Wall logic & finding lost colonial homesites reading the land

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Not Thursday

Not Thursday

5 жыл бұрын

Abandoned 1700s farms in New Hampshire found following old rock walls & the land.
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Here in New England in the reforested lands deep in remote areas you can find lost history. So many locations that you would not even think once were the homesites and farms of the early colonists and settlers that came to America. In this part of New Hampshire NH I have figured out a bit part of the puzzle and it all comes down to the wall logic. The way these people played out the old stone walls in most cases makes a lot of sense and if you look hard enough and seen the time out in the woods following them it all makes a lot more sense.
In this video I go looking in a massive piece of forest in search of cellar holes ( old foundations ) from the 1700s where early settlers once built their homes. The plan is to locate these sites so they can be documented, mapped and then of course metal detected to recover any artifacts and relics we can. Well, on this day I read the landscape as I go and explain the logic of why walls are laid out they way they are. This old ground was granted to people back then to be settled as well as improve the land. Today was a great success and I did find a homesite with a cellar hole that I will be metal detecting with my Garrett ATGOLD in epodes coming up this week,
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@joeyadcock9428
@joeyadcock9428 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your constant focus on passing along the knowledge you have amassed over your years of trial and error. I greatly appreciate all of your continued service and instruction!
@bobinmaine1
@bobinmaine1 5 жыл бұрын
Wow Charlie the timing of this vid is unreal. Two weeks ago me and a couple of friends were looking for an old home site my friend had found on an old map. We got permission and headed out. It's located in an area where we all grew up in southern Maine so we had a pretty good idea where it should be. The going was tough, thick undergrowth and even thicker bugs, black flies, mosquitos and ticks. We spread out as we headed into the woods and almost immediately my buddy Brian yells out that he's on a wall so we all meet up. To me it was as odd as could be, it had what you call a proper corner or opening but it was just wide enough to be a path and the wall itself was only 20 feet long. Then we found another piece of wall that went straight into the swamp, not all the way through but into. I also found a big chunk of granite with about 6 stones stacked on top. We detected the area and all found items related to a worked property. I found an old ax head and an oxen shoe. My friend John found an oxen shoe and Brian found some kind of old brass tack. We came across a hole but it may have been natural as we found nothing not even one nail around it. Now I absolutely know that we were probably very close to the homesite. The plan was already to go back in the late fall but now I will go back with high expectations. Thanks again for putting out these videos!!
@Tmanscar
@Tmanscar 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Charlie for taking the time to explain your method, now it makes complete sense to me why i find some random short run walls.
@dwarftoad
@dwarftoad 5 жыл бұрын
Magnetic declination (magnetic north vs. true north, more or less) has shifted since 1700 by about 4 degrees, and today it's off by about 14 degrees from true north (in the northeast US). Or maybe they were using some other north reference that varied from either true north or accurate magnetic north by compass. Plus a different map projection, plus any manner of systematic error in the map.
@hedgehogville
@hedgehogville 5 жыл бұрын
I love seeing the expanse of wall in your neck of the woods...ours tend to fall short due to the building of roads, homes, etc...
@tinman7130
@tinman7130 5 жыл бұрын
those massive walls are so intriguing. the effort to construct them must have been tremendous. As was your effort to hike it check it and record it for us all to enjoy our Not Thursday
@183charlesspiva
@183charlesspiva 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me follow along on these excursions, I learn something new EVERY one of them. Not Thursday is great!
@MNpicker
@MNpicker 5 жыл бұрын
.....that colonial stone bridge tho👌🏼
@patriciasullivan7967
@patriciasullivan7967 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing hike and cellar hole find. I can't wait until your able to metal detect it. I learn from you on every video about history. Thanks Charlie
@americanartifacts8092
@americanartifacts8092 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome information, it helps make sense of how the land was used through the layers of time. Really makes me want to get out and explore. Fascinating episode, thank you!
@chrisjordan4574
@chrisjordan4574 5 жыл бұрын
Great NT Charlie!!! You take to the next level through the researching and exploring prior to the hunt👍👍👍 Your clear use of logic in finding sites is amazing 😉 Looking forward to the relic recoveries😃😃😃 Thanks!!!
@chuckvt5196
@chuckvt5196 5 жыл бұрын
Such an informative and interesting video! Great stuff here, Charlie! Who the heck are those three people who gave this a thumb's down? Poor little grumpy babies! LOL! LFOD, my friend!
@jim-do5pt
@jim-do5pt 5 жыл бұрын
You are sooo good , in recording/mapping/ and relic recovery, of YOUR/our History...! Thanks!
@lesahanners5057
@lesahanners5057 5 жыл бұрын
You sure have lovely topography Charlie and you are so good at reading the land. If this had been the 18th century I'm sure you would have been hired to scout out the land or to be a surveyor. What beautiful woods and walls. You are really doing a great service while having a great time hiking at the same time. You can't ask for better than that! Thanks for sharing this lovely ramble, it really is so enjoyable to get out with you on a hike through the woods. Looking forward to a return to that home-site and cellar hole, it looks very promising. Have a great day!
@steveinthemountains8264
@steveinthemountains8264 5 жыл бұрын
Very scenic stand of woods....and Interesting colonial stone bridge. Get swinging....get digging!
@jaynemaggie
@jaynemaggie 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Charlie, How cool to find that cellar hole, Cant wait for that episode to see what you find there. So interesting listening to your knowledge and the history . Alot of land was granted then, huge . 😊👍🏻🥄
@HomesteadJay
@HomesteadJay 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice video! I love NH, as I told you before lived here my whole life and the scenery is beautiful! God Bless. Thanks for the good tips on the walls! Behind my parents house growing up there was 100's of acres ( we didnt own) but we explored and we found walls all the time!
@Uncle_Bucks_Forge
@Uncle_Bucks_Forge 5 жыл бұрын
love these exploring videos. I think Id carry a pin pointer just to see what kind of sample I could find at the sight. I'm sure I'd get tired of the tin and nails though.
@rogerdempsey7227
@rogerdempsey7227 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome Charlie you think to work so hard to Build That Wall around a hundred acres and not much left but maybe some small artifacts it saw that people wooden door so much hard work but they came to America build a new life so they must knew it was going to be so hard I'll see you on the next one stay blessed
@coinspaderssp
@coinspaderssp 5 жыл бұрын
Really just a shaped hole in the ground, not easy to spot in the thick woods. Nice job!
@normawinton6832
@normawinton6832 5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait too see what you find at that cellar hole. Nice stream too!
@TrooperBri
@TrooperBri 5 жыл бұрын
You're on fire with that new methodology.
@spectrumbill6775
@spectrumbill6775 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed it tremendously, thanks for the lesson once again...it is beginning to make sense even to one such as myself.
@CarolinaDiggers
@CarolinaDiggers 5 жыл бұрын
@ 9:15 that why you should bring a MineLab Go Find 60 just in case you find a place like that. Since the Go Find 60 is compact enough to pack up in your backpack to carry.
@stringfrenzy
@stringfrenzy 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. What an outing+. Keep up the good work.
@kevinstrickland4881
@kevinstrickland4881 5 жыл бұрын
So when you go out on these cellar hole hunts instead of carrying your detector, just bring your pin pointer to check for sounds around the area. Nice hunting again DC!
@alexandervalaris72
@alexandervalaris72 3 жыл бұрын
Heard a good explanation from Tom Wessels that makes sense. Between 1798 and 1810 there was sheep mania on US farms. It's possible they are all just pens for sheep but I'll be honest. I grew up in Southbury CT and not all the stone walls I saw where 4 sided pens. Although I do lean towards his theory. He said he roughly calculated how many stones where used all over New England and you could build 6 great pyramids of Egypt
@markattardo
@markattardo 5 жыл бұрын
Great hike and info!
@bubblesangel555
@bubblesangel555 5 жыл бұрын
Having a Not Thursday on Monday, is a great way to start the week, thanks Digger Charlie!👍👍
@albakanas3558
@albakanas3558 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you DC
@5280Adventures
@5280Adventures 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the search. Great explanation of the terrain and sites. Thank you
@bamadave6324
@bamadave6324 5 жыл бұрын
great explanation of your method down here we use Spanish land grants which are diamond shaped compared to the N-S grids of the land grid system makes them stand out like a sore thumb however we have no stone walls or very seldom a cellar hole and occasionally a remnant of an old CW era roadbed Good vid keep em coming!
@jessiepayne737
@jessiepayne737 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the walk about, looking forward to more as well as your finds as Tully detect the site for evidence. Always enjoy your videos and as always Be Safe and HH.
@DigginWithDeej
@DigginWithDeej 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing adventure Charlie!
@babyrazor6887
@babyrazor6887 5 жыл бұрын
Local historical society lets me look at old maps. I get a pretty good general idea where the house was. Then it's dowsing rod time followed by metal detecting.
@BrianClunie
@BrianClunie 5 жыл бұрын
I love using/detecting old stone walls, they are awesome indicators!!
@MrAussiedarren
@MrAussiedarren 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent ramble DC. Great job on discovering another cellar hole and looking forward to seeing if there was anything left behind 👍👍👍 SDNT
@yomangull2538
@yomangull2538 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats on finding another home site Charlie. I'm sure there's no cross century contamination at that location.
@rammur1
@rammur1 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice find !
@davidraines2544
@davidraines2544 5 жыл бұрын
That was a great find. I hope there’s lots of great things around. I really enjoy your videos
@jamesnauert7844
@jamesnauert7844 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent information, thanks for sharing this.
@donmerz4166
@donmerz4166 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another informative video.
@JessicaShull1928
@JessicaShull1928 5 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed your video, as always.
@413MassDigger
@413MassDigger 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome man,, looking forward to the vids from that new site!! Thanks for finding it HH
@bogdonkey2858
@bogdonkey2858 5 жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@valerieloeffler6174
@valerieloeffler6174 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting!! Thanks!
@mezellenjohnson2753
@mezellenjohnson2753 5 жыл бұрын
Logic indeed, by using what you have learned over the years you are finding homesites that have been missed for years. Well done Charlie and thank you for the great hike. I enjoyed my Not Thursday experience and look forward to many more. Take care my friend, good luck and happy hunting Mary-Ellen LFOD
@robertsawyers6535
@robertsawyers6535 5 жыл бұрын
Great searching
@NorCalTim
@NorCalTim 5 жыл бұрын
A fascinating hike! Looking forward to you getting out there with the 'ol detector.
@TheReal-HeeHaw
@TheReal-HeeHaw 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the colonial survey. Let's hope there's some nice future finds. Enjoyed watching N.T once again ✌
@rondathiesen9317
@rondathiesen9317 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job Charlie! U gotta go back with detectors!!😊😊
@kathleencoughlin4314
@kathleencoughlin4314 5 жыл бұрын
cant wait to see more 😀great place😀good hunting it down 👍
@RCBuildaholic001
@RCBuildaholic001 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the info Charlie, now I can check the walls here in VT and maybe find some more foundations that aren’t on the map!
@craigtalley
@craigtalley 5 жыл бұрын
Cool video love the exploring videos! Looks like you might have some new spots.
@jameykuesthardt5530
@jameykuesthardt5530 5 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see what comes out of that cellar hole! Hopefully some really great relics!!! ENJOY YOUR NOT THURSDAY!!!!!
@deniseskewes4852
@deniseskewes4852 5 жыл бұрын
Charlie, with all the stuff you carry in that back pack, why do you not carry a rain poncho. You can pick up some at the dollar store. Better than getting soaked and sick.
@ll-qq9qr
@ll-qq9qr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I love your channel and what you do.... However, I live in Upstate NY and have acres of land with these old walls and I often wonder about these walls. But, you have to ask yourself.... They had an abundance of wood (trees) Why didn't they just build fences. It would have been alot less labor intensive. Also, there is a building code in these walls if you study them there is a weird and difficult repetition. I tried putting an old wall back together that was knocked over and it was nearly impossible to reproduce the style that it was originally built. Also, some of the stones in the walls are tremendous and would be impossible to move/ build with. Then there are always weird stone configurations near these walls.
@matthewsee8557
@matthewsee8557 5 жыл бұрын
Nice!, Digger Charlie, but not a digger in this one. Loved the wall explanation. Wish there wall in Iowa, it would help find history. Mad Metal Matt
@ClaytonCountyHistoryHound
@ClaytonCountyHistoryHound 5 жыл бұрын
The first stream you crossed was beautiful but the colonial bridge stream was amazing. I could sit there all day and contemplate everything and everyone that may have been there before me. Thanks for sharing your discovery, take care and be safe.
@dryheat85255
@dryheat85255 5 жыл бұрын
Noticed that there were some big old trees near the cellar holes. Some of these trees must be 150-200 years old if not older. Are these old trees indications of early settlers nearby or is it the reverse. I an guessing that all of the land has probably been cut several times by loggers including in the late 19th century and early 20th century. Were these bigger trees intentionally left in place? Beautiful forest and that little spring and stone bridge are classic New England.
@SunshineFarm-a21
@SunshineFarm-a21 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this vid! I'm sure you could do many more on how to research (during COVID time), mapping out & plotting parcels/ tracts of land incl their interior walls etc. With all the yrs I've spent off-road hiking, exploring and following cart paths and walls (no metal detecting, I'm more interested in the history) I'm curious to hear other ppls observations with older 1700s walls (vs. 18 or 1900s). Have you noticed w/rocks used, were they shaped differently (more square vs. round) also lichen. ..as with old headstones, older 1700s rock walls have different lichen? It would be awesome to know if y'all notice this or am in an area that specifically has this.. or lmao am I imagining it ha!
@NotThursday
@NotThursday 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed that the rocks used in different regions are noticed. Also a big thing is at times you can the difference in the way people built there walls and stone structure by where in the world they came from. For instance the Irish built the tightest and best walls I have ever seen and you can tell when you see them they came from Ireland.
@SunshineFarm-a21
@SunshineFarm-a21 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotThursday I was not aware of this! That is very cool, interesting and
@SunshineFarm-a21
@SunshineFarm-a21 3 жыл бұрын
intriguing!! I wouldn't have thought abt country of origin.. but know t that you've said it, it'll be something I look out for! It really is amazing & special we can head out into the woods & forests, read the land & with as little as a map (paper or digital), our own pair of eyes and genuine curiosity, if we choose to, we can learn so much abt life back in olden times! It's humbling honestly.. (thinking & pondering) Comparing life to present day; what these folks truly went through, how they lived and what they must have endured carving out a section of NH (or New England) to make it their own 😊
@darrylwithrow293
@darrylwithrow293 5 жыл бұрын
240,000 miles of walls at its peak in New England, enough to circle the earth 8 friggin times!
@1989Falkor
@1989Falkor 2 жыл бұрын
My family immigrated from Prussia in 1700 to New York state, I would love to find their original homestead and metal detect it. hmmmmmm
@davidinghram2494
@davidinghram2494 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is not a new video, but it was new to me. I was wondering, do you use a gps to exactly map these locations for future return? My late wife and I used to enjoy metal detecting, and were a part of a local club. I still have our units and they are still like new. They are a Fisher 1220X and a Compass coin scanner. Are these still good units to use? Thanks
@aliasfred
@aliasfred 5 жыл бұрын
When a cellar hole surprises you by popping up out of no where, do you geo tag it on your GPS?
@terrencegibbons3351
@terrencegibbons3351 5 жыл бұрын
I have 100 acres of old forest in gilmanton nh if I ever want to scout
@JanVafa
@JanVafa 5 жыл бұрын
Is it on a south/east facing slope (better sun exposure during winter)? Maybe they didn’t build on the tops of the hills or flat places because of wind across the top or wanting to use the flatter area for maybe a garden or crops?
@chrisbentleywalkingandrambling
@chrisbentleywalkingandrambling 5 жыл бұрын
You say they were cut up into grids. What were the dimensions of the grids? Really interested. 🤔🙄
@swampfizz
@swampfizz 5 жыл бұрын
are those grant squares 160 acres like the later homestead act?
@Boghog1
@Boghog1 5 жыл бұрын
What are you using for mapping these? GPS?
@jeffadams7
@jeffadams7 5 жыл бұрын
Just curious Charlie, do you carry a sidearm when you’re out alone? Especially when so far away from civilization. I hope so
@demonprinces17
@demonprinces17 5 жыл бұрын
Think u tube won't let him say
@jeffadams7
@jeffadams7 5 жыл бұрын
@@demonprinces17 thanks
@tomwilliams8675
@tomwilliams8675 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should start carrying your propointer with you.
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