Notable names ditch ANC for MK

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The debate on the impact that uMkhonto weSizwe party could have on the ANC rages on.
Political analyst Sysman Motloung tells Nhlanhla sehume that current developments could harm the ruling party.
Tune into Newzroom Afrika DStv channel 405 for more.

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@gcumisa66 5 ай бұрын

Not only ANC will lose voters even EFF in KZN, they only joined EFF because they didn’t have other option but they love Zuma. I won’t be surprised if the MK won at least 3 provinces in the SA.

@penekedirero4636 5 ай бұрын

Dream on, people are not stupid like you.

@gcumisa66 5 ай бұрын

Do you mean all these people who are gathering in this campaign are stupid

@wondermqedlana5615 5 ай бұрын

That is what You would love to believe , but the truth is that this has been the plan all along to dethrone the ANC from power and in an instance where there is no outright winner in the 2024 election, then the MK party , the EFF and other parties who share the same Ideology as the two parties I've mentioned will come together to form a government of the people

@sizwemeyer6076 5 ай бұрын

MK will never win any province but definately they will be King Makers in some provinces, and they will get seats at least in 8 provinces

@gcumisa66 5 ай бұрын

That’s your own hypothesis,no one knows what’s gonna happen so carry on dreaming

@kerwinmatthews9768 5 ай бұрын

Here is finally someone who understands what is happening!!!

@NtobekoZungu 5 ай бұрын

Absolutely! He provided a very sober analysis

@user-tu9vl7gs4m 5 ай бұрын

Bazincedile, the gravy boat has sunk. Disaster. They must all move out we do not need this drama of local criminals.

@zulu9357 5 ай бұрын

Why is Ramaphosa cutting NSFAS budget by R5.5 billion when our sisters and brothers have no financial support anywhere to study?

@NthatiMotsabi 5 ай бұрын

They are blindly pushing students to vote for MK or EFF

@Coco-kw3iv 5 ай бұрын

So that you wouldn't go to school

@jabulanimathuthu2610 5 ай бұрын

Ankole is working for Whites not blacks

@mohalesydneylebea9388 5 ай бұрын

They don't take education seriously

@firstcomment749 5 ай бұрын

A considerable amount of the money was apparently spent on the SACP + not on students. It's seems to be illegal spending + grossly unfair to students!

@enerstmichael 5 ай бұрын

The best political party to vote for now is MK..becoz it will bring a very balanced coalition government of at least 3 parties which is what's needed now in SA ..No political party should get at least 33% in the 2024 presidential election..Amandla!🇿🇦

@johanbritz976 5 ай бұрын

And can you show the Campaigning Funds will be coming from. Since the last time Zuma was in power, he sold the country out to the Gupta Family..

@siyabongadlamini7852 5 ай бұрын

Mandela sold the country to Oppenheimer family, Mbeki also and your current president sold the country to Ruppert family and off course Zuma to Guptas ,so what is your point?

@mcslifestyletv5415 5 ай бұрын

The same people that controlled the National Party government are the same people that own the ANC. Wake up!! Don't tell us about the Guptas. Those maffias from Stellies captured this country decades ago. Don't tell us about the Guptas, you are insulting our intelligence

@user-cs3uc8xu1t 5 ай бұрын

Umkhonto is a faction of the anc…

@user-cs3uc8xu1t 5 ай бұрын

It’s clear Zuma is fighting for power in the anc using people who are also disgruntled…the party does not have its own policies but it is there to’solve anc problems’ as Zuma calls it. We are not going anywhere in this country if we continue playing anc and its leaders and faction games!

@tatane3243 5 ай бұрын

Should have let Mavuso leave and persuaded Zuma to stay. Mavuso is a nobody with no support on the ground.

@ndagebs6092 5 ай бұрын

@tatane3243 Is he not a Dr Mavuso?

@shanaazcloete8531 5 ай бұрын

Zuma is doing this for self interest. He wants his court case dropped. This will fail like all his stupid private prosecutions.

@Mketsi2708 5 ай бұрын

@@ndagebs6092His surname is Mavuso. Dr is an academic title, we are outside the university walls.

@zamomaluka6722 5 ай бұрын

Weĺeĺĺe no vote for fòŕillwrate zuma

@dlaminisabelo2482 5 ай бұрын

All parties are vulnerable. This MKP is a thorn in everybody's neck. Mayibuye iAfrica

@nhlanhlazondi5853 5 ай бұрын

How I miss Xolani Dube's analysis, very sober-minded and holistic in his approach 😢

@stolenlegacy2617 5 ай бұрын

An outstanding analyst

@Nomngcefe 5 ай бұрын

That one doesn't analyze, but criticizes everything. He does not bother answering any specific questions, he just rant on 🤣🤣🤣

@nhlanhlazondi5853 5 ай бұрын

@Nomngcefe Xolani is very clear. He doesn't conform to the status quo type of analysis. He goes right into the root of what is wrong with our political system and why we find ourselves where we are right now! I find his views very informative and refreshing!

@EinadManhoff 5 ай бұрын

As long they are standing up against the WEF and put SA citizens first

@peterpooe3145 5 ай бұрын

Exactly, the biggest danger is WEF and they voted themselves into power.

@not.likely 5 ай бұрын

Put South Africans first 😂😂😂😂

@Coco-kw3iv 5 ай бұрын

Oh my God this one is the worst...and our current president is a member 😔. Imagine 🥺

@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 5 ай бұрын

@@not.likelylaugh all you want, scum, we toil on.

@user-ww5qw8jd3b 5 ай бұрын

No, they don't stand up against WEF. They want prosecution amnesty

@zulu9357 5 ай бұрын

Ramaphosa is the weakest president of the ANC

@penekedirero4636 5 ай бұрын

He might be weak but not as corrupt and senseless as this rapist of an old man.

@stanleynkosikamthembu168 5 ай бұрын

However, it is much more nuanced than that. Multiple factors comes to bear on all issues surrounding the ANC along with our country. The ANC's major weakness has been to complexify the South African political space as well the macro socio-political-economic landscape unnecessarily thereby making it difficult for itself to resolve 342 years of de-resourcing of our people across all developmental metrics through Colonialism as well as Apartheid. . When it is always best to work at keeping things as basic as possible in order to effectively manage same.

@not.likely 5 ай бұрын

Blah blah blah, they had no problem stealing and squandering the monies earmarked for the RDP. Stop blaming whites for the blacks inability to run a successful economy. Black management sucks, the entire continent is testimony to the disaster of black management y@@stanleynkosikamthembu168

@Bantu-860 5 ай бұрын

@@stanleynkosikamthembu168 Well explained! I No explanation exceed this.

@not.likely 5 ай бұрын

@@Bantu-860that's your opinion

@ThembaNyikanyika 5 ай бұрын

Yooh this Ramaphosa is a curse, he killed anc.

@bella357 5 ай бұрын

Truly.

@luyandajayjonsile2545 5 ай бұрын

Please Msholozi come over Eastern Cape......these cameras will view our bad streets, towns etc....they forgotten about abo Mbalula nabo Mantashe( drunken pitbul)

@sifundojili6123 5 ай бұрын

Viva MK vivaaaaa!!!!!!

@noxolompepeto2476 3 ай бұрын

He is coming soon

@musamagagula9010 5 ай бұрын

SABC senior political analysis once said after the laughing of MK he said " He see a man seeking attention and crying out for help" the question is does he still hold that sentiment

@njabulozikhali4966 5 ай бұрын

and my coment that day was: he looks like his brother Ramaposa, the both ugly and they have equal noses. I remember Mzwale Mbeje and he lost me as an admire. If he could be that bias....

@dnb_brett_breezy 5 ай бұрын

I remember that old ANC political analyst saying Zuma is crying for help, the guy was trying by all means to undermine Zuma n Mkhonto weSizwe😂

@bhekithembazungu2129 5 ай бұрын

He was trying to save his career. Please forgive him, it’s hard out there.

@dnb_brett_breezy 5 ай бұрын

@@bhekithembazungu2129 ya ne umamdala had to do what he did ngoba uyazi where his bread comes from 💯

@bhekisisankosi6189 5 ай бұрын

I remember Mzwandile Mbeje saying those remarks, shame on him

@Honeybee897 5 ай бұрын

Let Ace Magashule swallow his pride and join hands with Zuma. We want a credible opposition.

@fin2643 5 ай бұрын

You want a credible ANC....number 2....When these guys were in power , did they return the land?? why is the economy still whyte owned???

@sifundojili6123 5 ай бұрын

True, because he opened his organization before MK. Better gather together with Zuma. That can work.

@Itssophie277 5 ай бұрын

Look at the masses behind mk

@kamohelolehlohonolozondo4338 5 ай бұрын

🤣😂🤣😂🤣! After all the mess, no direcion! No plans for developing the country! A vulcano waiting to erupt! Rampant crime! No schools! 🤣😂🤣😂! South Africa is a special kind of crazy😮......

@libadviser8793 5 ай бұрын

This new development is a masterstroke by Gedleyihlekisa Zuma. He is showing the anc careerists, counter revolutionaries, tender seekers, criminals and bigots how the game of politics is played. Ramaphosa is weak and fake( I'm not saying Zuma is the best), but Zuma is a man with a constituency, something ramaflopa doesn't have(except white sponsors on his side, who will ditch him once he's out of the limelight)

@user-ww5qw8jd3b 5 ай бұрын

Zuma's constituency are people who cannot think

@philanidladla3406 5 ай бұрын

@@user-ww5qw8jd3b 4 fingers point back at you when pointing at another person.

@peterapril2147 5 ай бұрын

But Zuma is the biggest of everything you have said here

@jameskillu9171 5 ай бұрын

MK was started for liberation, Zuma continues with the agenda.

@shanaazcloete8531 5 ай бұрын

The only liberation you should worry about is liberating your country from Zanu-PF, so we can liberate ourselves from Zimbos. If Zuma kicked you Zimbos out, I would vote for him just for that noble act.

@unathimichaelmxaku8105 5 ай бұрын

Are you a Zimbo?

@johanbritz976 5 ай бұрын

But we will want to make sure, that this MK party is not receiving any of that Gupta family money.. For their Campaigning..? Since we do not need the MK to sell out South Africa to the Gupta family again..

@unathimichaelmxaku8105 5 ай бұрын

Liberating Indians?It was Shaik brothers then Gupta brothers who is really a sellout here?

@unathimichaelmxaku8105 5 ай бұрын

@@johanbritz976He likes Indians it was Shaik brothers then Gupta brothers,but still he call people sellouts Indians were privileged during apartheid.

@MlungisiCliff 5 ай бұрын

Viva ✊MK✊

@louismzobe3073 5 ай бұрын

Yes we need Tony Yengeni to come home

@maliwanhlanhla9329 5 ай бұрын

Anc in Mpumalanga is weak in general this coming elections will demonstrate that we know our province we are going to put mk in government

@NtobekoZungu 5 ай бұрын

Good analysis!

@goodenoughmahlangu1182 5 ай бұрын

I remember EFF was accused of stealing SACP brand.😅

@MusaAbednegoMfeka-xg5rn 5 ай бұрын

MK must take over❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

@stanleytshwale1263 5 ай бұрын

Mmmm, we will see about that. I like the mood and fresh air.

@sbonelolukhozi1458 5 ай бұрын

Very sound analysis 👌

@zulu9357 5 ай бұрын

What has Ramaphosa done for the oppressed masses of our people?

@jameskillu9171 5 ай бұрын

He has given poor people high crime and loadshedding,

@zulu9357 5 ай бұрын

@@jameskillu9171 The man is useless

@edmundwessels2072 5 ай бұрын

He did the same as Zuma nothing. Both of them said the ANC comes first and South Africa second. Ramaphosa said he will rather be seen as a weak president then to divide the ANC. That is why nothing gets done to stop corruption and South Africans suffer. No one ANC leader deny the fact that the ANC is corrupt to the core. They all know the ANC is dead and you don't ride a dead horse. Now they all jump on a fresh horse to continue their journey of corruption and no fear of going to jail. The MK party is an attempt to keep the lid on the tin of worms.

@guillaumecabano33 5 ай бұрын

Ramaphosa helped negotiate the abolishment of de jure apartheid, but in it's place we still have de facto apartheid under a neo-liberal capitalist oligarchy where political parties and their donors (i.e. those who bribe them) possess political power, but not the people - as such, we live in an aborted democracy.

@jabulanimathuthu2610 5 ай бұрын

Ankole is useless. He's a sellout.

@truthspeaks651 5 ай бұрын

I wish all political analysts could be as balanced and as non-aligned as your guest. Thank you for siding with the truth.

@man.g2475 5 ай бұрын

Sans political analysts have a tendency of being off the mark most often. Firstly, this analyst fail to mention facts that it was under Zuma that most votes for the ANC were lost in places like Gauteng. To therefore opine that Zuma will make an impact on ANC is questionable. There seem to be more to this Zuma antics than most analysts say. The main question that begs the answer is where from is this party funding come???

@Coco-kw3iv 5 ай бұрын

Have you seen the CR17 bank statements as well???

@Expose_bankers_and_auctioneers 5 ай бұрын

its like rats leaving a bankrupt ship

@man.g2475 5 ай бұрын

@@Coco-kw3iv it’s precisely the reason I bring forth the question of funding. The current mZansi president has been failing to deliver on all his election promises due to being suspected to be indebted to his founders who expect him not to implement changes. This is not the time to be engaged in what-aboutsm tat fail to question and address the maladies that affect mZansi politics. Politics is fraught with corruption and shady deal to the detriment of ordinary voters.

@moonloon5859 5 ай бұрын

I wonder too. The ANC, DA and EFF are all funded from the west, from London and the WEF. Hopefully It is not the same with MK.

@koolerkool8008 5 ай бұрын

@@Coco-kw3iv Bantu Holomisa obtained documents containing names of CR17 donors and shared with parliament.... Back to the question at hand.who is funding MK party?

@mngadiwiseman4527 5 ай бұрын

Viva MK

@sbonisowisemenluthuli695 5 ай бұрын

Our Country is coming back to the rightful owners. Lizobuya izwe lethu but the elite will try everything in their power to cause a civil fight if our black brothers are not aware

@andrewswales1042 5 ай бұрын

Always race with you lot😅

@sbonisowisemenluthuli695 5 ай бұрын

No man I think you misunderstand my points@@andrewswales1042

@Bantu-860 5 ай бұрын

@@andrewswales1042 He knows you people's game.

@wondermqedlana5615 5 ай бұрын

@@andrewswales1042is He lying in all that He said according to you? Sadly , You heard race in all that He said

@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 5 ай бұрын

@@andrewswales1042it always is about race unless you have the luxury of choosing not to see it.😊

@dannygovender5062 5 ай бұрын

Zuma for president. Cyril must pack his bag's and out he goes 😅

@supreme9801 5 ай бұрын

Wake up from that dream 👏🏾

@bella357 5 ай бұрын

@@supreme9801very much awake

@thaboshabangu 5 ай бұрын

The ANC taking their 112 birthday to mpumalanga ia because they know that ppl of mpumalanga dont have anything to do. They will attend in numbers but if they went to other province like GP KZN and Free State. They will be in an empty stadium.

@AmogelangRSA 4 ай бұрын

the R350 grants people

@zulu9357 5 ай бұрын

Viva MK ❤

@charleshugo-it7xl 5 ай бұрын

now this is good for democracy

@antonjoubert6980 5 ай бұрын

Whoop! I love this! F the ANC!

@ntombinyathikazi6438 5 ай бұрын

One can pose a question. Where is Paul Mashatile I hope wherever he is I think is happy about this MK moves

@sselekane 5 ай бұрын

how? Paul Mashatile does not like Zuma and he made it public....

@goodenoughmahlangu1182 5 ай бұрын

I think DD Mabuza is the one happy

@not.likely 5 ай бұрын

Guessing

@fanamlawuli6761 5 ай бұрын

@@goodenoughmahlangu1182he is a treasonous traitor who will not be welcomed in the MK

@PHILASAND 5 ай бұрын

This analyst ❤

@davidmkefa4188 5 ай бұрын

A drop in the ocean

@sifundojili6123 5 ай бұрын

Viva MK vivaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

@nosikwenane7667 5 ай бұрын

Mkp is formed to save orrpt and dying Anc

@basedsigma5634 5 ай бұрын

A case of:: DIVISION CAN BE A GOOD THING!!... There is not enough left in the treasury for ALL the comrades to " eat"...so now they " eat" each other.

@bngmnh3583 5 ай бұрын

...real opportunists

@Coco-kw3iv 5 ай бұрын

And who is NOT???

@francinamotsa3661 5 ай бұрын

CIC once spoke about this ANC faction and said to his followers beware of supporting ANC factions so I see the excitement from Zuma's supporters, we saw the same support when malls were looted is not like the old man is not loved but thinking MK is the future 😂😂😂😂 that is another ANC the same ANC which stole from South Africans

@makofanetshepho7455 5 ай бұрын

DA, ANC COALITION IS IN EVITABLE

@fin2643 5 ай бұрын

MK and anc will merge....that is what Zuma wants....

@sibusisoshezi9842 5 ай бұрын

Where is Tony Yengeni?

@leonbezuidenhout5085 5 ай бұрын

The EFF will also lose voters to the new MK Party.

@amangileqwabaza5703 5 ай бұрын

Nah I doubt it remember most eff members are people who never really liked Zuma in the 1st place if u remember the formation of the eff was during the Zuma years. So the eff has most members who don't really care about Zuma coz if they did they wouldn't hv ditched the Zuma ANC in the 1st place

@MrLechesa 5 ай бұрын

EFF is capitalizing on young voters. Look at institutions of higher learning. Not old madalas and gogos. The only risk that EFF needs to mitigate is ensuring that the youth actually goes to vote.

@fin2643 5 ай бұрын

lol,,,Even the DA will loose votes ....there are zulus in the DA....

@luyandajayjonsile2545 5 ай бұрын

😂Now S.A citizens are alive talking....i like these debates, whether they racial or fair but stl we moving forward. The Country is divided into 3 MK, EFF and ANC😂 The rest are small boys....where is UDM, COPE, DA, etc

@mathomesamuel801 5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂 Action SA

@luyandajayjonsile2545 5 ай бұрын

@@mathomesamuel801 🤣🤣🤣it's a Movie

@thaboshabangu 5 ай бұрын

ANC 44% MK 24% EFF 15% DA 14 The rest will share % 3 Cope will not return to parliament PAC no parlament ActionSA No Parlament.

@bella357 5 ай бұрын

Msholozi👍

@cbmostert4791 5 ай бұрын

It seems that jesus arrived uninspected 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@fullmetaltheorist 5 ай бұрын

This year's election looks pretty grim for the anc.

@sibusisoshezi9842 5 ай бұрын

Zuma will unseat Ramaphosa

@Nomngcefe 5 ай бұрын

It was stupid move to opt to review old manifesto instead of producing new one.

@juliusselau1383 5 ай бұрын

ANC is cleansing itself. Thank you to Ramaphosa's strategy, all the looters Who is financing this new party ? The Gupta?

@truthspeaks651 5 ай бұрын

Please do not speculate in a condescending manner, you are planting unsubstantiated ideas in the minds of non-thinkers. If you need a proper answer as to who the funders are, wait for the Party Funding Disclosure Report for the last Quarter of the 2023-2024 Financial Year. It is published every quarter by the Electoral Commission in compliance with the Political Party Funding Act of 2018.

@dlaminisabelo2482 5 ай бұрын

Anc has committed suicide.

@MrLechesa 5 ай бұрын

Who funded Ramaphosa with R1billion to bribe his way the ANC ranks?

@firstcomment749 5 ай бұрын

Are the guptas on their way back to SA to be the power behind the Mk thrown or not?

@MrLechesa 5 ай бұрын

@@firstcomment749 who is in power now?? Who is in the sealed documents? Who paid R1billion for Ramaphosa to be parachuted to presidency. That's what you need to concerned about.

@ManteMumty 5 ай бұрын

Must Mosholozi Kingship (MK) rule South African citizens forever?, when President Mbeki was asking for a 3rd term., all South African citizens said "No 3rd term" but today if is Zuma they say rules must change , Zuma come serve again " 3rd term president"

@thulisagrootboom2346 5 ай бұрын

He is the only option we know to work.

@Coco-kw3iv 5 ай бұрын

Oh he was a president in MK party??? Okay 👍

@songezogcezengana9394 5 ай бұрын

@@thulisagrootboom2346 7Chris

@zumkwana101 5 ай бұрын

MK will get more seats for the ANC. Voting for MK is voting for ANC, so save your votes and vote for a different political party.

@sselekane 5 ай бұрын

where is Tony Yengeni?

@nedor64 5 ай бұрын

Enjoying the millions he stole from us.

@user-sg2kw1vl4u 5 ай бұрын

Zuma fighting for Duduzane to be a president

@Coco-kw3iv 5 ай бұрын

And what is your problem? Go and fight for your son too... Simple

@jabulanimathuthu2610 5 ай бұрын

Nonsense

@jabulanimathuthu2610 5 ай бұрын

Is it a crime if he's doing so? Where were u when the captured judiciary harassed Duduzane. His crime was being Zuma's son. Pliz shut up. U celebrated the suffering of Zuma for no reason

@maliwanhlanhla9329 5 ай бұрын

It's fine MK is ours

@fin2643 5 ай бұрын

@@Coco-kw3iv HE shouldnt fight with peoples votes though...

@kadimaalain2658 5 ай бұрын

This is why blacks don’t go far Zuma was a thorn in the foot for blacks and SA IN GENERAL YET HE IS HERE ACTING LIKE THE CHILD OF MOTHER MARRY

@dianasekatane6045 5 ай бұрын

MK is the RET group who aren't satisfied inside the ANC 😊

@ValithubaOliphant-qy6ty 5 ай бұрын

Which group is satisfied within the ANC?

@dandyally9983 5 ай бұрын

As long as they are not Ankole it is OK 😂

@NthatiMotsabi 5 ай бұрын

Even the masses are not satisfied with the ANC

@5801160052086 5 ай бұрын

MK is filled with ex anc that have been booted from the anc gravy train...like the butternut himself

@user-rs4rz6ku8w 5 ай бұрын

Leaving ANC to Mk is just like coming out of prison and trying to get refugee in police camp 😂😂 they will deal with you twice😂😂

@sifundojili6123 5 ай бұрын

I'm not agree with you, we need change kings and spiritual leaders 👑 were left behind before, in our democracy. But chief Albert Luthuli and other's were there during the formation of the Anc. MK will include them.

@unitedkingdomofngunipeople4959 5 ай бұрын

WE STILL RUN SA!!! VIVA MKHONTO WESIZWE VIVA!!! VIVA HONOURABLE PRESIDENT ZUMA AKA THE SUPREME LEADER OF THE PEOPLE VIVA!!! RAMAPHOSA AND HIS MASTERS MUST FALL!! AS FAR US WE THE UNITED KINGDOM OF NGUNI PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED HONOURABLE PRESIDENT ZUMA IS STILL OUR REIGNING PRESIDENT PERIOD! NOT RAMAPHOSA!! RAMAPHOSA WAS SELECTED NOT ELECTED! SIYABUYA!!!

@Expose_bankers_and_auctioneers 5 ай бұрын

"honourable"???

@Killedbyme7 5 ай бұрын

Lol lies Ramaphosa was elected you just can’t accept the results. The branches rejected Zuma’s choice and voted for Cyril.

@Expose_bankers_and_auctioneers 5 ай бұрын

@@jumpinjackflash7140 good one 😂

@FezekaLuhabe-ms6ei 5 ай бұрын

Hooligans must join others

@bonneyg-s3816 5 ай бұрын

You touch Israel,you curse yourself 😊

@andreskorge1828 5 ай бұрын

Nonsense

@michaelmbatha7870 5 ай бұрын

Those are just criminals leaving anc , for mk desperately seeking protection to their father of corruption

@meshcknwashe9101 5 ай бұрын

This political analyst is bias.

@theonly6359 5 ай бұрын

MK is basically Angry dissatisfied ANC members.

@reubentrotter4432 5 ай бұрын

ANC or MK or EFF.. Same roots. How will they change?

@fin2643 5 ай бұрын

FFPLUS & DA have the same National party roots...how will they change??

@zenzonxele9509 5 ай бұрын

Who is this one now. You always bring these ANCORA praise singers to come and moan mnx

@samkunene7521 5 ай бұрын

People have realize that ANC only worked when Zuma was in charge. So they have find their winning horse. Ramaphosa retracted to a sparewheel on his own.

@makoenasomo1067 5 ай бұрын

Zuma can mislead who wants to be

@iramphomane 5 ай бұрын

South africans have a very short memory . Cope was way bigger than this current MK party . And wheres Cope today ? Zuma has ALWAYS been about himself first . Hes the one who benefited directly the most .

@khanyisanimkhize4690 5 ай бұрын

You're lying Cope was a tuckshop with dull leaders

@bhekithembazungu2129 5 ай бұрын

I don’t think anyone can put Mbazima Shilowa and Terror Lekota in the same league as Zuma.

@khanyisanimkhize4690 5 ай бұрын

@@bhekithembazungu2129 Some guys bring us drunk opinions

@MusaHVilakazi 5 ай бұрын

That is not true. Cope never made these waves. MK is found in big Provinces Kzn and Mpumalanga. It is still going to other provinces but it has showed that it is there in these 2 big Provinces. Of which I think Cope never appealed in big provinces.

@unathimichaelmxaku8105 5 ай бұрын

Who is corrupt Ramaphosa or Zuma?

@dlaminisabelo2482 5 ай бұрын

Musa ukusihlebisa, uyazi kahle impendulo yalombuzo. Embezzled R500bln mearnt to make a difference between life and death, Bosasa gate, Sealed so called CR17 campaign documents, millions of rands donated by Saudi Arabia to the Anc but disappeared without a trace,last but not least, millions of foreign currency hidden in soffas and matterasses. What can be worse than that?

@MrLechesa 5 ай бұрын

Ramaphosa, Next question

@unathimichaelmxaku8105 5 ай бұрын

@@dlaminisabelo2482 100% no one is better.

@kamohelolehlohonolozondo4338 5 ай бұрын

Same

@fullmetaltheorist 5 ай бұрын

Both.

@markwinter7511 5 ай бұрын

Zuma can sing and dance and connect with people but his governance record is worse than awful. Supporters should ask him what he did to our credit rating and why he appointed des vanRooyen after the Guptas told him to and how this helped the poor

@Expose_bankers_and_auctioneers 5 ай бұрын

When democracy was invented, politicians had to take a vow of poverty. Why are ours paid like kings?

@philaniphmsomi8340 5 ай бұрын

Come on Mark, the credit agencies are not neutral, they are a tool used by western elites to manipulate financial systems accross the world. The rand was manipulated by banks and the reserve bank should have known about this. Zuma is not perfect but he tried to transform the economy. His relationship with Putin, and their plans about nuclear and Brics were not liked by US and those who control our economy

@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 5 ай бұрын

😂He will never be liked by Dutch settlers.

@markwinter7511 5 ай бұрын

@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 people like zuma are the reason people like you need settlers

@MrLechesa 5 ай бұрын

Still better than Ramaphosa's governance. I'd rather go back to Gupta than to continue with Rupert's suffocation

@zulu9357 5 ай бұрын

Viva BBBEE ❤

@kamohelolehlohonolozondo4338 5 ай бұрын

😂🤣😂🤣! Of course! Are you a beneficiary😂

@fin2643 5 ай бұрын

Why didnt ZUma exproriate the land???? if zuma was so effective, why is the economy still whyte owned??? i think you guys are not serious about racial equality...you only support zuma because he is "Zulu"

@wandisiletembani1456 5 ай бұрын

Zuma misleaded Malema before and he doing the something non to MK

@dandyally9983 5 ай бұрын

😂 you can always tell the amount of tears that went into this statement 😂

@zanelempanza5279 5 ай бұрын

@@dandyally9983🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 eiy iscefe sakho kodwa 😅

@fin2643 5 ай бұрын

Malema is the one who brought back zuma into politics..Malema should have never invited jacob to join the eff....he was busy speaking highly of zuma...even after he was the one who helped remove him from power.. he should have never changed his mind about zuma....even magashule...now he has given them momentum...

@user-ni1yu2tu4s 5 ай бұрын

Zuma is just wanna be a life president. He is just making use of the stupid or greedy people.

@cbmostert4791 5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@user-vw5iq8lp8x 5 ай бұрын

But we all know that those in the ANC who did not want Ramaphosa they voted for EFF including Zuma so the party that will loose members the most is EFF not the ANC. MK is leaderless so they wont defeat the ANC. My predictions for 2024 general election results are as follows, ANC 50%, DA 19 % ,EFF 10% ,IFP 6% ,MK 2% and the rest of the votes will be for smaller parties.

@truthspeaks651 5 ай бұрын

MK is leaderless for now, remember it is only 3 months old. Give them time, then we can judge the quality of leadership they will bring by then. As for your predictions for 2024, the most trusted and the most accurate pollsters in South Africa namely, Ipsos, Social Research Foundation and Brenthurst Foundation put the ANC at 43% - 45%.

@amangileqwabaza5703 5 ай бұрын

Nah u r misleading urself the Eff is a party that was formed against Zuma not Ramaphosa if u remember correctly.. and now it's voters will come from young students who don't care about Zuma or Ramaphosa, who r effsc voters who love the eff from school

@dlaminisabelo2482 5 ай бұрын

I never thought that we still have false prophets, do we still have the Bushiris here?

@SylviaMitchell-tz2sl 5 ай бұрын

Maybe you can play lotto with that numbers 😂

@tamara40 5 ай бұрын

@@truthspeaks651your prediction is 💯 incorrect 😅😅😅😅 Jho Wena you are ANC lover anyway Salani me ANC yenu and we hope that ANC we dilver after 2024 Mina andizi 😮😮Sana ngibaleka🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃 ngenyawo zombili

@muchtruth 5 ай бұрын

This MK party might be a blessing in disguise. ANC is arrogant. ANC should have removed all corrupt officials and bring back the rule of law. I think SA needs to go down first before it goes up, therefore this proliferation of political parties may help do that, then we will wake and realize that we need each other.

@sifundojili6123 5 ай бұрын

That's genius thought.

@Thokozani1787 5 ай бұрын

And hopefully this can be the end of political parties as we know them, so we can vote for individuals directly.

@muchtruth 5 ай бұрын

@@Thokozani1787 Yes. I hope so. There a lot of people who can do better, a large percentage of this politicians are there for survival.