The chaos gods aren’t even worthy of fighting them.

Tzeentch and Khorne don't really exist, it's just Gork and Mork tricking Humies and Eldar to worship them.

That's not how waagh energy works

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​@@MrHammy69 gorgeous isn't that sneaky. Its unorky.

Tbh the list is bullshit, most of those creatures never had a given length, komus is a stellar phenonmenon, the video is just bad and lazy clickbait

Pretty much

we do not know how much of Tyranids are there as the lore on the matter is really old and bound to be retconned

@@alterego9082 They have explored this in the Tyranid novels over recent years and the inescapable conclusion is that the Tyranids we have seen are a fraction of the whole :)

the hive mind as a whole is huge, but saying that spans multiple galaxies is a bit of a stretch, since it is just a theory that it is surrounding the Milky Way, and it's not even close to do it yet, even though it is a rather small galaxy

damn how does that work

@@thehoffmeister9277 40k Writers: 🤷‍"I don't know but it makes him sound cool so I'm doing it"

@@kingofmilfgaard7604 one of the best parts about 40k is nothing is canon.. but everything is canon..

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I still think it’s a major failing of GW that Gork and Mork have no canon interactions with the other gods, even if it was just trolling them and making fun of how inferior they are.

​​​@@AFMR0420 Yeah that is unfortunately how bad and disconnected and how undercontructed much of the lore is when it come to these beings GW have created and just refuse to build upon and adapt them. So far Gork and Mork's biggest recent activities have been based around Ghazghskull so far. And we seen how much they messed up the Eldar plot line. Their narrative has been pretty poorly constructed.

I think The Outsider is the last remaining intact C’Tan. It resides in a massive Dyson Sphere that it supposedly built.

@@Creshex8 That's the dyson sphere larger then even the interior of the Forerunner Shield world called Onyx if I recall right?

The chaos gods can be scaled to outerversal in strength if not boundless to neigh omnipotence, the eldar gods would also scale somewhat below them (including khaine as the chaos gods never really use their full strength like ever even against each other) so the ctan who in their metal bodies can fight eldar gods should also scale around those levels But a safer scaling would be multi galatic to multiversal since the ctan can somewhat stop the warp with the creation of the necrons pylons

Wow, now I know they're NOT warp spawn, but CAN enter the warp. THANKS for sharing that INFORMATION with US.

That was brought up in some old lore where the imperial xenobiologists were struggling to explain where all the mass went, as the hive fleet couldn't have transported more than a tiny fraction of the amount taken. Their best guesses were either that the tyranids were somehow shipping it off somewhere, or that they were dumping it into the warp for some unknown reason.

@@Arson2Fire In this comparison literally loses logic, because the Fenrisian Kraken is literally a Tyranid ship, and not even an advanced Hive Ship, but most likely some of the smaller ships, and which simply adapted to live in the oceans of Fenris instead of the cosmic void, and you want to tell me that will it be larger than the Hive Ships that hold billions armies and Norn Queens? It's just devoid of logic.

This image is Spawn of Tzeentch concept art on Warhammer Online.

By far

The Hive mind is a synaptic intelligence of all bioforms

@@nutbug445 I might as well say that you are a colony of unicellular with synaptic connections. There is no tyranid collective, there is one being.

@@nutbug445 Nope, it's not. At least in the french versions of the codex, it's made really clear that the hive mind is a separate entity, that tyranids and this... godly thing? ... are working together but are not the same.

The Chaos gods were more powerful than the aeldari gods that's for sure.

@Nutbug yes I know, but not all of them. As was mentioned by some of the people below in the comments, we can assume, that Khaine ain't a weak god. Also we know that there's a god of death, and an alive god that helps Harlequins.

from what i know of the lore, this is the order i'd put them in: the old gods: not actual gods but a hyper-advanced civilisation, as a faction they were orders of magnitude more powerful than the existing factions in current 40k. It's fair to say as a full civilisation they would have been able wipe out peak humanity without breaking a sweat, emps included, but are at the bottom of this list on an individual level (but would still be relatively godlike to most beings in current 40k). Gork/Mork: as far as i know it's questionable as to whether they actually.... "exist"? in the current lore of the 40k universe? they certainly don't seem to display any real power in the physical plane of the setting that can't be explained by other means. Emperor of mankind: Emps as he has existed is relatively weak on this power scale, even pre-horus heresy, The main difference between him and most entities on this list is that he is able to bring to bear his full power on the physical plane of the setting, while the chaos gods and Aeldari gods can only ever exert a fraction of their power over the physical realm (outside places like demon worlds, but even on the vast majority of those they are limited). while obviously still a godlike entity in his own right, a lot of the things you might attribute to him directly in current 40k lore (besides the stuff that's obviously him, like the astronomican) are either more the result of the combined gestalt of human consciousness within the warp (not on the same level as the orks, but similar) or possibly him directing the flow of that (for stuff like living saints). It is worth noting that the Emperor is *not* a warp god, he does not draw directly draw power from combined gestalt intent, and that it's pretty widely believed that if the Emperor ascended to be a full on warp entity he'd be at the top of this list being able to channel the full power of the human gestalt. C'tan: a full C'tan is definitely in full on god power territory, AND it can bring its full power to bear on the physical plane. Earlier lore would have us believe that Emps was able to beat a whole one due to the imprisoning of the void dragon on mars by him, but now we know that was likely just a large shard of it, and only a fraction of the full ctan's former power. Aeldari gods: The Aeldari gods are sorta your measuring stick for a warp god. I'd prolly be judging Gork/Mork on this level too if they, yknow, actually did anything in the lore. Able to put up a decent fight but ultimately lose against the chaos gods. The Chaos gods: due to the nature of their existence the chaos gods are almost literally timeless and are fed and empowered by the existence of nearly every being with a soul within the 40k universe. there is no being that has existed in the 40k universe that could defeat them on a playing field that they can bring their full power to bear on, such as a deep eye of terror demon world under their full control. (the tyranid hive mind is hard to judge, it's definitely above emps and definitely below the chaos gods but beyond that i couldn't say)

@@nickq8093 it's not just the 40k universe that fuels them it's infinite universes and timelines They completely transcend reality Being outerversal at bare minimum

The chaos Gods in the lore are basically completely immeasurable. None of the other beings in the warhammer cosmology even come close. They transcend basically all dimensionality, exist not only beyond time altogether but also beyond any quantifiable scale or scope. Imagine 1 universe, from the beginning to the end, each different instant within this universe leads to their own timeline, then from the first beginnings of that universe to the end of it all the different timelines which exist within that span. Each of those timelines is basically a universe of it's own, despite it all stemming from the same universe. This by itself would create a nigh infinite amount of universes. Then there exist an infinite amount of universes, each with their own nigh infinite timelines. Together these form a greater whole, like a multiverse. A single being which exists outside of all this infinity would be beyond time and space as we see it. Rather than having different versions of itself in all the infinite timelines and universes, there exist just one being on a scope beyond each individual timeline. This being would be multiversal, and it's power would easily be such that it can create and destroy universes and even infinite timelines with it's thoughts. However, that multiversal being is simply part of a larger scale, the multiverse with the infinite universes and timelines therein forms a structure of its own, and these multiversal structures there too exist an infinite amount of throughout the cosmos. The multiversal beings which exist in the dimension above these multiverses, they too exist within a scale, part of a structure/dimension, namely this would be considered a 6th dimensional being, existing within a 6th dimensional space, which is infinitely greater than the 5th dimensional multiversal space from before. Each dimension above is infinitely greater than the one preceding it. There are basically uncountably infinite of such dimensions, each one infinitely larger/higher than the previous. Beyond all that infinity upon infinity, there exist the outerversal, something which is qualitatively beyond any dimensionality whatsoever. The chaos Gods, exist on that scale. Beyond any and all dimensionality. The warp itself actually encompasses all of this dimensionality preceding it, being outerversal in itself, and still extends beyond. While the chaos Gods actually exist even beyond the warp itself, basically unquantifiable in any way and practically immeasurable. They do not depend on any power from any beings, but rather, all beings on lower dimensions who are infected by them simply become a part of their being, they are effectively assimilated within it, as are the many infinities which exist through the warp. The chaos Gods just pervade through all this space in all directions as they fight against each other perpetually, all other beings are simply caught in the crossfire between these entities, and the so called servants they have are nothing more than beings infected by an infinitesimal part of the influence from the chaos gods, driven to act based on the influence pervading their entire soul and existence. The power of the chaos gods is completely transcendental, existing everywhere at all times and beyond time, subsuming all things. The only reason not all things are yet taken over completely by them is because the 4 chaos gods vie against each other perpetually, thus not one can ever take the upper hand and assimilate all existence, as they are equivalent in power by the very nature of their being. If every there is anything which annoys them so that they will bring their full attention to it, whatever it is, would be destroyed in an instant. However, they really aren't bothered by much, and aren't concerned by small things such as the imperium of man in the 40k universe, or the orks, or aeldari or any other beings we see in the lore, as they are completely infinitesimal compared to the chaos gods, even in their most powerful manifestations. Time also is of no consequence to them, as they exist outside of any time scale, and such it doesn't matter if it takes millennia or even trillions of years, or even an infinity of eons for a universe to be subsumed in the warp, as from their perspective any quantity of time is literally nothing at all. They also are in no rush any way, since this too is inconsequential to them.

My knowledge of the lore is pretty slim, but isn't there a hypothesis that the hive mind doesn't exist as a separate entity and that it's just the combined minds of every Tyranid organism that gives the appearance of some greater power steering them? Like a highly advanced, psychic version of ant pheromones.

The hive mind has always been described as beeing the collective thoughts of the tyranids, there's no main hive mind

@@MrGuana141 I did hear of a description that does imply a single, inconceivable controller behind the Tyranids during either the Battle for Macragge or Baal, I can't remember which. But it's first person and I guess could be argued away as imagination. I also vaguely remember a short story from one of the 90s rule books that had an inquisitor study a Tyranid weapon and when he touched it he saw the hive mind before it made him turn the weapon on himself. But a bunch of the stuff from the 90s has been retconned, so 🤷‍♂.

If it''s a true hive mind then it isn't a separate entity. If it's a puppet mind, like every single show and book and game and whatnot are obsessed with, then it depends.

It could be a norn queen

Probably a lack of good artistic depictions. He didn't include the greater daemon of Tzeentch, Ghargatuloth, either, and that appeared as a tower of screaming faces taller than a Hive Superior. (From Ben Counter's _Grey Knights_ novel.)

@@johnduquette7023 yeah, never found any depictions of the nor' queens sadly :(

Halo Array has a striking range of 10,000 light years. It is a weapon based on Neural Phisics. It doesn't anhilate organics, it destroys complex molecular life forms. Meaning up to an including Space Whales are getting dusted. C'Tan on the other hand are sentient energy so I am not sure if Halo will hurt them. Chaos Gods are definitly shrugging it off. It might be interesting to see a Total War between prime Forerunners and Chaos Gods :D

@@zhangeldy4097 Chaos gods however need people who's intentions and actions are based on their doctrines. Without them their power is significantly reduced. And the Forerunners would likely be more then intelligent enough to know the kind of liars they are. Plus they have all the power they ever needed. Forerunners I also hear even harnessed power from other universes to power their structures up casually. And stuff like Binary are considered very primitive to their current technology tier.

Bro you don't know how OP the Void Dragon Is

@@MrSwccguy What do you? I gave it the credit it justly deserves. Who are you to determine I didn't when I clearly I have in another comment scaling it above the Chaos gods during the War in Heaven. If anything if you are thinking the Forerunners and Culture are weak by War In Heaven standards then you don't know how op they are in their verses and the powers and scale they have. They are both stronger then the Dark Age of Technology.

Considering the forerunners are brain-dead they just die

2-3m ?

@@louisturok2344 that actually sounds about right

It depends. Usually Demonettes are the size of humans, but their appearance often changes to whatever appears beautiful to the viewer. Eldar, who are taller and skinnier than humans, would view Demonettes as taller and skinnier. The other demons are generally around 6 to 7 feet tall. Again, their size can vary depending on how powerful the demon is or if the demon has possessed a mortal and is bound by the mortal's physical form.

I don’t think the tyranids use the warp

@@tennesseedogpack "Void Whales tend to swim across the blackness of space, sometimes also navigating the unnatural tides of the Warp." From the Lexicanum. Seems they can use both.

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