Norwegian Purl for English Knitters / Knitting Project Spreadsheets // Casual Friday #39

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Roxanne Richardson

Roxanne Richardson

Күн бұрын

This week's Casual Friday podcast! Norwegian Purl for English knitters, plus how I track knitting projects using spreadsheets.
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Introduction 0:00
Project Updates: 0:34
Retreat: 3:50
Norwegian Purl for English Knitters: 9:41
Demo of Norwegian Purl for English Knitters: 16:20
Knitalong Update: 22:20
Project tracking using spreadsheets: 23:17
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@doyouzgot2knw
@doyouzgot2knw 7 ай бұрын
It’s literally just the tension changes when purling in English. I have to purposefully knit tighter in purl, so that’s what my issue is. But this is GAME CHANGER!!! LETS GOOO
@stephaniejones9523
@stephaniejones9523 Жыл бұрын
So I know this was posted '6 million years ago' in internet time, but your demo of Norwegian purling for English Knitters made me cry real tears of relief. My biggest problem as a 'flicker' has always been trying to control the tension of the yarn doing the purl the 'normal' way, keeping it wrapped nicely around that needle while it scoops under and then back. Something about doing it the Norwegian way clicked immediately and I just quickly finished an entire row of 1x1 rib faster than I ever did the regular way. Now I'm looking forward to the stockinette rows!
@7YBzzz4nbyte
@7YBzzz4nbyte 5 ай бұрын
Still seems complicated with the bringing yarn and positioning behind... I learned it at age 9 with the yarn in front, so no need to bring the yarn anywhere or to throw. Check out channel Arne and Carlos for two Norwegians doing advanced knitting.
@yarnover
@yarnover 2 ай бұрын
I'm happy you found something that works for you! Our hands are all different shapes and sizes. It makes sense to me that something that seems more complicated could be more successful with certain configurations of hands and needles.
@tracyvision
@tracyvision 3 жыл бұрын
This comment has nothing to do with knitting...thank you for being so open and reflective about how you dismissed the other knitters opinion. I have that tendency too when I think I’m right and am working on doing just what you said, opening my mind before my mouth and asking to be enlightened. In knitting, as in life, there are so many variables that impact why we make the choices we do that we may be missing out on a learning opportunity if we don’t ask for more information when we disagree with someone. Thank you for sharing.
@b2b2ba
@b2b2ba Ай бұрын
Thank you! I’ve tried to learn Norwegian purl for years now with no lasting success. I knit English but hate purling. And my tension is slightly tighter purling, which has always bothered me. Your demonstration on the Norwegian purl with English modification has made a huge difference. And the whole Norwegian purl dance finally makes sense to me.
@patriciaderrick9865
@patriciaderrick9865 3 жыл бұрын
I had a stroke two years ago, and am slowly regaining my fine motor control in my left hand. I knit English style and purling is slow & painful. I am going to try this purl technique. It's wonderful that there are so many different approaches to a craft we all love!!
@BeeBalm001
@BeeBalm001 Жыл бұрын
The Prym knitting needles are great for the norweign purl. Carlos and Arne have a great tutorial.
@machojpoj
@machojpoj Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the purling technique! You saved my sanity. My problem was tension with DK weight yarn - I’ve only knit ITR with that weight, but started a cardigan and could NOT get my purling tension even. It was frustrating me to no end. This method works fabulously. I appreciate you for understanding the reasons why someone might want an alternative method.
@RKCALGARY
@RKCALGARY 2 жыл бұрын
Roxanne your idea of how the Norwegian Purl is done “English Style” is pure genius. I have the most amazing 1x1 rib on my sock. Something about the y/o frwd, enter pwise, switch tips, wrap, switch tips back, then through (finish stitch) makes the perfect size purl to go beside the k1tbl. It is not at all the same as a regular purl stitch. I wish I could send you a pic of this perfect rib. I also used a combined Long Tail cast on (1 regular, switch thumb, 1reverse). This is so pretty. My new sock rib for life.
@thesilenceisdeafening
@thesilenceisdeafening 20 күн бұрын
I am an English knitter, that is how I learned at age 11. I am 53 now, and still totally enjoying doing both the knit and purl stitches English style. But!! I came across Norwegian knitting one day when I saw an Arne and Carlos demonstration❤. I love learning new things and I found both Norwegian knit and purl to be fun and also game changers. And contrary to what I notmally do, this time I did not need to modify any of it to suit me. It is perfectly fine (and fun😂) doing it the true Norwegian way❤❤Personally, I do believe that it is possible for English knitters to knit the Norwegian way. I also knit the Continental style when I find it necessary, it is fun to do too, but I modified it to suit me by not having my left forefinger up in the air constantly. It creates too much stress on my muscles and I need my hands as pain free as possible as I play flute and violin. I hold my forefinger down. It ten gives me the same tension as my English and Norwegian knitting. All in all, I believe that there is not just one way of knitting, or only one right way. There is only what works for the individual. So finding all these different ways is really great because now one has so many options!😀. Just as there are different ways, different stitches, in crochet😄. I just can't get enough of these crafts😊
@juliapackwood2281
@juliapackwood2281 Жыл бұрын
Yes oh yes oh yes! and this is how (finally!) I can do the 1/1 left purl cross without dropping, pinching or a cable needle and without twisting the purl. Amazing. Your content as always, the absolute best.
@sarahbruck7538
@sarahbruck7538 7 ай бұрын
Your method is pure genius. It solves all the issues with speed and tension - BRAVA! Thank you for the segment on the Norwegian Purl. You are a wonderful teacher, and each of us has our bias. If I’m knitting a large fabric, I knit continental and then purl Portuguese - that’s the fastest. If I want absolute tension control, then I throw and purl as usual - the most time consuming method. Wrapping counterclockwise is the hardest part of Norwegian purling, I invariably end up with some twisted stitches. One of these days I’m going to put it all together and use the best method for me. Some day…..
@virginiamartinez9622
@virginiamartinez9622 3 жыл бұрын
Funny thing , I was doing seed stitch and decided I had to learn to do the Norwegian purl with yarn in back . Funnier still I was able to do it for eight rows and I was a happy knitter , and what’s even funnier is I can’t do it again to save my life. I’ll continue trying to find out how I did it . Love your videos
@JustAnotherBuckyLover
@JustAnotherBuckyLover Жыл бұрын
Did you figure it out? I am going to try how Roxanne demonstrated it because the part that makes purl so un-fun for me is, in fact, having to wrap around the needle tip while purling. I *can* do continental knit and Norwegian purl but my tension is all over the place and my knitting looks horrific because it took me forever to figure out tension while knitting English in the first place!
@lissyperez4299
@lissyperez4299 Жыл бұрын
Took me a while too.
@marilynpannell20
@marilynpannell20 5 жыл бұрын
I'm an English knitter who flicks rather than throws. I don't 'flick' purling left as easily (comfortably) as I flick to knit,, so if I have to 'purl back' on the wrong side, I use the Portugese purl, which is fast, and easy on the the body parts. Basically, this means I tension as for Portugese knitting, holding the working yarn in the front and flicking the yarn over the needle with my left thumb. Easy-peasy. And for long rows, worth switching the tensioning.
@MilenaTS0401
@MilenaTS0401 5 жыл бұрын
I am a Portuguese knitter and this is exactly what I would have suggested!
@marianlyons5377
@marianlyons5377 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you do this, as I am trying to find an alternative way from the english style that won't be too hard on my wrist...Thanks
@allisonbumgardner1421
@allisonbumgardner1421 Жыл бұрын
I am an English knitter. I really like this process much better to purl.
@peggytraeg
@peggytraeg Жыл бұрын
Your spreadsheet tracking for knitting is amazing. It made me think of my husband, who keeps spreadsheets for so many things in his life. He once created a spreadsheet on how many hours a week we spent together, after we had had an argument about the amount of time he was working, traveling and being at home with me. A week later he mentioned he had created a spreadsheet breaking down the number of hours he was working vs the number of hours he was with me. He was so proud of himself, because the data revealed the number of hours he was spending with me was higher than the number of hours he was working. Well, this created another argument (all arguments are started by me, haha). I told him he could have been with me instead of working on a spreadsheet, and if he showed me the spreadsheet I was going to divorce him! My husband never showed me the spreadsheet (we have been married 29 years), but I am sure he has it saved in a file. :) I hope you are feeling better, Roxanne.
@jkim9843
@jkim9843 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Roxanne! I alway have a tension problem in continental knitting and purling. This is a just perfect method for whom want to do English style Norwegian purl. I prefer to knit with my right hand, so this video is a great leaning resource!
@Caregiver29
@Caregiver29 5 жыл бұрын
I just tried this method and I like it. No gutters. Nice even stitches. Not a problem going from knit to purl &mvice versa.
@carola.6990
@carola.6990 3 жыл бұрын
As an english knitter, i have no problem with purling, but am always looking to learn new techniques and perhaps more efficient ways of doing things. I will try this for sure on my next project. Thank you so much.
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 3 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@mcoknits856
@mcoknits856 4 ай бұрын
Absolute genius. Especially for someone who loves seed stitch.
@mcoknits856
@mcoknits856 4 ай бұрын
Hello from Toronto. As a Scottish style knitter who likes to knit with a needle tucked under my arm, this is a game changer. I cannot honestly say I have difficulty purling as I have purled without difficulty for over 40 years. However, it is not efficient to constantly bring the yarn to the front and then to the back in a one by one rib. This method is much quicker and more efficient. Thanks for this video,
@dawnwright5422
@dawnwright5422 4 жыл бұрын
Wow I could not believe it it was so easy. My tension was perfect right away. I love it. I can do it both ways now.
@nballesterob
@nballesterob 3 жыл бұрын
I still having issues with my tension. I hope this video help
@KnittingEmporiumDesigns
@KnittingEmporiumDesigns 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Norwegian purl English style. I find it useful even though I have quite good tension because often once I have wrapped the purl stitch (English style) I find that my hold on the yarn slips and it slows me down having to reposition or tighten the yarn. Also it tires me out more than the knit stitch. Thanks.
@KAUSHEN927
@KAUSHEN927 5 жыл бұрын
This is useful to me. Hallelujah
@janetstuart3900
@janetstuart3900 5 жыл бұрын
Roxanne, I am an english knitter and am going to use this method to purl. I have tried the Norw. purl stitch continental style, however, I prefer to knit with my right hand so this video is a great leaning resource. Thank you
@theseamstress6315
@theseamstress6315 3 жыл бұрын
I am an English knitter thanks for giving that another try, that makes it easier for me.
@Jieunehyi
@Jieunehyi 4 жыл бұрын
Life changing!
@bon47ful
@bon47ful 5 жыл бұрын
BrilIant! Thank you. ❤️
@gjertrud7895
@gjertrud7895 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another interesting podcast! I used to have tension problems while purling too. I knit continental ( not norwegian purl) and I used to have to pull on the yarn to get the tension of the purl sts more like my knit sts. It made my purling uneven. And it was hard on my hands and made my arms and shoulders tense. The solution for me was combination knitting: I knit western and purl eastern. That means that my purl sts are mounted the wrong way, but even though I knit somewhat slower in the eastern mounted sts, my purling is so much faster, that all in all I'm faster and less tense. I purl eastern also when I knit english with one yarn in each hand for colorwork.
@magali2702
@magali2702 5 жыл бұрын
I 've been knitting continental style for 60+ years and have never had any problems with uneven purl rows. Everyone has to knit the way that suits them best.
@yarnover
@yarnover 2 ай бұрын
I knit English style, combination style. It makes the left stitch of a wider rib or cable match the other stitches. The stitch mounts mean that the running thread from a knit stitch to a purl stitch is the same size as the running thread from a purl stitch to a knit stitch.
@damdamfino
@damdamfino 2 жыл бұрын
This. Is. Potentially. Life changing. I’m a flicker who dreads ribbing, because having to constantly switch my hand position to throw when I purl instead of flicking like when I’m knitting is tiring and feels like it wastes time. If I can keep my yarn position on my flicking finger the same through knits and purls, I might stop dreading ribbing. Edit: for more detail, when I flick knit, I keep the yarn on my index finger. But when I purl, I use my middle finger to wrap the purl stitch. (Purling on index finger usually results in the working yarn slipping off my index finger before I finish wrapping the stitch.) This means I have to drop the working yarn from my index finger to scoop it up with my middle finger, and then have to drop the yarn again to pick it up on my index for the knit st. And then add in the bringing the yarn from front to back….and boy howdy do I dread ribbing.
@MarjorieBusby
@MarjorieBusby Жыл бұрын
Interesting video on Norwegian Purl. Although this was done 4 years ago, it came up in my feed today. I knit both English and Continental depending on the project, however I learned English 50 years ago and have better tension with it. As I have aged, my tension with switching from k/p is not as consistent as it once was. I made a sample of k1p1 ribbing with the Norwegian Purl and find that although moving the yarn back and forth is the same as English knitting, I can get a more consistent tension with the Norwegian Purl in the English knitting method. Thanks for this video.
@basilrose
@basilrose 5 жыл бұрын
Hallelujiah I love this! So simple when you know how :-) Thank you Rox for figuring this out!
@teslaandhumanity7383
@teslaandhumanity7383 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I could purl continental/ Norwegian, going to practice this thanks 😊
@MrPeckjee
@MrPeckjee Жыл бұрын
I also like this norweian purling, need to practise more. thanks.
@mangomum99
@mangomum99 5 жыл бұрын
I tried a different way again in a backwards type of knitting for purl & you keep all your stitches on the right needle & your yarn on the right as I’m a left handed but learned right handed now I feel I can’t control the tension in my left so for purl you actually pick from th stitch from the middle of the stitch through to the back & pull it toward to yourself via the middle of the stitch it was surprisingly easy & simple not so much movement with the needles 😊💖
@annanowak147
@annanowak147 4 жыл бұрын
The purl is quite cool! I knit continental, but I can also knit English, only I'm not very experienced with it. I dislike letting go of my right needle, so I flick, and flicking for me works much better for knit than purl stiches. The Norwegian purl in the English style solves that issue for me. One more good trick for colorwork, thanks!
@aq7350
@aq7350 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an English knitter ('flicker' of sorts). I have always had loose tension/laddering in my work when going from a knit to a purl stitch. Just did a quick swatch of 2x2 ribbing, using a Norwegian purl for just the first purl stitch, and it eliminated the laddering! It was a pretty smooth motion, and more consistent than the previous 'trick' I tried (giving the yarn a tug, as per VeryPink Knit's tutorial). Thank you sharing this!
@gfixler
@gfixler 5 жыл бұрын
I'm going through the same thing with pattern writing. I've never written one (but I've written many pages of notes and steps while designing), but I have a small stack of designs now, several made, and one made a few times. I've written code, documentation for code, and technical things my whole life, but this has an aesthetic design aspect (pictures, layout, fonts, margins, etc), and I've dragged my heels so badly, 3 things have gone out of season, and I have to wait until next year to release them. I've been thinking that I just need to nail down my style, and then follow it from now on, so I don't have to think about it. I also hate the details. I like the big pictures, the invention, and mostly the figuring things out and learning. I've gone on rants at work about how much time we waste in our industry on "accidental complexity." Everything's been shifting toward this newer software that's nothing but complexity for complexity's sake, which means you have to remember and execute countless trivialities that have nothing to do with anything, but just are, because it was all built through patchwork kludges. That's life-sapping to me.
@robynreid3027
@robynreid3027 Жыл бұрын
Really interesting demonstration re Norwegian purl for English knitters. I'll try it out of interest but I have no problem with purling English-wise. I congratulate you on your reflection and conclusion re dismissing people, I wish more people would do so!
@tarapotocek
@tarapotocek 5 жыл бұрын
I just really dislike purling because of the wrapping. It slows me down (I knit English style), but I like how the 2x2 ribbing looks. I struggle with continental even though I’m determined to be able to knit that way. This is making me hopeful and I’ll be trying this when I get to the ribbing of my current project (leg warmers for my girls). Thank you so very much. 😉
@justcheckingchicken4204
@justcheckingchicken4204 3 жыл бұрын
I wrap the wool around my left thumb whilst I purl and when I knit I wrap the wool around my left finger , it’s easy to do and my hands don’t hurt (Portugal knitting)
@needleworker
@needleworker 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the English Style Norwegian purl as I am a loose purler English style so I taught myself to Continental knit but a badly torn left shoulder which has put me out of action pretty much this year meant continental knitting was toooo painful. In trying to get back to knitting as I missed it so much I found I can knit English style with limited movement with my left hand so went back to that style but still have problems with the loose purl......and now with the better purl will continue in the English throwing style and it much easier than the original Norwegian purl has much more of an easier flow for me 😘😘😘 I knitted with the new purl all last night and you have changed my knitting for ever the last fiddle of fighting to keep purl tension is gone & also I can just use one hand hold rather than having to adjust it for the purl and my purls are now as fast a my knits and I love them which is HUGE Thank you Rox xxxxx
@mangomum99
@mangomum99 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve never had trouble purling as an English knitter but I’m left handed & am keen to learn continental style knitting but truly as opposite as tought so I can mirror the continental way I’ve yet to see it. So the left hand needle would be the one moving while keeping yarn in the right hand that is easier to tension for me hope this gets you thinking about this thanks 😁💖💖
@glowilk5377
@glowilk5377 3 жыл бұрын
Roxanne, I’m looking at your bookshelf titles. I need to get a few more books.❤️
@samanthaB7712
@samanthaB7712 4 жыл бұрын
This was so interesting....pearling was always a challenge for me in that it slowed me down and I was always fumbling for the working yarn and my tension was just awful. I just did not seem to have any control until I started using my left thumb to wrap and pull for tension. I run my working yarn in my left hand from around my neck and I pick knit...all that slinging and wrapping wears me out.
@dianeyoung2914
@dianeyoung2914 10 ай бұрын
As an english knitter, purling is fine when you are doing a ot of stitches, you kind of get used to flicking the wool over but it is more annoying than the knit stitch, especially when ribbing. I recently tried continental knitting and agin the knit stitch is a breeze but the purl is taking me longer to master whichever way I try but your way looks so much easier. Going to go and try it now. Thank you.
@courag1
@courag1 4 жыл бұрын
Roxanne, there are people who don't use the right vocabulary and may have looked at even Portuguese knitting where purls may look like they are perhaps Norwegian purls but done right handed. They know how they knit, never learned the style had a name. I love learning to knit in other methods and even most styles in mirror knitting. This helped my arthritic fingers to be rehabiliatated. I said all that to tell you a story about knitting in my doctor's waiting room and a woman began to watch me and I looked up and we locked eyes and she determined I was knitting "wrong". So I figured she much hold the yarn in the other hand and no it wasn't that but she did not have the name for what she did. I went through all the styles I knew and then those backwards. "No, I don't knit like any of them." Perhaps as I don't think I knew Portuguese as the time. She accused me of being a "knitting teacher" but said it like it was a loathesome thing and in the tone of voice that I had somehow humiliated her because she did not have the name for the way she knit. That's been 10 years ago and my feelings are still hurt because I don't try to hurt other people's feelings, I rather am "little miss helpful". In my English Knitting, I've never thrown the yarn around taking my right hand off, I either stretch or flick. So it looks different but.... she walked away in a huff. Was it my fault? I thought so. There are people who take offense because they can. I was knitting in a restaurant and the waiter snatched my knitting away while I was waiting for my food. I had to see the manager to get my knitting back. Still I blamed myself. Both of these people could have and should have expressed their feelings better. But this is a new choice in how I see things. I am not always wrong. I had not said a word to the waiter for instance. My husband did the ordering. For all the waiter knew, I could have been deaf. We were raised to be polite and loving and considerate. In some neck of the world, civility is just plain not spoken and may be in fact dead. Do I still feel bad? Yep! Must need therapy (I mean me, not you).
@choppysocks
@choppysocks 3 жыл бұрын
Skip to 16:45, you're welcome 🙂
@vandanaverma4421
@vandanaverma4421 Жыл бұрын
Thank you😊
@smallfootprint2961
@smallfootprint2961 5 жыл бұрын
I'm doing mostly Norwegian and Continental style knitting. One difference in the way you demonstrated the Norwegian style purl is that we generally hold the first finger of the left hand, against the needle tip, to limit having to hold the finger in the air. In our way of doing the Norwegian purl, it might be a bit more difficult to switch from English to the Norwegian purl. I'm going to see how it can be done with the finger on the needle. I have some difficulty with the Norwegian purl with thick yarn and larger needles. Your demonstration gives me some ideas about how I can make some changes for those times. Thanks for showing your ideas on this subject. Very nice of you to recognize that your response to the other knitter might have been abrupt. I also would like to see what she had in mind. Maybe she'll see this video, and post something.
@kat1984
@kat1984 5 жыл бұрын
I'm in the process of switching to the Norwegian style in general from English. Using the Arne & Carlos videos. I've never been able to figure out the traditional continental method. I learned to knit from KZfaq and held my yarn pinched between thumb and forefinger and threw the yarn that way. I've never seen anyone else hold the yarn the way I did. Hopefully I'll be able to be faster with the Norwegian style
@smallfootprint2961
@smallfootprint2961 5 жыл бұрын
I learned to knit English style when I was young but have only knitted off and on through the years. This time, picking it back up, I was determined to find another knitting style to make it all more fun and less hard on my old hands. Arne and Carlos are who I like to follow too and have picked up the Norwegian style as my favorite way to knit. I like holding my finger close to the needle and picking the yarn off my finger. So much easier (for me). I do have a problem with larger needles and thick yarn, so still learning. I makes it fun to knit. I wasn't enjoying my old way, but am glad to know how it all works, and can do it if I want, for some reason. Nice to have options.
@kathyschapals1176
@kathyschapals1176 3 жыл бұрын
I tried it a and I like it!
@kramer6205
@kramer6205 4 жыл бұрын
16:30 knitting lesson
@kramer6205
@kramer6205 3 жыл бұрын
@@bowiedante1106 jerk
@kyouell
@kyouell 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing your spreadsheets! I'm curious, what does the strikeout font signify? It doesn't seem to mean that row has been knitted.
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 5 жыл бұрын
I use the strikeout to mark off what I've done. I copied these spreadsheets from their original files into one spreadsheet for the video. I did a bit of clean up, so I may have removed some of the strikeout marks.
@mlboone3028
@mlboone3028 3 жыл бұрын
As an English knitter I can purl quicker than I knit
@jhannon9495
@jhannon9495 7 ай бұрын
Just learned how to purl with the yarn still in the back.
@paintnknit
@paintnknit 2 жыл бұрын
Your video is very helpful. I am a continental knitter and saw your other video. I’m trying to find an alternative to using my index finger to lever the yarn in a purl. I got the Norwegian down, but I need to knit the last stitch on a purl row since the ours is too large this way.
@mariateleptean8791
@mariateleptean8791 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Roxanne. My name is Maria and I watched your video on continental knitting. Loved it, you are an awesome teacher. However I'd like to share w you the easy way I do it. Easter European I hold the yarn on the finger such that it comes from underneath the finger and we the right needle I stay the yarn over so I can pick it and pool it through. It works really easy. The pearling I do it through the back loop, again picking the yarn, which gives the same twist. Try it if you hadn't tried it already. Let me know how do you like it. Happy knitting 😂
@eliedgecomb4903
@eliedgecomb4903 2 жыл бұрын
⭐️ for adulting around communicating.
@ingeleonora-denouden6222
@ingeleonora-denouden6222 3 жыл бұрын
I am interested in your spreadsheets. I would like to see more about how you work with them. Asked that question in your Ravelry group too
@janetdressing39
@janetdressing39 Ай бұрын
I would like to thank you for explaining how to do the Norwegian purl as an English knitter. I have tried Continental. It just doesn’t work for me. I tried Norwegian purling Continental style and that didn’t work for me either. I always go back to English style. I never saw what the problem was with English purling but I notice I always seem to scrape the bottom of my index finger on the needle when I’m wrapping English style. Repositioning my right needle to the back and then wrapping eliminates that problem. I always try to learn something new every day. Thank you, thank you thank you,
@cydnicaldwell1337
@cydnicaldwell1337 3 жыл бұрын
My trouble purling is that I purl looser when I purl. I'm trying this way to see if it will keep my tension even because I'm wrapping to knit. I'm trying it now on a swatch for a sweater.
@joyharmon1110
@joyharmon1110 5 жыл бұрын
Nice that you took the trouble to figure this out. But wouldn't it have been nice to call the lady you talked to at the retreat and ask her to show you how she does it. You don't have to always be the one with the answers. It would also have mended a fence.
@jysdesign
@jysdesign 5 жыл бұрын
Joy Harmon well she talked about it in video, try to ask other person next time. So...
@carynmakes9387
@carynmakes9387 3 жыл бұрын
Joy Harmon, she bit & you judge, she acknowledged her improper reaction... How bout you? Why judge? Now I'm guilty I judged you. I am greatful she delved into this for those who need it and find it useful.
@celiajean7093
@celiajean7093 9 ай бұрын
Like a previous commenter said, we're now at 7 million years ago in internet time 🤣, I've just learned about the "Norwegian Purl". Is this a new type of purl stitch or just another way of purling? Meaning, am I going to run into a pattern that tells me to "K2, Norwegian P2" (example). Thank you. As always, I love your videos Roxanne. 💖
@gabrielacarbo1522
@gabrielacarbo1522 5 жыл бұрын
What a good idea to use spreadsheets! I'm thinking about using them as well. When you're planning dates, how much time do you plan for finishing techniques?
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 5 жыл бұрын
It depends on the type of project and the extent of the finishing work. A sweater worked in a solid color non-superwash wool won't have many ends, because I can spit splice the end of one ball to the start of the next. If there are a lot of ends, I might spread the finishing out over a couple of days, while working on something new.
@bon47ful
@bon47ful 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Purling English style is just so un-fluid. I’ve be purling Portuguese style, but am looking forward to trying the Norwegian purl as you demonstated. Thanks again.
@katiegallant9917
@katiegallant9917 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a English knitter and my tension between knit rows and purl rows in stockinette are very different. I wonder if the method you demonstrate in this video would help tighten my tension when purling. Thanks for the video.
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 5 жыл бұрын
Report back, after you've tried it!
@aliciawalters4132
@aliciawalters4132 3 жыл бұрын
Hello can I ask why you no longer use the Norwegian pearl?
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 3 жыл бұрын
Because I found a way of purling that was rhythmically more like my knit stitch. I still use the Norwegian purl in specific circumstances, but that's it. When I used it regularly, it was the best solution for me at the time for continental purling, because I could get consistent gauge that matched my knit gauge, but like most other continental purling methods, it interrupted my knitting flow. Once I found a purling method that matched my method of creating the continental knit stitch, I used that. Every knitter has to find what works best for them.
@aliciawalters4132
@aliciawalters4132 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoxanneRichardson do you have a video on that?
@elainemcnamee3953
@elainemcnamee3953 3 жыл бұрын
I have found my purling stitches are always to loose I think the tension loosens as I purl.
@bienevallee1337
@bienevallee1337 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your Casual Fridays. Always fun and helpful. Is Norwegian purling the same as regular purling? My knitting was uneven for years. The wrong side never matched the right side. A couple of years ago I took a good look at the way the yarn on the right side came from the last stitch, then checked that way on the wrong side. It was a question of yarn tension. I came up with a new way for myself to knit the wrong side. Awkward at first, but I'm used to it and it works well for me, and I do hold the yarn between my thumb and my forefinger and can use this method to knit on the right side, if necessary. Do it all the time when I knot Anne Hansen's O, Canada.
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 5 жыл бұрын
The result of the Norwegian purl is the same as any other purling method, it's the process that's different.
@terrychristens9110
@terrychristens9110 4 жыл бұрын
My problem with purling is pain on the back of my hand running up my forearm. So the act of tilting my hand to work on the front of the needle causes pain after a lot of knitting. This might be a solution for me since my hand does feel a lot more relaxed with this variation.
@AR........
@AR........ 4 жыл бұрын
if you ever meet another english knitter who hates purling, you should recommend combination knitting! it requires much less motion than this. the only problem is that those stitches will be mounted eastern style ("wrong") but you dont need to remount it unless you're working an increase or decrease (other than ssk bc it'll already be correctly mounted for those) VeryPink Knits has a good intro to combination knitting (flicking): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j8uihdyAvqzJeok.html The Chilly Dog has a more advanced breakdown of how to work eastern-mounted stitches (continental): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bLyjY7egtLaoj5c.html
@faithlinkministries
@faithlinkministries 9 ай бұрын
I was brought up in Australia and I learned to knit here with my Welsh mum and Grandmother and I just don't get this phobia with the purl stitch - when I came into the knitting world online and saw how many people hate to purl i was shocked I am a flicker and the purl to me is the same as the plain. I have the yarn going twice around my little finger and this causes the tension for both stitches.
@debbytripp4656
@debbytripp4656 5 жыл бұрын
I was interested to see your take on the Norwegian purl in continental style. I have been playing with this on and off for a while. I will definitely be giving this technique a try. The traditional continental purl seems very inefficient to me. Thanks for the info.
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure what you mean by "the traditional continental purl." There is no one way to purl with the yarn in the left hand. Few Europeans purl the way many Americans do when purling continental. It's always worth exploring a variety of methods, in order to find an option that works for your.
@magali2702
@magali2702 5 жыл бұрын
Continental purling is in fact very efficient. You just have to be used to it.
@heather7862
@heather7862 3 жыл бұрын
This could be my solution to switching from a knit to a purl between double pointed needles. I’ll have to test it but I have so much trouble ending with a knit on one dpn and then starting with a purl on the next dpn. I have no idea why but I have to tink my stitch every time and do it over. I have found that holding the yarn under my working needle is the best way.
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 3 жыл бұрын
I knit continental, and find that the regular Norwegian purl is the best way for me to start a needle with a purl. It's handy to have multiple ways of doing things, so you can pull out a handy trick when the situation calls for it. :-)
@heather7862
@heather7862 3 жыл бұрын
Roxanne Richardson I am so awkward at continental style lol. I keep trying though! I hold the yarn in my right hand and “flick.” I never actually move the yarn, I just pivot the needles and it somehow works.
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 3 жыл бұрын
Right -- but the point was I don't use my usual method of continental purling when I start a needle. I use the Norwegian purl. For you, the English version of that might somehow work equally as well for that first stitch. :-)
@heather7862
@heather7862 3 жыл бұрын
Roxanne Richardson Thank you so much 😊!!
@gayleklein8890
@gayleklein8890 5 жыл бұрын
I'm with you...why would you do that! My wrists hurt just watching this!
@choppysocks
@choppysocks 3 жыл бұрын
If you are left handed you would know why.
@Sandra-yx6yp
@Sandra-yx6yp 5 жыл бұрын
Norwegian purl is by far the best way to purl, whether it's English or Continental, IMO
@magali2702
@magali2702 5 жыл бұрын
Not really. It always depends on what you have learnt at a young age and what you are used to.
@dawnwright5422
@dawnwright5422 4 жыл бұрын
You know I have been knitting for a short while. I have found practicing both purls each style easier once mastered. I also want to learn to do both hands equally as well . This way works for me with even tension both styles.
@courag1
@courag1 3 жыл бұрын
Your take on the English Norwegian Purl stitch was interesting, reminded me of what needle movement is in Portuguese, however in that method, the purl is easiest and the means of making the knit involves a similar strategy to get the opposite stitch and leaving the yarn in front to do it. Though I had dabbled in Portuguese, I think you need to be raised doing it. I knit for relaxation and keeping my fingers limber and in challenging my brain to remain sharp and for enjoyment. I don't get enjoyment with the yarn around my neck or having to have a necklace or pinning something to my clothing then dealing with I just made a permanent hole in my t-shirt. Yes, I like seeing what I am doing on the FRONT without the working yarn obstructing my view and so even to that end, when doing cables or sometimes even lace, if I want to be sure I am working the pattern right, I knit backwards so I can see the work as it is now on the front. I prefer to keep the working yarn in the right hand as to knit backwards right-handed is in essence Combined Continental for lefties. It is the ease of how the stitch is made and it is as Continental, a more direct means to an end and less stress on aging joints overall. If one switches the yarn to the right hand, it does not take me hardly any time. Once you get good at it, it is quick, a no-brainer. So is the needle movement trick going to make a difference for an English knitter trying to do it Norwegian method? It depends. Many knitters do develop arthritis or have a form of gout like my mother developed. Either way, her hands more or less became useless to her. We are whole people and how we live the rest of the day, impacts on whether we get arthritis or gout. By my late 50's, I was suffering the worst effects of menopause and my hands were very painful. I did artwork for a living, and before the computer, was doing it by hand, after the computer, I used software, but this method requires use of the mouse, a graphic tablet and pen and keyboard. These can be as stressful to sore joints as at the same time my hands were losing the ability to type due to painful joints. There is a relationship of what we eat to how our joints feel. Most of the day we are not eating or drinking, made sense to see if what I barely was doing in terms of time, could change how I feel. I gave up dairy and in one month my hands could move again, in three months I could manage a round door knob. By six months, open a pickle jar that had never been opened. Many people find the same relief from arthritis and gout as I did. Gout is interesting as it is too much animal protein which causes the inflamed joints and of course dairy is a high protein food. They like to think the only problem with dairy is a milk sugar issue, I have no trouble with lactose intolerance but animals protein so I likely had some gout, the extra stiffness was too much calcium which deposited in my finger joints. My doctor called it rheumatoid arthritis for which medical science says like diabetes, there is no cure, but they can managed it with drugs. If you eat right, you don't have to take drugs. I was pre-diabetic and now my blood sugar is also ideal but I went further and eliminated animal protein altogether. It is better to be able to move, I was also in a wheelchair by 57 and now I am 67 and in better health than 10 years ago. I did not get rid of the wheelchair, it has become a symbol of my triumph over arthritis. I hate the thing. In the event I did fall and break a leg, I do have it if I need it. I like thinking which is why I like knitting, my other two tasks is to not die of cancer as did most of my family or not get Alzheimer's disease as my father died of this and all of his male relatives. My memory has improved from change in diet also. When I was having kids, I was having to care for my aging parents. Now I help out my son and daughter-in-law with their twin boys born in early June 2020. Many hold off having kids till they are finished with the military and their college, buy a house, furnish it and have found their lifelong careers. Life is tough enough for this generation without trying to find time to take care of me and my husband. Love isn't just an emotion, it is finding the solution to truly help those you love. I love my family more than I love to eat the Standard American Diet.
@Keldertrapje
@Keldertrapje 3 жыл бұрын
I saw an other way to do a combined English knitting way to make the purl the Continental way with having the yarn coming from the right hand. In stead of wrapping your yarn with all these Norwegian moves. You bring the yarn as if to purl to the front of your work. Stick the right needle purlwise in the next stitch, wrap your yarn from the front over the needle . and pull.While pulling your needle goes through the loop of your left needle. and you have your purl stitch in Continental knitting with English style knitting.
@hildeknarvik2440
@hildeknarvik2440 4 жыл бұрын
I have never ever taught or set some to knit like that in me 49 years here in Norway. I did learn knit when I was four or five. Me grand mother and me mum did learn me. Off course we learn some knitting at school. The vrang maske look so strange too me. Looks like it must hurt me so bad hands so much. I have many friend here i Norway and my mum. I have never ever seen one person knitt like that. And there is so many bloogs for Norwegian knitters. I have never seen one of those knitlike that. There is also alot of videos where the jarn shop have videoes where They show how you can look at if you don’t understand. I have seen a lot of those videos. Not one show that kind of knitting. I need too look at videos because It’s not long time since i started to knit. I schould not do it at all because of me bad neck. I can’t move it at all. But knitting help me alot to think about other thing than me awfull pain 24-7 but I am so happy that I am still here. It’s just luck that I am still here. And that we diden’t hit some other people. I always speak Norwegian so my English is bad. Please don’t be mad. Ask if you don’t understand me. I do learn so much one your youtube channel. Have a nice day frome me here in cold beautifull Norway. I am so happy that we have still not got snow. But many other places have a lot of snow.
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 4 жыл бұрын
The regular Norwegian purl is done with the yarn held in the left hand, and allows the knitter to purl while the yarn is still held to the back of the work, rather than bringing it to the front, which is the standard method. Many knitters manage the yarn in their right hand, rather than their left, and struggle to purl with the yarn held in front. So, you are right, this is not really a Norwegian purl, but it's a way to identify how this method of purling is different from standard purling, allowing them to keep the yarn to the back of the work.
@karenbednarz4700
@karenbednarz4700 5 жыл бұрын
Norwegian Purl: does it stretch out the parent stitch and cause a gauge issue?
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 5 жыл бұрын
If there's any stretching out, it's unlikely to be permanent, given those sts are already formed. Gauge issues will be due to the amount of working yarn used to form the stitches. I would practice on a swatch and see how it affects your gauge. Every knitter is different.
@joyharmon1110
@joyharmon1110 5 жыл бұрын
That's exactly the problem I had with the Master Crochet Course. I think they need to get their names right. If it's a certification "test," it should be called a test. When you sign up for an Masters program , you may have to pass a test, but only after a series of classes or courses where some expertise is expected, but you learn more and more deeply. I am wondering how the feedback on either of these programs is working. When I took the Master in Crochet course, the evaluation program took so long that I finally dropped out of the program. This was early days. I'm wondering if that part has improved. Anyone taken either the Crochet or Knit Masters course in the last year?
@Pesto_O
@Pesto_O 3 жыл бұрын
doesnt this stretch out the stich on the left needle?
@ritagraham6703
@ritagraham6703 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Just wondering, though. Does a Norwegian Purl (either Continental or English) take more yarn than a traditional Purl method?
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson Жыл бұрын
Only if you work it at a looser tension. There's nothing structurally different from the result.
@bratmamma
@bratmamma 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Arne and Carlos’ purling cha cha cha.
@eileenfb1948
@eileenfb1948 2 жыл бұрын
Today I was practising continental knitting of ribbing for socks. I am English and normally knit in the English way. I LOVE the Norwegian way of purling when ribbing BUT without my index finger held stiffly up away from the knitting. On the Arne and Carlos channel they say it was originally done like this by the older people. They don't know how it began that the index finger is held rigid to control the wool/yarn. Interesting.
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 2 жыл бұрын
An extended finger isn't a stiff finger if the way your hands hold the needles creates a more open palm with the needles levered against the edge of the palm. If you naturally hold the needles with closed hands and you try to extend your finger, that would be stiff and uncomfortable. Because of the way I naturally hold the needles, if I try to hold them so that they are closed around the needles, I have to clench, which I'm pretty sure isn't the case for people who naturally work with their hands closed.
@eileenfb1948
@eileenfb1948 2 жыл бұрын
@@RoxanneRichardson That makes sense, thank you
@kimberlyharner2341
@kimberlyharner2341 3 жыл бұрын
As a devoted English knitter I feel that Norwegian purling is a waste on motion...I am so right hand dominate that I can’t knit continental.
@ashleyweldon3140
@ashleyweldon3140 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very right hand dominant, but as a crochet-convert, left-handed yarn management is very natural to me. (Maybe the only thing that's easily done with my left.) Isn't it interesting how something seemingly so uniform can have do many variants? There really are only 2 stitches, but so many ways to make them.
@nuvoclassic
@nuvoclassic 2 ай бұрын
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@patrickhart8595
@patrickhart8595 5 жыл бұрын
I will give the English Norwegian purl a try
@patrickhart8595
@patrickhart8595 5 жыл бұрын
Roxanne, I have been playing with this english Norwegian purl and I found I like it. Typically when I work a 'wrong side' purl row I always found my first few stitches were loose, then it would get better tension-wise. What I have been doing is using this method you showed for the first 3 stitches of a purl row, and then doing the rest my usual way. It has really helped even out my tension on those initial stitches. Thank you for taking the time to work out this technique, I think it will help a lot of people. Have a wonderful day!
@deeraines9416
@deeraines9416 5 жыл бұрын
I am going to go watch the other video, but what are examples of why one would need to use the Norwegian purl?
@angko-pe
@angko-pe 5 жыл бұрын
I simply can't purl any other way.
@gloelisi8100
@gloelisi8100 5 жыл бұрын
@Dee Raines have you found an answer to your question? The technique is the only difference. It is not that the stitch looks different. Similar to how left-handed people hold pencils differently. Most of my family are left-handed and my uncle wraps his fingers back toward the palm of his hand as he writes, as if he is making a fist. The writing looks the same as my mother's and she barely curls her wrist; while I do neither. Instead of bending/curling my hand I turn the paper 90° and write vertical from the outside edge inwards to my body. While returning to knitting after a 30 year break due to hand pain and cramping from English-throwing technique I decided to look on the internet for examples of knitting techniques used by arthritis sufferers. So as I experiment I have tried continental and combined and like any journey sometimes looking at the cracks sidewalk is just as fun as reaching the destination. I wish you joy in your upcoming projects.
@magali2702
@magali2702 5 жыл бұрын
No idea, why one should need to use it. I won't use it, I consider my Continental purl quite a lot easier and more efficient. For me it's just interesting to know that there are different ways to get the same results.
@magali2702
@magali2702 5 жыл бұрын
@@gloelisi8100 I'm lefthanded as well, but was forced to write with my right hand in grade 1 at primary school. Really harrassing in those days, but now I'm glad to be able to use both hands for everthing if necessary, although I mostly use my left hand. In spite of suffering from arthritis, I have no problem or pain knitting the continental way. Now, being a pensioner, I knit all day without any health problems, as I am bored and have nothing else to do. I suppose you have to decide for yourself, what the best knitting technique is for you.
@orangew3988
@orangew3988 3 жыл бұрын
So, I hold the needles with a closed hand, rather than an open hand, which served me perfectly holding the yarn in my right hand, but to get into stranded knitting I needed to learn how to hold the yarn in my left hand. Because of my closed hand grip, I could never get the hang of the continental method, holding up your first finger to move the yarn. Therefore I find the Norwegian style of continental knitting and purling really suits me as it can be used with a closed hand grip, and I can keep even tension on the yarn.
@debhowley
@debhowley Жыл бұрын
I have recently been experimenting with Norwegian Purl and somehow, in spite of all that movement, it seems to be a ‘tighter’ purl? I should take the time to actually swatch this out to confirm. I’ve been an English knitter for like 40 years. The last five I’ve worked on becoming a Continental knitter as it seems more efficient. Sadly, I’ve found it seems to irritate a tendon in my left elbow. Strange lump appeared, that goes flat if I’m not knitting regularly or go back to throwing. My purling issue seems to happen in both styles. When going from knit to purl I always end up with an elongated stitch. This doesn’t happen with purl to knit, so when cabling or some other pattern with similar sides, the knit to purl side doesn’t match. Loosely, goosey and unattractive. I’ve tried various methods of tightening it up and they just aren’t very intuitive and don’t really seem to work out well. I feel like keeping the yarn in back somehow keeps the stitch from using more yarn, or intuitively tightens things up as I move to the next stitch. I wonder if anyone else has experienced this?
@nessakennedy7864
@nessakennedy7864 Жыл бұрын
It looks so much work compared with just English pulling.
@Lisa-nc9ek
@Lisa-nc9ek 3 жыл бұрын
The true Norwegian Purl does not hold the left index finger in the air. The yarn and finger stay close against the left hand needle and so the movement is much more fluid than you demonstration.
@petermatten3315
@petermatten3315 Жыл бұрын
When you say English knitters, do you mean American English knitting ,or how they knit in England with the wool held in the right hand, with the right hand needle held like a pencil.
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson Жыл бұрын
When I say "English," I mean yarn in the right hand. There are many variations on that method, even within England. Neither England nor the US are a monolith, when it comes to knitting styles.
@justcheckingchicken1357
@justcheckingchicken1357 8 ай бұрын
Put your right needle under your arm and let your hands be free purling is really easy 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@kjrussell8831
@kjrussell8831 3 жыл бұрын
I find Portuguese purling is easy and quicker than the Norwegian, English, and Continental purls!
@vindeljay
@vindeljay 3 жыл бұрын
I can see that it can be done, but who would want to when pearling the english way is just as easy as knitting. This just seems so time consuming.
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 3 жыл бұрын
Purling is just as easy for *you*. It's not for many knitters, which is why they are looking for an alternative method, either because they struggle to complete the stitches, or have pain, or because their tension is different with knits and purls. I always thought knitting and purling were essentially the same movements, because that's how it was with my knitting. Then I started really watching other knitters and how they knit, and realized the wide range of differences in how people handle the yarn and in how they hold their needles.
@donnanorris4733
@donnanorris4733 5 жыл бұрын
I am an English knitter and I found your instructions quite confusing. Whatever I do, I do it so quickly it really doesn't matter if I knit or purl. I tried continental knitting once and found the purling quite awkward. I am also left handed - so maybe that is easier doing the English method. My right index finger does all the work regardless whether I purl or knit.
@smallfootprint2961
@smallfootprint2961 5 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a demonstration of you knitting. Sounds easy and fascinating.
@magali2702
@magali2702 5 жыл бұрын
whatever one is used to ;). I find the English way of knitting quite awkward as I am used to the Continental style. I'm lefthanded as well, by the way.
@justcheckingchicken1357
@justcheckingchicken1357 8 ай бұрын
The length of your fingers causes me a problem (small hands)
@joyharmon1110
@joyharmon1110 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm?? Getting to know other knitters who do things you like but may not want to knit could be great for establishing a trade!
@libbyworkman3459
@libbyworkman3459 Жыл бұрын
You said, maybe there was something I missed. Well, yes. You missed an opportunity to be kind. You missed an opportunity to ask her to show you what she meant. After all, you were at a retreat. That is where ideas are exchanged is it not? What you are doing is an unnecessary complication of the purl stitch. Her way may have been much better.
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