The Bugatti EB110 - A Heartbreaking Failure

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Number 27

Жыл бұрын

This is the story of The Bugatti EB110. It was the first new Bugatti in 40 years, it was designed to beat the cars from Modena, Ferrari and Lamborghini. It was the fastest and most technically advanced car when launched and yet still failed to sell in enough numbers to keep the factory alive. In this video I explore the reasons why the EB110 failed despite being a better supercar than its rivals from Modena.
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Sources:
Pics of Bugatti Factory: www.motortrend.com/features/1411-former-bugatti-spa-headquarters
Autocar Pics: www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/from-the-archive/greatest-road-tests-ever-bugatti-eb110-gt
Bugatti Historical pics: www.bugatti.com/brand/history/chronicles/
Thumbnail picture:
robbreport.com/motors/cars/bugatti-eb-110-gt-prototype-for-sale-1234620827/
copleymotorcars.com
ryanmerrillphotography.com
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@skilgour44
@skilgour44 Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised that sabotage wasn’t mentioned. People who worked for Bugatti at the time consistently noticed that tasks they’d completed the day before would be undone the next day. Ferrari is also implicated in threatening component suppliers not to work with Bugatti so life was quite difficult for the company despite a quality product and celebrity endorsement (i.e. Schumacher).
@the_bunse
@the_bunse Жыл бұрын
I also heard from more than one source that you could not buy an EB110 you had to be vetted by the owner and he would not sell to certain people, limiting the market.
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 Жыл бұрын
We need to cancel Ferrari for this.
@dimi911
@dimi911 Жыл бұрын
There is a video from Kidston on KZfaq that refers to that.
@sbsb4995
@sbsb4995 Жыл бұрын
You are spot on. Shitty Ferrari played dirty.
@giacinto1966
@giacinto1966 Жыл бұрын
Its not ferrari ....its the fiat owners, the agnellis....a real scandalous family
@markaustin6312
@markaustin6312 Жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to be Sales Manager at the H.R. Owen Bugatti showroom in Cheval Place, Knightsbridge. 4EB pictured in the video was our demo car at the time. It was a great car to drive, very smooth and comfortable but it was a bit laggy and had very noisy wastegates which you either liked or not. No rear vision and you had to reverse it like a Countach (drivers door open and half sitting on the door sill). This wasn't easy and I did reverse it into a wall when my foot slipped off the clutch one time. If I remember correctly the GBP 285k price included lifetime warranty and service plan provided the car was serviced with us as per Bugatti schedule. The Supersport version was I think GBP 335k.
@Iowa599
@Iowa599 Жыл бұрын
A lifetime warranty? That would make the car cheap, after a life of repair expenses are considered!
@johnforeman6620
@johnforeman6620 Жыл бұрын
I think the purchase price also included any later modifications.
@spunkbubble1
@spunkbubble1 Жыл бұрын
I saw an EB110 a few years back, may even have been an SS (seen a few fantastic cars in the interim), it’s definitely pretty diminutive for something with such power …. The good old days before everything got lardy and needed 200bho to move. It was strange that it drew so few looks from people passing by. I suppose you could bizarrely think of it flying under the radar for many people as they don’t know what it is. I wouldn’t kick it out of the garage for farting.
@kenw1295
@kenw1295 Жыл бұрын
The one and only time I saw one was at the Monaco GP in 92 in the Casino car park. In the flesh it looked amazing.
@uleertel
@uleertel Жыл бұрын
Small correction about the country owning the city of Molsheim. It was French until 1870. Then German until 1918, then French again, then occupied during ww2, and back to France after that. So it was not only French "after ww2". Considering Bugatti left the city during war it was in Germany the first 5 years.
@simonhodgetts6530
@simonhodgetts6530 Жыл бұрын
I remember the Burago model of this well! A sort of monumental car, not exactly pretty, but definitely not lacking presence!
@paullacey2999
@paullacey2999 Жыл бұрын
Yes me too.I loved that model....👍
@surfrat9340
@surfrat9340 Жыл бұрын
Don't normally enjoy talking head videos, but you nailed it... Well done.
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@rwelsh938
@rwelsh938 Жыл бұрын
Jack Ive been out in one of these mate. My uncle was Production manager at lotus when Bugatti owned lotus. I blagged a vip tour including being scared to death in numerous cars this was one of them. Ace vid by the way Si from Bath
@gabrielash75
@gabrielash75 Жыл бұрын
I had the privilege of seeing one of these in the flesh at the auto museum in Saratoga NY it was silver with a gray interior. It was sitting across from a Porsche 959 which was next to a Jaguar XJ220. It was a display of eighties and nineties sports cars . I asked the gentleman working the floor where is the F40. He said they have never had one on display.
@paultasker7788
@paultasker7788 Жыл бұрын
I owned one of these. Only problem was I had to power it myself and only a lego man could fit in it. 1:16 scale. At the time I had several of these including Ferrari F40/F50 Lamborghini diablo, McLaren F1and Porsche 959, the Bugatti was easily my favourite. I thought I looked incredible in blue. Now it looks a bit dated though. Still like it though.
@barrycuda3769
@barrycuda3769 Жыл бұрын
In the early 70's I owned a ford p68' dfv 3 litre. I don't know where it is now' it just went missing.
@michaellorenson2997
@michaellorenson2997 Жыл бұрын
I remember thinking the EB110 was astonishingly heavy and complex, and absurdly expensive. Turbos were super-laggy in those days, so everyone really wanted normally aspirated engines, which were becoming more efficient, larger, and more powerful every year, thanks to digital engine management. In the face of that, here was a car with _four_ turbos! And, if it was so sophisticated and made of all these wonderful, lightweight materials, why was it so bloody heavy? Just to put the knife in for the kill, it was hopelessly, irredeemably ugly to my eye. It looked huge in pictures, and didn't give me the slightest impression that it was a fun-loving kind of sports car. Super-fast, for sure, but mostly just obscene. Then the McLaren F1 appeared, and it was just so _right_ in every way. I never gave Bugatti another thought, after that.
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 Жыл бұрын
Tell me your a Ferrari fan without telling me you a Ferrari fan.
@michaellorenson2997
@michaellorenson2997 Жыл бұрын
@@jwalster9412 I don't get it. You think what I said about the EB110 guarantees that I'm a "Ferrari fan"? Hate to disappoint you, but I don't really care about Ferrari.
@tumslucks9781
@tumslucks9781 Жыл бұрын
The engine displacement was only 3.5 litres. Something to do American emissions regulations. It needed four turbos to bring power output to a reasonable level but this meant the engine sounded dreadful. It sounded more like a Fiat than a V12. That was the EB110s only real flaw. Being released in the middle of a recession didn't help either.
@scottjohnson4319
@scottjohnson4319 Жыл бұрын
I remember as a kid when it came out it never quite had enough wall poster status to replace the F-40 for me... but the McLaren did!
@matthewmcree1992
@matthewmcree1992 Жыл бұрын
Personally I think the EB-110 is actually really beautiful, although I understand why people would think it looks a bit strange. The front has a truly 90s supercar look that still (IMO) looks very futuristic despite not having the crazy aggressive looks that we think supercars look like nowadays, and maybe that "civilized" look that it has is why I like it. It makes me think of the way that some high-speed trains look, and since I love high-speed trains, it just works for me. A shame that it failed :(
@lebojay
@lebojay Жыл бұрын
I love the OG Team Associated RC10… that’s like the Audi Quattro of RC cars. It all changed after that. I remember seeing the blue factory entirely by accident. Cruising down the autostrada on holiday… oh, there’s Bugatti! Very good video, Jack. I learned a lot. Thank you.
@giorgiodelpalatinato6718
@giorgiodelpalatinato6718 Жыл бұрын
Best explanation I've ever heard in regard to the failure of Bugatti 2.0! And the very first time I heard in a video that Bugatti was founded as a German company in Germany! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Ettore was Italian, made his decisive experiences when working for Deutz in Cologne, started his business in Germany and continued it in France. This is an early example for a really European company!
@simodthebod4256
@simodthebod4256 Жыл бұрын
Love these series of videos Jack. Awesome vid👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@caterhamsuperlightr81
@caterhamsuperlightr81 Жыл бұрын
I saw my one and only EB110 parked up in a Nice back street when staying there for the 1996 Monaco Grand Prix. Couldn’t believe my eyes! Just left there in the dark like a large blue Renault Laguna!
@christineayres7199
@christineayres7199 Жыл бұрын
Also i just got a shock the McLaren F1 LM version could hit 60mph in 2.9 seconds , thats as fast as a Tesla Model S back in 1995 crazy for that era
@jonclarke8255
@jonclarke8255 Жыл бұрын
It was a schoolboys dream. I was at Goodwood in the early 90s and remember a supercar dealer turning up in one. He let me sit in it and at 6ft 5” I can confirm they’re really cramped. Obviously this was the reason I never owned one! Great video Jack.
@asensibleyoungman2978
@asensibleyoungman2978 Жыл бұрын
You just wanted to tell us all you're 6'5" didn't you?
@paulstrapps
@paulstrapps Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing the story. The EB110 passed me by at the time, great to find out more. I know a slightly off channel topic but a video talking about those radio control cars would be great too. I remember having a Tamiya Rough Rider as a kid, which was basically the Sand Scorcher (on the right behind you) with a different body I believe.
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Cheers Si! Interesting you’ve actually been in one!
@DoubleDeckerAnton
@DoubleDeckerAnton Жыл бұрын
Very interesting story Jack. I didn't look into Bugatti's history before. Looking forward to more of these.
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Thank you chap!! Really glad you enjoyed it!
@jongmans38
@jongmans38 Жыл бұрын
It looked like a kit car, not an exotica sports car!
@nickhannaford3253
@nickhannaford3253 Жыл бұрын
That’s the Bugatti I’d have. 👍😎 I do like a underdog though….but they had me with quad turbos😂
@EnricoGregoratto
@EnricoGregoratto Жыл бұрын
Love these videos Jack - always learning something new!
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Grazie Enrico!! Saluti dall’Ingilterra!
@eze8970
@eze8970 Жыл бұрын
EB110 had questionable looks, & in a strange middle ground - those with more cash would go for the more expensive cars, those with less the Ferraris & Lamborghinis, which would have similar performance, & known names. I remember an EB110 going up the Goodwood Hill, the passenger had his feet on the dashboard, I was horrified! Thanks Jack!🙏
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching dude!!
@Bettaos
@Bettaos Жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis. Thank you. I recently enjoyed some video of the EB110 on the Davide Cironi's Channel. I like this car so much, even if had not the success it deserved.
@organiccold
@organiccold Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the cool story Jack. Me too love both cars :) i had a passion for the EB110 when it come out
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Thank you chap!
@leebuckles2364
@leebuckles2364 Жыл бұрын
Another good history lesson jack well done enjoying them very much
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Lee, thanks for watching!
@blarkdexture8899
@blarkdexture8899 Жыл бұрын
F1 still looks like a new design. Can’t say that about the Bugatti.
@Jonathan_Doe_
@Jonathan_Doe_ Жыл бұрын
The F1 is still pretty, in a timeless way, but the general curviness of the design definitely places it firmly in its timeframe. Manufacturers design languages feature more sharp lines now.
@BruceKent00
@BruceKent00 Жыл бұрын
The F1 looks like crap
@Squidgy55
@Squidgy55 Жыл бұрын
@@BruceKent00 It really doesn't.
@tumslucks9781
@tumslucks9781 Жыл бұрын
@@Squidgy55 The F1 hasn't aged at all. The only flaw in the design are the bug eyed headlamps. Most supercars are overstyled so they age badly. The F1 was aesthetically restrained but still looks like a contemporary supercar. Gordon Murray is a genius.
@Squidgy55
@Squidgy55 Жыл бұрын
@@tumslucks9781 I agree.
@ManinaGarage
@ManinaGarage Жыл бұрын
Awesome car, awesome video Jack! Thank you 🙌
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching buddy!
@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13
@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 Жыл бұрын
Thought for a moment you had an EB110 to road test... Thought you'd hit the big leagues lol. Great chat though, love your work
@alanstonelake2673
@alanstonelake2673 Жыл бұрын
Great vid Jack. Always wondered what this car was like and now I know.
@gaetanoflorio6277
@gaetanoflorio6277 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jack, I was at the inaugural launch in Sydney Australia and remember the evening very well. It was pouring rain and the humidity was very high and the one thing that made me ponder how a car of its value had foggy tail lights. Not a good look for a half million dollar car on the night, but in saying so, it was an amazing car to look at and sit in. Thanks for the great video. Keep up the great content 👍
@nicholass3964
@nicholass3964 Жыл бұрын
I was there too and remember the foggy tail lights. I think the 110 in Australia may have suffered from its association with a Car Dealer Empire on Parramatta Road that was perhaps unwisely bailing out standover men and had ex-employees arrested in Bangkok trafficing in illegal contraband as I remember
@gaetanoflorio6277
@gaetanoflorio6277 Жыл бұрын
@@nicholass3964 Rick Damelian was thebdealer at the time. One of Sydney's biggest distributor of automobiles. Amazing when that incident occurred, they dissapeared very quickly. Still was a night to remember.
@russellhammond4373
@russellhammond4373 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jack. Brilliant summary.
@davidperkins605
@davidperkins605 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed watching and learning about cars, 👍
@CharlesFlahertyB
@CharlesFlahertyB Жыл бұрын
I saw one (silver) in the paddock at the 2002 Monterey Historics at Laguna Seca. It's spectacular in person
@bobmcl2406
@bobmcl2406 Жыл бұрын
Might just be me, but all the modern Bugattis (including the EB110) come across as unnecessarily heavy and complex. My view of Ettore Bugatti's sports and racing cars was quite the opposite. Anyway, I enjoyed this video, and thanks for reminding me of that era.
@mattandrews1317
@mattandrews1317 Жыл бұрын
Another great video Jack!
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Matt!
@jibbyjabby7499
@jibbyjabby7499 Жыл бұрын
One of my all time favourites. Incredible car.
@filiannuzzi5871
@filiannuzzi5871 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed that. Thanks ;)
@kougerat5388
@kougerat5388 Жыл бұрын
I'm going to have to replay this one (audio only next time) I was constantly distracted by the Tamiya cars especially the Scorcher! 😉
@steffydog
@steffydog Жыл бұрын
Facinating thanks Jack.
@christopherkelly577
@christopherkelly577 Жыл бұрын
Can recall the craziness of it being quad turbod and them being in deep financial trouble. What a time. The F40, this...the F1.
@paulallen8109
@paulallen8109 Жыл бұрын
The F1 was the only one of them which pushed the envelope from a technological point of view, which *proved its worth* both by winning the 24 Hours of LeMans at the first attempt (which has only happened once before in the 99 years of that race) and proving a totally accurate 387k/h (240mph) on the VW test track. The EB110 however was ahead of the time in actually being a practically useable supercar as it was civilized and didn't require a professional racing driver to be fully utilized. Ferrari's own test driver said that almost all owners of the F40 only utilized 30% of its potential and that was simply due to the fact it's basically a racing car with a license plate. Even Schumacher said that it requires a lot from a driver and that it's actually irresponsible to offer it to non-pros.
@johnforeman6620
@johnforeman6620 Жыл бұрын
I used to be in the Bugatti Owners Club (one did not actually have to own a Bugatti to be in it) and because of that had a very impressive invitation to the launch, I think in Paris. Unfortunately I was working abroad at the time and could not go. I did keep the invitation that is in a draw somewhere.
@huwprice881
@huwprice881 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jack! I’m supposed to be cooking supper, but no one’s noticed I’m watching this. I was never a fan of the EB110, I think it was the crossed eyed and boxy styling, but it was a technological tour de force (redolent of the Porsche 959 maybe?) and I really enjoyed the video. It’s interesting too that this and so many other cars of the time weren’t successful, at least initially, the Jag XJ220, McLaren F1 spring to mind, but that nowadays it seems that despite similar political and economic outlooks, and the fall of the Oligarchs, there is still a massive and apparently inexhaustible market for hugely expensive cars with big numbers, but no heritage (Hennessy Venom F5, I’m looking at you!). Thanks again, best wishes, Huw.
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
That’s for watching and for your comments Huw!! As you say many other cars failed to sell at this time.. the economy being the way it was!
@mrd4335
@mrd4335 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jack, Hope your doing good 👍. Be interesting to have a vid on the 16 cylinder Chezeta ....think the spelling is right, may be in future 🤔. Nice one followed the ch long time now and always like it, you have always take time to respond. And content always interesting.👍
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
That’s in the works chap!! Another incredible story!
@jonathangalloway6796
@jonathangalloway6796 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@964tractorboy
@964tractorboy Жыл бұрын
I don't think anybody has mentioned the classic video from 2003: Martin Brundle's Supercars. Just search for it. It has the EB110, Enzo, F40, XJ220 and more, driven both on the road and round Oulton Park. Unmissable even today. Martin spoke of the McLaren costing more at £640k, but who's counting? The only car missing was the 959.
@BubuBarong
@BubuBarong Жыл бұрын
Bravo Jack, bel video! Avevi guardato l'intervista di Davide Cironi ad Artioli? Un abbraccio, keep up the good work!
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Certo!! Davide é bravissimo è quella serie di video in particolare sono fantastici! Saluti!
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420 Жыл бұрын
The McLaren F1 sold 103 cars over a period of six years. If all of these customers had bought EB110s instead it would have made no difference to the Bugatti's fate.
@johncharleson8733
@johncharleson8733 Жыл бұрын
No; it's wasn't about total sales, but the comparative vision of what the new hot car should be and how it should look. I remember when that EB110 first appeared--boring, especially with that 'optional' blue colour. The friggn' thing looks like an EV. If the car didn't have an exciting looking competitor (however small in numbers), if the field remained the roughly the same, which it didn't, that boxy looking blue bird may have swayed enough numbers-type guys to open the door for future sales. Bottom line, that car was more of an engineer's wet dream than an exciting piece of rolling art. Boring.
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
As John says below it’s not about total sales.. it’s about the vision of what a Supercar should have been. This should have been the halo Supercar by Bugatti but being completely overshadowed by the F1 meant it became a much harder sell.. it’s not just that the F1 would have taken sales away directly it’s also that this who might have bought it just because it was the best Supercar in the world would no longer have done so.
@elba9066
@elba9066 Жыл бұрын
@@Number27 Yes: "who might have bought it just because it was the best Supercar in the world would no longer have done so." And therefore turned to the other makes you mentioned
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 Жыл бұрын
Gordon Murray working from the Colin Chapman principle that, while a powerful engine makes you faster on the straights, light weight makes you faster everywhere.
@dedeoglu1923
@dedeoglu1923 Жыл бұрын
The car I had on posters on my walls as a teenager. Not to mention the 1:24 Bburago in blue :)
@MrJdubbya36
@MrJdubbya36 Жыл бұрын
Got to go on a tour of the old factory with a group while on a car stuff tour in the early 2000's. It was sad but still fun to see. There were still parts there, still plans laying around. Still tooling and other stuff. AND....they had the last car they had just finished putting together, I think it was an SS. I think it was what B engineering or something by then, former employees just finishing up what they had left.
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Very cool! Thanks for sharing!
@Cydney1066
@Cydney1066 Жыл бұрын
Saw one at a dealership in West Palm Beach back in the day. I thought it looked "dumpy". That being said it was gone 2 days later. Never did see it on the street though. Thanks for the presentation keep up the good work👍
@lebojay
@lebojay Жыл бұрын
It probably hasn’t driven a mile since you saw it. Sad.
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Thank you buddy!!
@jameslatimer1432
@jameslatimer1432 Жыл бұрын
Cool vid 😎 👌
@simonelliott5956
@simonelliott5956 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video Jack! I’ve always loved the EB110, it seemed a bit of a quirky shape, having been born of multiple designers, including Gandini, Benadini and Stanzani, fuelled by Artioli’s insistence on making changes. Nevertheless the shape, whilst not beautiful was purposeful and some how hasn’t aged as much as some of its contemporaries.
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Hey Simon.. apart from the back I actually rather like it!
@simonelliott5956
@simonelliott5956 Жыл бұрын
@@Number27 The rear lights remind me of the Lancia Beta Coupe’s back lights, the rear is definitely the weakest angle.
@sammygirlie345
@sammygirlie345 Жыл бұрын
Class video as always
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Sam!!
@rhettcorcoran2879
@rhettcorcoran2879 Жыл бұрын
Another fascinating video.
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Thanks old boy!
@shabbos-goy9407
@shabbos-goy9407 Жыл бұрын
Great essay Jack
@christophecamus3295
@christophecamus3295 Жыл бұрын
Great video,very good 👍 👏
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Christophe!
@dadcars
@dadcars Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this 👏 I always thought it looked like an Aldi Diablo 🤓 I’m sure it’s a super cool car though
@edwri9759
@edwri9759 Жыл бұрын
Hello Jack, thanks for this video, always loved the EB110. I use to enjoy racing RC buggies, what models are the 2 behind you on the left?
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
RC10 and PB Maxima!
@HotTakeHQ
@HotTakeHQ Жыл бұрын
@@Number27 same! ❤
@JakeM218
@JakeM218 Жыл бұрын
Crazy to think VW have sold Bugatti to Rimac! Next models have been confirmed to be hybrid. Mixture of the best combustion engines with what’s viewed as one of the top players in the electric powertrain game.
@TheChill001
@TheChill001 Жыл бұрын
they haven't actually sold it btw, it's now a co-operative, in order to lower the costs of production and to be able to tap into Rimac's expertise.
@MarcoMenozziPro
@MarcoMenozziPro Жыл бұрын
The direct legacy of Ettore Bugatti is Maserati. Bugatti had a strong partnership with Diatto, the Turin-based company of which Alfieri Maserati was team manager. The first Maserati cars were Bugatti.
@jankundert4353
@jankundert4353 Жыл бұрын
Jack, thanks for the video. However, correction is needed in regard of the commercial success of the F1 compared to the EB110. Overall, there were only 106 McLaren F1s produced, ever. Thereof 78 road-going and 28 FIA race cars. Besides that there were 6 prototypes. On the other hand there were 96 EB110 GT and 32 EB110 SS produced. After its bankruptcy, Jochen Dauer acquired all the parts and tools of the company and build another 6 or 7 EB110 SS „Dauer“. It‘s pretty known that the failure was mainly driven by unfair competitive behavior of its main rivals, pressure on suppliers, sabotage and the like and only partially by unadapted economic steering. It‘s really a pity the car didn’t get more appreciation for a long time. It‘s only 2 or 3yrs ago, when Bugatti „accepted“ the EB 110 as a true Bugatti in their heritage, leading to the values skyrocketing. Before, EB110s could be acquired for around EUR 300k, whilst they go for up to 2m nowadays.
@martinhogg5337
@martinhogg5337 Жыл бұрын
Great talk! Lots of interesting points made. Timing and looks were as you say the likely problems with this car. It lacked the sleekness of the Jaguar 220, the ground breaking attributes of the McLaren or even the beauty of a Ferrari. Just a bit dull from what I have seen. Perhaps it looks better in the flesh! A real pity it failed.
@godwindracing6056
@godwindracing6056 Жыл бұрын
The XJ220 took years to sell, there was a failed lawsuit by disgruntled customers who wanted their deposits back
@tumslucks9781
@tumslucks9781 Жыл бұрын
@@Beauloqs The rear three quarter aspect was fine. Head one it looked like a squashed bug.
@ryanmccormick2150
@ryanmccormick2150 Жыл бұрын
Loved that Jack 👍
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Thanks old boy!
@djdrastic1
@djdrastic1 Жыл бұрын
The SS version looks the business.
@kirisgarage8590
@kirisgarage8590 Жыл бұрын
Favourite kind of videos 👍from longtime I’ve been working out why today the McLaren f1 is 20 times more expensive than the EB110 but never got the right answer ….. I think the Bugatti deserves much more because even how you said .. it’s entirely made in the factory ( we not going to mention the F1 side mirrors from Corrado and E36 indicator switch ) 👍
@zekvuc6552
@zekvuc6552 Жыл бұрын
1. 3 people in mclaren f1 is 50 per cent more 2. no turbos just pure power 3. winner at 24h lemans destroying all racing develop cars 4. central seat like formula 1 pure feeling 5. 391 km/h top speed 6. ... etc ...
@k-mc94
@k-mc94 Жыл бұрын
@@zekvuc6552 All good points, the fact it beat not only the other cars in its class but also the prototypes at Lemans 1995, i dont think this has ever been done since.
@godwindracing6056
@godwindracing6056 Жыл бұрын
The biggest reason why it failed was its lack of dealer/distributor network and Artoli’s arrogance. According to Autocar, circa April 1992, in order to buy one, Artoli expected people to make a phone call to his office in Italy. He was against the idea of having distributor network
@jameslovell863
@jameslovell863 Жыл бұрын
Off topic but cant help notice the gold pan rc10 and pb maxima in the background. There is a national vintage rc meeting this coming weekend at Broxtowe club Nottingham that might be of interest.
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Ah thanks James.. I’ll look into it but don’t think I can make it
@jameslovell863
@jameslovell863 Жыл бұрын
@@Number27 Iconic rc on face book.
@henryleroux8768
@henryleroux8768 Жыл бұрын
FROM SOUTH AFRICA --- I ENJOYED THIS ONE !
@jonfrank2566
@jonfrank2566 Жыл бұрын
My father had an EB110. Drove pretty much the last one out of the factory as the administrators were driving in. He was fortunate to have had a few supercars in his time. He never really rated the Bugatti. He drove his cars hard but found it a bit soulless. Different cars float different people's boats, but he moved it on after about a year. I remember the outside styling was OK ( it certainly garnered attention ) but the interior was very poor and, as mentioned, luggage space was non-existant. That said, I think the reason they failed was more to do with the market at the time. The F1, 220 and many others all struggled as the market for supercars pretty much collapsed. Probably a foretaste of things to come....
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jon and great to hear from someone with direct experience of these cars! Not surprised the interior wasn’t great.. but you have to compare to other supercars of the time which were just as bad!
@godwindracing6056
@godwindracing6056 Жыл бұрын
Was this true that he would make a phone call to Italy to order one, according to an article in Autocar, circa April 1992
@mach1mustangguy992
@mach1mustangguy992 Жыл бұрын
Always loved this car. Had a poster of a silver one on my wall
@philippruest5577
@philippruest5577 Жыл бұрын
EB110 was rather eclipsed on track by XJ220 and the even quicker 5 year old F40. Direct comparison test by ... Michael Schumacher! Diablo and a 381 hp 911 turbo were the slowest.
@robertvanzant2653
@robertvanzant2653 Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I remember seeing Michael Schumacher driving his EB110 I think I was yellow. Out of this world compared to my dads Nissan bluebird 1.8l SLX !
@bugattieb110ss
@bugattieb110ss Жыл бұрын
You could have finished off the video with an epilogue about Dauer and the Edonis which both used EB110 chassis from the bankruptcy sale. I believe Dauer built 6 cars with all carbon fibre bodywork and c700bhp.
@robertlloyd7493
@robertlloyd7493 Жыл бұрын
What a great item thanks 👍
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Gland you enjoyed it, thanks for watching
@Kellsboro
@Kellsboro Жыл бұрын
A US market compliant EB 110 was in the works and dealers appointed, but the company collapsed before that was completed. Had Bugatti accessed the market a considerable lifeline would've been thrown. I recall an EB 110 America (used for the US dealer tour) unveiled at the Chicago Auto Show with incredible promise.
@TheChill001
@TheChill001 Жыл бұрын
I actually think that would've been a waste though. The US market in particular is known as sensation buyers, given the timing of the launch and by the time it would actually be available in the US, the F1 would and had already taken the headlines and removed the sensational part of the bugatti. This in turn would make the investment in the US a rather expensive and wasteful affair. It's why there's actually so many brands not available in the US, because though it has the potential for great success and profit, it has an equal, if not much greater potential for expensive and costly failures, not in a small part due to the volatility of the US market, but also the fact that in the end...americans don't have a great feel for sportscars (and can generally be attributed for many good sportsbrands and sportscars ending up as doughy, fat and heavy shadows of their former selves.)
@BennysBenz
@BennysBenz Жыл бұрын
A couple of things at first I thought you got a EB1 which led me to think how does he do it! I know so many collectors etc. and I've never seen one in the flesh. Secondly I've never liked the styling I think that took alot of the desirability away for the car the buzz for the McLaren was crazy whereas I remember the EB1 wasn't the same. I know Gandini had a hand in the design but I'm partial to Pinafarina's design lines i wonder how the car lines would be with a Pinafarina design 🤔 🤷‍♂️
@stephen_graham
@stephen_graham Жыл бұрын
Is that an Team Associated rc10 behind you? You should do a video on your RC car collection
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 Жыл бұрын
I've always liked the look of eb110. it's so 90s
@enigmatwist6548
@enigmatwist6548 Жыл бұрын
It’s not a gorgeous car but like the F1 it’s got a stumpy aesthetic that has its own appeal. I dig it.
@ducsauce
@ducsauce Жыл бұрын
❤️ the Gold pan and PB Maxima!
@k-mc94
@k-mc94 Жыл бұрын
You said this had the first production carbon fibre chassis, i think the Jaguar Sport XJR15 got there first.
@timgosling6189
@timgosling6189 Жыл бұрын
Comparing weight with the Diablo, remember the 110 was also 4-wheel drive. And original Bugattis were actually renowned for their lightness; it was EB who called the LM Bentleys 'the fastest lorries in the world'! The XJ220 was expensive in terms of list price, but of course there was the whole financial crisis going on which left customers taking them to court because the car wasn't the 4WD V12 they'd ordered, or because they no longer had the money, or both. I don't have stats on actual prices paid but Jag was eventually shoving them out the door for under £130k, a 75% discount. I looked over the EB110 when it first appeared at the British Motor Show and in that iconic french blue it was a fine looking thing, although the wooden dash looked a bit incongruous. It was a shame it didn't do well but I think you're absolutely right: it was just bad timing. The world was in meltdown and to sell 130 odd was actually quite an achievement; McLaren as you say made only 106 F1s and Jaguar took 6 years to shift all 275 XJ220s, losing a shed-load doing it. But overall I'm with you, Gordon's approach with the F1 has to be the better one: a rapier rather than a behemoth.
@godwindracing6056
@godwindracing6056 Жыл бұрын
The XJ220’s retail price was around £350k, the £150k as claimed was for the few unsold cars in 1997
@timgosling6189
@timgosling6189 Жыл бұрын
@@godwindracing6056 The stated retail price was index linked and peaked at £475k.
@SoundtrackAudioCom
@SoundtrackAudioCom Жыл бұрын
A supercar should be bedroom wall poster worthy ... the EB110 just looked clonky with the whiff of kit-car about it's looks and who's going to pay that much for a supercar that's been hit with the ugly stick?
@davec1942
@davec1942 Жыл бұрын
I'd say the EB110 is engineered to a point, then finished off, the interior, body and weight all scream "can't be bothered" after the hours and hours poured into designing the engine. The F1 on the other hand is engineering perfection, from bumper to bumper. If you could afford a EB110 at launch, you could afford an F1, F40, XJ220, 959, which very few people are able to find fault with. Thanks Jack, keep em' coming.
@enigmatwist6548
@enigmatwist6548 Жыл бұрын
I personally think the EB110 has a nicer interior than all those cars you mentioned. Jag was lovely but had many faults not least it’s size. The 959 isn’t as exciting as many people expect and the driving experience isn’t that dissimilar from other far more mundane Porsches (for the most part). The F40 is incredibly basic inside and is more of a track car than anything else. Yeah F1, I’ve got nothing except the insane valuations. The SS EB110 is especially nice and had ironed out many of the kinks of the original car but I’d still rather have an F1. However I’d choose an EB110 SS over the others.
@aussiebloke609
@aussiebloke609 Жыл бұрын
To me, the EB110, and the more recent Veyron and Chiron models, feel like the successors to the Porsche 959 (and so, doubly fitting that they are under the VAG umbrella nowdays.) A super-sportscar, with turbos, AWD, active suspension, computer modules galore, A technological tour de force, fast without fuss...but in some ways, thought of as soulless, passionless, with the driver too many steps removed from the mechanicals. And the F1was anything but...a raw, driver-focused machine with the absolute minimum of technology getting in the way of the driver and their trouser seat. And while the tech is probably better for the average driver, so many of us still dream of being Fangio in a previous life. 🙂
@standingbadger
@standingbadger Жыл бұрын
Still my favourite Bugatti today.
@sainta2667
@sainta2667 Жыл бұрын
Always loved the EB110 ; So beautiful , so special - Looks so much better the current 'Super cars '. Hands down over the F1.
@nickblacksoul4318
@nickblacksoul4318 Жыл бұрын
Well I remember i didn't really want it in my collection because it was kinda funny didn't look slick like a xj220 a bit agly , but I think it most failed because it was kinda unknown car you never heard about it, no one talked about it ,it didn't feature in any came and not in many magazines and didn't get evolutions like the Lamborghini
@jonathancarson1974
@jonathancarson1974 Жыл бұрын
It was a reimagined brand, and existed in a no man's land ( along with the xj220) , between normal supercars ....and the F1, which was in a league of one. If you could afford an EB or Jag you could either likely stretch to an F1, or just stick to the "usual " supercars from Ferrari/ Lamborghini etc ..
@catscanswim6805
@catscanswim6805 Жыл бұрын
Ettore once called Bentleys the fastest trucks in the world, which makes me wonder what he'd think of the EB110.
@catscanswim6805
@catscanswim6805 Жыл бұрын
Said EB110, obviously meant Veyron/Chiron. D'oh.
@joaomonteiro1258
@joaomonteiro1258 Жыл бұрын
Jack, you must purchase your first electric car soon (second hand) and help us in the transition. I already have a Prius Plug In and love it, astonishing car. Next (for the wife) it will be a full electric second hand and I am counting on you mate for help ;) Cheers!
@superseven7947
@superseven7947 Жыл бұрын
I think I once read that during testing the melted they manifolds on it!!
@the5th2000
@the5th2000 Жыл бұрын
Look up the B Engineering Edonis..... reengineered EB110 with higher output and RWD, still in production....
@garrygooderham9005
@garrygooderham9005 Жыл бұрын
What is the red rc buggy in the background? I keep being distracted by it
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
PB Maxima! Very rare old racing buggy
@jdesmo1
@jdesmo1 Жыл бұрын
110 always was my favorite supercar, and the story of it's creation is still amazing on so many levels. Certainly the EB110 is so much better than modern VW version. The F1 is amazing, but everyone is drawn to it like drunken flock of sheep.
@tumslucks9781
@tumslucks9781 Жыл бұрын
Quite the contrarian aren't you? What do you drive, a unicorn?!
@danbrown4517
@danbrown4517 Жыл бұрын
I worked at Lotus Engineering and my boss left to go to Bugatti to work on the EB-110...
@VoloKinProject
@VoloKinProject Жыл бұрын
I think the main factors are the recession and the fact that there weren't that many millionaire car guys at the time. I like it a lot btw.
@paulallen8109
@paulallen8109 Жыл бұрын
The recession is THE fact. It didn't only affect Bugatti. Jaguar had to sell many XJ220 at discount prices and to all kinds of half-shady finance groups. Yamaha cancelled their planned OX99 supercar (which actually used a detuned version of the company's Formula 1 V12 engine). McLaren barely sold 70 cars and Gordon Murray was forced to develop the GTR racing version (despite originally saying he'd never develop a racing variant) too boost sales to over 100. Lamborghini was in such dire straits Chrysler sold them to Malaysia's Megatech corporation - which btw was owned by the son of Malaysia's infamous dictator Suharto. Heck Ferrari were still selling the old Testarossa in 1994 (albeit slightly modified) which was 10 years old and totally outdated, its chassis being based on the even older 365GT4/BB which had been designed back in 1971. Another factor was that the "exciting new markets" such as Russia, the emerging Asian economies and China didn't yet exist as important markets. They do today. Koenigsegg for instance reveals than more than half of all their manufactured cars are allocated to SouthEast Asia. Without that market they'd probably wouldn't have stayed in business.
@VoloKinProject
@VoloKinProject Жыл бұрын
@@paulallen8109 interesting insite, thank you.