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Mono all the way, you've made me a believer.

Great information. Thank you. QUESTION: Can you please test the strength of the line itself, essentially confirming that the line is breaking at the weight it’s advertised? Thanks!

Liked and subscribed because of the scientific approach. I was shocked that dry performed better then wet

I have always used Canoeman without any issues. I will look into the Non Slip, very interesting.

Salt Strong staff takes the actual science of fishing seriously, and brings it to the fishing public. Great work! (as always). Stay Salt Strong..

Never get tired of line and knot comparisons, :) I am completely ate up with anything water, boat or fishing related.

background: raised in SE Florida and Big Pine Key, fishing for snook from mid-1960's. I've heard these arguments over and over, etc. I think you're "picking nits" for in-shore fishing. I was telling my wife that most in-shore, open faced spinning reels can't pull 13 pounds without the drag letting off. She's also an avid and very experienced snook fisherman. So, I filled a bucket with water to weigh 13 pounds. I hooked up to the reel spool and cranked down on the drag, and cranked down on the drag. At no time could I pick up that 13 pounds. I was using a Shimano 4000 and a Pflueger 3000 weight reels with 15 pound braid and 20 pound leader. I use these reels commonly for snook, redfish, and trout, and others. I have used the rapala knot or non-slip loop, but commonly use a canoeman loop and have never had it fail, as long as it "clicks" when I set it. Past tests show that I use drag in the 5-8 pound range and a bit over if the snook is "headed for the barn"....rod low and at about 10-20 degrees off the fish...butt of the rod, so to speak. Even with drag from water, I doubt line tension ever gets enough to break the knot. If it does, maybe I'll loose the fish. Better that than my gear. Like you, I check my leader and knots often.

Wow, thank you for this. The real eye-opener for me is the wet vs dry cinch. Could we have been wrong all this time? Looks like it! Bananas!

I’ve used the Canoe Man Loop knot for decades, this was very helpful, and always Spit on it haha

Thanks for the direct short report!! Much better than the loooooong videos Good Stuff!

Learn something new every day, like my uncle says R.I.P. going back to mono. Have a new knot to practice, just started using the uni-knot. Can't wait till I become a member.

I wish you would an old salt water line Maxima mono & flora in one test. I have used Maxima Line even when fishing in Pro tournaments. Try what ever knot you would like to try. Thanks Lamar

Were the mono and Fluro the same diameters in the test? Have seen before that it’s the line diameters that are more important than manufacturer’s # test numbers as these can be for marketing rather than actual.

i cant find any vids of the non slip knot vs the perfect no slip knot i will have to try it out today my self.

Wow! One of your best and most useful videos! Those results are surprising. In Jax I don’t see the value of flouro lines at all and don’t use them. The wet vs dry was surprising though. Been a Canoeman user but I think your converting me to non slip.

Like the quick tutorials and the data great video

This is great. I just learning the canoe man and practiced it with 50lb braid. I couldn’t get it to stay tied when i got out on my boat and tied it using Floro...mystery solved! Well done

As a scientist, I sooooo appreciate you bringing science to this field. Good job!

I use the non-slip on all my hard baits. Great comparison. By the way Luke where are your safety Glasses. HAHA

Wow, very interesting indeed. The only thing difference is that I was never sold on wetting the line to begin with so never have. But, tell you what, Ande is where it’s at now....The fact that you took that time to check the difference convinces me.

Good to know, got right knot but will discontinue fluro on finishing spool, will pass on info, many thanks, Steel Head trout NZ 👍

I really appreciate these kinds of videos 👍 keep the info coming

Nice video, keep doing these test please! from the abrasion testing I’ve been doing, ande mono has the lead even among mono copolymers

This quantifies what I saw when I tried fluorocarbon. Knots failing.

Great video! What also struck me here is that the breaking point is less than the line strength, whereas with a lot of your braid tests, the breaking point is often above the listed line strength. Does this apply to the other knots also, or only loop knots?

Thanks for this i would love you to test lefty's loop. Which we know as a granny knot then a clinch knot and taking the line through the granny knot for the clinch

When you refer to breaking strength, where is the line breaking or is the knot untying? Also, I think it would be interesting to compare the strength of a dry-tied knot before and after submerging in water. The whole notion of a difference in strength seems a moot point once you cast a lure in the water.

Do you think testing this underwater would make any difference?

Try a copolymer like P-line Flouroclear. Benefits of both worlds. Or like the one fella said Flouroshield. It's very affordable compared to straight flouro. Might offer some advantage. Anyway love the videos from the Salt Strong crew, thanks for the info yall provide.

I would love to see how triple surgeon's loop knot performs in this comparison

Thanks...

Very nice experiments and video!!

Thanks for the tests! I'm really amazed how much weaker both of those knots are to the pound rating of these lines. i figured on double lining the slip loop knot for now on...it's way beefier that way...it's probably over kill, but i rather be safe than losing the fish of a lifetime.

Can. you guys do a test of the double figure 8 loop knot vs the nonslip loop and the perfection loop knot?

Rut row. For the canoe man not I make one loop and then the second loop and I go through the first loop with the second loop then the tag end through that second loop and cinch it down. The line will cut into my hand before breaking what kind of knot did I make?

I don't know if you will respond to my question but here it is. What abrasion resistance, won't that be an variable in the equation of your testing? If no response then I apologize for wasting your time. Have a good day!

Great test!

There is a problem with your saliva vs. dry test. In your test, both knots have not been submerged in the water, so 1 is dry during the test, and one is wet. When you're fishing, both are wet. I have a feeling you would see almost no difference at all between the lubricated and non-lubricated knots in terms of strength after both have been submerged in the water.

Try Maxima Mono & Flora. I believe the answers on either will shock people who fish fresh or salt water. Save everyone a lot of money.

Thank you....

Fluorocarbon has always been a pain for knot tying. But I think the reason to go with it instead of mono is: abrasion resistance and less visibility in water vs mono.

Very interesting but why didn't you show results of the non-slip knot on the fluorocarbon?

Great presentation! But isn’t the reason for using floro. For stealth?

I use the mirrolure knot because it’s stupid easy. Wonder how that would do compared to those two

Good information. I would really like to know if there is a reliable way to measure line shyness of each type. Then we van know if the premium price of fluoro is worth it. Wish fish could talk.😂

I've always used Fluorocarbon leaders, is the double uni a good knot to tie braid to mono. That is what I have used for braid to fluoro

Good info. Thank you.

Have you tried this test with a hybrid line? Probably 95% of my leaders are Yo-Zuri Hybrid, because I don't like the memory of pure flouro nor the stretch of straight mono.

Great Research you guys!! Thanks!! How heavy can you go with your system... Can you go to 50lb?

do palamor vs uni

Great work!

Try this with the figure 8 loop knot

Great info. You should keep a log and do an average fish caught with the two different lines. For like three months or something?

I understand the strength, but I thought mono was easier to see for the fish than fluorocarbon. That’s the only reason I use fluoro! Any advice?

I was wondering if you could compare the FG knot to a knot I've just recently seen thats call the SC knot it seems very similar and maybe a little easier to tie

I thought the non slip knot is the strongest xD on the insider

😳😳😳 NO WAY! Never using fluorocarbon again and never wetting it again 😅

What was the fluorocarbon break strength on the nonslip knot?

i did it and amazing.. thanks

how many inch that softbait and what size that jighead?thank you

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Of the lines knot tested did you test the actual tensile of the respective lines as opposed to the stated test of 20?

If you are using braid as a mainline, you would not sacrifice much feel by adding a 2' leader. If anything mono will act as a shock leader which is easier to handle. Mono all the way ! Tired of the marketing hype around fluro .

Hey, thanks for the careful testing.... but you are overlooking one important detail. Your tests between flouro and mono would be more accurate if you would use % break strength when compared to the actual (not what's on the label) break strength of each line itself. You do show that Canoe Man is not a good knot for flouro, but you can't do accurate comparisons between mono and flouro simply by using pound strength. You need % break strength. In other words, it is possible that part of what you are proving is that mono manufacturers are more realistic in testing and labelling their lines, whereas flouro sellers tend to exaggerate the strength of their flouro lines.

I'd be interested in testing out Berkley FLUOROSHIELD which is a fluorocarbon/nylon copolymer line. They advertise it has the same strength as mono. A 30 lb test line is .021 inch diameter thick.

recommend the non slip on smaller lines such as 4lb 6lb 8lb?

Sacrificing sacred cows left and right over here!

I use canoe for everything. Hasn't failed me yet and I fish daily..

Stopped using flurocarbon line 2 yrs ago the most overrated line ever,para

Test the Surgeon's Loop, I found the knot strength to be terrible with Fluro.

I’ve never been able to get the canoe knot to tighten down. I wouldn’t use that knot on my shoes. You can tie it on . Then pull the line and the knot pulls right out. I’m not saying I’m doing it right or wrong. But if I was to catch a big fish he’s definitely going to pull the line right out. I’ve tried it different ways then I tie a reg knot on it and it stayed. But I don’t trust that knot anymore than I can throw a boat. 😂 I’m just not getting it. 🤷🏻

The canoe man proves to be the stronger knot. Why do you recommend the other?

Wow

Amazing how durable mono is

Carolina rig vs 3 way rig Knocker rig vs Carolina rig Leader vs straight braid no leader I think it's an absolute myth that fish can feel the weight of a sliding sinker. Also I think many fish don't care if u have a leader or not.

I always use mono I cant afford to spend 25$ on leader

Another reason why i'll stick to copolymer.