Yes , Wilkin made these same points. I was thinking of Wilkin the entire time this guy was teaching this

I don't actually seeing it as a loss of salvation, but a proving you never had it. But it definitely makes you feel uneasy about your place in Christ. I don't think John intended to do that actually. In fact out of all the Apostles, John was my favorite as his simple Gospel message was "simple".

I’ve had ideas around this. I need to actually do something about it though. Thanks for your feedback!

@@bma So what it means is that if a believer does anything at all, in the world, Like if he is on a bowling league , or playing any sports, That is called a sin . If he or she has anything at all to do with the worldly desires They are sinning and will go to hell? Because some teaches that we are not of the world nor the things of this world , Even though we are in the world,

Thanks! Fixed!

Amen Gizmo so true

Well said! That's the interpretation I'm defending these days. 🙂

No way! So you unwittingly admit John 15:1 through 6 teachers loss of salvation. Instead of fighting the futile battle against John 15 clear teaching, you just relegated to the past and not applicable to today. That is weak and wicked Those who will not consent to the words of the Lord Jesus christ, are proud and know nothing according to Paul and first Timothy chapter 6. Believe the words of the Lord Jesus Christ!

What’s your point?

the sense of impossible relates to "must not", or imperatively impossible, rather than our modern concept of possibility. @@bradleymcdonald6273

Exactly. Matthew 1:21, Romans 6 & Jesus's words in John 8:34-36 could not be any clearer. Even the NAME "Jesus" means "savior", "loosener", "rescuer", "deliverer". From what? From SIN! Hence Romans 6. It's silly that people are so influenced by Roman Catholicism that they think that being saved means being saved from Hell and it's all about our death and what happens after we die 🤦🏻‍♀️. It's first and foremost about our life NOW and us being the children of God (John 1:12-13) NOW and showing Christ to the world NOW (2 Corinthians 13:5, John 14:16-17, Galatians 5:22-23...) i.e being CHRISTians (LITTLE CHRISTS).

@@leenieledejo6849 - When this truth was revealed to me, I was floored by it. I had converted from Catholicism to Christianity and I went to the church of Christ. But, surprisingly, church of Christ doctrine does not teach salvation FROM sin, rather salvation IN sin. EVERY prayer includes "Forgive me of my sins". It's very Old Testament praying. Jesus taught us to pray "forgive us as we forgive those who trespass against us" but to constantly be eating dust in front of the King is just too much to take. I am not a sinner. I am saved from my sins. The only time Paul ever called himself a sinner was in reference to what he was before Jesus saved him. 1 Tim. 1:15 - This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. If you're constantly sinning all the time then in what sense are you saved from those things? Romans 6 talks about being made free from sin and free from the Law of sin (Mt. Sinai). Catholicism keeps you in the cycle of sin in order to keep you bound to the clergy, through which you receive absolution. This insertion of clergy between God and man is a throwback to Old Covenant religion. It keeps the clergy in tall cotton while the laity is kept destitute. Freedom from the sin that used to destroy us should be touted as one of the selling points of the gospel - because it is indeed good news. But no Evangelical preacher worth his paycheck would ever tout that as a benefit of knowing Christ.

@@GizmoFromPizmo Amen. I was saved out of the bondage and lies of Romanism too. Praise God! (And yep, many so-called "Christians" are not so by definition - John 1:12-13 - and are actually church-ians who are effectively under the Old Covenant and live, speak and act - and pray! - like people under the Old Covenant).

did you not watch the video?

@@teravega yes, and I made my comment (based on what the passage actually teaches) because he is complicating something that isn't complicated. All anyone needs to know about this passage is it has absolutely *nothing* to do with the mortal man which was born of Adam, and has *everything* to do with the spirit which is "born of the Spirit" (John 3:6). The flesh (mortal man) is born of the flesh, and the spirit is born of the Spirit. Is John speaking of that which is born of the flesh, or of the Spirit in 1 John 3:9? The spirit "born of God" is made perfect in Christ, and cannot sin, because "in Him is no sin". Again I ask, is it the flesh, or the spirit being identified in verse 9? Whosoever is *born of God* doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 1 John 3:9 Which does *Jesus* say is born of God? Flesh, or spirit? That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. John 3:6 Our spirit in Christ "cannot sin" because we are in Him, and He in us. This is how God "justifies the ungodly" in our flesh (Romans 4:4-5) I in them, and thou in me, that they may be *made perfect* in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. John 17:23 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. John 14:20

I actually noticed that as well. The KJV is the only one that did not ADD continue sinning or habitual sin like the other versions. If we are to believe that we have inherited Jesus' righteousness, than it would actually make sense it would say we CANNOT SIN, not even ONE SIN. Because that would sully a perfect righteous record that MUST remain spotless for our entrance into the Kingdom of Heaven. We ONLY get into Heaven because Jesus took our sin record, and replaced it with ours. So no matter how much sin we do after we accept Jesus (whether willful sin or not) it cannot be held to our record. It does say we are chastised by God as children, but it never specifies what that is. Some are tormented spiritual, as we feel really bad. Others are calmly reminded of what price was paid and God's wishes.

Nice.

@filip szalbot Truly the first person to speak sounds right until the cross examination starts. I'm thinking the advocate facilitates the metamorphosis from the old sinful nature to the new incorruptible born from above nature. It's a process rather than an on off switch to get to a complete change of mind to then know the will of God, what is pleasing to him and is perfect.

@@hut8_newzealand361 interesting take.

@filip szalbot We need an advocate because we still possess the old nature! And, because we have an enemy who stands before God pointing out everything we do wrong. Revelation 12:10 "And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night." Romans 8:34 "Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us."

@@hut8_newzealand361 John 5:24 - KJV 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but →→is passed from death unto life.←← That doesn't sound like a process to me. It is a one-time event. Since I live in Ecuador, I use the Reina Valera 1960 translation, and the Spanish translation is even clearer: Juan 5:24 De cierto, de cierto os digo: El que oye mi palabra, y cree al que me envió, tiene vida eterna; y no vendrá a condenación, mas →→ha pasado←← de muerte a vida. The verb tense is clearly completed action, something that has already taken place.

I think it is simple, if you commit sin, you are a sinner. I still need Christ for this exact reason.

@@bma Amen.

Isn’t it possible the new creation in Christ does not sin and always desires what is right but the flesh, body of death, frequently falls to temptation so we sin in the flesh and need Christ. To be absent from the body, and sin, is to be present with the Lord.

Do you mean to say that an unbeliever does not have a choice when they sin?

​@@Forgivenmuchlovesmuch , a non-Christian will not care to be unshackled from sin until they take a step toward the Lord. Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. I Peter 4:18-19 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? 19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.

Have u stopped sinning 100% ? Doubt it

@NYCNY92 If I told you I didn't sin, you wouldn't believe me anyway. Let me ask you a question. Do you know right from wrong? This is sin. James 4:17 King James Version 17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin. For example, I broke my wife's vase, I can either lie to her and tell her it was my son or I can tell her the truth. To lie is to suppress the truth so that the truth does not come to light. Yet if I tell the truth, it is because I am not ashamed of the truth coming to light. How do you prevent having to lie? You do not walk in a way that you would have to lie. You believe that you can not stop sinning, two things can be the cause, either you remain in your flesh and walk after the things of the flesh or you have come to believe the fallen church today that your present and future sins are forgiven which allows you to be okay to continue in sin. NO WHERE IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE TELLS YOU THAT YOU CAN NOT STOP SINNING! Yet there is a place that says if you say you have no sin, you are a liar, but I am not saying I don't have sin because I know that sin is in my flesh(Romams 7:18, and 1 John 1:8), but I believe God and I hold every thought that comes in captive to the obedience to Christ. 2 Corinthians 10:5 If I come to any sinful thought(s), I rebuke all of them and do what is right. If the lust of my eyes catches the glimpse of a woman's breasts or butt, rather than lusting over her, I immediately rebuke sin and turn away. That's sin in my flesh still, but myself holding captive these thoughts to obeying righteousness.

in 1 John 2:1 it is implied that you repent because we have an advocate

Your flesh sins but not your spirit

@@gregory7320 but your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit and if the temple gets tainted with sin a person has to repent to clean it. Just as in the OT Israel had to repent after they defiled the temple.

@@michaelg4919 I know God doesn't want us to keep living in ongoing willful sin but Jesus already paid for them. I don't believe in works to be saved it is by grace through faith are we saved.

@@gregory7320 repentance is not a work it means to turn form sin towards Jesus. So you just ask for forgiveness and you will be forgiven. Jesus' Grace is huge that he will forgive us every time we ask

I agree wholeheartedly! Romans 6:1-2 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Just because sin after salvation doesn't condemn us, doesn't mean it's irrelevant. Sin brings suffering, not only to the one who sins, but it always affects everyone around as well. Not to mention the bad testimony...

@@loistignor9819 Maybe you can help me and forgive me if this doesnt make sense, but i think you'll understand. my issue is how Christians define sin and transgression. To my eye Moses defined what the law was and sin is transgression of that law. (Broadly speaking) Here is the problem, Christians say the law was abolished. So if there is no law then there is no sin. But we see that there is a penalty for sin outside of Christ. So what law do we currently have?

@@MadebyKourmoulis James 4:17 "Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin." Romans 14:23b "For whatsoever is not of faith is sin." These two verses tell us that if we are not completely at peace about doing something, knowing God is happy with it; or if we NEGLECT to do something we know we ought to do--that is sin to us. I don't know about you, but those two verses tell me that I still sin WAY too much. That is why God does not expect His children to conform to a law. He doesn't want us concentrating on DOING, on our performance. He is much more interested in a RELATIONSHIP with us. He wants our obedience to flow from a heart of love for Him, not to check off boxes on a checklist. When it sinks in that Christ was made sin for us (2 Cor. 5:21) so that we would be made the righteousness of God (Think of it!!) in Him--it makes us so grateful that we just WANT to do what pleases Him. Which is what you were expressing in your original comment, if I'm not mistaken. But as for the fact that believers in Christ are not subject to the Law, there are many verses which teach this. Romans 4:5 "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness." Romans 6:14 "For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace." Romans 5:10 "For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by [[Whose???]] his life." [Not by our own continued obedience] Philippians 3:9 "And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:" One final verse: 1 John 2:1 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:"

@@loistignor9819 Romans 6:14-18 For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What then? Are we to sin(is sin here transgression of the law?)because we are not under law but under grace? By no means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were committed,and,having been set free from sin, have become slaves to righteousness. I suppose what I'm asking is, what does an obedient slave to righteousness obey? Their conscience? The law? Both? Parts of the law?

@@MadebyKourmoulis I believe this here is the key: 2 Corinthians 10:5 "Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;" If our thoughts and attitudes are pleasing to Christ, then our words and actions will be as well. Do you remember the book by Charles Sheldon, "In His Steps"? The main theme of the story was, "What would Jesus do?" I truly believe that is the "law" we are to follow, if you want to call it that. Paul said in Philippians 1, "For me to live is Christ." Jesus is our Savior. He is our Shepherd. He is our standard to follow. He is our Lover. He is our all in all!

“Lifestyle of sin” “living in sin” all made up terms by man to classify sin….we all are living in sin as long as we are on this earth ! The world is a sinful world

If the son of man sets you free…indeed you will be free…

That’s a sin

yeah right

@@GM15_Official the truth is not in him, he’s deceived. I can prove he sins..

Well there goes Romans 5:1...And so many other passages!

@@josephgarrett3075 Yes, you have to read the entire Bible and not just one letter or part.

No matter how many times fake christians like you get smacked down with truth, another one of you rears your ugly head out to twist the same scriptures over and over. You cherry pick scriptures all over the place and take them out of context to try to make it mean something that you want it to mean. You must like keeping real believers in bondage with your fearmongering. You have ZERO knowledge of the truth. "1 John 3:6 ESV “No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him.” So those who live in sin aren’t abiding in Christ, nor do they know Christ." ***[WRONG! ]*** I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing. (John 15:5) Many look at this verse and see “abiding = bearing much fruit.” They draw a terrible conclusion: “If I want to abide, I must produce fruit.” This is the opposite of what Jesus saying. Your job is to abide. That’s it. As you abide, the Vine himself will bear his fruit in your life. You don’t have to do a thing. Except abide. What does it mean to abide? To abide means to stay, continue, or dwell. Abide is related to abode, so to abide is to make Christ your abode, your home, your dwelling place. That’s what we did the moment we came to Christ: Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God. (1 John 4:15) “He abides with you and will be in you” (John 14:17). Union with the Lord is a permanent and inviolate relationship. What God has joined together, no one can separate. He will never leave or forsake. Contrary to what you have heard, God does not lop off unfruitful branches. When Jesus said “abide in my love” (John 15:9), he was saying “rest in my love for you.” To abide in Christ is to live with the complete dependence that a branch has for a vine. It’s realizing that apart from him we can do nothing. "To those who don’t know Christ; Matthew 7:23 ESV says: “And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’” So if we continue on sinning, after having come to a knowledge of the truth, we will not be justified on judgement day, unless we confess our sins and stop sinning." ***[WRONG!]*** I never knew you. Jesus is not speaking to Christians who have missed the mark; he is talking to self-righteous people he doesn’t know. The Good Shepherd knows his sheep (John 10:27); these aren’t his sheep. He does not say, “I used to know you,” but “I never knew you.” To be known by God is to trust in the love of God revealed to us through his Son. “If anyone loves God, he is known by him” (1 Cor. 8:3). We may not be 100 percent faithful but Jesus is. If you are his you can rest assured that he will never let you go (John 10:28-29). God does not break his promises and "unchild" his children. If you have been born again you can’t be unborn. What God has joined together, no man can separate. (b) Depart from me. The self-righteous cannot coexist with the Righteous One. (c) You who practice lawlessness. “You who habitually sin.” They are a lawless in the sense that they live contrary to God’s good will. In the new covenant, faith is described as a rest (Rom. 4:5, Heb. 4:3), while unbelief is described in terms of actions and verbs like practicing lawlessness. Unbelief is resisting the Holy Spirit and clinging to worthless idols (Acts 7:51, 14:15). Unbelief is rejecting Jesus (John 3:36) and denying the Lord (Jude 1:4). It’s thrusting away the word of God and judging yourself unworthy of life (Acts 13:46). It’s suppressing the truth (Rom. 1:18) and delighting in wickedness (2 Th. 2:12). It’s turning away (Heb. 12:25), going astray (2 Pet. 2:15), and trampling the Son of God underfoot (Heb. 10:29). "1 John 1:9 ESV says: “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” The first chapter of 1 John was not written to believers but to Gnostics who did not believe that Jesus came in the flesh, hence the uncharacteristic opening in the first epistle of John. There was no greeting to believers, unlike what we find in his second and third epistles. Instead, the apostle John opens up his first epistle with a direct address to the serious heresy of the Gnostics-“That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled” (1 John 1:1, emphasis mine). John was telling them that Jesus had indeed come in the flesh, as he and his fellow disciples had heard, seen, and touched Jesus. It is only in chapter 2 of John’s first epistle that you see the phrase “My little children” for the first time, intimating that from that chapter on, the apostle John was addressing believers. The Gnostics also believed that they had no sin. So the apostle John was telling them that if they would acknowledge and confess their sins, God would forgive them and cleanse them from all unrighteousness (see 1 John 1:8-9). The early Christians did not have the book of 1 John for some fifty years, so their getting “right with God” could not have been through the confession of sins. Apostle Paul, who wrote two-thirds of the epistles to the churches, never once taught on confession of sins. In fact, in his letter to the Corinthian Christians, many of whom were committing sins like visiting temple prostitutes, he didn’t tell them to go and confess their sins to get right with God. Rather he reminded them of who they were in Christ-“Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?” (1 Cor. 3:16 KJV) Our being “right with God” is not based on the imperfect confession of sins by imperfect man, but on the riches of God’s grace and the perfect sacrifice of His Son. Those who believe that 1 John 1:9 is telling believers to confess their sin every time they sin need to realize that every sin needs to be recognized and confessed (otherwise, based on that verse, one is still unrighteous). You cannot pick and choose what to confess or confess only the sins you remember. And it is not humanly possible to confess every sin in thought, word, and deed. The word “confess” in 1 John 1:9 is the Greek homologeo, which means “to say the same thing as” or “to agree with.”2 To confess our sins, therefore, is to say the same things about our sins as God does: that it is sin, and that our sins have been forgiven and washed away by the blood of our Lord Jesus Christ (see Rev. 1:5). When you have sinned and realize you have sinned, true confession is agreeing with God’s Word and expressing your gratefulness to Him for the reality of the believer's forgiveness in Christ. In the two instances where we see the word “sins” in 1 John 1:9, it is the Greek noun hamartia that is used. "Hamartia" (“a missing of the mark”) indicates “a principle or source of action, or an inward element producing acts . . . a governing principle or power.” In other words, it refers to the sin principle, or our sinful state on account of Adam’s sin. By using the noun form of this word, John was clearly not referring to our committing of individual acts of sin, or he would have used the verb form, hamartano. John was speaking of the need to acknowledge and confess to God that we are sinners because of Adam’s sin, as well as to receive the total forgiveness for all our sins through Jesus’ finished work. How often do we need to do this? Only once. That’s why 1 John 1:9 is primarily a salvation verse, one that encourages the sinner to acknowledge and confess his sinful state or “sinnerhood,” get born again by faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, and have his sinful state through Adam replaced with a new righteous state through Christ. The heretical Gnostic doctrine did not subscribe to a belief in man’s sinful state. John was addressing this heresy directly in the first chapter of 1 John and encouraging the Gnostics to confess their sinful state and receive the Lord’s complete forgiveness and total cleansing from all their unrighteousness through His finished work at the cross. Now, what does the apostle John say then, about our committing of sins after we’ve become believers? Just two verses later in the second chapter of 1 John, John answers this question as he begins his address to believers: “My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous” (1 John 2:1). This time, the words “sin” and “sins” are the Greek verb "hamartano". John is now referring to believers’ committing of sins-their sinful thoughts and deeds. What does John say regarding this? He reminds us that when we fail as believers, we have an Advocate with the Father-Jesus Christ. Stop spreading heresies or there will be "hell to pay" (pun intended)

@@christsavesreadromans1096 You can't take harder to read passages OVER simple to understand passages. That literally isn't how you do bible study AT ALL. You also completely took those passages out of context, BIG TIME. I studied those passages and they literally are ripped out of context.

@@TrustNJesusChrist There’s nothing about these verses which are “ripped out of context,” the clear and thorough teaching of the Bible is that one must repent of sin and amend their lives. This is necessary for salvation.

The doctrine that a person remain perpetually sinful, because sin is not transgression of the law but a stain and substance in the soul, this will always lead to inextricable contradictions to the rest of the theological web. Jesus said to them, "If you were blind, you would have no sin; but since you say, 'We see,' your sin remains. John 9:41. As for 1 John 3:9, you have quoted the accurate translation, which shouldn't lead to any confusion, however some cannot understand the sense of "cannot sin" (ού δύναται not able to), if that is the case, then understand that it only implies that a child of God, would never sin. It doesn't say absolute inability to sin. John is not warning against making a habit and practice of sin, as though occasional sinning is acceptable. See Matthew 5:29-30. John also clarified that not all sins are equally dangerous; there is sin leading to death, and there is sin not leading to death (1 John 5:16-17). So, there shouldn't be any confusion and contradiction. hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/a/63619/16757

@@OneStepToday So you can go weeks without committing a single sin? Is that what you are saying? Not a single sinful thought? Not a single moment of anger? Not a single moment of idolatry? What about Pride? You must have some sort of secret key that none of us have. If so, why haven’t you started a church yet and make REAL disciples (according to your theology)

@@roberttrevino62800 not just weeks, but whole life. My living in sin or in righteousness is not gonna affect your judgment. Repent.

@@OneStepToday “If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.” 1 John 1:8 Who is right? You , or God?

@@roberttrevino62800 It talks about hiding your sins, Cf Psalms 32:5. You are a typical protestant enemy to God following a lawless evil heresy turning grace into licentiousness.

Just curious, Do you still sin?

@@-Thelordismyshepherd- no. Because my new man is not my old man. My new man is hid in God. Can God sin? Plus, the TRUTH is in me. 2 Corinthians 5:17 (KJV) Therefore if any man [be] in Christ, [he is] a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. Colossians 3:3 (KJV) For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. 1 John 3:9 (KJV) Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

@@noneofyourbusiness9635 Does your flesh still sin?

​@@-Thelordismyshepherd-you have flesh and Spirit. Spirit cannot sin but your other members (flesh) still is a slave to the law. No human being stops sining even if they try their hardest. But the Spirit ( which will inherit Gods Kingdom ) can't sin.

@@dabrab6324 Your adding to the book. Do you still sin?

Thanks for your comments. Are you suggesting that we're saved by our obedience? If not, feel free to elaborate. :)

@@bma 1 Samuel 15:22 Obedience is EVERYTHING!!! Why do you follow ALMIGHTY GOD ELOHIM?! Because you obey HIM! o·bey /əˈbā/ verb comply with the command, direction, or request of (a person or a law); submit to the authority of. "I always obey my father"

Obedience works laws, yes Jesus always said one must do them in order to enter the kingdom😂