The Virus that F***ed us all | Nostalgia Nerd
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Күн бұрынGet Surfshark VPN at surfshark.deals/NostalgiaNerd - Enter promo code NostalgiaNerd for 83% off and 3 extra months FREE. Thanks to Surfshark for sponsoring ~ Malware, computer viruses and computer worms are rife. They're so rife that antivirus software is now standard on Windows operating systems, and we're routinely advised to upgrade to something more "secure". But the origin of the computer virus, of computer worms may surprise you, because it wasn't actually from a malevolent desire at all. It was in fact born out of intrigue and the desire to actually help productivity, rather than destroy it. In this episode I'm exploring the Creeper Worm; created by Bob Thomas and Ray Tomlinson back in the 70s. But alongside Creeper, I'm also looking at Reaper, and a slew of other computer worms that were created by Xerox in the early 80s. Because without Creeper, Reaper and Xerox, our computing landscape would look very different today.
⌚️Timeline⌚️
0:00-02:04 Introduction to Computer Viruses
02:04-03:17 Surfshark
03:17-04:23 CoreWar
04:23-06:37 ARPANET
06:37-09:20 Creeper
09:20-12:30 Reaper
12:30-15:29 Worm Origins
15:29-17:10 Xerox Problems
17:10-18:58 Viruses Everywhere
18:58-20:50 Closing
20:50-21:50 Credits
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@AlanPope Жыл бұрын
I wrote a virus for the BBC Micro back in the day (~1989). It wasn't super harmful, but would move the !boot file and replace it with the virus loader. It would sit in sideways RAM, and every 32 times you hard-reset (ctrl+break) the BBC, it would print "hello world" in double-height dual-colour mode 7 text on boot. I had all my floppy disks confiscated at college as a result. Oopsie.
@ukwebb Жыл бұрын
every 32 times? it must have hardly ever run, 9 time out of 10 you need to power cycle the beeb to get it to reset properly which wipes the sideways ram - which only the master had as standard too
@AlanPope Жыл бұрын
@@ukwebb I was *trying* not to get caught. :D. Figured it popped up too often, people would freak out while I'm in the room. The room was full of BBC Masters, and most of the time we were just writing BASIC and inline 6502, so a soft reset was fine. Also, it always *ran* and would replace !boot on every floppy it found, it just wouldn't display anything until 32 restarts had happened.
@jimsmind3894 Жыл бұрын
I did exactly the same in the early 90's on the Acorn Archimedes at my school! My friends and I found a virus on a magazine cover floppy and managed to disassemble and understand how it worked. It would load on inserting a floppy (they automatically got mounted and loaded on insert on the Acorn). It would sit as a module in ram and check if a new floppy was inserted, then it would replicate onto the boot file. It did nothing more than that, used a bit of ram and replicated. We modified it so when our teachers enabled the write key on the network drive (when no students were around), we could automatically copy our games over into an obscure location on the network drive! It was so much fun!
@ukwebb Жыл бұрын
@@AlanPope i'd have gone for the "freak-out" option personally - infact pretty sure i did, but on the Ecoonet network - I'd hacked the teachers admin password ;)
@fsturmat Жыл бұрын
hard-resetting the BBC... so that's what kids were up to these days
@jpaulc441 Жыл бұрын
When I was really young I watched an Are You Afraid of the Dark episode about a computer virus and became fascinated with it. I remember typing "input virus" into the school library computer thinking it would actually create a virus. I still cringe about this.
@PanekPL Жыл бұрын
Rightfully so
@alancarr1056 Жыл бұрын
I have that scene with the port in the dudes hand burned into my mind
@Kekimus Жыл бұрын
@@alancarr1056 man I thought that was a fever dream.
@DoomIIMaster Жыл бұрын
Loved 'Are You Afraid of the Dark' as a kid. 8:24PM 8/23
@mudmeadows Жыл бұрын
i think youre a legend
@DustinRodriguez1_0 Жыл бұрын
When I was in high school I worked at a company that did mail processing. One of the services they offered was printing envelopes, folding big piles of direct mail material (junk mail and such), stuffing the envelopes, etc. This required them to get mailing lists of names and addresses from customers. They opted for a policy of telling customers "give it to us in absolutely any format whatsoever, and we'll figure it out". I was the one who got to 'figure it out'. By reusing a floppy in their systems and my home system, I discovered on my home system which had AV that the disk was infected with a virus... I want to say Nimda but I could be wrong. So I took an AV program to work and got to scanning the disks we had received from customers. I actually traced it back and found its origin. We had a write-protected floppy from a Radio Shack which was infected. And no disks from before that were infected, and all after it were infected. One problem. We had sent disks BACK to many of these customers. Any disk which had been used in those systems would have carried the infection. I went to the owners and told them this and said they should tell the customers... but they elected not to, fearing they'd be liable for cleanup costs. Bleh.
@madsfiedler3884 Жыл бұрын
fucking e w im so sorry ab that
@ocoolwow Жыл бұрын
Yeah but they aren't wrong people are so stupid they will blame the people warning them because they couldn't possibly be at fault...
@endoflevelboss Жыл бұрын
Nimda was around 2000/2001. We got a bad strike of it where I worked then. Nimda, (admin backwards) hit our webservers which got simultaneously tagged with "Fuck China Government" pages - big red letters on a black screen. Wouldn't have minded but we had to use that webserver to present to at a press event to over 150 customers, 30 mins after we just discovered it... We used a backup laptop as the webserver for the presentation. We didn't know if the laptop was also infected too. Each time we clicked on a link during the show we shit ourselves and kept thinking the F-China message was going to pop up. Thankfully it didn't :/
@garylshawiii483 Жыл бұрын
You were basically a doctor
@Togepiification Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the story I heard from an HP engineer about the origin of the word "bug" in common language. They were debugging some huge physical computer with vacuum tubes back in the day, and trying to figure out why calculations were coming up wrong -- but only some of the time. They combed through the system until they found a moth, or some other type of "real bug" which was sometimes landing on the equipment and causing small short-circuits. They called the act of searching for the error "debugging" because of the bug they found. Probably a folk-tale, but I found it interesting.
@Khenfu_Cake Жыл бұрын
It's not a myth; it did indeed happen. The word bug had been a common term in various fields to describe unexpected issues for a long time, but its usage in computer science did indeed gain traction after Grace Hopper (for anyone unfamiliar with her she's widely considered one of the early pioneers in computer programming. She, among other things, invented one of the first linkers) and her team who were working on the Mark II computer at Harvard University in 1947 found a moth stuck inside of it. They taped the moth into the logbook and wrote a tongue in cheek notation which said: "First actual case of bug being found". Ever since this incident 'debugging' became a common phrase in computer science due to this story being retold by Hopper and her colleagues. The logbook with the moth can be found at the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of American History in Washington, D.C.
@felixjohnson3874 4 ай бұрын
Pretty sure it would have been relay logic rather than vacuum tubes, but yeah it happened
@BeatboxNorwich Жыл бұрын
The first 'Virus' we ever got turned out to be a dialer exploit on Win 98 and we got stung quite a large bill from Tuvalu. The PC never got infected though. Mother was pissed off at the phone bill while I sat and learnt PCs. The fooking thing didn't work on arrival so I had to take it to bits to fix it and I'm still doing it 24 years on. It's a good career path!
@slowyourroll1146 2 ай бұрын
what material did you start learning about PCs with? there's so much educational content out there but it's hard to figure out where to start!
@BeatboxNorwich 2 ай бұрын
Screwdrivers and hands mate
@makethingsbetter Жыл бұрын
I recall my pal and I reworking a virus to cause actual physical damage to a system, because we thought it would be fun to see if we could. Two things happened, we overloaded a circuit on the mother board by changing the result signals, and the floppy drive never stopped clicking, being told a disk was in the drive and then the screen was burnt by an image on small cluster of pixels always on bright white. Those days were fun, Paul, I miss you my friend. Have fun hacking the big space in the sky!
@DFX2KX Жыл бұрын
those sorts of physical damage exploits are mercifully rare in the computer world. Buuuuuuut in the age of Zip Disks, an acquaintance of mine successfully destroyed the drives of several classrooms. How? he got a disk corrupted with the now-infamous 'click of death' hardware fault. He got a new sticker, wrote "Porn" on it, and left it in the men's locker room. "Well, I dunno, my drive's busted, here, you try it!" made manifest.
@splitt3r Жыл бұрын
I wonder if this sort of virus is possible on modern hardware, like a virus that flashes the BIOS with a custom version and when the system reboots it sends 3V to the CPU and RAM. Not sure if there is any sort of hardware protection or if it just hasn't been an issue because there's not much motivation to make a virus that just destroys things
@makethingsbetter Жыл бұрын
@@splitt3r I would imagine most memory resident AV or malware situations would capture it. But who is going to test that on their new hardware lol 😆 not me! Ha!
@nessamillikan6247 Жыл бұрын
Your username is in such an ironic contrast to your comment that I had to laugh!
@VitorFM Жыл бұрын
I remember when I was in school to attempt to magnetize those tube display with magnets, just for phun... This creates an permanent color pattern on the screen. Yet, I also discovery that spinning the same magnets fast enough with an electric motor, I was able to demagnetize it, and fix it!
@jim2lane Жыл бұрын
Xerox had an amazing resource at their PARC facility. In addition to major contributions towards the creation of Ethernet, they also created the first true GUI interface, laser printer, fax machine and VCR technology. Sadly, Xerox was run by what we called "Toner Heads". People who came up through the ranks selling copiers, so if it didn't look or act like a copier they had no idea what to do with it. So, aside from the laser printer, those technologies ended up being either sold or just given away to other companies. **sigh** what might have been
@AsherBunnyman Жыл бұрын
Good God, that is some truly stunning stupidity. Thank you for the history lesson.
@jim2lane Жыл бұрын
@@AsherBunnyman with their exclusive patents on the xerographic copier running through the 70's and into the 80's, Xerox was just so flush with money that they just didn't care that much about what other technologies those egg heads out in Palo Alto came up with. It's the ultimate case study in American corporate short-term think
@Tom55data Жыл бұрын
Yes Xerox parc is famous in computing and maths world.
@presidentkiller Жыл бұрын
They also created the computer mouse. The GUI needed it.
@jim2lane Жыл бұрын
@@presidentkiller The PARC mouse is generally recognized as the first mouse designed for the modern computer. However, the first functional mouse is credited to Doug Engelbart and Bill English at Stanford way back in 1964
@solomonthegrundit8737 Жыл бұрын
I’m 23, and for all you teens out there, I have one piece of advice. When you go somewhere for a few days that you know is gonna be one of the best things you’ll do for a while, (for example, for me, it was a school football tour with my mates, and a trip to Germany with my best friends), listen to 4 or 5 songs only, whenever you have the time in that trip. They don’t have to be songs that u love, and u can do other things while you’re listening. What that did for me was, whenever I listened to those songs in the future, I had such nostalgia. Please, just try it.
@megarural3000 Жыл бұрын
8:36 "There was nothing malicious behind Creeper." Unintentionally hilarious line.
@Narinjas Жыл бұрын
#MineCraftMind
@robdom91 Жыл бұрын
Clearly they never tried catching one. I wouldn't recommend it, especially with a full inventory.
@Shpooky Жыл бұрын
Minecraft's Grim "Reaper"? Ahaha. End me.
@megarural3000 Жыл бұрын
@@Shpooky Grim Creeper
@FewVidsJustComments Жыл бұрын
creeper? aww man
@ProlificInvention Жыл бұрын
The first computer virus I got was ©1994-1995 on my stepdads 386 SX 25 with a turbo button. We were hooked to compuserve and I had downloaded an early visualization program and some other games like scorched earth mostly from BBS and Compuserve. Somewhere along the line I got a virus which was like a little worm that would go across the screen left to right, top to bottom "eating" the screen as it went and leaving behind solid black. After awhile I figured out it had affected all the software and my stepdad trashed it and all our 3.5 inch floppies as to not infect the new 486 dx33 we replaced it with.
@StormClassX Жыл бұрын
F**king... comupserve... if those weren't the days am I right? The only way I had to access the world wide web proper was through a telnet terminal I had in college (UTK)Funny thought.. pages were more visual centric back then. I could read nearly every page if it was text only these days. Back in the early 90s... text only was a massive handicap.
@jonmcentire Жыл бұрын
Great story, to bad for trashing the 386, could've been saved by wiping the hard drive with some software on a write protected floppy.
@Froobyone Жыл бұрын
I'm here for the turbo button. I had an SX25. I would gaze longingly at those with the DX33s. Oh how I coveted a math co-processor!
@ProlificInvention Жыл бұрын
@@Froobyone I regretted not mentioning the whole math coprocessor upgrade deal literally 1 moment after I posted that 😆
@ProlificInvention Жыл бұрын
@@jonmcentire I think they were mostly trashed, I was a scrapper for 20 years and scrapped multiple thousands of every type of electronics including most makes and models of computers. The only one I never found (that I always looked for) was a Commodore PET with a cassette drive and all those fantastic games like lemonade stand and Oregon trail, etcetera. My elementary school had those and apple IIEs-we eventually became one of the first schools to get the original black and white macintosh computers when I was in 4th grade, and I saw all the PETs in a back hallway after that... On the plus side I put all the circuit boards in 25% acetic acid (strong vinegar) for years to retrieve many precious metals
@razi_man Жыл бұрын
Pretty much a computer virus that makes you go: "Aw, man."
@presidentkiller Жыл бұрын
I have a new rule that came (pun intended) from the infamous "Rule 34": if it exists, it can be weaponized. Even if people back then didn't create Creeper, Reaper and Vampire, somebody somewhere would've created them eventually, just because they could and human curiosity is unlimited.
@shawnl1155 Жыл бұрын
Holy smokes, this was a seriously high quality video. This is something I imagine that I would have watched on TechTV as a kid. You’ve got a whole vibe here.
@jamesfigueroa8610 Жыл бұрын
Remembered The I love you virus and thinking no one would fell for this. Then half the office got the virus.
@robdavis8556 Жыл бұрын
Still can't quite believe I opened it 🤣. Was an interesting learning experience. Literally pulled the network plug to stop it sending. Then my colleagues and I pulled the VB source apart. Had a detailed report of how it worked and what damage it was causing long before any official announcements. Lost some cool hand made GIFs that day 😭😶
@CarletoGamesCGYT674 Жыл бұрын
The guy that saw the "I'm the Creeper" message: "Creeper? Aww man!".
@thesteelrodent1796 Жыл бұрын
in modern day you can't search for creeper without having to sift through a pile of minecraft references
@tolindaniel Жыл бұрын
From the title, I thought this was going to be a story on the Blaster Worm from the early 'oughts. What a pleasant surprise, I hadn't heard this story before!
@metazshanstark91 Жыл бұрын
Same here, I totally fo enjoy new content and stories I've never heard before as well! So refreshing to the open mind for information.
@ideegeniali Жыл бұрын
I programmed a DOS computer virus when i was 15. It spread on my classmates PCs uncatched. It copied itself from exe file to exe file as many viruses of the era. It was set to activate at a certain date and play a tune and display singalong words on screen and imped running infected exe files. I got calls from upset parents of classmates to my parents (no cell phones back then, just landline phones) that needed use PC for serious staff. If i were lazy i wouldn't have programmed antivirus and would have fucked many PCs. Thankfully i programmed self-distruct routine for any date after a different date and could instruct over the phone to change system date and run to get back clean exe files! I was expecting PCs to stay not operative for one week and then magically work again with nobody guessing who or why. I was not expecting calls at home first day! Had it a bug, it could have spread uncontrolled. Fortunately it had not bugs, worked ok, and all copies self-distructed themselves!
@Fireberries Жыл бұрын
How were you caught?
@person749 Жыл бұрын
And everybody clapped ! 👏
@sheamichael2004 Жыл бұрын
What software did you use?
@DyoKasparov Жыл бұрын
Don't fuck computers tho, can be painful
@01DOGG01 Жыл бұрын
I did a similar thing with fake game installation floppies. It had a fake animated (using manually-drawn ascii screens) installation menu, and hijacked the autoexec.bat and config.sys files. After 'installation' was finished, it rebooted and displayed a picture of an alien instead of loading up DOS or Windows. I programmed a password into it that you could type in to reverse the whole process, but it was scary unleashing it because I knew that if it had a bug, it'd be a lot of work to fix things. Thankfully it ran 100% according to expectations and was just a stupid joke I played on people rather than causing longer-term headaches.
@GeirEivindMork Жыл бұрын
In the 80s my friend did a practical joke on his mother, who was a teacher. He installed a cascade virus emulator in the boot. So while she was working on one of her school related documents, the letters suddenly started to drop into the bottom of the screen. She was my class teacher so I knew her temperament very well, and could vividly imagine the reaction when he explained it. She wasn't amused, to say the least. Their computer costed over 7 000 usd in todays money, and I assume she was afraid he had broken it or something. He did write a harmless virus himself in assembly, but never spread it. I wasn't even given a copy, just shown it. I was not profilent in assembly at the time, so my try at the same was in turbo pascal which wasn't exactly equally impressive. Worked more like a self-replicating trojan.
@wobblycentaur Жыл бұрын
I used the pdp 10 you featured in 1970. Hatfield polytechnic as the university of hertfordshire was then shared a site with Hatfield Grammar school , we had teletype 33 terminals to access the computer in a small broom cupboard , we cut cards by hand as only the sixth formers were to use the paper tape puncher/ reader on the teletype 33. Later at Further Ed college we had modem access to the by then upgraded to pdp11 at the Hatfield poly at I think 300 baud. We tapped the number out on the handset to bypass the dial lock to prevent u using it out of hours , the tapping was enough to convince the strowger exchange the number had been dialled.
@kaitlyn__L Жыл бұрын
It’s particularly fascinating that their envisioned worms involved surreptitiously doing complex work at the infected’s expense, but until recently most such malware largely did simple yet frustrating tasks (such as deleting or encrypting your files). But they predicted crypto-trojans and crypto-worms quite successfully! Especially with how some of these leave no traces and run unnoticed in some web pages, or find their way into large corporate networks to suck 5-10% CPU on their own tasks. Edit: I suppose botnets could be a similar sort of “actually used for something” effect earlier on, but that doesn’t parcel-up the work among various instances of itself in the same way. They just sit there until they’re told to do something else, rather than going out and finding hosts for a specific task.
@FatNorthernBigot Жыл бұрын
I remember the first time I heard the phrase "computer virus". It was 1989, and we all had a good laugh, as we programmed the work's mainframe in COBOL.
@Big_Tex Жыл бұрын
Sometimes the old ways are best 🤣
@FatNorthernBigot Жыл бұрын
@@Big_Tex they're sure as shit more secure.
@the_kombinator Жыл бұрын
My first interaction with one was the ANTIEXE virus in the early 90s. It infected so many of my diskettes. I still have a copy saved :D
@FatNorthernBigot Жыл бұрын
@@the_kombinator It was like the wild west of PCs in the 90s. Anything went. I miss those times.
@carddamom188 Жыл бұрын
Now I remember when the mainframe that its programmed in COBOL, was infected by a virus... One could see the execs, almost ready to jump of the window... What a glorious day...
@jmalmsten Жыл бұрын
The blurred background copy for portrait video... Words cannot describe how hard it becomes for me to watch that... People talk about seasickness from handheld video. That's probably the closest I can describe the sensation of unease and tension in my eyes as I struggle to follow what is supposed to be shown in the nonblurred foreground copy... The video in general is great, filled with awesome content and information. It's just those segments that stick out so much.
@pettersvard5990 Жыл бұрын
Yes why is it so hard for some people to tilt the phone to landscape mode?
@jmalmsten Жыл бұрын
@@pettersvard5990 It's not that I have problems with. Ok, at least not just that. It's more the blurred copy background. All it does is draw the viewers (my) eyes outside the nonblurred area with movements that are somewhat synchronized with what is in the foreground. Portrait video is another pet peeve in general, but it is very watchable if the background is kept nondistracting. At least that's my experience.
@Flightkitten Жыл бұрын
The steam notification noise at 7:17 got me very confused for a second. Excellent mini-documentary!
@hdufort Жыл бұрын
The virus that caused the most damage among my friend who owned a PC in the early 1990s was Stoned. Another one that was really destructive, later, was the Happy New Year 1999 (Happy99). I know an IT company where most PCs had been infected.
@tomd96 Жыл бұрын
There's a KZfaq channel I used to follow called danooct1 that has a lot videos on the older DOS viruses, some are flashy, others not so much.
@imskyskyhigh Жыл бұрын
1:34 I thought that was my Steam, you're evil for selecting that sound effect
@DanielMReck Жыл бұрын
"RAYMOND!!" Please keep up this informative and entertaining work. It is important to preserve this early computing history in a way that modern computer users understand.
@MadsonOnTheWeb Жыл бұрын
Von Neumann was a father of everything. Every area he touched it came out something revolutionary. What a legend
@josephfranzen9196 Жыл бұрын
Your channel is the only reason why I still have the KZfaq App on my phones and tablets. The quality and depth of research that are presented in your videos are second to none. When I was stationed at Ft. Belivoir in 05, there’s a small display that has some of this older hardware on display, it was neat stuff.
@thomasrotweiler Жыл бұрын
John Bunner's "Shockwave Rider" from 1975 is well worth reading, even though it's nearly 50 years old.
@The8BitDrummer Жыл бұрын
Congratz on 500k! :D
@growdot1961 Жыл бұрын
Woah. Never thought i would find 8 bit drummer here!
@rashkavar Жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that while early professional experimentation with self-replicating programs provided the source for viruses and worms, it also provided the source for the kind of software designed to detect and remove such problematic programs. I'm kinda glad those developed concurrently - can you imagine how bad the situation might be if there was a 3-4 year lag time between the development of viruses and countermeasures had they developed in the early 90s once the internet was a thing. (Because clearly *someone* was going to come up with the idea, even if it wasn't professionals back in the days of secure closed WANs like the Arpanet) Having the concept around back in those days also meant that there was an idea of security to protect against such malicious software being built into operating systems like UNIX. Or being completely ignored as the case may be. (Looks at Microsoft.)
@joeharley1423 Жыл бұрын
Loved this one! Really interesting and in depth video - really pleased you’re still making them in light of your recent video on having enough with KZfaq.
@JP-dv7rf Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these videos. You have such a talent for making them and your passion for the topics is clear.
@johnussss Жыл бұрын
The craziest virus I remember was the Blaster Virus, affected every XP machine in 2003 that connected to the internet, it also caused havoc with win2k ... it could not detect the OS and only 1 in 3 times affected a 2k machine, but even when it guessed wrong while attempting to infect 2k it would crash instances of Services Host and infect RPC DCOM You would not be able to open new instances of a web browser, this was before tabbed browsing and everything you clicked on on Microsoft's site back then opened in a new window, so getting the patch from them was a chore as you'd end up with the problem before you obtained the patch,
@PashPaw Жыл бұрын
ARPANet would have used a different protocol than TCP/IP called Network Control Protocol. TCP/IP wasn't adopted until 1983. But, TENEX did evolve into a fully fledged operating system called TWENEX and there are a few TWENEX nodes on the net still. There's also an effort to resurrect this protocol for historical purposes right now.
@T.O.A.D.U.K Жыл бұрын
Another great video. Really knocking it out of the park. I loved the Renault 19 video (my dad had several as company cars). You truly are the king of nostalgia to me.
@DeathMetalDerf Жыл бұрын
This is really right up my street. I'm currently working on a master's in cyber security and network engineering, and this kind of stuff is just endlessly fascinating to me. Thanks for a super interesting and very informative video. I love this channel, and I can't wait to see what's next!!!
@ellinorengstrom5226 Жыл бұрын
The editing in this video is on point. This is the most interesting video you have made in ages. Keep it up and i hope it gets a million views!
@Colin_Ames Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video related to computing history. Keep them coming.
@rickwitt5735 Жыл бұрын
This was one of the most informative videos I've watched in some time. It's much appreciated. Keep up the great content!
@SamSmithsamek15 Жыл бұрын
I really do appreciate all the content you've given myself and others through the years.
@rthefish Жыл бұрын
Good to see you back in form. Excellent vid.
@Modenut Жыл бұрын
"like it or love it" 😄 Btw, remember the cih virus? That nasty thing utterly destroyed one of my computers in the latter half of the 90s. It wiped the bios (or the cmos, I forget) and that was that lol. 😬
@Shifter-1040ST Жыл бұрын
Yeah that one was nasty. It was also known as Chernobyl. The only virus to ever completely and utterly nuke my system.
@Modenut Жыл бұрын
@@Shifter-1040ST lol god dammit. I still get annoyed about it 😄
@DSonBlue Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating thank you! I’ve been in IT since the start and I never knew half the stuff you’ve taken the time to research here. Great vid.
@Bobsmithgeorgette Жыл бұрын
These history videos are the best content you create. Please keep em coming!!!
@RamonHernandez Жыл бұрын
Learned about the Morris worm in college. It was fascinating at the time. Thank you for reminding me about it.
@1967CougarXR7 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the new video. I've been going through the back catalog of older stuff like byte size. This one is like those. Thanks.
@sn1000k Жыл бұрын
Nice one! I feel like you're honing in on more interesting subject matter with this series on virii. Thanks!
@dannywhite9975 Жыл бұрын
"The Shockwave Rider" by John Brunner was ahead of time. Hopefully if u want we'll get a deep dive into that forgotten SF masterpiece by 1 of yr as always insightful analysis.
@mme725 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Love these storied history segments :)
@Jablicek Жыл бұрын
This was fascinating! Thanks for doing all the research :)
@Slurkz Жыл бұрын
Amazing documentary! Thanks a lot.💜
@KOTYAR0 Жыл бұрын
Amazing documentary. Thank you
@italsounds001 Жыл бұрын
I started working for IBM in 1988, in that same year, working for the PC repair operation (called service point) I was accused of transmitting a “virus” between 2 internal computers that had been in the workshop for repair, and given a dressing down, even though at the time, running any sort of anti virus program was not normal practise, the software wasn’t available to me, but the PC in question had come from IBM labs, who were ahead of the game, and the PC in question was an early pc luggable from the labs, it wasn’t possible to prove where the virus had originated or if we were responsible for spreading it, in fact most of my management didn’t have a clue what a virus was, that resulted in a change across the organisation. Having access to labs PCs though did give me an early opportunity to experience the next generation of just about every advancement at the time, including VR in IBM PC’s, computers filled with memory, the hard drives with more than 20mb storage, the virtual guitar, the first IBM laptop and thinkpad (after the portables) and the internet/bulletin boards, very early on.
@MrCalldean Жыл бұрын
Already left a comment, but this was such good vid, it deserves two; this is what I watch for - I could watch you talk about any old shit, but I love these more in depth, historical. vids.
@monkeyman767 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating look into viruses, it started with an honestly good idea, also never knew xerorx's involvement. Love the length of these too
@RocketRoosterFilms Жыл бұрын
and what makes it better is that xerox makes copiers. the files copy themselves like the copiers do!
@woodand Жыл бұрын
awesome.... brilliantly researched and presented ..
@binkman853 Жыл бұрын
Another great piece of history. Excellent as always. Thanks!
@HouseOfFunQM Жыл бұрын
Vampires are genuinely the most terrifying thing to me. I don't know why. I think it has like a "monster in cupboard" vibe - that computers will come to life and start ruining your life whilst you're asleep.
@gzamboni Жыл бұрын
Hello Sir!! Good to see your content here! You made my afternoon happier! cheers mate.
@TheInternetHelpdeskPlays Жыл бұрын
This is amazing and informative. And I hate to say it but your talking head bits have a frequency distortion in the background.
@Zeroharpe Жыл бұрын
Everytime the bleep sound played, I thought it was one of my many bleeping programs, even though I have no programs that make that bleep.
@nimrodlevy Жыл бұрын
Impressive research! loved it! many thanks!
@cheezburgrproduction Жыл бұрын
Expertly made thoroughly enjoyable!
@randy7894 Жыл бұрын
What a fascenating docu, nn. Thanks again for free high quality infotainment!
@Tr6e9nT Жыл бұрын
Glad you posted again, I missed your insight.
@thisisakodibox2635 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating work! Could you do one on the origins of Neverlock?
@Charlesb88 Жыл бұрын
A minor correction, but ARPANET did not start out using the TCP protocol. Originally it used Network Control Protocol (NCP), a name given to it only after TCP was developed starting in 1973 by Vinson Cerf and Robert E. Kahn (and later others). By the late 70s, the superior TCP was taking over ARPANET and the outdated NCP was seeing it’s use decline drastically. In the late 70s, work was begun to merge several different national networks that had been running at the time into one using the TCP/IP protocol. By 1983, ARPANET officially abandoned NCP for good and all ARPANET servers became “Internet” Servers. The old original ARPANET NCP based network was now officially dead. The ARPANET project, now running under TCP/IP, continued on until 1990 which by then it was considered to have succeeded in its goals and was shut down for good. By then the “Internet” was officially global and self-supporting save for government orgs in charge of handing out IP address pools and Domain names, which later would be privatized too.
@n0rbert79 Жыл бұрын
18:36 - I shared the video with Richard. His reply was "ha!". Love the guy 😁😁
@ferreroman2913 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been binge watching all your channel
@Innocuils Жыл бұрын
Very interesting!! Keep up the good work sir!
@Colt45hatchback Жыл бұрын
Junkie virus was the pain of my childhood, wasnt till windows xp came out that i could "fix" all my floppy disks, took most of a school holiday break once to insert, scan, clean and repeat all the hundreds of 3.5" disks i had. Then i backed up all the things i wanted to keep on fdds, cleaned them too, then wiped and re installed 3.11, 95 and 98 on the computers i had at home. Was an absolute pain in the ass, and it all started by my naivety of computers in 98 im pretty sure, thinking i could copy fury3 from a school computer to a floppy so i could play it at home.. No ofc not, wont fit and my commodore 128D wouldnt have understood the file anyway nor had the power to play it. But the disk got infected from school, then come 1999 i got 486dx2... And in 2000 a pentium 166.... I used that disk in those.. Then later when i got a p2 233, a free cyrix 586 with 95 on it, and so on, they all got infected. Fdd whirring at random was the only symptom i noticed till things started to not work anymore.. But luckily in 05 my mums partner had an xp machine of some sort with a decent antivirus, so i could clean it all up and fix it... Though might and magic darkside of xeen and clouds of xeen still wont install correctly anymore. Corrupted files.
@artdehls9100 Жыл бұрын
I used to buy all the copies of "The Sheep Look Up" that I saw in used bookstores and leave them in all sorts of places. Seeds. John Bruner was one of the best. and Shockwave Rider might have been fiction when it was written, but it describes our current reality in many ways, to a T. Happy to find out that he originated the term 'worm' in that context, good show! ...and of course von Neumann thought of it, he thought of Everything. ;)
@paulphilpy Жыл бұрын
Excellent work
@dakotarice1849 Жыл бұрын
Sweet a new video to watch on a rainy day
@FewVidsJustComments Жыл бұрын
Noone: 2010's people when they get this: "Creeper? Aww man!"
@Bergi2000 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! It has to be a ton of research 4 that many details!
@AndrewPonti Жыл бұрын
Loved this!
@dylan.t180 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating story thanks for the video
@sing748 Жыл бұрын
A story old as the world. Good job.
@Palooka37 Жыл бұрын
This was super interesting. Thank you for the content.
@richbuilds_com Жыл бұрын
I wrote a QL virus back in the day that encrypted any Microdrive that was inserted and survived a reset. It fell out of some encryption code I wrote for Psion about 1000 years ago :)
@bertieblob3387 Жыл бұрын
Jolly good. Well done.
@richbuilds_com Жыл бұрын
I think the first "virus" I wrote was on a training course back in the early 80's. It was a shared network of dumb terminals for a Xenix mainframe. I wrote an executable in basic that I named after the person I wanted to infect. Made it executable only and put it in the public share. Nosy folks would spot the file and run it. It looked like it logged them out and presented them with a my pretend login screen that just emailed their details to me and changed their password so they couldn't log back in. I caught most of the class, including the lecturer before the jig was up :) You could also send terminal control characters to other folks terminals via the network chat function. So I wrote code that was an animated "message" that looked like their computer was crashing.
@jcxtra Жыл бұрын
I have a friend who develops stuff that ends up in the Linux kernel. She's had a pet project for years, basically a method to allow any process on Linux to move across the network and run on another system, something called process migration, so that something can run locally, be moved elsewhere, then moved back. To make something be able to scale up or down based on resource use and be a system that has fewer single points of failure. It's very interesting to see that even right back at the beginning people were thinking of creative uses of computers, and now that we have virtual machine technology and high availability systems. I really enjoyed this video, thanks Nostalgia Nerd. For some reason I hadn't been subscribed on this account for some reason. :>
@kanrup5199 Жыл бұрын
For all the time I have used computers, I never got a virus that wrecked the machine. This just makes me very uneasy, because it must mean they either weren't much at all, or they were all skulking unseen in my machines.
@DFX2KX Жыл бұрын
If it helps any, unless you're into at least slightly-dodgy stuff (cracks, warez, ROMs, ripped DVDs, ect) you'll not likely find one of the overtly malicious ones. Most of them are adware, by in large, injecting extra ads into websites and the like. Though spyware (the silent watch-everything variety) becomes a risk if you're management at a corporation of some kind.
@AndyMitchellUK26 Жыл бұрын
A few years ago I went through all of my old hard drives from the early 2000s. I was absolutely gobsmacked by the sheer amount of infected files on them that were picked up by Microsoft Defender. Thankfully the majority were false positives or extremely weak compared to what's in the wild nowadays but it was just so crazy seeing hundreds of files infected across all of my drives (and even some burned CDs/DVDs).
@gonzaloNMF Жыл бұрын
This channel is my reason to check youtube for content.
@JonMichaelDeShazer Жыл бұрын
4:30 4 weeks ago I was exactly where you're standing at the Science Museum in London. I'm from the US (Denver) and it was my first ever trip out there. If you are into retro computing, this is a must see exhibit!
@NoisyBones Жыл бұрын
I love the idea postulated in ‘Self Replicating Automata’ since I read it in 12th grade. I find the method very interesting and am even using it as the basis for how AI reproduce in a story that focuses almost exclusively on sapient AI
@AmeyahOfficialTV Жыл бұрын
very cool video, i will read the book by JVN you mentioned. The sponsored segment was very subtle. Thanks for these very video. Toodeloo.
@LordmonkeyTRM Жыл бұрын
Stunning. Bravo Sir
@VladoT Жыл бұрын
Back in the 90's the virus craze was so high that there was a software package created for generating/creating viruses called Virus Creation Laboratory (VCL).
@drewkinnear1895 Жыл бұрын
I never released a virus but I sure did have fun playing with the VCL. I still have a working 106MB Maxtor full height drive with some goodies on it from back in the day. It's an MFM drive and I even have a working pci controller from Sparrow in the same box... you just never know...
@jedstanaland2897 Жыл бұрын
This is a very cool bit of information and it is covered in the hyperion series and in that series it along with lots of other AI programs have been fighting both each other and humans. It is a very interesting story.
@sjdpfisvrj Жыл бұрын
I worked at BBN when Ray was still working there. Very quiet and unassuming guy, and was still interested in technology to the day he passed away.
@chris_is_here_oh_no Жыл бұрын
Amazing video, excellent work!
@gaeshows1938 Жыл бұрын
that smooth transition to sponsor
@simaesthesia Жыл бұрын
Loved this video. Reminded me of the days of my 2400 baud "Supramodem" and dialling in to the local university so that I could then "explore" the network and connect to JANET and ARPANET. Everything seemed so innocent back then. My Dad was amazed when I was able to list the contents of the University Library and find his thesis in the catalogue without him actually having to be at a terminal in the library. I remember having to list which other servers were visible then connect to one of those to see what it was connected to. Now you just bash in a URL and expect it will all just work.
@davidt-rex2062 Жыл бұрын
Phone rotation broken or something in the science museum? /s Fantastic video. Love stuff with histrionic stuff like this.
@Nostalgianerd Жыл бұрын
I was trying to film for a "reel"... Whatever the heck that is.
@sledsofnorway8700 Жыл бұрын
Awesome, great video!
@computer_toucher Жыл бұрын
Sorry mate, but I seemed to remember that us mountain apes had the first trans-atlantic ARPA connection and Wiki seems to agree with me: "NORSAR was the first non-US site included in ARPANET in June 1973 with a connection via the Tanum Earth Station in Sweden to the Seismic Data Analysis Center (SDAC) in Virginia, United States.[6][7] It was the connection point for ARPANET to spread to Peter Kirstein's research group at University College London (UCL) the following month in July 1973." E: The layout image of the ARPANET connections clearly shows how London was connected via NORSAR too.
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