occurs in a single inscription, and it is never found in a single piece of private correspondence. Zero! Zip references! Bart D. Ehrman
@anthonybowman34236 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Josephus near the end of the first century? I never put much stock in the Josephus and even if it was it would still be an enormous lack of reference to someone as supposedly huge as Jesus, but in the pursuit of accuracy here...
@Torthrodhel5 жыл бұрын
Really? Jesus Christ.
@pterafirma4 жыл бұрын
@@anthonybowman3423 - Josephus never mentioned him either. No copy of his history from prior to the 4th Century contains the abruptly incongruent out-of-context passage about Jesus that gets inserted centuries later by church founder Origen. It's not even a _good_ forgery.
@FlyingSpaghettiMonster20002 жыл бұрын
@@Torthrodhel underappreciated comment
@mauricecoffey95196 жыл бұрын
Beautifully observed narrative. Thank you, Stewart Lee, I've just added you to my pantheon of heroes. I hope you do shows in Dublin because I would camp out to get a ticket. I loved your monologue on Richard Hammond and thanks also for turning me on to Mr Funny himself Henning Wehn. I'm off to check your tour dates to see if you're coming to Ireland. That was a brilliant documentary. Please do more...
@mydarlinggirlrachae5 жыл бұрын
Wish he would visit Australia....while I can understand why he doesn't, I wouldn't either, its bloody awful.
@darklingeraeld-ridge79466 жыл бұрын
I was on a long coach journey recently and the man I was sitting next to informed me that he believes Jesus was perfect, the only perfect human being. So why didn't he found a better religion, if he was? If he was so perfect, why are his followers STILL contradicting each other about what he said and what we are meant to believe - and why do so many people not follow him at all? In fat, why did he found a religion whose central tenets have always been routinely lambasted by its own followers? Situations like that coach journey are terrible temptations...... tempting to quietly accept, because of the painful embarrassment of thinking out loud, utter crap, posing as goodness and moral fortitude. Praises be to Stewart Lee ! - for speaking out, barefacedly.
@aboemusic Жыл бұрын
Enjoyable and informing viewing. A touch on the unbalaced side in terms of the number of those representing religious viewpoints vs else, but that's probably what Lee was going for. These sorts of programs make you wonder 'just how many people have their worlds flipped on their heads after watching programs like these?' Hopefully that number is exponentially increasing, because it is freedom of thought (if such a thing exists) which is pretty crucial (one imagines) if a society is to move toward enlightened times.
@1pauljs6 жыл бұрын
Can't believe this was on channel 5. A reasonable look at something with no hyperbole or ridiculousness.
@FiveSigma7211 жыл бұрын
Thats the first time Ive ever seen Alan Moore crack a smile. Its beautiful seeing two of my heroes in the same room, clearly liking each others company. If you are truly religious and intelligent, isnt the only logical conclusion that the universe is run by a vain, jeallous, worship needy, vengeful smiter of a beast that you just better get onside with? I think most religious folk are just trying to buy insurance for the soul, and behave no more moraly than an athiest.
@ben_imaging10 жыл бұрын
You have the choice to follow which ever religion you please. But it is a choice and therefore should be held up for the same discussion as any other choice, be that political or philosophical.
@joefarang3 жыл бұрын
i'd like to see stu and polly toynbee talk more... i''ven heard loads of stu and allen moore before, but i get the feeling an extended section iwth PT would be quite rewarding viewing.
@quirkypurple4 жыл бұрын
To quote Hitchens. "Offence is taken, not given. "
@titteryenot45242 жыл бұрын
Or as Shakespeare said: *there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so* .
@rhaeven22 күн бұрын
Offense is both taken and given. You cannot take what someone hasn't given.
@LucaEnzo3 жыл бұрын
Problem with the Stewart Lee types is its all fair game when it comes to the kinder and softer faiths, that at most their followers will protest you with acoustic guitars and cardboard sounds But it's not OK to mock or satirize Islam, with its followers bringing knives and terrorism to the equation. Funny that huh
@richf33442 жыл бұрын
Hilarious. He has a section of his stand-up that makes jokes about Muslims and Islam, just to take the p*ss out of people like you who say that cliched nonsense 😂
@Dan_13482 жыл бұрын
@@richf3344 Did you actually watch the video? The difference was noticeable...
@kiwifruitpoo9 ай бұрын
Hard to watch this in 2023 and see the commentators who would shut you down if you suggested a woman is exclusively an adult human female.
@fusoxАй бұрын
I love Stewart, he is brilliantly intelligent .....
@MikeyC58610 жыл бұрын
It DOES feel like 1508 sometimes....
@colz2210 жыл бұрын
Does that minister's yellow shirt and jeans combo count as blasphemy?
@bluetv63863 жыл бұрын
Nah it was dyed in pear cider that’s bla-bla-bla...
@roberttaylor65773 жыл бұрын
Hari krishnas use his church hall
@ianpritchard63752 жыл бұрын
Alan Moore ... brilliant!! (as was the whole programme)
@klausgartenstiel45864 жыл бұрын
my stance is, if you decide to go to war against somebody, you better be ready to fight in that war to the bitter end.
@StoutProper4 жыл бұрын
Wait, surely if they're Christians they're a forgiving lot?
@MezMcG4 жыл бұрын
Oh, they are, riiiiight up until the moment you do something against THEM.
@justcomments10 жыл бұрын
Very thought provoking :) I remember being very surprised by the outcry about those shitty characatures, when most people I spoke to had such a level headed lack of response to such petty antagonism. We have much to fear from paranoid religious conservatives everywhere.
@BethSmyls Жыл бұрын
I love you Stewart Lee and Alan Moore. Thank you for talking sense.
@noahway76907 ай бұрын
This video has popped the balloon on how I see religion. I see how much effort I was putting toward a 'god'. In 2024.
@medalion13905 ай бұрын
Are you just done with organised religion or the concept of a god in general?
@Woltato9 жыл бұрын
Alan Moore - Worshipper of Glycon. Seems like a nutter but no more crazy than Christians who believe that virgins have babies and that Dead people come back to life or Muslims who believe in flying horses. All religions are mad, it's just that some more established religions have been around for longer and are therefore regarded as respectable even though they're all completely loony.
@ZER0--9 жыл бұрын
+Woltato I think you'll find that Alan Moore has his tongue firmly in his cheek in regard to believing in Glycon. He also wrote graphic novels about Peter Pan, Alice (of Wonderland) and tinkerbell, having sex together.
@Woltato9 жыл бұрын
Paul L The point I was making is that his beliefs, whether tongue in cheek or not, are no more crazy than those of the established religions. I find Muslims and Christians amusing when they start talking about all the mad shit they believe in.
@MrMoonman30008 жыл бұрын
+Woltato What really makes it funny, is the cult of Glycon is infamously known as having been a hoax. The cult actually used a puppet. So, Alan is really making a statement about religious belief as all being hoaxes. Having seen documentaries, interviews, and read his work, it makes perfect sense for Alan to claim he is worshiping Glycon.
@paologeminiani8 жыл бұрын
+Woltato You think you are so smart...But you can´t prove that miracles don´t happen...So there is nothing illogical in believing in the vergin conception of Mary if God exists....The existence of God is the only logical explaination to the origin of the universe....Tell me who has the most irrational answer ? You believe that everything came out of nothing ,,,,,
@MrMoonman30008 жыл бұрын
Paolo Geminiani Whahahahahahahahahaaa!
@shitshynonofuck4 жыл бұрын
Count Duckula has let himself go
@WeAreDumbartonFC4 жыл бұрын
Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ has let himself go
@itchyfeet413 жыл бұрын
Concerns about religious fundamentalism in the US has not aged well.
@lexwoodstevens7287 Жыл бұрын
An aunt of mine died and was revived after a few minutes. She had the wits scared out of her because she thought she had gone to hell and talked for months about how bad her near death experience in hell had been. In her words, insufferably hot and uncomfortable. Eventually, in an attempt to shut her up she was challenged to say something positive. Her response was "the catering was excellent, the devilled eggs were delicious"
@OutofDarkness_jik Жыл бұрын
Humorous at the end of your comment, but leading up to it, a truth which many other people are reported to have witnessed. I was never taught the Gospel of Jesus Christ sitting in a CofE church all the way through to my mid-teens. However, living in the U.S. since age 25, now 52, I found Christ at 38, he delivered me from 20 years of alcohol that began in the UK, and I have never been so happy being born again. It's not an American religious fanaticism. It is the UK that is spiritually super-cold and walking into the gates of hell by itself.... It needs a big revival like the one in Wales. The average person, me included, was raised to believe that you'll get into heaven if you don't do anything bad. You're a good person, you won't go to hell. Such utter rubbish and the height of ignorance of parents and others that think they know it all, being handed down the same mistruths down the years from older generations. And so it repeats. The devil is in the church all over the world, and that's IF you ever get to one. He doesn't have to work on you if you're already in the pubs and the clubs. He just never wants you to find out the TRUTH that you need to confess Jesus as your Lord, believe God raised Him from the dead, for you to be saved. Then tell everyone else. Pray for the sick, raise the dead. This is the commandments of our Lord. Mark chapter 16. We also need a relationship with Christ, see John chapter 15. Else he will tell us in that day, I never knew you, depart from me. The altar is not a ticket to heaven. It is the beginning of a commitment of a relationship with the one who loved you while you were still a sinner, and one who didn't deserve to die for you, so that you would live eternally. The devil os pulling out all the stops to try to prevent humanity from finding out the truth. See 2 Corinthians 4:4. In my case at least, he succeeded, until I was 38 when Jesus saved me before it was too late.
@SpecificallyDanielSwan7 жыл бұрын
You had me at 'divs'.
@tetryst5 жыл бұрын
Christianity has really let itself go
@Raven-Creations Жыл бұрын
Ten years on, and this is even more relevant. I find it obscene that people, with absolutely zero evidence that there is any substance behind their religion, should be allowed to impose their beliefs on others, whether that be through religious indoctrination of children, or by crying foul and persecuting anyone who speaks out about them. If you want to criticise us for besmirching your deity, or your religious organisation, you need to first show us evidence of the existence of your deity, and then show us that the perceived slander was untruthful. I frequently get into discussions with Christian fundamentalists, who proclaim that the Bible is proof of God's existence. When asked how they know that the Bible is the word of God, they say "it says so in the Bible". Clearly these people have had a religious lobotomy. They are incapable of logical thought. They couldn't spot a circular argument if it were tied around their necks. Even if they managed to produce some incontrovertible evidence that God exists, I would still campaign against his worship. According to his own book, he's instigated mass genocide, both by his own hand, and by commanding his followers to commit it. He's fine with slavery, raping and pillaging, kidnapping enemies' girls for sex slaves, and treating women as property. He's capricious, unreliable, jealous, contradictory, and insecure. He ruined every aspect of Job's life, including killing his wife, all for a bet with the Devil. He sent plagues on the Egyptians, including famine, and killing their first born children, not because the Pharaoh wouldn't let the Israelites leave, but because God himself "hardened the heart" of the Pharaoh so that he wouldn't (not that there's any evidence of Israelites ever being slaves in Egypt). It's not just the Old Testament. Jesus himself cursed a tree for not bearing fruit out of season. The guy who supposedly rewrote the covenant with God is just like a petulant, spoiled brat. The god of the Bible is utterly despicable, and does not deserve to be worshipped any more than any other megalomaniacal tyrant. If you consider that blasphemous, show me the evidence to prove your god exists, and that what I wrote is incorrect (you might want to read Exodus and Job first), or shut up.
@crypticTV2 жыл бұрын
2:38 paradise lost 5:43 isn't 1508 7:30 god's no 8:00 life of Brian Christian 8:39 rashdi Muslim 9:15 Behzti Sikh 9:32 against free speech 10:33 race to be offended. Fatwa joke 11:24 manufactured protest 12:07 Danish cartoon cycling helmet 13:40 against religious protection 14:40 no right to be not offended 14:52 exception 16:07 Islam push for protection 18:40 BBC protection of religion 19:15 religious school division 20:15 divine right rather than electorate 21:19 jokes about beliefs democratic truth 22:15 protestants Vs Catholic 22:30 offense Vs provocation for the sake of it 22:53 new communities should adapt 23:10 24:12 legitimate religions 23:58 Iraq war 26:25 Paris Hilton 27:55 religious fundamentalism from religious revivalism 80 years ago 28:26 USA religion politics 29:52 faith schools - selection bias 31:35 34:08 religion taught as facts in school 32:50 USA George Bush religious loony 33:00 no secular school 33:40 politics use religion 34:45 Christian against Hinduism 35:16 36:05 religious taught in schools good Vs bad 35:32 accused of blasphemy 36:40 open debate free speech 38:00 beliefs not obstruction to dialogue Monty python
@d_ruggs2 жыл бұрын
omg, you had some spare time
@WORKERS.DREADNOUGHT4 жыл бұрын
We only need a blasphemy law cos god has really let himself go...
@deaddocreallydeaddoc52449 ай бұрын
The point of the Danish Cartoons was to expose the intolerance of Islam. The point is the question of whether it is desirable or even safe to have such people in your country, in the West. The response by some Christians that they, too, ought to be allowed to be outraged and attack such people and groups as might lampoon their silly religions, is outstanding proof of the sort of retrograde effect of religious belief on civilization.
@garrywolfe60772 жыл бұрын
Surely having faith involves listening to all view points, experiencing everything and still believing? Sheltering from, or censoring, anything that you fear might question belief is exactly that - fear - not faith. The truly faithful do not need to be sheltered, can be open to the opinions of others and also enjoy a good laugh without felling threatened in their faith - because that is true faith. I loved the comment that God does not need to be protected and totally agree - faith should be exactly the same. I am, of course, not condoning prejudice or any form of racial or spiritual bigotry but that's not what this debate was about.
@lavenderandred_7 жыл бұрын
"Whether you think of the people behind me as hysterical bigots, or well-intentioned fools, they are none the less, divs"
@CBL593H8 жыл бұрын
Mr Renfrew is excellent.
@sonofliberty12 жыл бұрын
Stewart is one of my favourite 'content providers' along with Wes Anderson and PT Anderson. My favourite of all the Anderson twins. I like that Stewart has featured Alan Moore and Chris Morris in his shows as well. It's a shame Bridget Christie isn't more prominent but I guess comedy is a difficult game for women and talent doesn't seem to count.
@chriscleary7762 Жыл бұрын
A sensitive subject handled well here, with a compassion and intellect I didn't expect from Ratko Mladic. Thank you Ratko.
@dannycheesums10 жыл бұрын
Welcome to this avenue of trees, where I have all of my most profound thoughts! Fucking love it!
@chelseagas26913 жыл бұрын
"Bastions of free speech, The Guardian". Funniest part of the whole thing 🤣😂
@kieronmcnulty61773 жыл бұрын
Their tremendous and prolonged support for Julian Assange being the greatest example of this bastion
@peteconrad20772 жыл бұрын
Well they’re the only truly independent newspaper in the uk. So, you know, facts and all that.
@thevo41002 жыл бұрын
@@peteconrad2077 They are funded by Open Democracy and the Gates Foundation. If they had to survive on sales and ad revenue they wouldn't exist. It isn't independent in the slightest.
@peteconrad20772 жыл бұрын
@@thevo4100 they are funded by sales and thousands of donors. The ones you mentioned are amongst the larger ones but they exercise no control over the paper and do not contribute a controlling amount. Contrast that with the billionaire owned right wing rage that you read. They’re independent in every meaningful way, especially free for the bigoted stupidity of fat right billionaires.
@thevo41002 жыл бұрын
@@peteconrad2077 How do you know what control their donors exert? Why are they giving them money? Out of kindness? Why not say the same for other papers? Because left good, right bad? I assume that's the depth of the reasoning here.
@MrLtia12344 ай бұрын
28:34 - Alan Moore had a valid serious point here in terms of the way things have gone. The recent good news is it didn't work.
@Ocelot19623 жыл бұрын
I understand the difficulty finding gainful employment very well, Adam. It's been rough, but I am working full time teaching in Beijing. That's right, Beijing. And my anxiety was every bit as bad if not worse than yours. Back in 2004 my panic disorder got so bad I couldn't even leave my home. Hiding my Asperger's can be a burden at times. I'm a known oddball who doesn't like to go out and socialise. But overall I'm handling it ok. Let me share you my trick. Like you now, I couldn't handle constant change. The way I got a grip on it was to to make constant change my normal. I know that sounds daft, but I swear it worked. I haven't had a panic attack in over 10 years.
@BodyInFlight19834 жыл бұрын
I'd give my left crucifix to be a fly on the wall in that Alan Moore and Stuart Lee chat.
@feetunes4 жыл бұрын
Maltese fly?
@BodyInFlight19834 жыл бұрын
David Fee They are lighter than ordinary flies.
@japeking18 жыл бұрын
Thank you...that was lovely ....and frightening. Sometime in the 60's ( I think ) someone wrote a play about the lifeboat rescues from a sinking ship of Whitby. The lifeboat crew , going back into the storm for about the 4th or 5th time were drunk and most drowned when the lifeboat overturned. 150 years after the event ( about ) and the playwright was driven from Whitby by death threats....... just saying that it isn't only religion that inspires irrational hatred.
@Neil_MALTHUS2 жыл бұрын
There will always be exceptions where nutters and their nutty ways are concerned. That said, it IS mostly religion / right wing scum to be found at the bottom of that particular barrel. Capitalism devised religion and saw how the poor lapped it up. And that's why pretty much every government around the world loves it and the system is based on it.
@Malt4542 жыл бұрын
No, it isn't only religion that inspires irrational hatred - but it is the primary force that attempts to make it look rational and culturally acceptable. You can get far more people to agree that driving the playwright out of Whitby was crazy than you can get to agree that killing a cartoonist for drawing Muhammad is wrong.
@shepja873 жыл бұрын
"When religions embody immorality and irrationality, they must be open to criticism" ^^^THIS^^^
@heyimrobee10 жыл бұрын
Great episode, thanks for sharing it!
@MichaelGoldenberg10 жыл бұрын
I love Stewart Lee and find all this right-wing, fundamentalist garbage impossible to take seriously. But I realize that it IS serious and that these folks are seriously dangerous to functional democratic societies.
@kildogery2 жыл бұрын
7 years later and it's all going to absolute shit.
@wesleyashworth50612 жыл бұрын
@@kildogery 7 years later and the people protesting are the “woke” left ready to take offence at the drop of a hat
@kildogery2 жыл бұрын
@@wesleyashworth5061 it's health and safety gone mad!
@wesleyashworth50612 жыл бұрын
@@kildogery hehe
@peteconrad20772 жыл бұрын
@@wesleyashworth5061 and then you woke up.
@rallokkcaz4 жыл бұрын
Lol I was watching The Day Today and this came on after an episode, and I thought I was still watching it. Holy fuckz
@elena163504 жыл бұрын
It’s up to the lawmakers to abolish religion, but lawmakers don’t want a society that sifts out confusion, otherwise logical thinking would enter, leaving no room for anything but straight forward thinking, which would never do as confusion is a tool for lawmakers to blind people, to introduce behaviour that denies understanding. When understanding is paramount in society, stupid behaviour has no refuge.
@LukeMcGuireoides3 жыл бұрын
It was so great to see Alan Moore appear in this. Hes such a brilliant effing writer.
@ulalaFrugilega5 жыл бұрын
Somewhat later, less angry: schools should teach ethics, - a history of all religions and philosophy. All schools, all pupils.
@sofa-lofa42413 жыл бұрын
Same view here, I went to a UK state school, we were forced to learn religious education the Church of England way, from years 1 - 3, I opted out (backed up from a letter from my parents) and spent that lesson in the library self learning about all religions, I'm not special or clever, but possibly more rounded than most in this area, I would urge everyone to do the same, I think religious tolerance is key.... Not fighting for one corner
@ulalaFrugilega3 жыл бұрын
@@sofa-lofa4241 During your first 3 school-years you spent hours reading books on religion in the school library? That is impressive indeed!