Thank you

What is the õ doing in Mörk Borg?

excellent list 💯

@@SteveDahlskog I have heard it pronounced as MURK BURG and MORK BORG, but I don’t know for sure that I am even capable of saying it properly.😀. I just know the Swedes put out some great games and Dark Fort (Mork Borg) is one!

@@alvarogarcia5514 thanks Alvaro!

Fred! Love seeing you in the comments again sir. We are really in a golden age, and as you said, our games don’t exactly carry a “best used by” date! I’m running Savage Pathfinder, sure, but I’m running it in the 2nd edition Toril world. All my maps, history and magic items are from 2e Forgotten Realms boxes. My two boys and I have a separate game that they are playing in Krynn with AD&D 2e rules. Even with the inflated “collector” prices, I think the 2e boxed sets are an EXCELLENT value for your gaming bucks, if you plan to play long term.

I’ve actually had C&C since 2008, I do like it (did a video on it a few months ago actually), just doesn’t make this list for me. Still a very good game.

​@@booksbricksandboards783better than half of this list for me but everyone has their favorites. As long as we keep the games going and having fun playing in them it's all good 👍

Absolutely, I had some pretty positive words for C&C in my video, just not as high for me as these. Nothing wrong with C&C. If it makes up for it at all, Talanian that made Hyperborea got his start on C&C products.

OSE is great. Love that entire line.

Heck yeah! Though I recommend checking out Dolmenwood as soon as it becomes available! To me it takes the whole thing to the next plane of existence. My only gripe is that now I have to do some adjusting to fit in the advanced OSE races and classes. Not that I need to, but I want to 😁

Killing the Basic D&D line was a mistake in my opinion. There is a very solid system there.

Basic as an intro system for the youngest entry level players also acts perfectly as a starter set for curious older teens and a quick play game for adults. Its so versitile for so many reasons. Thats why the osr genre is so strong. In a modern light they could also use basic as a testing ground for new mechanics and ideas.

@@rkcpek thanks for sharing, well said.

I believe a "Basic" starter for D&D should be a single hardback book and take production cues from OSE. To cut cost it would only handle up to level 5 and a second book covering up to level 10. Unlike OSE it includes a campaign setting and several adventures. Instead of abandoning it at print an additional 10 modules would be produced and to keep it distinct from the full "Advanced" game it would be set in Mystara instead of the Forgotten Realms. It's just an idea.

All good additions to the conversation!

Dragonbane was my biggest surprise of the bunch… I figured I’d like it, because Free League, but when I dug in and played it, I sold my Forbidden Lands books.. and I really enjoyed Forbidden Lands… DB is just so clean and smooth. Also, Knave and Shadowdark, both incredible!

Also available in an Old School Essentials variation. Since it is Sci Fantasy it didn’t really meet my list criteria, but it is a good game!

I actually would have done that before Dragonbane. For myself, Dragonbane scratched the same itch as Forbidden Lands, but with a little less overhead. FL is a great system though.

Sounds like you have some pretty great gaming groups to get that much table time! Good on you!

@@booksbricksandboards783 unfortunately I build it all out in Foundry.. I never get much face to face gaming

You will notice a lot of things from AD&D and Basic in there, as well as some custom changes.

Kevin is one of my favorite authors. Great rule set.

You won’t get any pushback against Ironsworn or Starforged. Love both, and Shawn actually allowed me to upload my custom Ironsworn narrative journal sheet on RPGGeek. This list was meant to be a little more mainstream, but if you are wanting solo and co op, great choice!

Yups same for me, The ironsworn stuff is by far what I enjoy the most in any RPG. Absolutely TOP NOTCH. But they are mostly solo games so I wouldn''t have put them here either.

For sure. Kevin basically kept all of the bits that he liked of BX, took lessons of 50 years of game design innovation lessons and then added them to the mix to create something new, but familiar. He really has a nice playground for us.

You sir seem to have a very discerning taste. Thanks for watching!

Forbidden Lands as well is in the same vein of Dragonbane

@@TweaksDIRT it is, I have a Forbidden Lands video from last year that goes over solo play. Good game. For me, Dragonbane replace it.

Theres these spiters on YT that mock Dragonbanes magic system, when they havent played ANY other ttrpg besides their pompous Pathfinder and D&D. They truly dont " get " such a nice take on magic system Imo. Forbidden Lands is great aswell. Also Symboraum and Væsen. You can solo/ co-op all. Get the solo rules for Væsen on drivethrough RPG

@@odinulveson9101 preaching to the choir. you don’t need to tell me I hate D&D modern and pathefinder so boring. Role playing good. Roll playing bad. At least for me

Nothing wrong with that take… I lime C&C quite a bit. I’d person take AD&D 2e over several on the list, but I wanted to keep options more modern and accessible. Thanks for watching

Jay, I have been eyeing it from a distance but not dove in just yet… if I pick it up, you can bet I will share my thoughts.

Absolutely.

Thanks! I have a buddy that has offered to create and moderate a Discord channel for me, so that will be coming soon.

Subscribed aswell. Good work!

@@odinulveson9101 appreciate it Odin, thank you!

Fair list. Thanks for watching.

Paul definitely good additions, and I never heard of when the wolf comes, but sounds pretty sweet from the description! Golden Age for sure!

lol, and that is the conundrum! God bless you!

@@sturat5166 or if you rolled behind a screen and a different result better moves the party where you need them to go… it is what it is 😉

@@sturat5166 Brilliant!

Hyperborea is a personal favorite. Jeff is an excellent human being and also Gygax’s last collaborator. The game feels like what 3rd edition D&D could have been.

Haven’t tried it. Thanks for the suggestion.

@@booksbricksandboards783 Please do a review of it ❤️ They just finished their successful kickstarter of the Second Edition ❤️

@@SpectreWulf if I had a copy I would consider it, unfortunately, I don’t get comp copies of books that I do reviews on. Gets pretty expensive to buy books just to do a review. So, while not out of the question in the future, not in the budget at the moment. Thanks for watching, and appreciate the suggestion.

@@booksbricksandboards783 Great to know that! And thanks for the consideration! I think if you still back the kickstarter by a late pledge of $2, you will get the Gamma rules for the 2nd edition for free via the updates! (#15)

Not familiar with that.

That sounds fair… as much as I give the game a hard time, there is a lot I like about the original 3 5e books… everything after got further from my preferences. Olde Swords Reign might be something your group would dig, and it is SUPER affordable too.

@@booksbricksandboards783 I'll have to check that out. Thanks!

@@artistpoet5253 very welcome. I think I picked it up on Amazon for like $7?

Yes, all true statements in the “new” D&D .

lol, I guess I should be watching your channel then… deal, subbed!

Just pulled up you channel to go sub, and it seems like we are on the same gaming page, as you released a very similar video just 5 days ago! Thanks for commenting!

I couldn't find a place to comment on your post (My age is showing) but just wanted to say thanks for sharing that post. Appreciate the highlight!

@@ElderGoblinGames no problem.

Fair. Rules Cyclopedia is good enough I have a real copy, a POD copy, a pdf, and the full set of BECMI boxed sets.

DCC can be played quite gritty, but you are right, the default style is gonzo. OSE doesn’t use special dice, that is DCC, OSE is just D&D bx. Dragonbane is excellent. Shadowdark is also very good. To hear my full thoughts on Runequest, check out my January 14th, 2023 video, I go into a good bit of detail on the entire line up to that point. Thanks for watching!

I had the Basic Fantasy core book and some expansions… it made a couple of small changes but largely pretty accurate to the original. If I remember they gave clerics spells at first level, which for some reason was the change I remember after a few years 😀. That said, still a very good option, but hard to compete in the BX sphere when OSE is around… just so good.

@@booksbricksandboards783 true datt OSE is by far the most comprehensive version ive read i have the two advanced phb and dmg very cool

@@swordsnstones pretty much everything you would need… before OSE, I was a BIG proponent that the Rules Cyclopedia was the definitive Basic resource. OSE changed that. Allston did something very special for the time with the RC, but OSE just perfected it.

​@@booksbricksandboards783I do thing RC has the best take on the reaction table though.

Very common. I did a video on introducing a group to new games a while back.

Wait till you wrap up your campaign and then tell them it’s just a fun 1 shot to try something new. That’ll get them! If not do what I did and wait for your birthday 🥳 when they ask what you want to do tell them you want to play a one shot of DB. Works every time!

Thank you Dom!

Violet, much appreciated and glad you are enjoying Knave. Sounds like we have similar tastes.

@@booksbricksandboards783 Don't know yet as far as Knave, I haven't looked at the pdf yet! :D

Between the Magic and the funky dice it had me from the jump! 😉. You are welcome!

Sounds like we have similar tastes and thoughts on WOTC!

I need to check out Savage Worlds. I’ve managed somehow to miss it.

@@steelmongoose4956 I like it a lot. It is mechanically very slick, and deceptively powerful. Little things like the way Trappings effect spells to the way that Setting Rules can wildly change the feel of a world, add together to make a SWEET toolkit for a GM.

@@booksbricksandboards783 The reason I call it "Hasblow" is because *SOMEBODY* in the Executive Suite is obviously snorting a lot of coke. There is no other rational excuse for some of the idiot stunts they've pulled since January '23.

I do like Castles & Crusades. I picked it up in 2008 originally, on a whim at Gen Con. Is Mini Six related to the old West End Games D6 systems or something different?

Indeed it is, actually based on WEGs Open D6 books as a light version with static defenses. Very quick and easy to learn and the whole rulebook is less than 30 pages.

That sounds cool. I have heard a lot about Mini Six, but never the mechanics. I played a lot of WEG Star Wars as a kid, so pretty familiar with the system. Is it all POD or are there regular retail copies in the wild as well?

lol, no career highs as good as a #1 hit song for me, but that is a pretty awesome tidbit. If you need help writing lyrics about a cleric in Golarion getting eaten by a tentacle beast, I’m your guy!

@@booksbricksandboards783 It sounds a lot cooler than it is, believe me. On the lyrics offer, I would but the demand for songs about clerics in Golarion getting eaten by tentacled beasts has really ebbed over the last couple of years.

You are really hitting some spots I didn’t know about… other than OSE and Fighting Fantasy, the rest was Greek to me! Lol

You have a good breadth of gaming experience, would you say that from what you see of my list, this would be a good list for gamers looking to find a change of pace from Dungeons & Dragons?

@@booksbricksandboards783 Yes, excellent list for a change of pace from 5e - of course Crown & Skull and Savage Worlds would be the biggest leap rules wise from 5e. I own all of the books you mentioned (except the Pathfinder SW - I have the Fantasy Companion) and cannabalize from all of them . One that I would add is Tales of Argosa (new version of Low Fantasy Gaming), it has tightened up LFG and the layout and rules are concise. I backed the Kickstarter and hope to get the print copy soon, but I printed out the 95% finished PDF and will play it soon. I think you would dig it - ithas a simple skills and Background system , and this combined with Unique Features that can be anything you want as long as the GM agrees to it allows you to make up unique characters without getting too complicated. Also has "Exploits", that are simpler version of Mighty Deeds from DCC and basically the possibility of Wild Magic and Corruption every time magic is used.

@@Finniganmydog Finn, I had never heard of Tales of Argosa, but definitely have eyed Low Fantasy Gaming several times. That sounds like my kind of game for sure! You named several different beats that I like in my games! Thanks for the suggestion, it is on my list (list is long and money short, but it is on there!).

I have not, do you have a quick pitch for the game?

If those, not familiar with Seven Seas. Heard of it but not read or played. How would you describe it? Not many great pirate games out there, so might be one I’d look at. Pirate Borg was one I really enjoyed.

I had a long reply and lost it to an editing error. Maybe a second try will be better organized. 7th Sea is based on the world of the 7th Sea CCG from AEG. It's generally Hollywood swashbuckling (Three Musketeers, Captain Blood, Ivanhoe) plus cultural magic. Each culture is obviously based on a specific European nation from an important time in that nation's history. So "Germany" is set during or immediately after the 30-Years War, France, Spain, and Russia are in the middle of the Napoleonic Wars, England is in the reign of Elizabeth I, and so on. This sort of works if you don't look too hard. Each culture has its own style of magic that doesn't really match that of any other culture, so France has weird teleportation, Italy has soothsaying, Russia has shapeshifting, England has mythology, and so on. The combat rules are designed to facilitate cinematic play by PCs, so PCs can often tear through huge numbers of what are essentially extras until they reach the villain, when the combat becomes much slower and more detailed. There are solid social rules, including rules for reputation. It's an interesting system with the right group, and worth taking a look at.

@@dougsundseth6904 that sounds VERY cool. Thank you for the long response (twice 😉). The game sounds like exactly the type of pirate game I’d want to play in as a player.

No argument here, but a large portion of potential players won’t consider playing the older systems. I have a number of videos specifically about how to start playing older games today, focusing on AD&D 2e and BX D&D primarily, but there is a much larger group interested in modern alternatives. There are a lot of great older games, as I mentioned in this video, I’m playing 2e with my boys now, but there are also a number of fantastic modern alternatives as well. If you look at my shelf at the end of this video you will notice I’m not a stranger to the older stuff 😉. Thanks for watching!

@@booksbricksandboards783 Oh yeah, completely agree with you on that, also, two of my favorites lately when it comes to fantasy have been Cairn and Dungeon World, me and a friend of mine always DMed together since the days of DnD3.5, mostly we worked together in world building and dungeons while he did the DM portion. Also, Liminal is a very interesting modern fantasy RPG that not many talk about.

@@TheRatedOniChannel I have enjoyed DW quite a bit. I have Cairn but not read it yet. Liminal is one I will have to research. Thanks for watching and sharing!

@@booksbricksandboards783 Cairn is the perfect 'oh, you've never played rpgs but are curious about DnD? Say no more fam' and Liminal is a bit like the BBC series of Neverwhere... which also has its own RPG, I swear, this hobby is just a giant rabbit hole.

Very good time to be a gamer.

I know that when I was playing BX we played large parties, with each of us running 2-3 characters, 12-15 total. We had deaths pretty regularly, but not like a funnel. You actually don’t have to play a funnel to play DCC, it has the option to create first level characters (and great modules for them as well). Like I said, hard to understand until you try it… it’s frantic, it’s hilarious and because characters keep dying, players get clever about creative play, and they occasionally try some WILD things because they aren’t too attached to that zero level… YET. After one survives, that IS there backstory. They have an immediate attachment to the Baker that killed the demon with his rolling pin, even though he has a 4 wisdom score!

I actually own it. I like the setting more than the rules set. I got it wanting it to be more like what Dragonbane ended up being, to be fair. Love Free League, that one just wasn’t my bag.

Yes. From the art to the “innovation”, WOTC feels to me like they are heating up the same TV dinner with each new release. The more hungry small pubs are giving us 7 course masterpieces.

@@booksbricksandboards783 The biggest innovations to the modern D20 style seem to be coming from DC20 (which I backed). Or I should say, at least, that Dungeon Coach’s innovations are confined to gameplay and mechanics, rather than social theory and historical revision.

@@steelmongoose4956 very well put! It seems like the effort applied to mechanical improvements is very much secondary to the effort WOTC spends on sanitizing and “modernizing” the works that came before. They stand on the shoulders of giants (literally as Gygax means giant) and call themselves tall, while scolding those of us that appreciate the older products that gave them their platform.

lol. It’s a sweet game!

Not Tim, my RPG spirit animal! Absolutely my brother! Thanks!

@@booksbricksandboards783 Justin: I recently picked up Free League's Forbidden Lands box set thanks to some store credit at my FLGS. Reading it, it looks really fun -- traveling is it's own mini-game!

I saw that at a FLGS a year ago on their shelf. I took a quick Look, but can’t remember why I wasn’t interested at the time. Possibly good, just out of my wheelhouse.

@@booksbricksandboards783 understandable. I can say atm I'm playing it and Blades in the dark, possibly becoming my new favorite systems, taking the place of Dungeon World. But I'm also drawn to Mausritter... too many interesting things and never enough time!

100%. These things are always subjective. Best games list for me will almost never fully match any other gamer.

Picking the shirt for filming is the most crucial of decisions each week! 😉

I can understand. You have great taste!

Showing this comment to my wife, thanks!

thanks Eric!

Welcome back! You’re going to have a good birthday!

Thanks Pral! For sure I appreciate your additions to the cause my good man.

Yeah, I actually mention that in the video, when I call out that it comes with a full set of the rules. Thanks for watching.

I haven’t got to check it out yet, but Gavin and crew are legends so sure it will be good.

@@booksbricksandboards783 It’s really great. It’s not only an amazing and phenomenally detailed setting, it practically functions as B/X 2.0. He has a lot of tweaks which polish and enhance B/X.

@@hillerm I had heard that they were thinking about jumping off of the OGL with the Dolmenwood release, but I forgot about it… so this is a complete new system it sounds like? Very interesting.

@@booksbricksandboards783 No it’s still B/X but has has a lot of the options from Carrion Crawler built into the core system. He also redesigned all the spells and most of the classes to be setting specific. The entire game is really tight and bursting with flavor.

@@hillerm well, guess that is another one on the list… lol. Glad this video is doing well, because I am going to need more cash for some of these games in the comments! 😉

Based upon Tolkien I presume?

Inspired by Tolkien and designed to tell similar stories in your own original world.

Nothing like the smell of descending AC in the morning!

www.hyperborea.tv for the hardcovers, which are BEAUTIFUL, or DriveThruRpg.com for the PDF’s. Great books! I have a couple of other Hyperborea videos on the channel as well.

@booksbricksandboards783 Thank you great video

@@salperez50 very welcome, thanks for the comment Sal!

Yeah, I actually did some videos on Palladium books last year… I had all of their games except the Vietnam Conflict game. If you enjoy Palladium, you may also enjoy the Survive This series. It draws a lot from BX and Palladium(mainly skill theory). I did decide to sell my Palladium collection recently, because while I love the creative stories and art, I don’t really enjoy the game system… there are several official rulings for some of the combat mechanics, and generally it is just a little too clunky to get anyone else to play it with me. That said, I have the entire Savage Rifts line because I love the idea of Rifts. Thanks for watching.

Palladium lured me away from AD&D back in the 84, and I never went back.

@@steelmongoose4956 I think Sembieda has a tremendous talent for painting a picture with his words that extends to his artists. It always feels like a world I want to play in.

I frequently use Palladium source material, the ideas and worlds created are really fun. But the system, oh the system.

@@benitopulatso6637 Can I ask you what about the system you honestly don't like? I mean combat is D20 and the skills are percentile based, these seem to be pretty popular systems over all. I would really like to know if you would be willing to elaborate.

Yeah, the problem wasn’t so much coming up with 10, but which 10 😉. Thanks for watching!

Paavo welcome back, I didn’t realize there was an Indie gaming month.

@@booksbricksandboards783thanks! It was debuted last year by Prof DM for July.

He’s a pretty good dude, like yourself.

@@booksbricksandboards783 Back at ya! 😀

Thanks for sharing.

lol you really enjoy Chaosium apparently, with Mythras being a take on Runequest, Dragonbane originating from Runequest/Basic, Pendragon being originally based on Basic, and then of course Runequest itself… lol. I don’t know anything about Against the Darkmaster but based upon the list I would think it might be related to the Chaosium system 😀😉. Nothing wrong with those games. C&C would be the closest to make my top 10. Thanks for sharing. (If I had a group that would get into the generational play aspect, Pendragon could make the list)

Yeah, I bought it for the rules set and was totally blown away by the setting.

I’ve read a little about Harnworld and Harnmaster, but largely I am in the dark on it. I like the cover art.

I think there is a moving definition of starter set in the RPG world. Starter sets, in my definition, have everything you need to play a game (other than a pencil)… dice, maps, rules, character sheets, tokens and a scenario. Some starter sets have even more, so that they truly have everything you need to start, but also have the full rules to continue. Mouse Guard, Forbidden Lands and Dragonbane fit into the second category for me. The core rules hardback has everything in the core rules softcover, but adds a new scenario, and an appendix that includes some of the information that was on the cards in the starter box.

Dragonbane is awesome! I’ve heard a lot about 5TD, but never did the dive. Thanks for watching.

Very welcome!

I have not checked it out, but if I recall, grittier take on d20 system?

@@booksbricksandboards783 I’m not so sure about grittier from a mechanical point of view. But definitely with their setting

@@Arnsteel634 I was thinking the information I saw said “deadlier”? I might just be attributing to the wrong system. Also, Candyland is somewhat deadlier than 5e.😉

I liked the 5e core three rulebooks… everything afterwards was a cumulative disappointment for me. The core three, at least I felt, paid some respect and thought to what came before and was largely pretty effective at what it was trying to do… future releases did not seemingly care nearly as much about fidelity to the source, or even try to create the same type of experience as the core 3. Several wrong turns at Albuquerque to quote a certain philosopher rabbit. 😉

Thanks! Appreciate the support.

Dan, that is EXACTLY what prompted my switch to Savage Pathfinder! Seem to be on the same page!

Midnight, herein lies the problem with having these awesome interactions with the viewers, now I read up on Neon Lords and I want to buy it too! Lol. Thanks for watching, and sharing… even if it might cost me $50 😉

@@booksbricksandboards783 Man it's an absolute blast!

Looks like it! Man, I dig everything 80’s/90’s, love BX and the whole style just seems very cool.

Played it since 2020, really feel like I got everything out of it that I can… it became more chore than I wanted to deal with.

@@booksbricksandboards783 That's pretty fair, personally I love the amount of choice you have when making a character, especially now that the 2nd book of the remaster has come out

@@anthonyhumpage7290 that is what attracted me to the game… unfortunately, I thought as you got to double digit levels, it became a lot to track and monitor as a GM. The combats were lasting much longer than my group or I wanted and the analysis paralysis that some had was crushing the game flow.

Sir Dean of the Acene, welcome back and thank you good man.

I did a video on WHFRP a couple months ago. Good game, just not my top 10.

Monk, thank you very much! I enjoy getting to talk games with people I otherwise would not meet, you are now in that group.

@@booksbricksandboards783 Thank you, good sir. It’s an honor to be part of this group. 😊

I really think that Ben did something incredibly special with Knave 2e. Gladly bought that book twice lol.

@@booksbricksandboards783 lol nice

I own it, just didn’t make my top list… I’d go Mouse Guard myself, but pretty close cousins they are. Thanks for watching!

Like the lack of Videos aside from Luke Crane is criminal or anyone saying anything about it.

Not anything about your output. I wouldn't know about ADND and Worlds Without Number. Just seems odd with the KZfaq sphere that Torchbearer Second Edition is kinda left aside.

@@TweaksDIRT I like Crane’s work quite a bit. I have Torchbearer on the shelf, and read it twice. I thought it and Mouse Guard were pretty similar and preferred the latter because I like the graphic novel. I agree, Crane has not gotten as much attention on the whole as deserved.

Yep, I actually said that it had the full rules in the video.

Fair! Don’t know 10, 5 and 4 on your list, but the rest I am familiar with. Thanks for watching!

I’m glad that you enjoy it. I’d guess you either haven’t played many systems, or you are being a bit hyperbolic, if you have “never encountered a system so easy to run or make content for.” Lots of options out there, and nearly everyone would place Pathfinder on the meatier side of the scale comparatively to the field. Again, glad you are enjoying it. I ran it since 2020, 2 full campaigns, so not based off of minimal experience.

The thanks for sharing Ed!

Thanks for the suggestion.

​@booksbricksandboards783 ty, lil bit of self promotion sorry just offerin a choice Keep em rollin

@@swordsnstones no worries, good luck with the channel Swords. I really think that our content works a little bit like car dealerships, the more of around each other, the more it generates traffic for everyone.

@@booksbricksandboards783 CHEERS SIR i appreciate it i am sending others to watch your vids all the time as i dont really do much for content, so hopefully you get some subscriptions from it.

Very much appreciated buddy! If you see me at a con be sure to say hi.

I don’t know a lot about Coleville’s project, other than if I recall, no to hit rolls?

I had everything up to the second monster book for it… too fiddly for this guy. But the books look great.

Happy to see your list, either here or better if you wanted to share a video of your own, would be great to see your perspective more completely… as to, too much “grim dark”, I would only call Mork Borg “grim dark” out of the list I shared, the others are either traditional fantasy or sword and sorcery, so I do believe that was a mischaracterization of the list that I shared. As I have mentioned to a few others, I do enjoy C&C, did a video on it earlier this year, and have owned it since 2008… it just didn’t make my list, didn’t miss it, it was not intended to be there. Seems like if you are looking for heroism and optimism, there were 9 out of 10 games I shared that offer that possibility, so not passé at all!

Good choices. I kept my options to readily available and in print.

I actually have ACKS. Good system.

Played two campaigns in PF2e. Just finished up 2.5 years in the Abomination Vaults. Definitely ready for something quicker for my group.

I've been running PF2 and it's a really well put together system, but I 100% get the exhaustion from making sure you're running it "correctly." It really shines as a tactical combat game though and my players mostly love the crunch.

@@SeanFranchise I don’t disagree at all, that is actually what attracted me to it… as players gain levels and monsters gain abilities to track, it becomes cumbersome. Throw in that a couple of my players, after two campaigns and more than 3 years mind you, are still needing to ask how action economy works, how spells work and generally where they can find numbers on their sheets… it’s the adults that are slower to pick up on it, not the kids, in my experience! 😉 that said, I’ve enjoyed the system, just feel like I have done everything I want to with it. Thanks for watching!

@@booksbricksandboards783 Haha yeah that all tracks and we're just at level 1! I love the action economy but as a GM that is more comfortable on the ICRPG/ShadowDark/Knave end of the spectrum I end up wishing I didn't have to reference rules every couple of minutes. Savage PF sounds like a great alternative though since Golarion is such a dope setting.

@@SeanFranchise the Abomination Vaults AP is great too. Just ends up taking way too long for a single combat… also, player died in the campaign and then spent half of a 5 hour session to build a new character. Just a very decision heavy system across the board after about level 5.

I thought that was the case myself until I read it. The way she handled classes and races was very unique, offering versatility but simplicity. The torch system is also pretty unique and changes the way that dungeon crawls play. Also, content generation tools are second only to Knave for newer dungeon crawlers. Throw in the Zines she released with the Hexcrawls and additional classes and there is a lot of great gameplay in Shadowdark. None of that has to do with the author. Though having accidentally blocked her way for a few minutes while discussing the game she wrote, while she waited patiently for me to finish standing behind me, I can say she is a pretty kind and patient person as well.

Thing about a top ten list is there are only 10 places😉. Nothing wrong with RQ. I did some videos on the subject last year. Fine game.