Absolutely true advocate , what kind of a democracy is this, Thanx advocate you have counselled me
@trza10011 ай бұрын
Very sober perspective from Adv Ntsebeza. We need to learn our history, If we don’t want to repeat it👍🏿
@kuhlejoja795411 ай бұрын
A seasoned jurist, thanks Adv Ntsebeza SC for this beautiful perspective!
@tebogov651711 ай бұрын
Fair assessment of the legacy of father of violent ethnic chauvinism
@charlottethokoa71111 ай бұрын
I feel much better now Xoli after hearing advocate Ntsebeza speak to you, from friday i banned myself from watching Tvafter hearing this holier than though personality that we were hearing since his passing, We go introduced to the inkabis during those times
@Mntungwa7711 ай бұрын
Sunday, 1st August 1994, Braamfontein railway station, a train heading from Johannesburg ‘Park Station’, headed towards Mohlakeng stopped to pick up people! Usually it would stop for about 3 minutes but this time around it stopped longer! We were all surprised, and as we look through the windows they rushed into our couch, bloodthirsty men armed to the teeth with traditional weapons! One yelled, ziphi izinja? (Where are the dogs??) I looked at my late aunt, baffled…‘Aunty, what dogs are they looking for, they look very angry, so whenever took their dogs better return them’, I said! ‘Shhhh, they will kill us!!!’, my aunt said!!! I had come face to face with the IFP hooligans, at the time the war was about the brandishing of ‘traditional weapons’, in my view they were looking for anything to cause anarchy! In the news later, there was talk of many injured and some killed people because they were determined to cause mayhem!!! They were holding the entire country hostage!!!
@phumlamazibuko300311 ай бұрын
Even Zulu ppl in KZN were killed so it wasn't about protecting Zulu nation but IFP, majority of Zulus murdered too. So, don't generalise Zulu nation rather say IFP.
@truth-Hurts37511 ай бұрын
True....
@Pholo5411 ай бұрын
What about the Zulu speaking in Thokoza. Adv spoke as a South African not as a tribalist 😢😢
@charlottethokoa71111 ай бұрын
Some of us are trying to forget the 1990 riots on the East Rand , people lost their lives who were not ANC Members , The .Pressidentis always blamed for Marikana deaths, but we must not say anything about him re the riots,We had to hide boy children in the ceilings , One woman went to the mental institution because her four dons were killed infront of her,He never agreed but he called us IMIGODOYI YASE KATLEHONG THAT TIME, when kids were killed like dogs
@siyandathabede438211 ай бұрын
Who were responsible for these killings and under whose orders
@truth-Hurts37511 ай бұрын
@@siyandathabede4382Under the orders of the Apartheid regime...but he never condemed it because he was up Botha and de Klerks asses !!!!
@charlottethokoa71111 ай бұрын
Katlehong , Vosloorus and Thokoza, Boipatong
@vusimzimela615411 ай бұрын
Mandela once said they have used all the aminations to destroy chief mangosuthu. Can we also look at this statement and analyze it
@sandilemntungwa153811 ай бұрын
True this so called analyst is bais
@hlenganihobyani486411 ай бұрын
Yes even though Mr.but Mr Buthelezi was the bad during late 1980's and early 1990's
@innocenthapazari869911 ай бұрын
I have always been dumbfounded by this concept of " Zulu or X nation" within a country. I thought a nation refers to all people of one country not some tribes. Im glad even some South Africans have same question. I have always wondered whether South African, in general, find the idea of Zulu Nation, Venda Nation, Ndebele Nation, etc, all in one country, normal?
@bonelabiyongo822811 ай бұрын
So proud of you Bra D my hommie.❤❤❤
@langalakheshongwe543311 ай бұрын
I love how suddenly all the ppl who died were killed by the IFP .. the ANC and UDF have become angels
@enmn600111 ай бұрын
yes good engels IFP ARE murderers..they've got blood in their hands
@sandilemntungwa153811 ай бұрын
So surprising
@truth-Hurts37511 ай бұрын
Not true...you are making this up !!!
@langashongwe453211 ай бұрын
@@truth-Hurts375 which part isn't true?
@nicholussibusisovilakazi95111 ай бұрын
It seems everyone has forgotten that the ANC was responsible for the 'necklacing' of people which was made popular by Winnie Mandela.
@lindiwemchunu236411 ай бұрын
As human beings we always have a choice to make for our survival or in order to preserve what we think its best for our legacy .The danger is what we choose can be good or have bad repercussions in our lives in some you even work with the worst enemy (apartheid) in this case .There are everyday jobs we presume are legal from which people are earning a living but are so detrimental towards other peoples lives but they cause pain and suffering to others and no one will ever be persecuted It all depends whom are you serving. Maybe if the Prince didn't choose to work with the enemy black person will be history by now we need to remember that the Zulu nation was the chosen one to preserve black heritage and that that may not perish because without culture one may be killed by other nations.His departure must be awakening to those left behind and find solutions May his soul rest in peace.
@samphora612611 ай бұрын
who was responsible for choosing Zulu tribe to be the preservers of black heritage?
@lindiwemchunu236411 ай бұрын
@@samphora6126 their history tells ,to answer the question it means I have to rewrite the formation of their Kingdom. and in order to understand this you have to be a gifted somebody to see and know extraordinary things otherwise it won't make any sense on an ordinary person.
@sandilemntungwa153811 ай бұрын
Nonsensical analysis
@mthethokhali181211 ай бұрын
Maybe if he was speaking in isiZulu,you would understand better. Listening English thinking in isiZulu is affecting you.
@sandilemntungwa153811 ай бұрын
@@mthethokhali1812 whatever english man..
@Pholo5411 ай бұрын
Controversial is still being polite. Gatsha was notorious, he was heartless, he was evil, he was a devil reincarnate. Why should we be polite in describing a killer?
@ayandantombela11 ай бұрын
This one will die of chest pains.
@ThobileMakinyane11 ай бұрын
All politicians have dirty hands in one way or another. he is no different to the rest. Be that said, past should be left to the past and live for today.
@davidmkefa418811 ай бұрын
I remember Black Sunday at White City, people suddenly slaughtered for no apparent reason
@emmanuelshangase679011 ай бұрын
I think this is no fair, why all these questions were never asked when he was alive.....I am surprised that advocate doesn't know why uMntwana was asked to remain in his position by the senior leaders of anc
@sikhumbuzolukashe443111 ай бұрын
I feel the same Mr Shangase. Without condoning what happened then, I mean the man is deceased. Why all this after his demise. What happened to forgiveness as they Adv Ntsebezas and ilk advocated at the time.
@@sengamemela3720 clearly Boss. They were scared of him. I mean every ANC politician is interviewed on this matter. And, I blame even the media houses. Why now? What about his family? What is The agenda for this nonsense.
@bhekayaka875311 ай бұрын
Bro lost me on Desmond Tutu. I mean Desmond played political games himself😂.
@thamsanqambatha926611 ай бұрын
This what a biase advocate. This guy just hate the Zulu kingdom and everything about it. I will remember Umtwana as a true political hero and a true servant of the Zulu nation. We are a kingdom and a very powerful one. Sizameni
@sengamemela372011 ай бұрын
He actually hates himself and has no self confidence and no sense of identity. They hate Zulu nation for loving themselves and loving who they are...Advocates with no value..
@madodayende260311 ай бұрын
Innocent people were killed at Shell house by the ANC , but it seems it was good on your Ntsebeza
@hlenganihobyani486411 ай бұрын
What were they doing at Shell house armed with pangas and knockberries ANC was defending its place and people
@siyandathabede438211 ай бұрын
@@hlenganihobyani4864 who gave the order for those at shell house to be killed, who was leader of the anc at the time.
@avuyanyangani46011 ай бұрын
@@siyandathabede4382What they were doing there because shellhouse is the ANC head quarter not IFP or the Government house?
@siyandathabede438211 ай бұрын
@@avuyanyangani460 one thing for sure is that they were not there to be slaughtered. 20 000 people died during the violence between the anc, Pac, IFP, the apartheid state etc. but no talks about shell house or other acts of violence perpetuated by other parties and it's leaders.
@madodayende260311 ай бұрын
@@hlenganihobyani4864 it was a peaceful march
@mydownloadsnkambule30911 ай бұрын
Advocate Ntsebenza as the Zulu people you can be jealous and say we are given prominence. Be my guest you will not not matter how you can try bring us down as the Zulu people we have a kingdom.
@langalakheshongwe543311 ай бұрын
He said we cat have a King... but said nothing bout the baThembu King
@sengamemela372011 ай бұрын
The.Zulu nation know their King and we value who we are..We do not need any validation from self-hating people whose value and existence is based on seeking white peoples validation...amambuka oqobo!
@thembanindlovu679811 ай бұрын
this old man is talking nonsense about the Kingdom its really embarrassing as a South African to hear such ignorance
@asandawotata504211 ай бұрын
But it's true
@enmn600111 ай бұрын
YOUR ZULU NATIONS WERE KILLING EACH OTHER
@thulanimajoka615311 ай бұрын
Dispute With Facts Don't Just Say Nonsense
@sengamemela372011 ай бұрын
@@thulanimajoka6153Facts: Mr Buthelezi was not perfect just like Mr Mandela and the racists this advocate defended in that TRC. But Prince Buthelezi has left Mshiyeni Hospital, Mangosuthu University of Technology , this is just one township in KZN...What has this advocate and his comrades done except going to codesa to sell our land only to be rewarded with McDonald's business, double story houses and fake useless degrees by the oppressor...He is talking non sense..
@lavasko.fashion.styles11 ай бұрын
Who asked mandela about zulu people who died in shell house anc offices. Dont be tribalist here if you think some death is more important den the ada udakiwe. Kwafa abantu yonke indawo asixolelane sedlule. Ntsebenza hates zulu people kanti i AK47 kwakungeyo decorator yini. Niyayazi necklace nina okwakubulawa ngayo abantu benkatha namazulu. Ive got ANC relatives who died and IFP relatives who died. Abo mkhize no jacob zuma abasabi kodwa bayahlonipha uma sekunje futhi asikho isidingo sokuvuselana amanxeba ngoba wonke umuntu unawo. Bakhona abamzondayo mandela njengoba bekhona abamzondayo uShenge nababathandayo ngpkunjalo. Wawuthuleleni kumama winnie mandela wawungasho ngani ezakhe ne trc yombhedo esedlulile emhlabeni. Bonke amaqhawe kwababathandayo. Makuliwa kuyafiwa nxa zonke
@nkabinde608111 ай бұрын
Why bebephethe izibhamu nama phanga?shell house bekuyi head office ye ANC Angithi?
@pulanala142111 ай бұрын
What were they doing at Shell house ?
@lavasko.fashion.styles11 ай бұрын
Why did they need to bring AK 47 to this country and train in the bushes why did they put tyres as neckless to our brothers. Why did they burn schools and prevented those who wanted to go to work to go. There is no angel here or devil. Why did marikana workers carry pangas and what they were doing in the kopi hill. Justifying murder doesnt change murder shell house massacre remains that as much as marikana massacre remains that. I dont want to dwell too much on kzn cos impi siyayazi and lodoti eniwukhulumayo ungaqali into eningasoze niyimele without buthelezi looting could have been worst because he is the one who reprimanded amabutho from supporting zuma as he is no more if zulus protect zuma this country will burn do mind your language and stop provoking war
@nomngcefe168811 ай бұрын
This just one jealous Xhosa guy. Try promote your own kingdom,
@asandawotata504211 ай бұрын
He is not even a Xhosa. He is talking a truth as it is
@shupingisaac864811 ай бұрын
@asandawotata5042 Exactly, people don't want the truth, that's who Buthelezi was
@sengamemela372011 ай бұрын
@@asandawotata5042he must tell us the real truth of how they compromised black people in that. TRC in order to get double story houses in Houghton..
@SandileNtombela11 ай бұрын
Don't spwak ill of the dead, that all i shall say.
@musawenkosiabrahamngubane917311 ай бұрын
Uuhm,mkhulu kungani engavulwanga amacala,so that you could submit that information and evidence if any,why engaboshwanga mkhulu?? Otherwise it's a propaganda.
@siyandathabede438211 ай бұрын
I'm not sure what the advo is talking about when he talks about AmaZulu and it's monarchy on the same line with tribalism. He just lost my credibility, he seems antiZulu
@ufw.nhlanhla11 ай бұрын
You went on exile to train solders to kill ifp so you got what you deserve old man. Ntsebenza and Xoli
@busanindlovu378711 ай бұрын
What about Mandela sir
@avuyanyangani46011 ай бұрын
Mandela spent 27 years in prison and what about Buthelezi?
@dumisanimavundla75011 ай бұрын
Who is this 🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮
@moosangobese993711 ай бұрын
Thi man is talking nonsense, wha about violence in cross road kwa nobulhe ,kwa zakele.did Buthezi went there and course that violence?