more like australian or even american with the ‘r’ sound

Funny enough, My family roots actually go fron Inner Mongolia and Shenyang (so the North) and I was born in Sheffield (Also the North) Great Britain 😅

@@Dqrk1700 I know people with the same combination of Chinese roots!!!

@@Kataru210 No, Sheffield is on the central-north portion of the North-South divide

I would have thought the opposite because of British English in Hong Kong.

Yes, people use erization when they are angry. Even people from the south.

maybe they are just always angry ..haha

TRUE dude, I was born in the north of China, but grew up in the south. When I use north accent, it sounds very rough and bold, but when I speak Mandarin, it is close to the softness of the south accent.

⁠​⁠@@HeChuanVincent Mandarin is Northern dialect, how could it get close to the southern accent?

@@m.l7011 North - British accent South - American accent

I used to live in Taipei and when I put on the accent for my northern students they tell me they can't understand a thing 😂

Indeed as a Singaporean of Min Nan descent (similar to Taiwanese) I do actually find our accents when speaking Mandarin to be closer. In comparison the “Fujian” girl in the video has a very standard Putonghua accent that is not typical for Fujianese at all, though to be fair I think Taiwanese and Singaporean Mandarin accents developed as a result of us learning from our predominantly Hokkien/Min Nan speaking parents and grandparents trying to speak Mandarin, whereas nowadays in China the Standard Putonghua accent is much more pervasive and it is increasingly common to find younger people in southern China who speak Putonghua without a “southern accent” at all. I think what’s very typically Fujian would be the softening of “zh”, “ch”, “sh” consonant and sometimes it even sounds similar to “z”, “c”, “s”. 有事 youshi may be pronounced yousi and 出门 chumen may be pronounced cumen

You don't sound like most fujian people I've met

I love deeply informative comments like this.

Being a chinese I agree❤

yeah i could kinda tell with the northern girl that she pronounced "hu shuo" how ppl from beijing do

Same Sad I THOUGHT I WAS LEARNING CANTONESE

@@cynthiacarmona3086 Eeek. Shouldn't the language setting say Cantonese instead of Mandarin?!!

@@tashaonly thb idk i googled it when I was first starting out and it said Cantonese, but NOW when I go to the Chinese page on duolingo it says Chinese Mandarin and so I looked it up on google AGAIN and it said it offered both but I looked everywhere on the app and I couldn’t find Cantonese ANYWHERE. ?????!!!!!!

@@tashaonly I mean… I googled it when I first started out and it said Cantonese… but now when I look at the official page it says mandarin. So I looked it up AGAIN and it said it offers both.

​@@tashaonly I want to travel to china...... I like kunnming and guangxi i would like to study in those provinces.

My FIL is from China. MIL is from Taiwan. The point you made in your post reminded me of how confused I was about the 'f' vs. 'h' sounds at the beginning of words. It took me the second half of the 1990s's to figure out what was going on with that!!!!!!!

Your concern is mostly valid with late middle aged and senior people. Standard Mandarin has been an essential part of the 9-year compulsory education in China since 1986. Anyone born after 1980 should at least have some basic grasp of Standard Mandarin, if they went to school.

Yes that’s funny , some even joke that’s why fujianese can’t talk to Cantonese people because Cantonese has more ‘f’ sounds while fujianese (or Hokkien) does not contain any ‘f’ sound 😢

You can tell even from the quality of their voices. Northern Chinese speak from their diaphragms, like an opera singer, whereas Southerners speak just from their throats.

Southern parts like Sichuan and Chongqing use “er” sound a lot too.

@@m.l7011 Most of the residents of Yunnan Guizhou and Sichuan migrated from the north in the early years, so their pronunciation is close to the northern dialect.

@@cblyouhavetorun 并不是。中国有句话叫湖广填四川，四川由于战乱丧失了大部分古蜀人口，现在的四川人大部分是湖南江西移民，而不是北方人。云南和贵州更不用说了，基因测序也都是南方血统。中国南方省份，含较多北方血统的是江苏和浙江北部。

我是北方人，我也喜欢南方口音，特别是女生的，台湾女生口音是出名的甜，北方口音就很狂野。😂

I like the southern accents like from Shanghai. But the Taiwanese accent sounds too slow and annoying, especially on women

There aint any southern accent in this video, the southern girl was speaking mandarin which a northern dialect. Many southern dialects are more sound like Thai and Vietnamese.

@@fruit4423这视频有哪怕一点南方口音吗？不就是标准普通话和北京南城话，都是北方方言。普通话成南方口音了？

@@m.l7011 You're dumb. 😂 Taiwanese Mandarin sounds like the southern example given here. You can sit down.

Is that so?

Right, Fujian girl just speaking plain vanilla Standard Chinese. In a real southern accent all the retroflex sounds (sh, zh, ch, r) just disappear.

I suspect that. It's nice to know that "true" mandarin didn't have the "r" accent and I was more likely learning the "correct" mandarin.

@@qwmxWhat you mean by "true mandarin" is what Chinese people call 普通话 or "Common Chinese" and it's basically a standardized upper class Beijing dialect. The Beijing girl is speaking a more working class Beijing dialect.

Yeah. “Southern accent” here is referring to speaking Mandarin 普通话 with a southern accent; speaking their own dialect/language would be a different comparison altogether

Standard Chinese wasn't invented until about 100 years ago. It is an adaptation of northern Chinese laguages in a way similar to how Hoch Deutche was formalized. IMHO, it was a travesty done by the pseudo intellectuals of early 20th century. Should have adopted Cantonese as national langage.

Not exactly. Even when the Fujian girl speak mandarin, you can still tell "Southern accent". By the way, Fujian and Taiwan are very close to each other, therefore, their accent is almost identical

Idk what that word means. But I have a feeling I’ve heard of it before 😂

​@@narutoninjagoandtheflashar4256 it means "nonsense" or "bullshit" haha! (胡说)

@@izzyneubs thanks

@@narutoninjagoandtheflashar4256 no prob 👍

It's a shortening of the Chinese idiom 胡说八道/胡說八道, which means "to speak nonsense." The Southern variation, 乱讲, means "to talk recklessly/wantonly"; 乱 put before a single-character verb just means to do that verb carelessly or halfheartedly (乱丢=to throw out carelessly; to litter).

Hmm, interesting. Never heard that before.

Are you joking?

Both are Chinese guy

maybe just tan

That's not true, the southerner actually looks like she could be from anywhere in Guangzhou or even Hong Kong

​@@anakitiktokwi2939no he's not. Many Northern Chinese are tall and elegant looking like the lady on the right and Southern Chinese tend to be usually rather smaller in stature and delicate in comparison just like the lady on the left. Of course there are exceptions to the case

It can drive you crazy, even the Fujianese have different dialects, they sound like different languages of their own.

@@generalnguyenngocloan1700duya!

@@generalnguyenngocloan1700 yeahh lmao my parents are from the same city in fujian and even their native tongues ("dialects") are completely different to each other

Yeah dongbei accent is cool

🤣Beijingers need the Rrrrr because it's Cold, as in Brrrrrrr!🤣

😂😂😂😂

Wow, that's a big change!

No. There are rules to determine which words you can add the "er" to. In this case is "zao-er hao a" (早儿好啊), "zaoerrraor" is just incompetent pronunciation.

Yes, a lot more elision in northern Chinese

But..so..how does "Wo gao shu ni" (i tell u) become "Wo gao'r ni" in their northen Chinese accent ??

Yeah, can be frustrating. Chinese is already a sound poor language, then the southern accent eliminates all the retroflex sounds, so there are even fewer sounds! But after a while you get used to it.

想個屁越南越南人機口音我們中國還是他聽出，越南的口音跟東南亞的尤其是老撾泰國那邊口音一樣

😱

I must witness !!

大家好我四渣渣辉

mandonese?

Yes

My fiancee is Chinese and when I asked her if she'd help me get better at speaking Mandarin she said "don't bother"! xD

You're right.. My grandparents were from southern China, so they and my parents can't speak "er" also can't differentiate between zhi chi shi and Zi CI si, not to mention the zhe che ze ce she

Right. The southerner in the video is not speaking with that accent, she just speaks “textbook” standard Chinese.

我的祖先是泉州人，你好

u mean madarin

没有那么绝对 北方 南方的概念很笼统 几十个省份 地理 人文 环境 不能一概而论 有很多北方人也叫拖布

Exactly xd

What!!! I go to school in yorkshire but I'm northern chinese and I don't see any similarities 😭

Not at all. Yorkshire is known for being very non-rhotic. The North sounds like an American accent

@@bitmelody2616 Northerners do not sound anything like americans 😭

@@Gy7vv7g8vgug8uv just checking, we're both talking about the North of China, not of England, right? Because northern Chinese heavy use of erhua makes it sound very American. But of course Yorkshire and American accents are a world apart.

是的福建话完全无法与普通话沟通。视频里介绍的只是不同口音的普通话。

don't southern chinese people know mandarin as it's china's national language and official language as well????

@@AJK-a2j00k4 They are force to learn mandarin as a second language in elementary school up to high school. but only 1 hour per day. they speak their native language at home and everywhere else in their home town...even in government offices.

@@nigellei8591 I am from Guangdong and Mandarin is widely used alongside Cantonese ("Canton" is just the British name for Guangdong), not some rare thing you learn in school and never use again. Idk what you're referring to. I hardly think it's "forced" at all.

​@@nigellei8591may i know what the native language at home they speak.

​​@@waij8261there are many regional languages, like Cantonese, Hokkien, Teochew, Hakka etc....kinda like the Italian languages (Sicilian, Neapolitan) where people still speak them regionally. But they actually do use Mandarin a lot as well on a day to day basis and not just one hour a day like what the reply above suggests.

Malaysians do not speak like people from the north, their ancestors come from the south so they are 100% more similar to southern mainlanders

The Chinese ancestors in Malaysia all came from the South, so they resemble Southerners and speak more Southern languages

Silence (安静) in chinese is anjing. You can say "lu anjing!" when asking someone to be silent. :P

不是的，這是地方的普通話要說方言的話是啊不同的