*Saved him from the Catholics. The distinction is important.

Did she? Wasn't it just a result of Toranaga's machination?

@@Leonn3rd both

@@Leonn3rd It was Mariko's idea. She came up with it to protect John and keep him safe even after her death. Toranaga accepted the idea, Mariko brokered the deal with Father Alvito, and Toranaga executed the ship's burning.

​@@Leonn3rd she did, it was Mariko idea.

It was so emotional until the happy happy song of this channel came in ....:/ I know it is the pattern but still...

Loved it, felt so real and raw. Hope he wins all the awards

I dunno maybe it's just me but i cried a bit in every damn episode.

They don’t hug in this show. They bow. I feel like his old consort should have given a hug during their departure.

It was considered unmanly back in those days for men to hug

@@morganbrown392 That's exactly why he needs a hug...and some pints.

@@savhoneybadger3177 More in Japan than England.

No! He is teki. teki gets no hugs.

I’m not crying, you’re crying

It's raining.

I shed angry tears twice..she escaped death by a hair..I was angered..wait no 2x angry but when John was in th boat.. trying to hold back...yeah the man tears thus came

I would not mind a battle though ngl

@@fungunsun1 This series gave us some pretty refreshing authenticity, so if they had the budget and time, I'm confident they would have crafted a magnificent Sekigahara.

@@dagdamor1 the book doesnt have the battle

@@tl3033 Do me a favor, Google “Battle of Sekigahara” and let me know in detail why the book is necessary for a historical battle.

GoT has unlimited budget. Iron thrones Dragon Big army battles The night King Shogun has a very low budget . No Iron Throne Dragon ( but only Falcon) Night King Big army battles But it executed so perfectly.

So, the Japanese equivalent of German "Sehnsucht"?

Yes, i suppose thats the best way to discribe what john would be feeling now.

I dont even know how he's doing it, the character and the actor, character wise thats a tough thing to go through and still hold composure and actor wise, being able to portray that emotion to that depth is superb

My eyes are yellow. You know why?

@@PanzarInthelake Jaundice?

​@@PanzarInthelakeyou're a sith

If it gives you any comfort, the woman Mariko was based on didn't die in this manner and led a long(ish) life.

@@milosmilosmilos It does! Thank you for that information.

@@milosmilosmilos That isn't true. Hosokawa Gracia died at only age 37 and was killed by her retainer when Ishida (Ishido's inspiration) attempted to take her hostage. Her husband had ordered his servants to do so if her honor was threatened. She also didn't want to commit suicide as that's against Christianity.

@@milosmilosmilos Yes she did. In fact the last poem Mariko says in the show was made by Akechi Tama, her real life counterpart: "Only by knowing when to fall, Do flowers become flowers And people become people" As she was about to be taken hostage, she ordered her servant to kill her and then set fire to the castle.

⁠@@TrippyTimesTwo no she actually died tragically…please google “Hosokawa Gracia”

You know, he had a wife back home and he has a wife after all these events.

@@The_Gallowglass That doesn’t mean she is right for him

@@hmshood9212 lol

And go for that walk on the Thames ❤

Yes, no words were necessary. The acting did its job. Show, don't tell

@@AJ--212 Catholic is a type of Christian, I'm not sure if you knew

I see what you did there

Silence is the canon sequel to Shogun lol

So did he. It just never got out.

Pleaae let me knownwhen u do!

Looking too 😣

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Haunting

sadly its not in the official soundtrack such a shame. most powerfull scene in the whole series.

That’s what I’m after

i want it to its perfect sadly its not in the official soundtrack.

She just what's women like to be

I disagree. He was content to let Blackthorn die if Mariko had not made a deal with the Catholics to prevent that. He was more loyal to his country's interests than his Church's. Everyone in this show has ulterior motives no one is pure.

​@@othelliusmaximusmaybe the characters portrayed by Nestor Carbonell and Joaquim Almeida were the only Europeans with some standards, plus the protagonist.

Blackthorn is a heretic

@@othelliusmaximusI disagree with that. He very easily could have had him killed in the woods. But he honored Mariko-Sama’s last wish/deal

@@camerongrant8344 It was also his orders from the Portuguese higher ups, who had made a deal with Toranaga-sama. Slaying Blackthorne would've been going back on their deal with him by that point, so it would've been incredibly foolish.

oshit you're right, it's Barney!

Their only real fear was Blackthorne revealing the naval course to open competing trade with Japan. With the Erasmus sank, the Portuguese had no fear of Blackthorne and knew that he is merely an interesting anomaly for Toranaga. What they didn't appreciate is that Toranaga used Anjin to bring the Portuguese to the table and broker a neutrality when it comes to Ishido and the Council of Regents.

Well obviously they cant show the whole thing its copyright

I'm sure I recall an interview he did where he said he was consciously channelling a sort of 'Burton' vibe. And credit where it's due, it worked.

@@Blisterdude123 Speaking as one who grew up near Pontrhydyfen (but never met the great man) absolutely agree with you.

Real Love never lost it.s just ‏‪ Nobel feeling not desire and matter

And to know that she died without ever getting to live for herself- she lived for her father's legacy, for her husband, then for Toranaga.... but she never got to truly be Mariko except the few precious moments she stole away with Blackthorne. Tragic then, that she died so young- and as she said, men fight their battles and struggle for primacy by warring with each other, but "a woman is simply at war".

Actors cost money the longer you keep them on set

What did we miss from the Jesuits in this adaptation?

Its been a really long time 40 plus years but seem to remember Fugi not becoming a nun and staying with John and them both being happy together!

​@@kona883she died in the book

@@leonardogodoy8687 yes you’re right she died in the book! But in the original mini series she stayed with John,

In a real history, Miura Anzin had two children with Japanese wife.

I think he did, hence the "Old John" scene with his 2 Grandchildren

You're right, but up until Blackthorne shows up the Japanese Christians didn't know they were Catholic as opposed to Christian in general. The Jesuits would deny there was such a thing as a protestant church, only heretics. To the Japanese the fact that there were other countries in Europe beside Spain and Portugaul would be a surprise.

Yes. As the Catholics and the Portuguese will always see John's ship as a threat to their power, influence and trade. So in order to save his life, put the Catholics' minds at ease, and ensure John never leaves Japan, the ship had to be destroyed.

Just a different form of tribalism.

Power. That's what every organized religion is actually about. Other faiths represent competition, and are a threat to total dominion. Note that the Protestants, despite having legitimate grievances at the Reformation and dare I say a moral high ground? Despite that, they would become just as vile and controlling when they established their own empires. Carrying out the same atrocities, oppressing others just as they were oppressed.

No Toranaga did.

No she didn't.

Toranaga did it as part of his dealings with the Catholics. Presumably, Mariko and he had it planned since before the final trip to Osaka. She bargained for his life, which was only tenable if his means to attack the Catholics was removed; otherwise he'd get his ship back and immediately sail it against the Black Ship, which wouldn't benefit Toranaga, the Portuguese, Japan, or in the end even benefit Blackthorne. So likely Mariko and Toranaga worked out that he would be spared and taken back into Toranaga's service, but that the ship had to be destroyed. It was also a test of Anjin's character.

in the eyes of British people. Yes. The catholic were not Christians. and through out this show anjiun keeps saying this . The fact that the person who posted this video called themselves Christians. Shows you that he is with the Spanish.

Catholics are the original Christians, then and now.

Catholics are Christians

Catholicism is a type of Christianity by modern reckoning. At the time, Catholics would've considered Catholicism the only Christianity and all other sects heretical, and likewise Protestants (Blackthorne would presumably be an Anglican Protestant, aka the Church of England) would consider Catholics to be heretical non-Christians, but through the modern lens we would consider them all Christian.

You'd probably end up dead in episode 1 if you were in toranaga's shoes.

@therealistintheboot8822 no I wouldn't

you're watching this on youtube. not hulu or fx. For free.

Mariko’s Christian name

No, too many series drag things out season after season for no reason. One season, 10 episodes is perfect. Just like Chernobyl. But if you want more, I suggest reading the excellent book Shogun is adapted from.

Nah there wasn't much more to this story. You'd basically have to do character spin offs.

Don't wish for more. FX was still able to make season 1 more or less when it was still under the umbrella of Fox Group. Since then, Disney acquired Fox, which included Shogun. If there's a season 2, pray for the best but expect the worst. Disney is right now psychotically enforcing DEI everywhere. Be aware of who's producing and the dirty pressures they are exerting on Japanese creatives right now. See what's happened to Hollyweird. The DEI parasites have already started their attempts to contaminate Japan.

Look up Sekigahara to find that war.

@@apresoline3306 there wont be season 2

The book didn't even show the war. Just a page of explanation about it. Besides, the point of the story wasn't about wars. Ot's about politics & traditions in sengoku era.

AND THATS WHAT MAKES IT PERFECT!

That priest was actually one of the good ones, it’s why he and Mariko got along so well

​@@danix4883 yes in both versions of this tale, I like Fr Alvito. The bishop comes off worse in this version and Fr Sebastio is a whinier version of the older one.

That's true. It's also true Buntaro was wildly physically and psychologically abusive to her for years.

Her marriage to Buntaro was arranged to keep her within Toranaga's House. It wasn't a union of love or affection. There was never truly a meeting of the hearts between the two. This does not somehow negate the infidelity, but rather presents a context for the how and why of it.

I am old enough to have watched the original, and no, it was not better. Great for its time, but this show is better in every department.

@@wahn10 Too depressing and it veered away from the book. The original series was vibrant. The characters were more eclectic.

@@warrennicholsony.fernando4513 It's your opinion, but you're enormously in the minority on this one. The 1980 series isn't even in the same league as this, I'm afraid.

@@TastyCement I don't think so. This version too cold and the characters tend to be too distant with each other. There was no chemistry with Blackthorn and Mariko. Toranaga's reason for keeping Blackthorn in Japan was way deeper. This version is already veering away from the book and they are making into something it is not.

Well yeah there were white people in Japan during those times and the story is based on actual historical figures..

@@MultiTrickster121 I understand, but it's kind of embarrassing that Disney can only tell a story in Japan if there's white people in it

Lol, nice bait 🤡

It was realistic to men of that time. Strong men feel pain just like others, but they are not in the habit of bawling their eyes out.

real crying of men deeply inside them without drop of tears

How was it bad? That's the cry of a man who is trying to be strong but failing