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Nuclear Deterrence,Cold War & Geopolitical Conflict - Metal Gear Solid

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12 жыл бұрын

nastasha romanenko codec MGS (1998)

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@nube1oscuras
@nube1oscuras 7 жыл бұрын
And people say you can't learn anything from video games...
@jessespring120
@jessespring120 Жыл бұрын
This is Scary accurate
@ZUZAINFINITY
@ZUZAINFINITY 5 жыл бұрын
I learned more about history and political stuff from this game than when I was in school.
@ruebenllongoria836
@ruebenllongoria836 5 жыл бұрын
ZUZAINFINITY we were supposed to learn things in school?? 😮
@luisfelipesauvalle5807
@luisfelipesauvalle5807 4 жыл бұрын
I learnt to speak English
@pkemr4
@pkemr4 4 жыл бұрын
i had a friend who would use qoutes from the game in school
@thomasdebenham2883
@thomasdebenham2883 4 жыл бұрын
And people said I was crazy thinking that mgs2 was showing where we were heading with technology, philosophy and information control now look at things like, Facebook, Google, apple and many others it's worrying lol
@ZUZAINFINITY
@ZUZAINFINITY 4 жыл бұрын
Thomas Debenham it’s kinda scary how accurate most of that stuff became
@trogdorrules
@trogdorrules 5 жыл бұрын
I wish Nastasha appeared in MGS4
@kresimircosic9035
@kresimircosic9035 4 жыл бұрын
This game was fucking ahead of its time. Great lesson of my life, is a video game. Kojima the master.
@deathstroke-sl5jo
@deathstroke-sl5jo 9 ай бұрын
It’s insane how relevant this is
@Pride317
@Pride317 3 жыл бұрын
00:01-00:38 Nuclear Deterrence Theory 00:41-01:07 New Country 01:09-02:21 Cold War 02:24-03:14 TMD Systems 03:17-03:57 ABM Treaty 03:59-04:17 Economic Superpower 04:19-04:46 Major Power 04:48-05:10 Military Balance 05:11-05:45 START 3 Accord * 05:46-06:49 Russian Parliament 06:51-07:15 US and Russia 07:16-07:48 Nuclear Superiority 07:49-08:29 Chemical 08:30-09:35 Conflicts 09:36-09:59 Military Policy 10:00-10:38 21st Century 10:40-11:45 IAEA 11:47-12:43 1970
@CPUT99
@CPUT99 9 жыл бұрын
This is such a great lesson, and was very enlightening while playing through it around the age of 12. The entirety of the game but its allusions to START, DARPA, and other agencies I didn't even know existed that young, particularly...This speech on deterrence I have always remembered. Isn't there another dialog in deterrence in MGS2, or 3? My memory escapes me...
@Leviathan268
@Leviathan268 8 жыл бұрын
+dodofro Deterrence is the main topic of Peace Walker, and 3 is basically about the USSR trying to shift the first strike advantage in their favor and thus nullify deterrence.
@Kresh42
@Kresh42 3 жыл бұрын
Natasha is a character I wish got more screentime. I always liked listening to these CODEC calls during MGS.
@jasonchristian9490
@jasonchristian9490 2 жыл бұрын
How many Metal Gear fans are here because of what’s going on with Russia and Ukraine? Maybe hideo kojima left some predictions in his games. MGS 1 is a great masterpiece with the voice acting. Definitely Learned a little bit about nuclear weapons with this game. 😎
@seanarmstrong7059
@seanarmstrong7059 2 жыл бұрын
The game was ahead of it's time
@micindir4213
@micindir4213 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Ukraine. I've actually found great relief replaying whole franchise in the order of timeline (between air raid alarms). There are few comments: Mgs 2 is where its at. First bot attack / ai control - then take over a nation with military power. In mgs 5 there are NO civilians. Now you know why (either killed or driven out of their homes)
@nicolaslucena6411
@nicolaslucena6411 Жыл бұрын
@@micindir4213 by russians, even.
@Messier_-82
@Messier_-82 11 ай бұрын
@@micindir4213lol, apparently like most Ukrainians you don’t know history at all. Most civilians were evacuated from Afghanistan when the conflict started. And in the MGSV itself, you could listen to Russians commanders briefings where they say that avoiding civilians casualties is essentially a priority and soldiers absolutely must not hurt any civilians or the said commander would “kill who did this” himself or something like that
@Alfa4
@Alfa4 2 жыл бұрын
Strangely relevant today
@Squall659
@Squall659 2 жыл бұрын
Listening to this today with Russian aggression against NATO and Ukraine is mental*
@theengineer9910
@theengineer9910 2 жыл бұрын
Yep same. With the number of warheads in the world i put all my money on nuclear war happening but its just a question of who and when. Atleast we got to enjoy this masterpiece of a series before anything happened yet ! Kojima fans are def not ignorant about international affairs. I hope putin stops his 40 mile wide convoy heading into ukraine but i thought the peace talks would go well and they led to nothing.
@Messier_-82
@Messier_-82 2 жыл бұрын
@@theengineer9910 why should Putin stop? The game even says that NATO expansion could spark the conflict. So maybe Americans should consider withdrawing all those military bases if they don’t want the war
@cTreK-421
@cTreK-421 2 жыл бұрын
I mean all this political theory has been discussed and explored since the cold war. The genius here is how well he conveyed this theory and condensed into into such an amazing game. It helped spread the ideas to more people.
@HistoryandReviews
@HistoryandReviews 2 жыл бұрын
@@theengineer9910 it’s all staged
@CSionni
@CSionni Жыл бұрын
Natasha talks about regional conflicts between ethnic groups, religious groups, etc. increasing the risk of tactical nuke use. Here we are in late 2022 with Putin, the head of a large country, threatening tactical nukes. She was right about Russia flexing its nuclear muscles in the face of NATO, though. Amazing how we had a Cold War pause for about 20-30 years (nearly all of my 34 years) and here we are again. Did it ever really end? Maybe we were naive to think so.
@zeal203
@zeal203 4 жыл бұрын
Using this for studying International Relations, really accurate and significant commentary.
@AlxBrb
@AlxBrb 2 жыл бұрын
Natasha Romanenko in real world 1999: ""According to the military doctrine which is at the basis for NATO expansion, ... a pre-empetive nuclear strike may be undertaken IF there is sufficient threat to a regional conflict spreading to a large-scale war. In the face of all this NATO expansion, Russia might feel the need to flex their nuclear muscles... ..if only to show NATO that, even with their aging arsenal and diminished army, they are still a major power." March 2022: Russo-Ucraine war raging on with 2 mln of refugee, dense shelling and a new unchallenged crysis with both Lavrov and westerners blabbing about Nuclear pre-empetives and retaliations. OK. We ve seen that coming for a long time.
@Messier_-82
@Messier_-82 2 жыл бұрын
Not everyone apparently. And “Putin is madman, why did he do it”. Lol, Kohima knew
@Sparrows1121
@Sparrows1121 8 ай бұрын
Even if the signs where there of ultranationalist faction. That still doesnt make it okay to dictate what other countries should do or not to do. I mean sure you can call it hypocritical since 9/11 and all that. And one can have discussions on that. But overall i am more in favor of, let them be type of ideology. If the government is bad then people will get the problem around the typical issues since French revolution and such.
@AlxBrb
@AlxBrb 8 ай бұрын
@@Sparrows1121 do you really believe that the French revolution model still "works" (and it only sorta worked originally) in a post Internet Centralization world, where any kind of Ideology is an expendable asset for an agenda by definition through digital heterodirection of the masses?
@seanarmstrong7059
@seanarmstrong7059 2 жыл бұрын
This is more relevant to today than when the game was released back in 1998
@knightshousegames
@knightshousegames Жыл бұрын
Thats how good speculative science fiction works
@Buttterscotched
@Buttterscotched 2 жыл бұрын
Scary times we live in
@EBurns91
@EBurns91 Жыл бұрын
Only scary if you let it.
@carltomacruz9138
@carltomacruz9138 4 жыл бұрын
I wish Nastasha were in MGS2 or in MGS4. She just disappeared without a trace.
@samgreenblatt7074
@samgreenblatt7074 4 жыл бұрын
She writes a novel about Shadow Moses you can read in MGS2. It has some information you might find pertinent. She doesn't show up afterwards because she's in hiding.
@johncarter4956
@johncarter4956 3 жыл бұрын
Unlike Mei Ling, Colonel and Naomi, Nastasha have to hide on the other side of the world in some country in order to avoid being hunt down by both the US and Russian agent. While the rest of the Shadow Moses survivor is either joined/secretly support the philantropy or joined the UN.
@Biaanca5036
@Biaanca5036 Жыл бұрын
She probably wasn't relevant anymore since she was only called in for the "probable nuclear threat" relevant to the Shadow Moses incident as part of the nuclear emergency search team, etc etc. There probably wasn't a good way for the writers to make her relevant in any other game. I do love that voice though
@thatelephant
@thatelephant 5 жыл бұрын
I say that MGS was more then just a game. See how the world was and is now. Hideo Kojima predicted some things of the future that is to this day.
@ismejks
@ismejks 2 жыл бұрын
Is happening now..
@DinnerIsDelayed
@DinnerIsDelayed 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kojima. I remembered this when Putin invaded Ukraine
@chamos425
@chamos425 2 жыл бұрын
lol me too
@Solid_Snack
@Solid_Snack 2 жыл бұрын
Wow kojima is God
@mursuka80
@mursuka80 2 жыл бұрын
YT for some reason recommended this. I wonder why.
@antonymackin
@antonymackin 2 жыл бұрын
How prescient this seems today with the situation in Ukraine. I don't care if it's made up, it's totally relevant.
@tranvinhnhat1289
@tranvinhnhat1289 11 ай бұрын
My uncle told me about this.
@giovanniukmar1522
@giovanniukmar1522 2 жыл бұрын
Very up to date game Kojima never fails to amaze 🙌🙌🙌
@riesenbuhai
@riesenbuhai 2 жыл бұрын
lets see what happens next year...
@UNIT294
@UNIT294 Жыл бұрын
If she wasnt in MGS, she would have made a kickass character in 24 or The West Wing.
@RicePanda
@RicePanda 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes for current situations.
@cortachurros4268
@cortachurros4268 Жыл бұрын
needed to watch this, and start to replay mgs saga after seeing oppenheimer
@TheLakabanzaichrg
@TheLakabanzaichrg Жыл бұрын
It's sad nothing has changed in almost 30 years
@zenbmonk1016
@zenbmonk1016 Жыл бұрын
Had to listen to this dialogue again, after learning of the attack on Crimea in Ukraine.
@kejiri3593
@kejiri3593 3 жыл бұрын
Very relevant to this day. It may explain why nukes happens in countries you dont like it to happen too. If nukes was reduced or eliminated way more, most likely it wouldnt get in hands of others
@aname2481
@aname2481 2 жыл бұрын
Did Putin watch 4:35 and think: “Yes I do”?
@CSionni
@CSionni Жыл бұрын
Literally what is happening right now in Oct. 2022
@Messier_-82
@Messier_-82 11 ай бұрын
Everyone knew how Russia would react to NATO expansion, but no one did anything to try to avoid the conflict
@Sparrows1121
@Sparrows1121 9 ай бұрын
Its insane how much this game got the eye on the ball when it comes to being right on geopolitical issues
@JohnAbrahamsen
@JohnAbrahamsen 2 жыл бұрын
Still relevant...
@jessespring120
@jessespring120 Жыл бұрын
For fiction this is amazingly accurate or close to history
@nintendorakyamato1859
@nintendorakyamato1859 3 жыл бұрын
Good advice from Nastasha
@f.boogaloospook2318
@f.boogaloospook2318 2 жыл бұрын
Then She wrote a great books
@navylaks2
@navylaks2 11 жыл бұрын
I have played and listened to the codec calls it's very matrix inspired the way Agent Smith talk's to Morpheus in the first film during the interrogation, if you wanna play around with reality give Snake posttraumatic stress disorder, confuse the player to the point were you don't know wether you're the good or bad guy. The whole codec call sequence at federal hall is like a long cut scene with no sense of interaction, what's fun about that?
@addi543
@addi543 Жыл бұрын
(Kojima develops a game with a story about the dangers of nuclear war and nuclear proliferation) 9 year old me playing MGS in 1998: Snake go grunt, Johnny poops his pants, cool ninja robot, Metal Gear go brrrrrr
@novahikari1223
@novahikari1223 2 жыл бұрын
why are we still here?
@MrGodaoo
@MrGodaoo 3 жыл бұрын
8:30 Temos drones com um precisão absurda. Capaz de interceptar um carro em alta velocidade.
@Mobro-jk1dy
@Mobro-jk1dy Жыл бұрын
Played this amazing game back in the days. Who knew of nano technology back then? This game is politically correct in many codec an cinematic content ✅
@MrGodaoo
@MrGodaoo 3 жыл бұрын
8:49 Angola foi um exemplo de revolução regional, foram pisoteados por dois elefantes superpotentes que nem sequer brigaram.
@TheMovingChicane
@TheMovingChicane Жыл бұрын
4:33 so relevant today.
@fritztopher
@fritztopher Жыл бұрын
YUP
@pelon198712
@pelon198712 2 жыл бұрын
Umm 🤔🤔🤔
@navylaks2
@navylaks2 11 жыл бұрын
The Torture room isn't that a huge interactive storytelling event?
@Biaanca5036
@Biaanca5036 Жыл бұрын
I always wonder how much is actual trivia and how much is made up
@usul573
@usul573 Жыл бұрын
Seems fairly accurate to me. Though MGS1 was released in 1998 and is set in 2005. Start 3 never happened it was replaced with SORT in 2002 and New Start in 2010.
@tonymata8070
@tonymata8070 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the voice of Natasha Romanenko is the same one who did Ms. Butterbean in The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy, I’m not even kidding here.
@navylaks2
@navylaks2 11 жыл бұрын
One step above? it was a story about simulating the events of shadow mosses while being imperfect and turning written laws on peaces of paper to artificial intelligent life. The A.I.'s are essentially nothing more than a class written in Javascript;) Thus only being able to work after the restrictions of their own coding. The choice you're given is Binary either die or kill Solidus T.N.D. You could say that the best way to beat MGS2 is either turning the consol off or pressing the reset button.
@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty 3 жыл бұрын
Everything Nastasha said in two words: Nukes bad
@navylaks2
@navylaks2 11 жыл бұрын
I wish she was in more MGS games why haven't we had the pleasure of her voice since. Hopefully they'll make that MGS: Philantrophy game in wich she stands in for Colonell Campell It'll be the best way for Hideo Kojima to Redeem himself for the massive sin of MGS2 and Raiden!!!
@mattjames2699
@mattjames2699 3 жыл бұрын
So, Solidus fears Putin.
@riesenbuhai
@riesenbuhai 2 жыл бұрын
everyone fears Putin...
@Sparrows1121
@Sparrows1121 8 ай бұрын
Nah Arthur got him good in Red Dead Redemption 2, except his name is Angelo Bronte in that one, but he is a huge jackass like Putin normally is.
@alexandermonroe774
@alexandermonroe774 Жыл бұрын
Natasha With The Knowledge Tho.
@PepeNuclear
@PepeNuclear Жыл бұрын
NEOCON Juice, Every. Single. Time.
@timzz4720
@timzz4720 2 жыл бұрын
The algo is trying to be funny.
@navylaks2
@navylaks2 11 жыл бұрын
So you would rather say that the annoying Fortune Boss fight and the sniper fight of vamp which bare's no purpose are forms of art? The first MGS1 used the change of controller ports to defeat a mind reading pshycho mantis(and if you couldn't you would unmask the 2 statues in the room) now that's clever, MGS3 followed up with The Sorrow
@sebu6831
@sebu6831 5 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain me why I never heard this woman before ? I played as a child this game over and over and never spoke to her ? Did I miss something ?
@MrAcqua
@MrAcqua 5 жыл бұрын
campbell gives you her codec
@Wallguardian
@Wallguardian 5 жыл бұрын
She was an "optional" codec. Campbell gave it to you in the beginning, and you could also see the codec in the back of the cover.
@meowdy5365
@meowdy5365 4 жыл бұрын
SeBu she tells you about weapons and some strategy
@Libretro
@Libretro 11 жыл бұрын
MGS4 is not about lazy uninspired fan service with no subtlety or depth at all - you must have been playing a different game than me. MGS2 was made during the days of Project Echelon - anybody and his dog could have known by then that everybody was being spied on all the time - you didn't need Edward Snowden to tell you that 12 years later. MGS4 is far beyond that still and show wars will be waged a couple of years from now by the Pentagon and the defense contractors.
@brandonnleyva100
@brandonnleyva100 Жыл бұрын
The very end is a really important note with AI If we get to the point where the Government can claim that the tools we have are indistinguishable from military and civilian applications, they can use this to undermine our rights.
@gabrielfranco1899
@gabrielfranco1899 4 жыл бұрын
There was no nuclear weapons in irak they where chimical missiles been develop
@johncarter4956
@johncarter4956 3 жыл бұрын
Iraq did not have enough Uranium to build a proper one (they were "stolen" by the US during the gulf war and Operation Desert Storm.) so they tried to find an alternative in order to stand up against the west.
@navylaks2
@navylaks2 11 жыл бұрын
I understand perfectly what they were trying to achieve, with Raiden as a substitute for you as the player. However a character in a game no matter who and how welldefined, will never be the same as the person holding the controller. And it's not like i don't like philosophy i enjoy it alot, but as a gameplayer i wanne be more directly involved and you weren't in MGS2 MGS5 as far as i've heard try similar things but executed in a better way, here Big Boss can not distingguis dream from reality.
@navylaks2
@navylaks2 11 жыл бұрын
Well the Tank chapter is yes;) The rest is not so good
@EnglishBullet
@EnglishBullet 7 жыл бұрын
navylaks2 Typical fanboy who obviously didn't get the message of mgs2. Control of digital information... Kojima actually predicted what is going on in the world now in mgs2... :)
@navylaks2
@navylaks2 11 жыл бұрын
MGS1 had a theme and a smart one, now if a game has great story that means that it's likely to work better as a film than a game. The game medium should be interactive storytelling because it make's you the player more involved, the way The End could be taken out in MGS3 was interactive storytelling with a theme. And what made the first mgs1 so great was the 4th wall breaks allmost none of these can be seen in MGS2. Sons of liberty had alot of potential but ultimately felt unfinished and poor
@blasdelezo4042
@blasdelezo4042 Жыл бұрын
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