The Tory Heartland Where Voters Have GIVEN UP On Democracy

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4 күн бұрын

Aaron went down to Chichester to find out why people in the Tory heartlands have given up on politics.
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@dextercool
@dextercool 2 күн бұрын
The furlough money came ftom taxpayers - not Tories.
@jcanyiam8309
@jcanyiam8309 2 күн бұрын
So ***king True! I guess after 14 years, that's all he's got to cling on to. The TORY PARTY has cost Me my business and lots of my EU Friends due to BREXIT.
@anthonydude
@anthonydude 2 күн бұрын
Actually it came from everyone, whether or not they pay tax
@1aatlas
@1aatlas 2 күн бұрын
And also whether or not they have been born yet.
@anthonydude
@anthonydude 2 күн бұрын
@@1aatlas true. Also, everyone in the UK has benefited from that spending, whether or not they received it directly, or have been born yet.
@jankench1731
@jankench1731 2 күн бұрын
It benefited the rich employers ie the wife of the current Prime minister for example.
@olliehodgkinson5023
@olliehodgkinson5023 2 күн бұрын
Genuinely refreshing to see a leftist old man at 12:39!
@vinopacino2423
@vinopacino2423 2 күн бұрын
Talked a lot of sense the old boy. He's right, the system is broken in this country
@philiplevins6702
@philiplevins6702 2 күн бұрын
a proper 'old school' Gentleman...spoke with balance and reason...something we need more of ( imho )
@El-Burrito
@El-Burrito 2 күн бұрын
Glad he exists, sad to hear it sounds like he's given up hope. But it's not easy when you see things the way he does.
@beanbunn4029
@beanbunn4029 2 күн бұрын
Nice to see a clued up old man.
@marktime9235
@marktime9235 2 күн бұрын
Totally agree with this chap. Need more like him. Spread the word mate!
@Waywoodprojects
@Waywoodprojects 2 күн бұрын
100 years of loyalty repaid with turds in the rivers. Says it all.
@Shrike-Valeo
@Shrike-Valeo 2 күн бұрын
Tories dont do mistakes. They know and choose to act corrupt and inept.
@shortydoc85
@shortydoc85 Күн бұрын
😢😢fh! Ku up
@joaquimioakim229
@joaquimioakim229 Күн бұрын
Yes because Labour never lied about WMDs and went into a w20 year war that cost thousands of civilians lives in their country, over five hundred military live and counting and cost 36 Billion pounds and counting Have a look at disgraced Kieth vas with his rent boys and cocaine habit and now Lord, Peter Mandlesons record
@SC-bp5lq
@SC-bp5lq Күн бұрын
They are deliberately "throwing the fight" to assist Starmer too. Washington has ordered it.
@hsthatzo8063
@hsthatzo8063 8 сағат бұрын
@@SC-bp5lq"Leftists": right wing conspiracy theorist!! The jab was 100% safe! Also leftists: **your comment**
@biscuit4259
@biscuit4259 2 күн бұрын
Love an old socialist.
@vincetownsend2514
@vincetownsend2514 2 күн бұрын
He was a guy I could really relate to! And the Super Dry man.
@alexanderfuchs8742
@alexanderfuchs8742 Күн бұрын
except for wanting to risk nuclear war he seemed chill
@jessicamilestone4026
@jessicamilestone4026 Күн бұрын
He was brilliant. Someone I could honestly say, I'd be happy to chat witg for hours.
@Bobmudu35UK
@Bobmudu35UK Күн бұрын
He seemed to have a soft spot for dictatorships. Naive old fool.
@montaguewithnail6372
@montaguewithnail6372 Күн бұрын
@@Bobmudu35UK Bastani should have shown him the picture of Starmer looking like Stalin and maybe he would've voted Labour.
@guapochino140
@guapochino140 2 күн бұрын
45 years of neoliberalism and you get the most apathetic country on earth. It's worked out perfectly.
@ciaranirvine
@ciaranirvine 2 күн бұрын
I keep saying, there's a REASON why the US and UK have been most obviously affected in this age of disinformation, conspiracy theories, "alternative facts" and right-wing sadopopulism. It's the decades of neoliberalism.
@rolandrothwell4840
@rolandrothwell4840 2 күн бұрын
I agree people are apathetic or very reactionary.
@guapochino140
@guapochino140 Күн бұрын
@@rolandrothwell4840 True. I suppose they are 2 sides of the same coin.
@sparking2016
@sparking2016 Күн бұрын
It's not apathy it's surrender
@ttynorttyl
@ttynorttyl Күн бұрын
It's embarrassing. I'm from the UK but left years ago. It's odd going back and seeing what's going on. Weird atmosphere.
@vladimirimp
@vladimirimp Күн бұрын
This was my constituency until I moved recently. Ms Keegan was a terrible MP. Near the bottom of the list of accessibility. She wouldn’t answer a message but you could hear her every other night on LBC. Definition of self serving. Keegan can’t even pronounce ‘Chichester’ - was just installed there because it was a safe seat.
@robertcarter6963
@robertcarter6963 15 сағат бұрын
I agree totally! I am from Chichester. Keegan does not care about the area! She is a career politician and nothing more!
@user-ou9kv5cz2c
@user-ou9kv5cz2c 2 күн бұрын
The conservatives have done a brilliant job ?! What universe is that woman in ?
@taykitrleevitt4314
@taykitrleevitt4314 2 күн бұрын
Her husband probably received a P.P.E contract.
@janetmalcolm6191
@janetmalcolm6191 2 күн бұрын
Some have been on another planet.
@EuroGhgkj
@EuroGhgkj 2 күн бұрын
They are utterly deluded 😱
@RebelRebelious
@RebelRebelious Күн бұрын
Probably a local party member. Or maybe just deluded.
@JackVezz
@JackVezz Күн бұрын
They did a sterling job for people like her and only like her. Not surprising at all tbh
@user-nv7ly1fd6d
@user-nv7ly1fd6d 2 күн бұрын
The Gentleman 12 mins in is had it all right. Top man he is
@philiplevins6702
@philiplevins6702 2 күн бұрын
totally agree...a gentleman who's 'been there and got the T-shirt'...wise words indeed from him...the political system is a sham...I'm in my late 50's and can, hand on heart, say he hit the proverbial nail on the head...peace ☘☘
@MMartinVideo
@MMartinVideo 2 күн бұрын
The guy at 15 minutes, protect him at all costs!
@mh1593
@mh1593 2 күн бұрын
someone nicked his crisps!
@bernardkrarup6774
@bernardkrarup6774 2 күн бұрын
"I don't think our system of politics works". He nailed it.
@Jim1255783
@Jim1255783 2 күн бұрын
Chichester is broken; did you see that elderly gentleman getting mugged in broad daylight in a drive-by, had his crisps stolen from him at @14:00, just awful.
@fs7808
@fs7808 12 сағат бұрын
Ahahahahaha
@suec6521
@suec6521 6 сағат бұрын
That's what happens when you give a person with a disability a wheelchair.
@user-dh7gp9hu4w
@user-dh7gp9hu4w 2 күн бұрын
Elderly man in the beige jacket had it right.
@user-xd7dk3oy3q
@user-xd7dk3oy3q 2 күн бұрын
Paying for the wealthy to get wealthy whilst the most vulnerable are left to suffer!
@Ste-sr1fr
@Ste-sr1fr 2 күн бұрын
The resigned attitude of the elderly socialist was sad to see.
@stanogden8864
@stanogden8864 2 күн бұрын
There are plenty of us.
@howardrisby9621
@howardrisby9621 2 күн бұрын
I ought to be a dead cert for Labour , but I'm not and that's due a very broad sweep of policy issues, as much concerning what's missing as what's there. I simply cannot vote for a party aiming to follow a course I can only describe as (small 'c') conservative, sold on being more competent than the current feral tory party. How ANYONE, let alone the young can be taken in by RefUK's lies is beyond me. A flatlining economy and years of collapsing public services and shattered faith in progress has led us here. This is NOT a good place to be.
@stevenhenry5267
@stevenhenry5267 2 күн бұрын
Blame Tik Tok.
@karlgw
@karlgw Күн бұрын
sad, but still refreshing to see an older socialist
@montaguewithnail6372
@montaguewithnail6372 Күн бұрын
Bastani should have asked him what he thought of George Galloway.
@Sam-ue3yu
@Sam-ue3yu 2 күн бұрын
Announcing you want to go to another country because too many people have come to your country is an effective way to convey your intelligence
@Bward888
@Bward888 2 күн бұрын
What are his options then? This is actually one of the arguments against immigration. An Indian India will still be there for the Indians that want it, but there is no meaningfully English England somewhere else for this man to flee too. There is an economic zone called England, but he increasingly feels like a stranger in his own homeland. You should pay attention to his concerns because they are shared by millions, not just here, but all across the West. They will be fueling significant political changes in the near future.
@deicide666100
@deicide666100 2 күн бұрын
@@Bward888you’re missing the irony of his statement, there are too many foreigners so he wants to leave and then become himself a foreigner in whatever country he decides to go to, it doesn’t solve anything, it creates two immigrants instead of creating a plan that gives people opportunities in their own countries so they don’t need to find a new home, simply blocking access does nothing except make people find new ways to get around the block, stop the reason at the source and it isn’t an issue anymore
@kravan5063
@kravan5063 2 күн бұрын
Your comment would have a point if he was against any form of migration, which he clearly isn't, he's against mass migration. So him leaving the country isn't fulfilling 'mass migration' as he is one person, emigrating. There is no contradiction or hint of hypocrisy in his position. If you were as smart as you think you are you'd realise that and not make a comment like this.
@tr3vk4m
@tr3vk4m 2 күн бұрын
@@kravan5063 Doesn't like foreigners - wants to move to live with foreigners...?
@keirmitchell5560
@keirmitchell5560 2 күн бұрын
Explain where things have got better
@Steven-vo4ee
@Steven-vo4ee 2 күн бұрын
Red coated woman's husband must be delighted, she's extremely easily pleased!
@desiladygamer2076
@desiladygamer2076 2 күн бұрын
But she has a crush on Rishi so maybe not.
@andrewglasson4583
@andrewglasson4583 2 күн бұрын
I don't understand all these Tories complaining about the state of water when they would have voted for Thatcher in the 80s and now privatisation as become a failure they are turning against the Tories. Until we get rid of neoliberal economics and go back to embedded liberal economics that we had between 1945 and 1975 nothing is going to change.
@user-tt6il2up4o
@user-tt6il2up4o 2 күн бұрын
We voted for thatcher for the following reasons. Country was technically bankrupt. Unions and closed shops ran the country, no union card meant no job, upset the shop steward and you got fired for having no union card. Secondary picketing meant you might be able to get into your place of work due to this and therefore no pay. Unions were on strike Rubbish piled in streets due to strikes 3 days week as no electricity due to power workers or coal workers striking. Waiting 6 months to get a landline installed. Etc Etc Etc If you did not live through this terrible time, don’t comment on something you don’t know about.
@dennismccarthy7032
@dennismccarthy7032 2 күн бұрын
Thatcher asset stripped Britain. I'm voting Workers Party their policies will undo the harm she caused .
@WarrenPeaceOG
@WarrenPeaceOG 2 күн бұрын
@@user-tt6il2up4o We don't have unions now, so none of that should be a worry. Keynesian economics is what's powering China. Neoliberalism has created nothing but gross inequality, stagnant economies, and shit-hole countries with collapsing schools and hospitals and shit in the water. It's astonishing how universal its effects are in every country it was tried. In Canada, for example, they also have people dying in ambulances in the hospital parking lot. Underfunding. Privitization. Falling living standards. Kindergarten economics🤮
@howardrisby9621
@howardrisby9621 2 күн бұрын
​@@user-tt6il2up4oActually, I did come through it. The first PM I recall was Macmillan. Sorry.this is on the long side ..... As now, the media in 1979 played it's part (and I'm not denying the likes of Scargill and Bickerstaffe played theirs too). There's one variable which really doesn't get the airtime it should. North Sea Oil and Gas. Until these reserves were identified, frankly Britain was just some irrelevant washed up, near bankrupt ex-colonial power, of no real interests to seekers of profit beyond the dreams of avarice. Probably just coincidence, but compare and contrast with the UK's path with that of Norway, where a national fund was created, investing in the country's infrastructure. That's very different to wasting a one-time largesse on unemployment benefits for three million plus idle workers, wouldn't you say? .
@andrewglasson4583
@andrewglasson4583 Күн бұрын
@@user-tt6il2up4o Yes but that was because neo liberal economics began with the Callaghan government and resulted in cuts to public services that led to the strikes which just continued with Thatcher.
@politics392
@politics392 2 күн бұрын
Get the tories out
@alanblissett9834
@alanblissett9834 22 сағат бұрын
Get labour and the Torys out look look wat a hundred years of them being in control has done they should be ashamed
@SwedishEmpire1700
@SwedishEmpire1700 Сағат бұрын
Both Tories and Labour are just leftists with different suits on, what you guys need now is Oswald Mosley
@bilbobaggins5752
@bilbobaggins5752 2 күн бұрын
I just want to listen to that old socialist for an hour
@Bobmudu35UK
@Bobmudu35UK Күн бұрын
The one with a soft spot for dictatorships?
@SwedishEmpire1700
@SwedishEmpire1700 Сағат бұрын
@@Bobmudu35UK Communists always love Dear Leader
@pieinher67
@pieinher67 2 күн бұрын
A more eloquent person than me could argue that Blair never actually left politics or formally relinquished power.
@philiplevins6702
@philiplevins6702 2 күн бұрын
indeed...excellent point
@marlonblade007
@marlonblade007 2 күн бұрын
Interesting...
@therealrobertbirchall
@therealrobertbirchall 2 күн бұрын
Thatcher is not really dead, Bliar absorbed her soul in a satanic ritual.
@somenamethatdoesntmatter
@somenamethatdoesntmatter 2 күн бұрын
Mind blown.
@tr3vk4m
@tr3vk4m 2 күн бұрын
Then they might actually make some kind of point instead of some vague confirmation-bias-fishing statement
@TheMdog8
@TheMdog8 2 күн бұрын
Those two young lads.... fucking hell man
@scheikundeiscool4086
@scheikundeiscool4086 2 күн бұрын
It is the curse of the youth to see the truth of the older generation and then make the same mistake again. He is absolutly right in that the rich are running the country for their own benefit. He is just absolutly in the wrong about the part that reform would not just be the same thing but worse.
@Shrike-Valeo
@Shrike-Valeo 2 күн бұрын
I thought we were further away from the States where black people vote for trump. Damn :( Reform are targeting tiktok and getting something... maybe forward planning for a PR situation..
@kravan5063
@kravan5063 2 күн бұрын
What exactly is wrong with their position?
@JackVezz
@JackVezz Күн бұрын
Asks the man with a Celtic cross in his profile photo..
@kravan5063
@kravan5063 Күн бұрын
@@JackVezz Celtic cross??? my picture is the flag of a fictional empire for a scifi book series im working on. it's not the celtic cross at all. You should probably stop assuming things and being ignorant.
@alexpetrie2327
@alexpetrie2327 Күн бұрын
I know I'm a soft-handed middle-class ponce but I genuinely find it baffling how many people have bought the lie that we're in the sh*t because of immigrants. It's the oldest trick in the book!
@MrSebastianBlake
@MrSebastianBlake 38 минут бұрын
Alex you told no lies. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@douglaspouch5313
@douglaspouch5313 2 күн бұрын
If the richest 100 people in the UK have trebled their wealth in the last 20 years to over half a trillion pounds, then you could argue that the system is working exactly the way it's supposed to.
@BusstterNutt
@BusstterNutt 2 күн бұрын
Why is white collar crime so under reported........?
@julianl6369
@julianl6369 2 күн бұрын
Never underestimate the gullibility of the average Tory voter 😢
@jake751
@jake751 2 күн бұрын
Reform ones are worse.
@ninjafotos
@ninjafotos 2 күн бұрын
Or TikTok user
@oldishandwoke-ish1181
@oldishandwoke-ish1181 2 күн бұрын
They SO want to be members of the rich and posh set - to the manor born - and they never will be!! Please Boris, make it come true!
@richardmays4584
@richardmays4584 2 күн бұрын
Did you know the word "Gullible" has been removed from the dictionary
@mcooley88
@mcooley88 2 күн бұрын
As thick as mince
@cliffhughes6010
@cliffhughes6010 2 күн бұрын
I was a farm worker in Sussex and was amazed how Conservative and Royalist farmers and country people are.
@annemoncrieff3875
@annemoncrieff3875 Күн бұрын
U just have to look at Scottish electoral map and u will see all farming areas in Scotland r tory. Even in Scottish 2021 election, after brexit realities were exposed and how damaging it was going to be for farmers, they still voted tory. Unbelievable. Chichester will nit be messed up cos it probs has a tory council so will be assured of plenty financing. Why do pple not think things thru.
@cliffhughes6010
@cliffhughes6010 21 сағат бұрын
@@annemoncrieff3875 So many farm workers look up to and nod the head to fox-hunting, baronial types with posh accents. It makes me feel sick.
@sugarush1476
@sugarush1476 19 сағат бұрын
Really? I have always thought of farmers as prime Tory voters. Being rural and often fairly well off.
@HkFinn83
@HkFinn83 17 сағат бұрын
@@sugarush1476not just the well off. The rural poor in these areas are Tory. You’d be amazed at how deferential they are.
@sugarush1476
@sugarush1476 16 сағат бұрын
@@HkFinn83 I can imagine, same everywhere tbh. The more inner city and exposed to diversity and change you go, the more progressive you get. In densely populated areas, you're exposed to different ideas and you have to co-operate more. The more isolated you are, the more conservative and stuck in their ways people become.
@jcanyiam8309
@jcanyiam8309 2 күн бұрын
14 years of Tory Government has taken HOPE & HONESTY out of the British people. Very very sad!!!
@user-tt6il2up4o
@user-tt6il2up4o 2 күн бұрын
It’s 30 years of dishonest self serving politicians from all parties.
@rosemorgan7503
@rosemorgan7503 2 күн бұрын
More like 50 years of Tory leaders from both sides of the house
@ASBO_LUTELY
@ASBO_LUTELY Күн бұрын
Vote 3rd Party, break up the duopoly!
@mobsiesixsixsix9785
@mobsiesixsixsix9785 2 күн бұрын
The women with the pink jacket is out of her mind.
@stevied667iswin
@stevied667iswin 2 күн бұрын
Came here to make this exact comment.
@jamesculverhouse4657
@jamesculverhouse4657 2 күн бұрын
I disagree... id say the jackets more red than pink
@sophieewohaa
@sophieewohaa 2 күн бұрын
The Tories heard the press were in town so got a couple more of their councillors on the job.
@richardjohnson713
@richardjohnson713 2 күн бұрын
Yes she is Mad
@mobsiesixsixsix9785
@mobsiesixsixsix9785 2 күн бұрын
@@sophieewohaa She certainly sounds like she's campaiging.
@JasonAtlas
@JasonAtlas 2 күн бұрын
This is what happens when you cripple the local councils. The government entity that's most visible looks useless and ineffective.
@therealrobertbirchall
@therealrobertbirchall 2 күн бұрын
So the tories give the whole town away to their mates as an enterprise zone.
@mikecook1537
@mikecook1537 2 күн бұрын
What's wrong with the Tories? Or do lefties just hate Tories in general
@JasonAtlas
@JasonAtlas 2 күн бұрын
@@mikecook1537 I was born after they went from conservative to neo conservative with Margaret thatcher so maybe they were good at some point but everytime they get in they decimate public services.
@kingkonut
@kingkonut 2 күн бұрын
@@mikecook1537 yes
@mikecook1537
@mikecook1537 2 күн бұрын
@@kingkonut oh no balance?
@staggabob
@staggabob Күн бұрын
I wasn't aware of the Chichester Harbour pollution issue but just looked into it and saw this: "Data from Southern Water’s Beachbuoy system, which shows real-time sewage discharges from storm overflows, reveals the storm outflow at Thornham in Chichester has been releasing sewage for 710 hours and five minutes between 24 October and 23 November." In other words that outlet was only NOT releasing raw sewage into the water for less than one day that month. And it's "legal"
@pms9838
@pms9838 Күн бұрын
The lad wanting reform, to benefit normal people really needs to read their manifesto. It will benefit the richest even more blatantly than the Tories
@patcampton7163
@patcampton7163 2 күн бұрын
The failing education system is quite obvious as well. What a sad state..
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 2 күн бұрын
yeah left leaning government schools why private better
@RealDareel
@RealDareel 2 күн бұрын
Our young people are far less right leaning than other countries in Europe
@democraticman3602
@democraticman3602 2 күн бұрын
Yes, it's the conservative education we're teaching.
@harveybrown37
@harveybrown37 2 күн бұрын
The Tories have slashed money from Education in real terms and Gove was more interested in children learning about long since dead Kings than Politics.
@brandon_youtube
@brandon_youtube Күн бұрын
Failing education is ground zero. UK talks of productivity but doesn't invest in people to create an educated productive nation. That's really stupid.
@TheMdog8
@TheMdog8 2 күн бұрын
"I think they were marvelous" - live in a bubble much?
@rothwellaudio
@rothwellaudio 2 күн бұрын
It could be argued that the Novara Media audience is another bubble.
@jackjuggernaut
@jackjuggernaut 2 күн бұрын
The UK isn’t a democracy. So that’s not a shock
@andrina118
@andrina118 2 күн бұрын
We need proportional representation
@john1703
@john1703 2 күн бұрын
@@andrina118 That seems to work in the Netherlands, but not in Italy. It would require a hung Parliament, which is unlikely. Nick Clegg messed up his chance big time in 2010.
@richieclean
@richieclean 2 күн бұрын
If it's not a democracy then what is it?
@jablot5054
@jablot5054 2 күн бұрын
​@@richieclean a monopoly.
@Steven-vo4ee
@Steven-vo4ee 2 күн бұрын
@@jablot5054 Evidently not.
@powderandpaint14
@powderandpaint14 2 күн бұрын
What is that guy in the hoodie talking about?! All the people that were interviewed were white....Chichester is so white 😂
@straitJacketFashion
@straitJacketFashion 2 күн бұрын
Foreigners can be white, Aussie Murdoch was a prime example.
@powderandpaint14
@powderandpaint14 2 күн бұрын
@@straitJacketFashion all of them had British accents though didn't they....
@harveybrown37
@harveybrown37 2 күн бұрын
​@@powderandpaint14Murdoch has a strong Aussie twang.
@squibys2262
@squibys2262 Күн бұрын
I was thinking he's the foreigner in the sense he didn't 'fit' the rest of the Chichester locals. How has he ended up there? Seems like he feels shunned by his own hence his punching down the only way he knows how.
@coyi7454
@coyi7454 Күн бұрын
The country itself is changing, and rapidly. The native British are no longer the majority in London, Birmingham, Leicester etc. We have a right as the British people to want our country to stay the same. By 2060 we are projected to be a minority in our own country. Speaking more broadly, the European people don't have a voice in any of this. Why do you hate our people so much?
@adamtovey8721
@adamtovey8721 2 күн бұрын
The turkeys complaining that they voted for Christmas. It would be funny if it wasnt so tragic
@hsthatzo8063
@hsthatzo8063 8 сағат бұрын
Well it's either vote for christmas or thanksgiving, have fun, jury duty voters!
@avs4365
@avs4365 Күн бұрын
The overwhelming sense of loss of hope - dangerous times indeed.
@theshazbot93
@theshazbot93 2 күн бұрын
The statement, "this veneer of civility and democracy", hits embarrassingly hard. Love from across the pond.
@joaquimioakim229
@joaquimioakim229 Күн бұрын
I’ve always said it’s nothing more than a veneer, you seen what happens when we have riots or how people acted in supermarkets during the beginning of the first lockdown
@XavierJAlexander
@XavierJAlexander Күн бұрын
Those kids including the mixed race kid were genuinely scary, hopefully they grow out of it before they can vote.
@grassygnoll3345
@grassygnoll3345 54 минут бұрын
The young girl nailed it, TikTok, it's the covid online generation and some parties are ahead on it.
@intraum
@intraum 2 күн бұрын
older socialist fella with a packet of prawn cocktail crisps. now that is a man of great sense and tastes
@showme360
@showme360 2 сағат бұрын
Until his misses came along and nick the packet!! far more important than talking politics. lol
@scottstevens78
@scottstevens78 2 күн бұрын
I found the young lady talking about Tik Tok the most terrifying. The last guy is an absolute legend. He has really pondered his views. I could have a lovely blether with him.
@stu0508
@stu0508 2 күн бұрын
That women in the red coat i could not believe what i was hearing, Simply astonishing.
@kimlog7476
@kimlog7476 2 күн бұрын
This is happening here in Scandinavia, and I suspect, all over Europe.
@Ronnet
@Ronnet 2 күн бұрын
And it has been happening since the dawn of time. Its severity comes and goes. It was much worse in the 1930's.
@user-SubvurzIV
@user-SubvurzIV 2 күн бұрын
NATO strategy of tension, seems we repeat the same cycles over and over.
@patcampton7163
@patcampton7163 2 күн бұрын
Tories, marvellous. Dear oh dear..These people must be very cosseted. Bring Boris back ???? We are doomed.
@LaurusHG
@LaurusHG 2 күн бұрын
He's right though, if they brought Boris back they'd probably do a whole lot better. Like it or not, Boris is such a bombastic, eminently likeable public figure that he wins votes by being 'funny' or 'charming' regardless of what his actual views or record shows.
@Lee_303
@Lee_303 2 күн бұрын
​@@LaurusHG yes but he thinks he can make the deaths of people's relatives a circus act. It's all in the percentages. More people despise him than like him now. Some issues affect (ed) us all & he took the piss.
@ChrispyNut
@ChrispyNut 2 күн бұрын
You lost an L and gained an s in there 😉 closeted.
@user4j0xo5-qi6qd
@user4j0xo5-qi6qd 2 күн бұрын
Mr and Mrs Bucket in ' Keeping up Appearances ' The UK is full of such ppl, they'll keep voting Tory because it would be below them to do otherwise.
@ChrispyNut
@ChrispyNut 2 күн бұрын
@@user4j0xo5-qi6qd It's not Bucket, it's Bucket!!!
@mrcreosote3808
@mrcreosote3808 2 күн бұрын
I was completely baffled why teenagers were advocating reform, and then the word 'TikTok' and it all made sense.
@belbrighton6479
@belbrighton6479 2 күн бұрын
My god Reform is all the young people can talk about. They are definitely paying young people to chat to other young people on line to sway their votes. It is really scary stuff.
@Skygrey2943
@Skygrey2943 2 күн бұрын
I think the radical right have dominated gaming spaces for a long time now. Also, Farage and to the lesser extent, the Tories have understood that many see 'working class' as a cultural identity rather than a socio-economic class in relation to the means of production.
@c.j.griffin
@c.j.griffin 2 күн бұрын
I'm saying this as an elder Gen Z -- almost every single TikTok relating to the General Election is flooded with Reform UK bots in the comments, advocating for the party.
@joh22293
@joh22293 2 күн бұрын
@@c.j.griffin And on YT in places like Sky News.
@sophieewohaa
@sophieewohaa 2 күн бұрын
The left need to stop being so fucking useless at social media.
@severian1916
@severian1916 2 күн бұрын
I do like your interview style Aaron you are such a polite chap very respectful and gentile. What a gentleman. Nice job
@bookie5667
@bookie5667 2 күн бұрын
Nigel Farage was a commodities trader in the City of London. Richard Tice was CEO of the real estate group CLS Holdings and CEO of the property asset management group Quidnet Capital LLP. Both were privately educated. Both are former Conservatives. Both are former members of the European Parliament. Both are millionaires. Why do some people interviewed consider them "working class"? Is our education system really that bad?
@tomricketts7821
@tomricketts7821 2 күн бұрын
Yes
@howardrisby9621
@howardrisby9621 2 күн бұрын
More likely the deficiency lies in failure to adapt to the instantaneous communication of the internet (it's only been a thing for 40 years after all), let alone get to grips with 'social media'. That needs to change for all sorts of reasons ... and fast.
@andrewrushent2737
@andrewrushent2737 2 күн бұрын
It's the media, largely.
@allenmontrasio8962
@allenmontrasio8962 2 күн бұрын
In a word? Yes.
@yn7751
@yn7751 Күн бұрын
Neither went to Oxbridge which is the only relevant thing. Tice went to some no-name cheap private school, worked in his family's firm and then started his own. Farage went to a mid tier private school, didnt even go to university. and went straight into employment. Commodities traders are dime a dozen, if you think its worth bringing up then you don't know anything about it lmao A world apart from the Tory and Labour front bench.....
@susanmitchell5447
@susanmitchell5447 2 күн бұрын
Oh dear me this is SO depressing........
@tomsemmens6275
@tomsemmens6275 2 күн бұрын
The likes of the BBC will never admit it but democracy is on notice in the UK.
@EddieN-x8o
@EddieN-x8o 2 күн бұрын
I think here in Bristol is obviously an interesting place because of the 'bleed' from traditional Labour voters towards the Greens. Interestingly, I had a canvasser for Labour at my door last Friday, and as I was laying out the reasons they have lost my vote her coordinator turned into my drive and ushered her away. I don't think there is an appetite to try and persuade us Novara viewers back towards the Labour Party!
@tomwilson5108
@tomwilson5108 2 күн бұрын
The mixed raced kid blaming immigrants should probably speak to his relatives on what they gave up to get to this country and why they did it.
@creator830
@creator830 2 күн бұрын
He has a point, however. If a country is open for all 8billion people on earth, then what use is politics? Why have some people gone so far left that they forgot to consider their own country entirely? Of course, I'm being rhetorical, before anyone takes '8billion' literally, but to think that he can't voice this particular opinion just because of his racial heritage is ridiculous.
@Steven-vo4ee
@Steven-vo4ee 2 күн бұрын
@@creator830 1. The country isn't open. 2 People used the same rhetoric about the Windrush generation.
@scheikundeiscool4086
@scheikundeiscool4086 2 күн бұрын
@@creator830 If you believe a lie already you will be the easiest target to trick.
@creator830
@creator830 2 күн бұрын
@@Steven-vo4ee Haha, I even pre-empted this by saying "I'm talking rhetorically", yet you chose to ignore that. Did you just react before reading the entire comment, or something? On Windrush, yes, you're correct, and I can reasonably assume from the look of the young lad, and given that he lives in Chichester, that it's likely his own grandparents were of that generation too. But to assume that all descendents of the Windrush generation should think and vote one particular way is a level of arrogance that borders on racism, as it still assumes that he is 'other' because of the colour of his skin, rather than seeing him first and foremost as a British citizen.
@creator830
@creator830 2 күн бұрын
@@scheikundeiscool4086 I'm guessing you can point me to a political party that doesn't lie? I can't say I've ever seen such a thing lol.
@DK-pn8bd
@DK-pn8bd 2 күн бұрын
The gentleman at 15:00 was a bit of a breath of fresh air.
@DavidSmith-gx5mu
@DavidSmith-gx5mu 2 күн бұрын
Those 2 old couples around the 4 minute mark are what's wrong with the country
@moif_velocita
@moif_velocita 2 күн бұрын
Is full of Brits
@progpuss
@progpuss 2 күн бұрын
OMG selfish people make me sick
@david-pb4bi
@david-pb4bi 2 күн бұрын
Vomit inducing, don’t wish anyone any harm but.
@martynscott1227
@martynscott1227 2 күн бұрын
Sheep following… snouts in the trough
@ferahsudenazulusoy4553
@ferahsudenazulusoy4553 2 күн бұрын
The older ones decide the youngers life. So sad
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan Күн бұрын
I think it’d be worth a day over in Belfast getting an idea of what way’s the wind blowing there, given its serious undercoverage by all media.
@Jay_Richardson
@Jay_Richardson 2 күн бұрын
They already gave up democracy voting for the Tories in the first place.
@mikecook1537
@mikecook1537 2 күн бұрын
How?
@mikecook1537
@mikecook1537 2 күн бұрын
We just don't want labour raping our savings for people on benefits
@Ayeright.
@Ayeright. 2 күн бұрын
@@mikecook1537 You mean Why?
@mikecook1537
@mikecook1537 2 күн бұрын
@@Ayeright. This channel seems seriously biased to the right. I've always voted Tory as labour will just keep raising taxes.
@mikecook1537
@mikecook1537 2 күн бұрын
& people become poorer
@krautsky
@krautsky 2 күн бұрын
The problem is to think that what is called "representative" democracy has anything to do with real democracy. Those with the money=power will be representet. The rest has to obey.
@TheShortStory
@TheShortStory 2 күн бұрын
It doesn’t have to be that way. Most representative democracies fare pretty well. But for historical and societal reasons the UK has got itself in a real, intractable mess
@dennismccarthy7032
@dennismccarthy7032 2 күн бұрын
Make lobbying illegal
@yamadakenji4143
@yamadakenji4143 2 күн бұрын
"What are people from Chichester called?" "Old farts ..." Brilliant. A bit of biting humour is welcome in these bleak times
@nickmaria3188
@nickmaria3188 2 күн бұрын
Kids wanting to vote for reform after watching tik tok? Scary times!
@syleshwhycantileavethisbla802
@syleshwhycantileavethisbla802 2 күн бұрын
The real scary part is when you start to wonder how such an omnipresent social media campaign like that is funded.
@ColinMaxwell-oc1ok
@ColinMaxwell-oc1ok 2 күн бұрын
What's scary about that the fake news ie itv BBC have been feeding people lies for years your have to go elsewhere for the truth take your head out off your rear and wake up.....
@DameHoracia
@DameHoracia 2 күн бұрын
sheep. I really hope not.
@symmo1969
@symmo1969 2 күн бұрын
Kids aren't swayed simply by watching TikTok videos, they're swayed by commentary & arguments they're already predisposed to.
@OneEyedDronie
@OneEyedDronie 2 күн бұрын
Beat me to say Tic Tok before the girl even mentioned it..... ignorant young people swayed by people and not facts.. .very sad ..
@TheAdio26
@TheAdio26 2 күн бұрын
Well, that was both depressing and terrifying.
@Lily-cl6zk
@Lily-cl6zk 2 күн бұрын
i wonder what Reform is doing on tik tok, worth an analysis?
@kumstuke
@kumstuke Күн бұрын
It's quite clear they bought many bots to type their rubbish out in the comments all over social media
@beverlybrookes8247
@beverlybrookes8247 2 күн бұрын
Give me strength. Some of these people🫣🫣🫣🫣
@Ronnet
@Ronnet 2 күн бұрын
At the end of the day, you get what you vote for. It's the simplicity of some of these voters that allows parties to dumb down the agenda and get away with not following through on it either. It also allows a corporation like Reform UK to enter the race, pretend to be a party and get away with it. If the population was better educated then we'd have better parties and politicians as well.
@ajsctech8249
@ajsctech8249 2 күн бұрын
The answer is a PR voting system and a parliament that might be coalitions of 2 or 3 parties. That will give more people representation.
@joaquimioakim229
@joaquimioakim229 Күн бұрын
A referendum was given to change the voting system by Cameron, hardly anyone turned out to vote and those that did voted overwhelmingly for the status quo, did you go and vote ?
@vmoses1979
@vmoses1979 16 сағат бұрын
Absolutely. But the 2 party system will never relinquish power of first past the post.
@joaquimioakim229
@joaquimioakim229 16 сағат бұрын
@@vmoses1979 Never say never!
@simonc5624
@simonc5624 5 сағат бұрын
@@vmoses1979 Yip one of the best changes in NZ in my lifetime is the change to MMP proportional representation. And yes to get it over the line there had to be a well-organised apolitical campaign set up to push it because both our main parties opposed it. That's what's needed in the UK as well. You need the minor parties + NGOs to come together and campaign for it cos the other two won't.
@pollyannakarina
@pollyannakarina 2 күн бұрын
The old couple bringing up "problems" in the harbour, but still plan to vote Tory.
@BeccaAl
@BeccaAl 2 күн бұрын
8:28 This guy with his hands down his pants ranting about ‘immigrants’ his friend with a bumfluff beard. Immigrants aren’t the reason for these lads, they are.
@clairewilliams8225
@clairewilliams8225 2 күн бұрын
is it any wonder he requested to have his face blurred?
@BeccaAl
@BeccaAl 2 күн бұрын
@@clairewilliams8225because he knows what he’s saying isn’t right. Pathetic to see, just thoughtless, cruel lads, everything’s a ‘joke’.
@El-Burrito
@El-Burrito 2 күн бұрын
The guy on the bike seemed completely unserious, at least I hope so. Seemed like he thought Aaron would get the gist of what he was saying without barely saying anything.
@michaelburgess8415
@michaelburgess8415 2 күн бұрын
Wouldnt it be better if we understood their point of view and sought to reassimilate them into a productive community...dismissal and condescension will not make life better for anyone....except Farage and his cult
@Skygrey2943
@Skygrey2943 2 күн бұрын
​@BeccaAl I think it's gamer culture. In the past, the far right were always very adept at latching on to subcultures and music to spread their poison now its isolated young men in their bedroom playing COD or something.
@crayontom9687
@crayontom9687 2 күн бұрын
We don’t live in a democracy in anything other than name
@Steven-vo4ee
@Steven-vo4ee 2 күн бұрын
RU propaganda.
@IXXILordFibonacciIXXI
@IXXILordFibonacciIXXI 2 күн бұрын
​@@Steven-vo4eeKleptocracy. Corporatocracy. Technocracy. No Democracy. Sustainable Development 2030 is not a democracy.
@spugesdu
@spugesdu 2 күн бұрын
Be yourself and just type that in Russian.
@Steven-vo4ee
@Steven-vo4ee 2 күн бұрын
@@IXXILordFibonacciIXXI Ok Pootie-poot bot.
@ChrispyNut
@ChrispyNut 2 күн бұрын
Indeed. The people are seriously mislead about reality, our choices are predetermined but neither really matter, because whomever's elected is wide open for intimidation by everyone other than the people in their constituency.
@HkFinn83
@HkFinn83 17 сағат бұрын
As somebody who’s never been to Sussex and never likely will, this is fascinating.
@redlightspellsdanger7177
@redlightspellsdanger7177 4 сағат бұрын
You have to plan a trip now, add it to your bucket list! 🫠
@alexh9778
@alexh9778 2 күн бұрын
Come to Basingstoke. "Safe" Tory seat, but poor infrastructure, high population growth... more working class than Chichester. Could be interesting. Plus they elected the first WEP councillor!
@rich24h
@rich24h 2 күн бұрын
Funny how the man on the bike complaining about foreigners yet he’d have no problem becoming one himself, or bringing back the old empire.
@Levenstone132
@Levenstone132 2 күн бұрын
S'kier might be thinking twice about sixteen year olds voting. Yikes!
@taykitrleevitt4314
@taykitrleevitt4314 2 күн бұрын
Indoctrinated dead heads will always be a problem... regardless of age.
@AxGerm756
@AxGerm756 2 күн бұрын
And this is the best thing that can happen for the tories. FPTP working exactly as designed. To keep the voter away from voting and to keep the rich and influential in power forever. FPTP once again working exactly as designed.
@Wildgrowsthenature
@Wildgrowsthenature 2 күн бұрын
That poor man in the baseball cap… we need to free him!
@Spangletiger
@Spangletiger 2 күн бұрын
My god, there are a LOT of ignorant bigots there!
@kravan5063
@kravan5063 2 күн бұрын
Coming to the rash conclusion someone is a bigot based on a short, 2 minute interview online is quite literally an ignorant and bigoted thing to do.
@lythalls
@lythalls 2 күн бұрын
@@kravan5063why ? Most impressions of people are made in the first 7 seconds of meeting them so their comment stands .
@kravan5063
@kravan5063 2 күн бұрын
@@lythalls You are allowed to come to your initial impressions of someone, but to think your initial impressions of someone are actually sufficient to be able to come someone an ignorant bigot, is idiotic and ignorant and bigoted to do in of itself.
@coyi7454
@coyi7454 Күн бұрын
You all have been ignoring our concerns and labelling us these words for many, many years rather than actually addressing WHY people have these views and concerns. This silencing tactic could only work for so long. Perhaps you should listen rather than ignore someone for being a 'bigot'.
@lythalls
@lythalls Күн бұрын
@@kravan5063 First impressions are rarely wrong and if the first impressions is they’re a bigot then they’re a bigot .
@Cromwell648
@Cromwell648 2 күн бұрын
Apparently the people of Chichester live in a dream- world. One where Sunak,"is doing a good job". Sad 😢deluded people 😢.
@TruthSpeaker94
@TruthSpeaker94 19 сағат бұрын
Proud of my town’s young folk! 30 year old reform voter with Italian background in Chichester!
@kingneptune8937
@kingneptune8937 Күн бұрын
The senior guy 14 mins in is spot on.
@PeterKenyon-mx3zs
@PeterKenyon-mx3zs 2 күн бұрын
such a respectful & reflective vox pop - if the mainstream media were more interested in real people,rather than the "gotcha" moments they need for their ratings - we might have a chance of understanding why people are so obviously utterly disillusioned with democracy in its' present incarnation... great stuff Aaron!
@jammysmears4077
@jammysmears4077 2 күн бұрын
The racist black guy playing with himself. Amazing stuff.
@clairewilliams8225
@clairewilliams8225 2 күн бұрын
''I'm not like the others'' he thinks...tokens get spent.
@MrSketchydave69
@MrSketchydave69 2 күн бұрын
Like a turkey voting for christmas.....
@screeny_
@screeny_ 2 күн бұрын
nothing he said was racist,but carry on...shows more about u then him
@andrina118
@andrina118 2 күн бұрын
@@clairewilliams8225 "Tokens get spent" - fantastic turn of phrase man
@scottandcoke1342
@scottandcoke1342 2 күн бұрын
​@@screeny_Arguably not racist but inarguably ignorant
@francisstephens9828
@francisstephens9828 2 күн бұрын
That tory couple. They gave done a brilliant job. Over the last 14 years. Says it all really!!
@BusstterNutt
@BusstterNutt 2 күн бұрын
I've heard some right-wing think tankers refer to themselves as the "ruling classes" maybe conservative think this is true?
@rich24h
@rich24h 2 күн бұрын
The young kid mixed race thinking the Farage wants him in England.
@neilmccarty944
@neilmccarty944 2 күн бұрын
think he is more worried the seagulls are going to steal his goolies the way he is hanging onto them
@stevenhenry5267
@stevenhenry5267 2 күн бұрын
Beloq is a 🤡
@vietashroffoliver2521
@vietashroffoliver2521 40 минут бұрын
@@neilmccarty944😂😂😂
@robertlawrence5275
@robertlawrence5275 2 күн бұрын
That old couple..no hesitation in responding the tories have done a good job! 🤦🏼‍♂️ Truly baffling these people think the past 14 years has been a success!
@BusstterNutt
@BusstterNutt 2 күн бұрын
I've heard some right-wing think tankers refer to themselves as the "ruling classes" maybe conservative think this is true?
@neilburns5934
@neilburns5934 2 күн бұрын
If they have shares in energy and water they will think its a success for them.
@Aureas2
@Aureas2 2 күн бұрын
Agree with the man at the end. Even though he stole that lady’s bag of crisps.
@sarahjaneross2918
@sarahjaneross2918 2 күн бұрын
😅
@irreversiblyhuman
@irreversiblyhuman 2 күн бұрын
This interview format really suits Aaron. Enjoying hearing the locals. Even if a bit deranged sometimes, it's crucial to hear where we are at.
@colincampbell4261
@colincampbell4261 Күн бұрын
Reform plc - these young uns need some education. TicToc gen, Frightening!
@azy83
@azy83 2 күн бұрын
Come to Glasgow and find out how people really feel about Labour
@robertstraw9881
@robertstraw9881 2 күн бұрын
Try Sunderland. The first place to declare for Brexit. See how they’re feeling 8 years on.
@TwiztedEU
@TwiztedEU Күн бұрын
The socialist bloke fucking sums it up completely.
@brigittenowers
@brigittenowers Күн бұрын
Weston Super Mare ....According to a Government survey, North Somerset was the district with the third highest inequality in the UK last year, measured by the range between the most and least deprived areas. All of the pockets of deprivation can be found in South or Central ward in Weston-super-Mare, which includes the town centre as well as the Bournville and Oldmixon estates. The report also suggest parts of Weston were more deprived last year than they were in 2010, with Weston Central now sitting in the most deprived two per cent in the UK. The Alfred Street area is in the top one per cent of most deprived areas, the Grand Pier area in the top two per cent and the Ellenborough Park area is in the top seven per cent. The Stafford Road area of Weston is also in the top 10 per cent of most deprived areas nationally, while Clarence Park is in the top 15 per cent. Argyle Avenue and Byron Road in the former South Ward area are also in the top one per cent for deprivation. Text copied from the Weston Mercury newspaper.
@lanehewitt7685
@lanehewitt7685 2 күн бұрын
Come to Seaham. We had the first Labour PM, we were a cauldron of socialism and communism. Not far from Akehursts constituency. UKIP/Brexit/Reform have been targeting the apathy here and fomenting populism for years. I'll even make you a cuppa.
@rogston39
@rogston39 2 күн бұрын
"The infrastructure has gone completely".......yes, sums it up well. 12:39; he speaks for so many !
@philosopherlady434
@philosopherlady434 2 күн бұрын
And the tax dollars keep going to Israel and Ukraine
@radarlockeify
@radarlockeify 2 күн бұрын
Maybe letting 16 year olds the vote isn't a good idea... Well, at least not in Chi!
@allmodcons2274
@allmodcons2274 2 күн бұрын
Tories really have broken Britain 😢 Come to Newark-on-Trent...Jenricks haunting ground.
@davidscourfield1065
@davidscourfield1065 Күн бұрын
Rhondda Valley meant to be safe Labour seat, Winston Churchill should be hated in Tonypandy, a lot of posters of Reform, feel the working class feeling ignored
@hano-boy
@hano-boy 2 күн бұрын
i love when you go out on the streets like this .. great TV
@patcampton7163
@patcampton7163 2 күн бұрын
It's longer than 14 years. Started in 1979, with brief respite in 1997.
@AtheistEve
@AtheistEve 2 күн бұрын
Blair sold off much of the NHS and schools and took us into an illegal war. No respite.
@jake751
@jake751 2 күн бұрын
1997 when the war criminal destroyed uk.
@david-pb4bi
@david-pb4bi 2 күн бұрын
@@jake751Surprised you are not blaming Corbyn, you are scraping that far down the barrel.
@AtheistEve
@AtheistEve 2 күн бұрын
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@ay2deet578
@ay2deet578 2 күн бұрын
Say the line Aaron 'Beautiful Godalming'
@dennismccarthy7032
@dennismccarthy7032 2 күн бұрын
Is Aaron canvassing for the workers Party?
@stevejacobs9320
@stevejacobs9320 2 күн бұрын
Note the young man said none of the main parties have any interest in the working classes. That shows clearly how the Labour Party has abandoned the working classes!
@dennismccarthy7032
@dennismccarthy7032 2 күн бұрын
That why I'm giving the workers party a go this time❤
@dennismccarthy7032
@dennismccarthy7032 2 күн бұрын
Agreed, I'm voting Workers Party
@user-SubvurzIV
@user-SubvurzIV 2 күн бұрын
It has absolutely abandoned the working class. Compare how Mcdonnell went to Davos and berated the billionaires to their faces..to how Starmer fawns over them and has his weird off the record private time with Larry Fink. They're beholden to their corporate paymasters and will prioritise pushing their bottom line over campaign promises to the electorate.
@neilmccarty944
@neilmccarty944 2 күн бұрын
absolutely spot on. Labour dont think they need the working class to win and are offering us nothing. As a result that void is being filled by the far right with Farage telling people exactly what they want to hear because he knows he will never have to deliver it
@jackoh991
@jackoh991 Күн бұрын
Greens
@michelemartin7276
@michelemartin7276 Күн бұрын
How about Southport which was Liberal/ LibDem for years but became the only Tory seat in Merseyside in 2017. It’s just been gerrymandered to try & keep the Tories in. It’s a seaside town who’s economy is based on tourism, the elderly care sector & a large civil service centre Smedly Hydro that is currently threatened with closure. So having a local MP that votes for sewage dumping onto our beaches & backs the removal of the local stroke unit is not popular. It’s lost its courthouse, 3 libraries, half the hospital and the local police station is a shell with police cover operating from Bootle a 40 minute drive away. The town centre is full of closed shops including BHS & Debenhams. Young people don’t stay because there’s no future for them here.
@leedowner2249
@leedowner2249 2 күн бұрын
"Bourgeois democracy, although a great historical advance in comparison with medievalism, always remains, and under capitalism is bound to remain, restricted, truncated, false and hypocritical, a paradise for the rich and a snare and deception for the exploited, for the poor." - Vladimir Lenin Your choices are red capitalism or blue capitalism, either way if you're working class your standards will continue to fall because that's exactly how capitalism is supposed to work
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 2 күн бұрын
the government exploits you communist leaders are worse
@briandelaney9710
@briandelaney9710 2 күн бұрын
Well Lenin knew a bit about exploiting people. The Soviet record is there for all to see
@Bward888
@Bward888 2 күн бұрын
I fully agree, but for some reason, many on the left of things seem absolutely unable to let go of supporting mass immigration, despite it being a very obvious tool for capitalists to drive down labour costs and break the kind of natural racial and cultural solidarity that makes unionisation a risk. It's no coincidence that every gigantic capitalist entity also supports immigration and bourgeois progressive social causes.
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