Norway By Bike #1 - The Journey Begins...

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AndyManCam

AndyManCam

Жыл бұрын

The time has finally come! After much planning, preparing, dreaming and fangirling, the bucketlist destination of Norway is finally being ticked off of the list!
The plan is to head north from my home near Hamburg and catch the ferry from Hirtshals in Denmark, over to Kristiansand in Norway. From there it's just a short blast to our first accomodation at Bjønndalen Camping www.bjcamp.no.
Let the touring begin!!
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@EpicAdamMotovlogs
@EpicAdamMotovlogs Жыл бұрын
Norway is on my wishlist and a friend of mine lives there. I promised her I'll visit one day. Nice Welsh accent at the end. You should be a member of Goldie looking chain with that accent and your musical skills
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Definitely make good on that promise Adam. You’ll not regret it!
@SamVBikes
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
I have also been to Blifri 98... great music but I'm too old for that now Looking forward to this series!
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
You and me both mate! Next episode drops this Avo! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/idWaeLN22rLckXk.html
@shauns_midlife_crisis
@shauns_midlife_crisis 9 ай бұрын
Andy, I came across your videos years ago when I had my Vstrom 650, sold it and stopped watching motorcycle vids. Picked up a 2015 KTM 1290 Super Adventure and started watching your vids again. I immensely enjoy everything about your videos (except for the 360 cameras - not sure why people use them). Keep it up, good sir!
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Shaun and welcome back! I hear you on the 360, after the current Norway series there’s going to be a fair bit less of that. More of an accent here and there! Ride thee well on that Austrian super-horse!
@stephenmundane
@stephenmundane Жыл бұрын
"Thank you very much Mr. Capes," priceless!
@YrnehLrak
@YrnehLrak Жыл бұрын
Oh, it wasnt mr. Cakes?
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
I was wondering how many people would catch that!! 😂
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this series having conquered Norway this summer all the way from the UK to Lofoten on my FJR.
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Maybe we saw you? We counted almost 20 FJR's in total in the two weeks we were there!
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
@@AndyManCam Very likely. We went from 22nd of July to around the 18th of August :)
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
We certainly overlapped then. We arrived on 11th August and left on 24th!
@steveball2307
@steveball2307 Жыл бұрын
I even got that going away on hols feeling! 😀
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Haha! Glad to hear it Steve! That means I brought the exact right mood across! We were PROPER excited!
@erikherje3414
@erikherje3414 5 ай бұрын
Nice video! I’m really impressed that you even found Bjønndalen Camp.. I live in the area ( have for the past 27 years ) and I’ve never heard of it 😂 Looking forward to the next episode 👍🏻
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam 4 ай бұрын
I think i found quite a lot of obscure stuff on this trip! There was lots of google maps scouring done!
@ianjames3078
@ianjames3078 Жыл бұрын
Classic early touring pose……….pull up in the shade, fall off the bike, hobble to a park bench, lay back on it. It’s gets better after 3 or 4 days ……..a liar once told me.
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
I know right!! I can openly share that it got gradually worse, as the trip progressed! Luckily the riding got so much more enjoyable that I didn't notice so much! But ultimately, it ended in the KTM decision!
@EpicMotorcycleAdventures
@EpicMotorcycleAdventures Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed that uptempo edit. Looking forward to the rest of the series.
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! Lots more to come!
@bikegeist
@bikegeist Жыл бұрын
Yes! I'm excited for this trip. You've captured that feeling really well.
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Cheers! I’m very glad to hear that!!
@spotty_cat26
@spotty_cat26 Жыл бұрын
I'm at work at the moment, I'm gonna save this for the big TV later.
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
I hope it didn't disappoint! The next one is hitting the screens at 15:00 UK time! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/idWaeLN22rLckXk.html
@spotty_cat26
@spotty_cat26 Жыл бұрын
@@AndyManCam It did not. Quality is excellent on the big screen. The reminder is set for later..
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Very happy to hear it!!
@antonoat
@antonoat Жыл бұрын
Second instalment and I'm hooked ! Loving it!
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it mate, lots more yet to come!!
@PhilTonic
@PhilTonic Жыл бұрын
Usually when the music kicks in I skip it, but not this time. Nice choice.
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it! Cheers Phil!
@ticthedog6095
@ticthedog6095 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this tour series
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
It's finally happening! First proper vid goes out today! 15:00 UK time kzfaq.info/get/bejne/idWaeLN22rLckXk.html
@BC-xu8yq
@BC-xu8yq Жыл бұрын
Your videos have got me excited to get back on the bike after a long winter hiatus
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Good to hear and happy to help! They have the same effect on me. All the time I'm editing, I just want to be back out there, riding again!
@gamborg88
@gamborg88 Жыл бұрын
nooo...!!!! You have been in Denmark without letting me know!! ANDY COME ON!? Next time - let me know! Please :D
@handerbirdy7671
@handerbirdy7671 Жыл бұрын
Yeeeeeoooiii 😀 Finaly .... Been waiting for this 😀 Just got 2 love that you did it 😀 Been waiting since you the summer... My home country ❤️
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
And a BEAUTIFUL home country it is! Easily my favourite touring trip of all time. Really hope to do it again and see everything that we missed!
@handerbirdy7671
@handerbirdy7671 Жыл бұрын
@@AndyManCam Mhm, and a long one 2... Hope you get 2 here more 😀😃🙂🙃
@handerbirdy7671
@handerbirdy7671 Жыл бұрын
@@AndyManCam but the only bad thing is the fuel prizes ... Not cheap 😞
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
I hope so too! Luckily the KTM is more economical than the Honda! 😜
@johnvaleriewelbers2995
@johnvaleriewelbers2995 Жыл бұрын
Very cool looking forward to the rest for sure 🤓😎🏍️💨💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦🍻bucket list place to go for sure
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Totally John. It's been top of my list pretty much since I moved to Germany!
@phil_buckley
@phil_buckley Жыл бұрын
Exiting as always waiting for the next episodes………
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Well the excitement can come to an end as the next one is here! 15:00 UK time this afternoon! (Sunday) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/idWaeLN22rLckXk.html
@not-this-fartoofar3606
@not-this-fartoofar3606 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this dude. Excellent vid.
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate! Next one is on the way! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/idWaeLN22rLckXk.html
@ladyjrider666
@ladyjrider666 Жыл бұрын
Exciting stuff! Happy travels! A fab first day. Ride safe. Lady J Rider
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Thanks Lady J! Spirits were VERY high! We'd both been waiting for this trip to happen for a LONG time!
@patricksheridan4960
@patricksheridan4960 Жыл бұрын
Great start to your trip. Non-motorcycling-related comment: that V8 didn't half sound good...
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Thanks Patrick. I know right! It sounded IMMENSE! 😍
@DaveDayve
@DaveDayve Жыл бұрын
Couldn't be uploaded at a better time. Tks Andy yr stuff rocks 🤘
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Many thanks indeed Dave!
@mattdrat3087
@mattdrat3087 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to Norway! Hope you have a nice time here!
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt! We had the BEST time! Cheers. I'm sure well be back!
@Mikethebike721
@Mikethebike721 Жыл бұрын
This is looking good. Great music as well
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much mate!
@UncleLongbeard
@UncleLongbeard Жыл бұрын
good start
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Cheers Uncle L!
@rickydowns1289
@rickydowns1289 Жыл бұрын
Must confess I’m very excited to see your Norwegian adventures with Ian. Cracking video as ever Andy, your tour videos are always top quality, great soundtrack too 😊
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Ricky! Hopefully this series will keep you feeling the same way mate!
@HeretiCflow
@HeretiCflow Жыл бұрын
Oh man! I can't wait for this series to continue. Norway is on my bucketlist for sure, but the prices are a bit concerning. Do you have by any chance an estimate on how much budget one should plan (per day) to have a decent time?
@tvr419
@tvr419 Жыл бұрын
I spend something like €2000 there in 2019
@HeretiCflow
@HeretiCflow Жыл бұрын
@@tvr419 for what? How many days and km?
@tvr419
@tvr419 Жыл бұрын
@@HeretiCflow i think about 12 days in Norway an about 200 to 350 km per day
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
For both of us, we spent about 2600€ in total. So over the 13 days that's about 200€ per day. That includes the main ferries. (We still haven't received the bills for the inland ferries as they come later, but they are probably about another 50-100€ max) So we did around 250 - 300km per day and spent 100€ each. Obviously if you were to go alone, that wouldn't mean half the cost as many of the accommodations were as basic as it got. We also didn't camp though, so more potential saving to be had there. The real secret was never eating out and never staying in an actual hotel! Plus cafes and restaurants are crazy expensive. So we made cheese sandwiches from the supermarket and had a half a ton of cereal bars! 😂
@HeretiCflow
@HeretiCflow Жыл бұрын
@@AndyManCam thank you so much for this extensive reply! I feared it was a lot less affordable.
@jerryandjamie2up
@jerryandjamie2up Жыл бұрын
Cheers! I was so excited to see this. Always love your travel videos. Your stepdad got a great machine. Have fun, be safe, and look forward to future content with your new machine.
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jerry! He did get a great machine, but he didn't end up keeping it long! Just for this trip. I'm really looking forward to the next Austrian powered tour! Just need to get this one out there first!
@chema1546
@chema1546 Жыл бұрын
Ok 👌👍 Andy tschuss
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@mikejgriffiths
@mikejgriffiths Жыл бұрын
Awesome, really looking forward to this lot Andy
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
You and me both Mike! If I could get them done quick enough for one a day, I would!!
@ianwilliams4832
@ianwilliams4832 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, can't wait for this series. 👍👍
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Cheers Ian! Here's the next one! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/idWaeLN22rLckXk.html
@cport955
@cport955 Жыл бұрын
Been looking forward to this to fill the winter days
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Hopefully it’ll fill many a cold afternoon before the sun comes back!!
@georgewatt354
@georgewatt354 Жыл бұрын
Have a great trip and looking forward to the updates👍
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Many thanks George! The next update is incoming! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/idWaeLN22rLckXk.html
@richardslater6479
@richardslater6479 Жыл бұрын
Looking good so far , enjoy
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard! MUCH enjoyment was indeed had!!
@Motorcycle_Mike
@Motorcycle_Mike Жыл бұрын
What a start! This had it all. Mrs. AMC 🔥🔥 🔥 Then those cool bikes, great laughs, and entertaining 2 wheel content. Exceptional edit and music as usual. Can’t wait for EP02👍🏻🔝🎬🎥
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Haha! Mrs AMC was very happy for the 🔥 She says I tricked her and didn't tell here there would be cameras for the off! Many thanks Mike and the next one is on the blocks and ready to go! 15:00 Uk time kzfaq.info/get/bejne/idWaeLN22rLckXk.html
@dpcservices
@dpcservices Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see more
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Your wish is my command!! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/idWaeLN22rLckXk.html
@mr.rustila3222
@mr.rustila3222 Жыл бұрын
Weird watching you fill up, just a couple of minutes away from where I live. 😂 Awesome that you release these series during the winter, can't wait for the rest!
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
It’s a small world eh! 😁
@cyrilo_on_bike
@cyrilo_on_bike Жыл бұрын
Sad u ditched de Cb...loved watching ur videos working on the honda🤷🏼‍♂️ And i've been to the nordkapp (started in switzerland) and i didn't have any problem with it. (But i'm only 21, so maybe that's also a reason for that)
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
You and me both! I did very much like the bike. But it just wasn't working for what i needed to do with it. Shame. I think the extra 22 years on my bones definitely played a large part in the discomfort!! 😂
@eddiemizen3703
@eddiemizen3703 Жыл бұрын
Injoy 😁
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Many thanks Eddie!
@scottyuk
@scottyuk Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this series 👍
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
I've been itching to be able to get on it for months! Too much real life getting in the way of the cool stuff!! Next one is en route: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/idWaeLN22rLckXk.html
@whatsstefon
@whatsstefon Жыл бұрын
Definitely goes to show you’ve made a wise choice going to the KTM. Can’t wait for more.
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. I REALLY wish I'd already made that choice before this trip though! Could have been way more comfortable and saved a stack of cash!!
@alanread136
@alanread136 Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate really looking forward to trip 👍
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Thanks Alan! Incoming!! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/idWaeLN22rLckXk.html
@tomstc
@tomstc Жыл бұрын
Brilliant stuff! Can see why you got the KTM now! I went to Norway in my late teens in February chasing tail, a very small place called Rena, it was so cold my nostrils froze! I am just working out that was over 20 years ago I feel depressed now
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
That was just the beginning! 😂 I‘m just realising that i got my motorbike license a whole voting adult ago! 😱
@teneretraveller8980
@teneretraveller8980 Жыл бұрын
A most excellent beginning. Missed a chance to buy the missus a gift at the toy shop, though. Never miss a chance for brownie points. You were away and thought of me. Ahhh. This will be interesting. Costings especially. Safe, happy travels 👍
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Haha! So true! Though we were thinking distractions that early in the day wouldn’t help. Plus there might have been hookers in the vicinity, and we were already warned off those…
@julianperry5141
@julianperry5141 Жыл бұрын
This is going to be epic!
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
It certainly was epic! i just hope that comes across in the vids!!
@terrybrooks7140
@terrybrooks7140 Жыл бұрын
Ooh teaser I can wait for the fjords 😁 Could you please let us know the ferry's you used and how much they cost and were they any good hoping to do this this year so yes I am using you slightly as my KZfaq Guinea pig 😁
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
The Fjords did not disappoint! We used Fjordline. The ferry there was about about 75€ (Hirthals to Kristiansand) and the ferry back was about 200€ (Stavanger to Hirtshals) both per person. I'm planning to do an overall cost breakdown video, once I've got the series finished.
@Mototherapy_Michio
@Mototherapy_Michio Жыл бұрын
Looked like the wooden bench was more confortable than your seat ! *I need a more comfortable bike for those long trips, and I really like this 2018 KTM 1090 Adventure…
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Haha! It certainly felt that way! That's pretty much where my mind was at by the end of this adventure Michio! I was already scouring the classifieds on the ferry back to Denmarkl!!
@pricebusters1966
@pricebusters1966 Жыл бұрын
I thought it would be colder.
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
So did we!! It was very changeable though. Sometimes freezing at night, sometimes 27 degrees C in the day!
@norriemasson4080
@norriemasson4080 Жыл бұрын
Look’s forward to this one Andy, as a matter of interest did you strap your own bike down or do the ferry crew do it ? Travelling N Ireland to Scotland the crew do it in case of any mishaps your covered by their insurance.
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
We actually had to strap them down ourselves Norrie. I'm hoping that the crew checked, but probably not. Good point about the insurance, didn't think about that. Especially as the guy next to ian just didn't understand the concept of strapping his bike down. If I hadn't interjected, his bike would have definitely been the top domino on an expensive pile of dominos!
@TheZoloster
@TheZoloster 9 ай бұрын
Z1000SX... My dream bike of the past... But instead, I got the Versys 1000 Grand Tourer and I much liked the bike. I still regret that I sold Versys this summer. I just wanted to say that Kawasaki makes great bikes for touring.
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam 9 ай бұрын
Undoubtedly! Even my Versys 650 was a fine touring machine! If i hadn’t started enjoying the dirt, I’d seriously consider a Versys 1000.
@leenewson5651
@leenewson5651 Жыл бұрын
Should be a good tour.....keep it coming
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Gladly! Cheers Lee!
@ianjames3078
@ianjames3078 Жыл бұрын
I remember that 98 festival, her name was Deborah…..it never suited her.
@NotNowCato1254
@NotNowCato1254 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I think I knew her. Wasn't her house very small, with woodchip on the wall? 🤔
@ianjames3078
@ianjames3078 Жыл бұрын
@@NotNowCato1254 might have been, I went around to call but she didn’t notice me.
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
I looked her up in the year 2000, but she'd had too much Brains and drowned in the fountain down the road. Shame.
@kimw200blaze4
@kimw200blaze4 Жыл бұрын
I am curious to find out if petrol stations are far and few between in Norway? As they are one of the leading countries in the transition to EVs. I would therfore assume that there are not as many petrol stations that abound in Norway? Having said that, I am looking forward to another fantastic touring series from you.
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
We actually didn't really have any problems. They were well spaced and plentiful. Obviously there were a few stretches where there were less, but we just made sure to check the route beforehand and see if we were likely to get into trouble. Of course, now with the KTM, I'd probably be able to do the whole trip on one tankful!
@jadeybrice
@jadeybrice Жыл бұрын
Just watching your trip P2 Andy enjoying it hugely as always regards the arse I just bought some bikers arse pants will let you know what they're like 😂 regards the whinging about the lack of screen and fairing what can I say I enjoy the screenless footage but ain't giving up on mine 🤷🏼 😃
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Bikers Arse Pants! I hope that's what they're called!! 🤣 You're right about the screenless footage looking the best, but sadly somethings gotta give! I've only got a short screen on the KTM now though!
@yiannishayabusaofficial
@yiannishayabusaofficial Жыл бұрын
AWESOME AMAZING SUPERB TOP TOP TOP
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Yiannis!
@michaelfiala2127
@michaelfiala2127 Жыл бұрын
ah that mustang sound though
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
It was glorious!! Twice as good in real life. I felt it more than I heard it!
@markmundy3435
@markmundy3435 Жыл бұрын
I think I now know the pivotal moment when the decision to get an adventure bike was made, 3.30 mins in! You maybe didn't know it at the time. lol
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
It was definitely a large deciding factor!!
@johnsteel4719
@johnsteel4719 Жыл бұрын
Great track by Staffan Carlen…
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Seemed to perfectly fit the mood of the day!
@pepedlux
@pepedlux Жыл бұрын
Great music!! What was the first song you played? Can't find it anywhere!
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
It's called 'You know what i want' by Staffan Carlén.
@sammeadows8614
@sammeadows8614 Жыл бұрын
I woke up inside that women from the supermarket😂👍
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
The things that happen at festivals, eh?!
@EJK1965
@EJK1965 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what the Welsh do, I live there and I have seen Bleifrei Jenkins in action. Wasn't it!
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Ahh Bleifrei Jenkins. Legend, Hero, Boyo.
@vicpnut1
@vicpnut1 Жыл бұрын
Holy dark Batman
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
The darkest! Bit of a shock tbh!!
@indiamelia639
@indiamelia639 Жыл бұрын
Been looking forward to this boyo. We need more Welsh accent! 🐑
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Haha! I'll see what I can do boyo! 😆
@DaveDayve
@DaveDayve Жыл бұрын
Come on Andy, when's the next one?
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Funny you should ask, this afternoon at 15:00!!
@DaveDayve
@DaveDayve Жыл бұрын
@@AndyManCam wooooohoooo magic. Fabulous Tks ☺ 💪🏆🤙
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!!
@anderseriksen2282
@anderseriksen2282 Жыл бұрын
Hi mate - nice video - 1 like - in Norway DONT SPEED (radar every where), and those Norwegians want MONEY - btw: you just past my place in Denmark, just before you pass`s the tunnel at Aalborg. See u in the nxt 1 Andy
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Cheers Anders! We were VERY well behaved with regards to speed! Heard too many stories of incredible fines!! See you in the next one! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/idWaeLN22rLckXk.html
@ravi0ly
@ravi0ly Ай бұрын
Denmark is always the worst. High pace and boring highway. I live in Norway and skip it entirely and take the ferry straight to Kiel. Germany is worse if you choose the autobahn. But theres a million other roads you can take there. Going straight to italy and abit about when the summer holiday sets in! Have a good summer lads!!
@rogerlinder8606
@rogerlinder8606 Жыл бұрын
Hello m8 when is this clip recorded?? Seems like summer 2022 or?? Greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Hi Roger. Exactly right. It was middle of August 2022.
@trykozmaksym
@trykozmaksym Жыл бұрын
Public demands 30 FPS
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
Does the public have it's 100,000 signatures?... 😜
@TheMilkybarkid69
@TheMilkybarkid69 Жыл бұрын
As much as l love your videos sometimes l really hate you 🤣🤣
@AndyManCam
@AndyManCam Жыл бұрын
I can understand that, you're allowed!
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