As a nurse, I can only wholeheartedly agree with Mr Graeber's conclusions.
@ApertureScience274 жыл бұрын
I just want to say I like the interviewer, obviously well-read and asks the right questions.
@Welshhomie4 жыл бұрын
James butler is excellent and provides some of the most informative analysis on the British left in my view
@DeadWhiteButterflies5 жыл бұрын
Oh hells yeah. One my fave philosophical bigwigs in the house! Pretty much the reason I now follow Novara. Big love to Gaeber.
@liam3145 жыл бұрын
Graeber* 😉
@proteus43012 жыл бұрын
David was a great loss to humanity. Just re-reading through his books in the last few weeks reminds me what an intellectual giant he was. RIP.
@BabelSongs5 жыл бұрын
So true I did a job like that for 9 years
@amasulem5 жыл бұрын
As I now chip in as a patron I demand more of this....pretty please.
@ince55ant2 жыл бұрын
anyone else watch Severance? its a fantastic surrealist presentation of these ideas but also some of the motivations for participating in the system (as a form of escapism, a opportunity for sadistic dominance, reverance for a great leader...)
@wertzui9954 жыл бұрын
Such a great mind.. Rest in Power
@redcoltken4 жыл бұрын
RIP David
@kevinbarry45955 жыл бұрын
Very brief, but a fascinating conversation.
@tigerstyle45055 жыл бұрын
I spent most of my life getting money in the streets and when a PO would force me to get a "real job" (W-2 job) it was pretty much always in food service, fast food and steak houses. Now I'm all "reformed" and shit and my job has so many layers of bs work it ain't even funny. Really there are there labor workers and necessary office workers who coordinate with things outside of the site and visiters and all that. But we have 2 massive front offices that do VERY little and 5 or so bosses between the laborer/office worker and the site "director", none of whom know what they're doing most of the time or are necessary. All that's really required to run the building is the labor workers, half or less of the office workers, 2 HR workers and 1 ELECTED supervisor that comes from the rank and file. We organize ourselves better than they ever could and most of the people there are redundant af. We could more than half the workforce, double the pay and come out more efficient and at a lower overhead. It's insanity. I love that the best critiques I've ever heard about our ideas are "you can't defend/sustain it" and "it's too much democracy". Defense is no longer really an argument as theory has evolved since the days that we saw that play out and has been accounted for (not to mention that even short lived communism is more than authoritarians have achieved, I don't want to sustain just anything for the sake of being sustainable) and I'll take autonomy over any alternative one may put forward any day of the week. So neither are really arguments and say a hell of a lot more about the person doing the critique than the proponent of freedom lol Ignorant or dishonest and lazy.
@legalfictionnaturalfact39694 жыл бұрын
Upper and middle management could all be cut and every business would be better.
@mattylamb91943 жыл бұрын
@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 - upper management is required. Middle management could be got rid of, more often than not
@mattylamb91943 жыл бұрын
Actually, it's the same with the middle-class. Although the general narrative is that upper class and working class are normally opposed to each other, in some ways they are more in tune with each other. It's the middle class that often is out of kilt
@snakeslizards18844 жыл бұрын
Rest in power 💔
@iananderson-ley18474 жыл бұрын
Rest in power David
@shoada15 жыл бұрын
Totally true... I used to call them 'Gate - Keeping' jobs... 'Bull Shit Jobs' so much more apt
@ShadaOfAllThings5 жыл бұрын
People keep talking about working within the system, but when will they realize that the system is literally the problem and needs to be removed?
@cameloty5 жыл бұрын
Concur.....www.wsws.org
@vampireducks16225 жыл бұрын
@Shada. Yep, the system needs to be removed. But how? Graeber was saying that if we want results, and not just a credo, then it makes sense to have people against the system both outside it and within it - or, as he put it, in the context of Britain, *both* the radical "extra-parliamentary" *and* "parliamentary left", working independently but also co-operating... Hope that's clear.
@DDshoeshowz015 жыл бұрын
I do believe people are waking up to that fact.
@legalfictionnaturalfact39694 жыл бұрын
Vampire ducks, what do you mean how? Stop participating in any way you can. Be strategically violent. Overthrow.
@sengs.48382 ай бұрын
Grabber is now well famous with his essay but he is a great economist
@osianmuhammad5 жыл бұрын
12 mins in it's rojova theyr're talking about yeah? he sort of mumbles it (as if it was pre-refferenced) ?
@elweedo20035 жыл бұрын
Big love for Graber and Butler
@xavierivarnateson5325 жыл бұрын
David Graeber would totally wreck Jordan Peterson in a debate.
@minivergur5 жыл бұрын
David Graeber would MANIFEST the concept of REASON and take Jordan Peterson to the SHADOW REALM and CHOP his metaphysical substrate of being with a MACHETE of LOGIC
@davidgraeber50465 жыл бұрын
I feel that way
@buze15 жыл бұрын
can someone source that 1992-2001 bureaucrats in russia stat? cant find anything on it!
@lukaku29544 жыл бұрын
Where has Names Butler gone tho, haven't seen or heard him in a while
@mike-wi8wm5 жыл бұрын
What place is he talking about that isn't a state?
@QuarrelsomeLocalOaf5 жыл бұрын
Rojava
@kristiandevries13935 жыл бұрын
"A really strange change in the British left...we are from movements that have been historically skeptical about institutional politics, and of parties generally, and are...owning up to the fact that maybe we were a little too broad or categorical". No, that is just you and the rest of Novara media...
@kristiandevries13935 жыл бұрын
@@patrickholt2270 I am an Anarchist. I am opposed to participating in electoral politics or hierarchical parties. My criticism of Novara is that they are effectively a social democratic media company which label themselves as communist revolutionaries when they are supporting modern day capitalism by advocating participation in the state as well as news coverage primarily about electoral politics. I still enjoy watching Novara as it is one of the best mainstream media companies, the lockdown podcast is great; but it is not revolutionary, communist or anti-state in any way. They can't then turn around and say that because they advocate party politics, keynesian economics, centralization and nationalization the British left has given up on abolishing capitalism, the state and hierarchy.
@anantsharma79553 жыл бұрын
I liked the video but the title is irrelavant to what was discussed.
@segasys13393 жыл бұрын
"Alienation is seperation from the product of your work but here there is no product." This sounds like the punchline of a joke but he meant it completely unironically lollll.
@celestialteapot33105 жыл бұрын
How do l get one of these jobs?
@dekinbg10275 жыл бұрын
I was working at state company(Serbia) as computer engineer, 1 hour/day. Believe me, it's terrible.
@ilyasmoulayramdanemoulat16243 жыл бұрын
Im anarchist individualist at least I say it to anybody
@eugene55093 жыл бұрын
Who's going to pick the potatoes? Any takers?
@oscarvonbismarsh35544 жыл бұрын
"the bullshit-isation of real work" is going to be my twitter bio now
@outsideleftgal89915 жыл бұрын
💗..Up the careworkers!!! PS James, after the revolution middle class Mr right-ons will have to do lots of care work - that they secretly considered beneath them. Care work isn't working class women's work, it's everybody's..Or they can hand-make bricks for aesthetically pleasing, high quality pre-60s style social housing* in the gulag 😈 *#Nothings2Gd4TheWorkingClass
@legalfictionnaturalfact39694 жыл бұрын
Yes. In patriarchal society, so-called women's work is devalued, regardless of what tasks it includes. It is devalued specifically because of its association with women.
@mattylamb91943 жыл бұрын
Well, caring work and building work certainly are non bullshit jobs. They both really matter
@kyivstuff4 жыл бұрын
@daylightintheswamp93153 жыл бұрын
Seems so blatantly obvious the hypocrisy. Wtf are these guys going?!?
@AI-HallucinationАй бұрын
The only good interview this biased channel has ever done
@erheetrherh26595 жыл бұрын
David doesn't look well :(
@davidgraeber50465 жыл бұрын
no I was okay just overworked and hadn't slept as much as I should
@gewizz25 жыл бұрын
james butler talks camp
@flower-ld5id Жыл бұрын
omg
@gewizz2 Жыл бұрын
@@flower-ld5id r u gay too?
@flower-ld5id Жыл бұрын
@@gewizz2 wouldn't you like to know
@SR-fw4yy4 жыл бұрын
4:56 bullshitization
@AudioPervert110 ай бұрын
Graeber wrote some great books and essays .. Too bad he just passed away so suddenly