Being Australian I don't know a lot of the pitchers but that pitcher looked awesome. Is he won of the legend's of the game.

Very much

6 pitches six balls..😅😅😅😅😅😅

He's the best pitcher ever. No question about it.

@@Tigertime.-fj1soI’m an Aussie too, but can tell you these two are both legends of the game, although Pete Rose comes with a lot of controversy that has prevented him from being inducted into Baseball’s Hall of Fame.

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Enormous? Like letters to ankles and within the plate? That's baseball, dude. Not this modern run-generating zone.

Welcome to the good ole days! I commend the umpire. Umpires are there to get outs, not safe calls. 😂

@E M your two cents have been noted...

It really is 🔥

There was also 8 walks, so his obp was even better. He knew how to work the count against Ryan until he found a hittable pitch or 4 balls.

@@Phil-ui4tm I cant even imagine , way to much heat. Incredible they can think about the strike zone with lazer beams coming at you.

He hit .296 Lifetime against Ryan . Hitting that is a tremendous feat in itself. .406 up to that point in time was tremendous. Koufax is a different story. A mere .175 or so.

Ty Cobb hit .366 lifetime against everybody. Charlie Hustle hit all of .303.

@@rizwanarasheed I was thinking the same thing So much better.

@@rizwanarasheed I came here to say the same thing!

I like the big empty space behind the plate.

No talk of his exit velocity or launch angle. Baseball used to be so much fun to watch. Now it’s a battle of which team can get more solo homeruns than the other. They are lying to us when they say hitting got average is out because it’s too hard to move runners station to station with modern pitchers. Total BS. The theory that guys are throwing harder today than they used to is because they measure the speed of the pitch closer to when it’s released than home plate, where it used to be measured.

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That is awesome

Probably should have been

That first pitch should've been a strike

Absolutely. The plate grew by 2" on that 3-2 pitch.

@@ottohesslein3230 it did 😆

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Yess

Oh yeah! None like him… ever!

I am 71 he eas college football and what ever he announced. He was the GOAT.

Hold on to your horses.

@jaketanner20001 definitely the GOAT 🐐

@@rickwelch8464 i remember collecting baseball at maybe 7 or 8 and thinking this is so unfair. The reds have all the all stars. Big red machine was incredible. And people forget guys like george foster...a monster!

@mbrum3230 Yes mbrum , I totally agree !!! Foster was a beast !!! In those days , he and Bench were really about all in the way of " long ball " hitters , the Reds really had.. I mean the other guys could hit for power also , so don't get me wrong, but not consistently , or in clutch. I remember watching them pitching to Bench once , and they had lost him in the count , so they decided to put him on. We'll, ole Johnny wasn't having any of it lol.. he stepped up and out over home plate ( I'm sure in today's and maybe then as well rules, were no doubt broken lol ) and slapped the ball over the right corner field, for a 3 run homer, that won the game for them lol... you don't forget those games and the players, who played them..!!! Man how I loved my Big Red Machine bk then , and still do today..I'm 67 and I have Topps and other name brand cards from the early 60's, that have never been touched. Have all the " Big Red Machine " rookie cards...lol. anyway, my best memories of baseball, without a doubt...!!! Hagd my friend, and thank you for bringing back some of my best memories, EVER..! 😀😀

​@@Jerry-ej3cmi was actually a philly kid so when we got rose i went from hating him to loving him. Great foster quote when questioned one time about corked bats "i dont have cork in my bat i have steel in my arms"

@@Jerry-ej3cmNothing will ever touch the talent or the memories of the Big Red Machine. Griffey, Jr. and Larkin were close in the 2000s, but by then Larkin was pretty much done. There are some young power hitters coming up through the pipeline. Maybe if they can pair that with these two good young arms, and a third with the Dayton Dragons, maybe there’s some hope for the Reds to rise to prominence again yet.

In Detroit back then there was only 1 “Game of the Week” where you could see other markets. We were able to catch the Expos on a weak signal all the way from Montreal Canada. The NL and AL didn’t play each other back then until WS. Wild days.

@@tyetyson4611 nah Pete's a jabroni. He's a disgrace for what he did. Gambling and such.

Agreed

Agreed

He got what he had coming

I think there is way more to the story and you hardly hear anyone talk about it. They just dismiss him as the guy that bet on baseball

Than tell him to apologize to MLB and mean it, the commissioner told him to apologize but he wouldn't do it

Why did he put so much effort pitching around a singles hitter?

@@cifey why? Cause Peter Rose is one of the best hitters of all time. Pete was a Natural Wizard when he got on that Field.

Pete gave the ump a wink to call it a strike cause he bet himself Nolan would k him , Charlie Hustle got a pay day on that at bat

​@@cifeyPride? Two masters of the game. Anything less than a K would have been a disappointment to Ryan.

Ryan kept hitting his spot.

Please tell me you’re joking, or trolling

@@GabrielEddy Uh, no.

Craig Grebeck and Ozzie Guillen liked him a lot, too. They weren't home run hitters by any means, but they hit back-to-back homers off of Ryan.

I'm not sure I would put Nolan even in the top 20 but at least in the top 50

Facing the greatest hitter.....epic

@@davemoskot1776 can't do that, It's not Ryan's fault that he thru pure gasoline!!! I love to watch these old clips.. MANO A MANO!!

Definitely all in all Greatness

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Except that *Dave Stieb* was better, and could have struck out Pete Rose with only 3 pitches if they had ever met. (Always gonna get that out there because MLB did their best to hide him from American fans.)

@@taekwondotime Sure, sure he could 😂

@@Slinger43 Dave Stieb was so good he could have struck out Pete Rose with only 2 pitches instead of the usual 3. 😇

Yes fun ro watch

For sure. I witnessed JR Richard pitch in person as a kid at the Astrodome back 1979. Only pitcher that could match Ryan's velocity IMO

Agreed. I saw Nolan pitch several times as a kid in the 90s with the Rangers. We would show up expecting to see a no-hitter every time.

@@meandeanb And he was in his 40s doing that. GOAT

​@@blackflag4093 now that would have been something. I'd like to have been alive to see him pitch.

Drawing 8 walks from the stud Ryan. Best hitter all time. Best pitcher all time.

All the repercussions of candyassing these modern pitchers made the game unwatchable for me. Ryan, Pedro, Maddox, Clemons, Morris...Those were men.

Your watching at an angle.

Far from being best pitcher all time.

The last time a pitcher threw and won a complete game during the world series did so on two days rest.

Exactly

He definitely is in the hall of fame in my book!!!

Didn't it say .412?

Yes but it was also before Ryan was at the top of his game too.

100% agree with your assessment that Pete Rose was Mr. Baseball. He hasn't played the game in over 30 years but if you mention Charlie Hustle to any baseball fan, they will know you mean PR. I disagree about him being in the HoF. We are all sinners. The Hall should be about baseball, scars and all.

Should 💯 % be in H.O.F.

Pete Rose should be in the hall of fame hands down no argument from anyone. The baseball writers association is a joke. Time to rely on the actual players to vote players in not a bunch of nerds who never knew how to play baseball to begin with.

@@Jeff-66 Agreed. Wow, hey isn't Bonds in the hall? Wait a sec..., so being dirty ( roids') isn't a bad as gambling🤔🤔🤔!?!

Gambling is bad, for the game. With that being said, it was never proven Rose bet to lose, only to win. All-in-all, it's not nearly as bad as, PEDs.

I love keith jackson but mel allen was my all time favorite

Only if Angel Hernandez would’ve been calling balls and strikes

All three of those called strikes were balls

Angel Hernandez calling balls and strikes?

Yes Indeed 💯 Agreed & I totally forgot that Keith called baseball. I was sure every Saturday afternoon I could count on Mr. Jackson would be calling the Main College Football Game in ABC, usually at high noon here in California, when I was attending UCLA I would try & be at the game usually, but watching Mr. Jackson call the NCAA Football Games, Luuuuved My Saturdays🏈🏈👏👏

Love Nolan 🔥

Except maybe the first ball lmao

love your response totally agree with both assessments

That's the widest plate ever. Those 3 strikes were 2 inches off the corner. However 1) that's a great pitcher that knows where the umps strike zone is. 2) Pete knows his strike zone and if he didn't swing it wasn't a strike. That being said pete knows better, that was called a strike at least once this at bat so it ain't a strike but you gotta swing anyway. Love the cut up 2 greats.

I thought the first pitch was a strike. And when you have 2 strikes on you, you're taught to swing at something that close... Ball or strike, you gotta use the bat. Pete looked like he wanted to walk.

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Killer....Pete didn't even attempt to swing...bye bye😂😂😂

But never won a Cy Young in 27 seasons and also holds the records for Walks

@@jeanluc1313 He's got the league record in strikeouts, a .524 winning percentage, and a World Series Champion. Ryan filled stadiums. Like Babe Ruth did - who led the league in home runs and strikeouts as a batter. Ryan and Ruth had a charisma that few players ever had or will have.

@@MichaelBoyd-eq5ts Exactly. Most career strikeouts, which everyone knows. Besides the K’s and winning 300 games (324 - he also lost 292), he was never the best pitcher in any years he pitched. We’re talking about accomplishing things that matter, not filling stadiums. And don’t compare Ryan to Ruth 😅 Ruth was one of the greatest players of all time. Ryan doesn’t even crack the top-25 pitchers of all-time. And his WS was as a 22 year-old relief pitcher who appeared in 25 games for the Miracle Mets - hardly adds much to the résumé.

Dude was nuts

Phenom does the man absolutely no justice. Not a bad boxer either. The head lock and numerous upper cuts were beyond epic.

His coaches overused him. He wasn’t even 45, and he had already thrown 5000 innings. No wonder he couldn’t reach 100mph!

@Brain Mistrust So... over 320 victories. Over 5700 strikeouts. And EIGHT!! No Hitters don't measure up for you? You're all hung up on 100 mph..? Hope I just completely missed your sarcasm...

@@wisecracker1814 you definitely missed my sarcasm. 😁

Amen to that. 😊

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Now that’s hilarious. I agree with you 100%.

😂😂😂😂😂 he didn’t see them

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See my comment above 😂!

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Yep

Perhaps the UMPIRE was betting on the game, too!

@@davidharrison3711 or he had a plane to catch.

3-2 count anything close gets called a strike. Been that way since T ball

T-ball doesn't have a pitcher!

Yes he did Rose was amazing

@@FLoCk3r They dont make ball players like ol Charlie Hustle anymore

Depends which team he beted on

The greatest player in the game today takes that same intensity into every at bat and every pitch thrown. When Shohei walked in the WBC final, he yelled out, releasing his intense focus so that he could shift his focus to running the bases. He does the same thing when striking out a batter. At the same time, he tips his cap if he hits a batter and is the most polite player on the field, compromising not a single ounce of his competitiveness. He can run faster, hit farther, and throw harder than 99% who ever played the game. UNREAL!

All the greats had that consistent 100% intensity on every pitch, shot, throw, or whatever. Whether it’s Rose, Jack Nicklaus, Michael Jordan, Jimmy Connors, etc, etc.

I agree, but that last pitch was a ball

Very true 👍

I know right 😆

Crazy right 😆

Yet a consistent strike zone.

It was absurd. Rose right not to swing. All balls.

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It's called editing

No pitch clock necessary!

I get the point but just to clarify this video looks edited.

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And us poor folks could afford to go to.

You ain't kidding. $2 cheap seats . $2 Dodger dogs​, $1 bag of peanuts, Lucky enough to see both play the game. @@aaron-dd5zr

Absolutely

A true statement l

Amazing that one isn't in the hall

Yup, it's Keith Jackson with Bob Uecker.

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Yes he was

Five days rest and a pitch count, that's why you rarely see 20 game winners like you did in the Ryan era

Most rotations were 4 man back then

Men were tougher.

@@enigma9971 much tougher, their prima-donnas today, fucking little league pitcher's making tens of millions of dollars to try and pitch 6 innings, like, WTF!

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Not a bad favorite player

I'm a St. Louis boy, born n raised since 1974 and as big as the Cardinals are here it was Nolan Ryan who captured my imagine. He was my favorite by 1982 and I modeled my wind-up after his as I pitched until my high school years. Pete Rose was my favorite non-pitcher for how he played the game. 🐢

....I have his Mets rookie card in mint condition

I’m with U I saw him once by chance. Went to see him pitch against the tigers with the Church my family attended. And by chance, I mean I was dollar short but my Sunday School Teacher took pity on me (he knew why) & “make it ok”. Well, needless to say Nolan Ryan throws a NO HITTER. What N unbelievable talent. Many Blessings All 🙏🇺🇸

First game I ever saw in person was watching him take a no-no into the 8th inning.

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Vin Scully

Vin Scully. The greatest. IMO

Keith Jackson for football Vin Skully for baseball Dave Niehaus and Harry Caray to get drunk with.

Whoa, nelly!😂😂😂

He is. Wow so fun to watch

Stats aside. The attitude alone makes him a legend. Lol

@@playdiscgolf1546 yes it would 🔥

Yeah Nolan Ryan's a legend what about Pete Rose that 406 against Nolan Ryan that is a legend killer

Ryan got shelled in this game. 7 runs in 5 innings. Joe Niekro was their best pitcher that year.

I watched it as a 12 year old Philly kid. The previous several years the Phils had come up short against LA in the playoffs. Yes, was full of drama and a lot of the greatest players of the era. Every game was tight. Every at-bat mattered. Schmidt, Bowa, Matthews, Boone, McGraw, Rose. A lot of the greatest names on the Phils' all time roster. So much talent.

I'm thinking a later NLCS with the Astros vs Mets in 1986. Phew!

1981 NLCS LA Dodgers Vs Montreal Expos. Best of 5. A won the series 3-2. Game 5 ninth inning home run by LA won the series. Expos were very close to going to the World Series

No joke 🔥

@@FLoCk3r It is a joke that you think this guy belongs in Hall of Fame

@VA24541 it's a joke you don't now a days everyone is betting on sports and it's completely ok. Dudes stats alone should put him in there

Definitely should be in the HOF

@@StreakingTiger same here. I always went headfirst because of Pete and many times into home. I also loved to dragbunt down the first base line and dive into first, not slide, dive. Just like Charlie Hustle.

Very good 👍

Absolutely!

Correction: four of the best! The analyst alongside Keith Jackson was one of the all-time greatest pitchers in Don (Big "D") Drysdale. The Dodgers great went between working ABC sports and calling the California Angels (before a stint with the Chicago White Sox) then coming back home to L.A. R.I.H. Big D.

if he admits what he did was wrong asks for forgiveness

@@williamdelong4861 I'm thinking he's done this. It's been 30 yrs but I seem to remember some kind of news deal. LoL if it was that important I would look it up

Me too😅😅

He wouldn’t have broken the hit record if he had been unable to write himself into the lineup.

He's already done this decades ago ​@@williamdelong4861

Me too

Great comment 👍 thanks

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Loved him as a player except against my dodgers, but he was a shitty human being

Yes, but he bet to WIN.......BIG difference!

Rose committed a flagrant violation to the game, should he be let in the hall to make it the hall of shame, I rather see shoeless get in, he seemed ignorant of what he got into

He is still Great. He did those actions after being a Baseball player. So he is a Hall of Famer for how he played.

Ryan was good but he’s not a top ten pitcher of all time and Rose is nowhere near top ten.

@TerryThomas-vl6xe love this comment thanks for sharing 👍!

Right lol

Lloyd Mclendon would dig out the plate and take it! lmao

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That was two strikes and five balls. Bonds, Rose and Clemons not in the Hall makes a mockery of baseball.

​@@barrymiller99 Bonds doesn't belong. Look at his stats and build before steroids.

If ABC had it, Jackson called it. Wide World of Sports, some NBA with Bill Russell, and even a couple Indy 500s and and stock car races. And a bunch of Olympics...heck, in 72, he called a Mark Spitz race, then the next day was doing news reports about the massacre there in Munich....and in no way felt out of place in a non-sports role. The man was incredible.

Yup ...

@@pullt Yes, I remember the 1972 Olympics all too well. With Jim McKay, they were an awesome duo!

He's a Haus

@@davidharrison3711 Yeah, McKay was incredible, too. Not that any sports announcer would want the opportunity to step into that scenario, but few would have had the gravitas to approach those two...and none would have been better. Feels icky to write "opportunity" and "better", but I'm hoping the tenor of my thoughts come through. Then again, I'm no McKay or Jackson.

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Nah, it’s playoffs....

​@jogendron6320 you got me there bro.

Nope Pete knew the game...blown out😅😅😅

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It looks funny today, of course. View history through the context of the time, instead of through a modern lens. But seriously...those are some ugly ass unis😄

@@hegemonycricket2182 Good point. I was a product designer. I know these things. But traditional never fails when it comes to sports uniforms. That's why Alabama always looks good. That's why Auburn makes orange and blue look better than anybody in America for fifty years. That pattern was a fad. Following fads is foolish and short sighted.

@@tomjones4318 Yep. Trends and fads come and go, but there are some things that stand the test of time.

@@hegemonycricket2182 Exactly. Those uniforms were probly a marketing gimmick maybe got some short lived benefits. To be fair Astros wanted a modern look I get that. It's not easy.

Definitely a wonderful match up I hope we have this again

Best part? Both were PEDs free, ya hear that David Ortiz and Roger Clemens?

@@FLoCk3r the only thing that I remember where people got excited Flock was when Clemens was facing Josebag Canseco in a playoff game Oakland against Boston, but big difference, Josebag was on the roids, Clemens was not at that time, but like a fool he started on them later in his career and that's why he's not in the Hof

Do you guys even watch today's game? Shohei vs Trout?

@@josephsimmons9241 I don't, too many Prima Donna's and it's consumed by greed, owner's, agent's, player's, Mike Trout is a great hitter, but it's overall a boring game to watch now

He should be in there that's for sure

Absolutely. And Bonds/Clemens

Of all sports HOFs MLB has the most rigorous criteria. Many members never played the game (owners, coaches broadcasters etc) one key area where Rose fails is integrity. He lied about his gambling for 14 years. His ‘75 championship ring and the bat he used for breaking Cobb’s hits record were sold to pay gambling debts. This video shows the chickens#*t stance he used to give pitchers a smaller strike zone. The Chicago Black Sox and gambling nearly killed the game. Pretty sure he was juiced towards the end of his playing career and I’m not talking about booz.

​@@cq42lz Big Poppy juiced, The Astro's were allowed to keep their World Series title the year they cheated.

There isn’t a steroid in existence that will help you hit a 100mph fastball. Barry Bonds is in the top 5-10 best players of all time conversation. It’s absolutely shameful that he isn’t in the Hall of Fame

Great matchup! Appreciate the kinds words!

Great story thanks for sharing!

Nolan was 🔥

Astros had pretty good team

Overrated. If he was on then he was unhittable. Many times he was not on.

@@AlphanumericCharacters not true. He pitched a ton of innings and had real good era seasons., he just wasnt always on good teams. I wouldnt put him in my top 5 but he was great pitcher.

@@AlphanumericCharacters one year he had 2.76 era and his record was 8 wins and 16 losses. Thats his fault? Come on. Ridiculous