Whats your first bike?

And witch one did you get?

superduke, best bike ever. @@Trotsetukker

@@Supernova12034 haha. Alright!

Commuting, consistent, day after day boring riding, I think I'd lean towards the RS. Passenger...they are pretty even there but the plush seat on the RS might be better for the passenger. Ride safe, Scott

Thank you. The 890 is the fastest, the 660 is the most fun and the Shiver is the most civilized and heaviest by far. 👍 Have fun trying to decide! 😁

@@NothingToProve I'm leaning towards the 660, but I'm not sure if it would be ok for short trips of a few days.

@@chrismalton1904 Yea, weekends are ok, but longer you'll need some stamina.

@@NothingToProve The Shiver 900 might make the most sense given versatility and current prices. Thanks for the videos, they're a great help.

​@@chrismalton1904 Hi Chris. What did you end up buying? I'm also undecided between the Shiver 900 and the Tuono 660. Any comments on your choice would be highly appreciated.

Wow, that's a great price, in what country? Just curious because 2017 was the year they stopped selling the 750 & switched to the 900 here in the western countries (Europe & U.S.).

NothingToProve USA UT. Great bike

What's with the Duke?

@@megaFINZ overheating, radiator will be completely empty after 150km, dealer replaced everything and issue was not solved, ecu failure, low oil pressure, ...

@@solomon0o0o0ozz well that sucks. Did you get Shiver already? I'm not entirely happy with mine. Not in terms of reliability, but in terms of how the bike rides and feels. I think 790 would be a better choice, although more pricey.

ktm have alot of engine issues...i want to love em but everyone i know that own have massive engine failure.

Hi, Wow, that is a huge difference in bikes! Cruiser vs. naked. I'd take the Shiver all day long over the Vulcan but as a beginner...hmm, now that's a different question. I believe that the Shiver would make a great second bike for any body. But first bike that would depend on the size of the person. Say my size, 176 cm and larger, it could do as a first bike. But the person needs to have a type "A" personality or his skills will grow much slower than normal vs. if he were to start out on a smaller bike. I've seen this happen many times in my riding career, it's sad to see someone progressing slowly because the bike is too big for him. The Vulcan is on my "to do" list. Sooooo many bikes, soooooooo little time.

Great, I guess the Vulcan S then. It's more ptactical for me and I can fit it with nice saddle bags and a sissy bar :) Thanks for your help.

Hello, what do you think of the Z900? Have you tested it yet? For A2?

Monster will be a little more reliable than this but when you get older bikes, then it's more about what you are willing to do (yourself) on the bike and do you trust your local dealer. I do like the looks of the monster better though :)

The deal with the clutch is that you don't have to use it much. For upshifts you can either don't use it at all or move it like 5% or so. For downshifts I move it around 40% in a quick two-finger pull. Doesn't cause any noticeable strain to me. The weight is a different story though, going to rid of mine too because of it.

@@megaFINZ What's your height, guys?

@@impact0r 178 cm (5'10'').

@@megaFINZ Do you think height played the role in the weight being too much for you? I am 193cm and am considering this bike. Also, what did you change to?

@@impact0r I don't think so, I guess it's just the weight distribution of a particular bike. I bought R1200RS as a cruiser bike, it weighs 20 kg more, but feels much more solid and comfortable to control. Another major negative point in SL900 for me turns out to be cornering stability: I don't feel secure in corners, especially in bumpy ones. All the other bikes I've ridden (F800R, R1200RS, KTM SDGT, Honda Hornet) do not have that feeling.

Hi, I have not ridden the 821, other monsters, yes, but not the 821. So I cannot give you a honest evaluation. I do like the Shiver more so than the monsters generally speaking, especially the sound and torque. I'd take a new Shiver over a two year old monster any day. But if you need the name....well then you need the Ducati. It comes down to an emotional decision.

@@NothingToProve Thank you for your response. I do not need a name, Ducati just looks better to me. Trumph Street Triple sounds not good and I do not really like it. The BMW R1200R looks good, except for the boxer's very protruding engine. Aprilia is too modern, more like a sports motorcycle.

Thanks Nestoras, yes, I was very impressed with this bike, the only small complaint is the turning radius but that is a very minor complaint. Comfort: well I'm 176 cm tall and I felt like I could ride all day without a problem but if you are a little taller than that, go for the Dorsoduro, it is a little taller but plenty of leg room. The fuel economy is about normal for the group, especially if you compare it to the Ducati's.

NothingToProve Thanks for the reply m8! I found an 11 months old 2017 model with 4.500km on the clock, for 5.900! Tomorrow I am gonna travel some 360km (both ways) on my scooter to check it up and if as in the photos purchase it! It was rather unexpected since I was thinking for something more classic like the Moto Guzzi V 7 but seeing all this beauty and quality, combined with the price, I can't resist. And already checked there are some parts that allow you to lower the pegs by 2.5cm so I guess I will be ok. I would consider Dorsoduro since I am heavy and wouldn't mind longer suspension travel, but you and other reviewers said that its more snatchy than the Shiver, plus a bit worse on fuel consumption (plus there is none practically new on bargain price lol), and I am a bit old for supemotard! Not to try it, to own it! Wish me luck for tomorrow!

GOOD LUCK!!!! And let me know if you are the proud owner of an Aprilia Shiver!!!!!!!!

Hey there! I went all the way to Patra from Athens on my Piaggio Medley 150! Through a hurricane and back! I covered overall 450km in 10 hours on a scooter and the water went all the way through my skin to my bones hehe! Quite an adventure! Shiver 900 was there waiting for me. I checked it up, she was looking gorgeous and flawless, with not even a scratch! Engine was too agresive though for me, so was the position of the legs, too high the pegs and too far behind. To be honest it was a bit too streetfighter for me! The store was the dealer of Piaggio group in that city, so they had many other bikes. I asked to check the V 7 III. The position of riding was me. the engine was me too. They had one special, black with the green stripe as demo bike. 730km on the clock! Took it for a short ride since it was raining and she sounded right and felt right in my hands! They were asking for 7700 I got it for 7400! Brand new goes for 8.490 here the special. It will be ready on Tuesday! What a day! Thanks for the feedback on both those models, and your great reviews motivated me to look it up further and grab my scooter for such a journey!

@@nestorasbellas6604 φιλε μου να σε ρωτησω μιας και ειδα οτι πηγες πατρα με το medley.Θα χρειαστει να κανω και γω μια παρομοια διαδρομη με το medley 150 , εχεις να συμβουλεψεις κατι για να μην ''καει''!!!με ποσο πηγαινες σταθερα κτλ κτλ.ευχαριστω πολυ

no problem at all

Hi Kjetil, greetings from Germany! If you are a bigger guy, then yes, you can start out on this without much difficulty. I actually liked it very very much. Yea, since I've moved to Germany I've been picking up more and more German, so my English is becoming "dinglish" instead of English...lol.

Actually i’m not a beginner but rusty.Some years ago since last time.Find some parking places to get the bike into my hands again.And why i reacted on the Aprilia was that v-twin.Reminds me on the Suzuki TL1000S who i loved.:)

Well, if you are concerned with long term cost on any Italian motorcycle, then maybe you shouldn't get one 🤔 Ducati, Aprilia, Moto Guzzi...etc. will all cost more than say the Japanese brands of course. I would ask the dealer what the cost is for first service and second and if it's still under factory warranty and if not then what is the warranty that they are offering if you buy this bike. And if you are willing to pay the above costs, then it's worth it to you cause then you are not surprised when you see the service bill 😊 Pillion, I don't know, but I've herd some guys say it's not bad for a middleweight naked bike, it compares well to the other nakeds in the group. Ride safe, Scott

@@NothingToProve ended up finding a like new 2017 Triumph Tiger 800 XTr so we bought that...lots of extras on it and runs great. Thanks for the response.

Gangsta style! LOL!

It makes it more aerodynamic LOL!.