At this point, even Mario and Luigi can't beat Tim's mustache girth

The most important question is: When can we expect a "Mustache on Box" T-shirt?

Not sure whats better, the info the video provides or your bangin mustache. Love the great videos! Keep up the hard work!

At this point it's clear: Tim has actually been Dr. Robotnik all along!

Im a competitive player, and latency is the most important thing to me and most everyone I know. I understand its fairly irrelevant for most players, but it would be nice to see latency metrics in your optimizing guides, even for single player games. A lot of us like to keep settings on high for single player content, but dont want to destroy our muscle memory when we come back to compete. In that way, measurements like this for all games are incredibly important. I wish that tool was free to buy so we wouldnt have to rely on you to do these measurements

expectation: tech video reality: M O U S T A C H E

Still no steaks? I'm out.

15:58 'Overall, nvidia's reflex ecosystem is kind of a tale of two separated butt related entities.' Hihi

That moustache tho, if this keeps up one day I am gonna tune in for a video and see Micah

Thank you for the extensive testing on various systems.

Hello Tim, can you make a comment on how this compares to Radeon Anti-lag?? I think it would be good to know the difference for gamers choosing between brands. Thank you!

5:20 Yes!!!! Can't wait to see the review for this monitor!!!!

Man that food analogy made me hungry

Every time I see that Mustache, I keep expecting Tim to begin singing like the Village People. "Macho macho man. I want to be, a macho man." 😂❤👍

Love the video, while I know this is targeting Reflex it would've been nice to see comparison data points for 5700s and anti-lag in a FPS normalized scenario. To compare input delay among different architectures.

15:27 this monitor's image looks so good while filming! Makes me wonder if the capture was edited on top of it

Now if only I can take care of my brain latency when playing fps, especially on certain days XD

Why am I expecting Tim to whiplash me with his mullet any moment!

Does this actually make the game run smoother also or does it only help with input response time?

Yeah it's time for the Chopper glasses Tim :D

20:40 "...a moustache feature"

So after watching the video I am left wondering if frame times increase when using reflex. You would need per frame render times to look at this properly though and I know this isn't something you guys do. Plus there would be a question of if there is more of a delay between a game engine getting information from a packet and when that gets displayed. That sounds really hard to test. So while I feel this is questionable with online competitive titles I bet this feels nice if you're playing a single player game that is demanding and running poorly because it would increase responsiveness.

I have a 1080ti and wasn't planning upgrading just yet but after hearing about dlss giving an fps boost I've been wondering if dlss is sometjing competitive fps players would want to use? Can't find a straight answer online

Should I turn nvidia low latency off in nvidias control panel? Or should I have these both on. Not sure if there’s an auto override or not. On modernwarwfare.

I've been watching you forever.... it's so hard to watch you being serious with that mustache. I keep expecting you to laugh out loud at any moment. It's amazing.

So... Is News Corner now officially known as "Newstache?"

Thank you for the thorough testing that includes both Reflex ON and ON + Boost. I'm curious if there are any games or scenarios out there where On + Boost provides actual additional benefits.

I appreciate that you took a look at both features from a practical viewpoint, not just a technical viewpoint. It makes sense that Nvidia or AMD can't really do much more in CPU bound scenarios. This does really highlight the importance of APIs like Vulkan, well written game engines like idTech and the work developers put into optimising their games; that's where you sometimes see one game stand out either positively or negatively.

I think it would be really interesting to test Nvidia Reflex against Battle(non)sense's finding that going just slightly under 100% GPU usage can massively improve input latency. Nvidia Reflex arguably still gives Nvidia GPUs an edge over Radeon in that Reflex will allow you to use 100% of your GPU and still get latency improvements. But for Radeon users, it would be interesting to see if capping GPU usage to just 95-98% can yield similar latency numbers to Reflex.

I'm curious what the latency is like with v-sync. Reflex sounds amazing for people who use backlight strobing.

How is this compared to Radeon anti lag? In both features, game title support and performance? (maybe do some tests later when Navi 2 comes out?)

Sorry, I'm not sure what you were talking about as that pron stache had me confused. I kept waiting for the hirsute 80's starlets to make an entrance. In the afterlife Harry Reems applauds your tribute...

How would the latency outcome change if I put in a better CPU that instead of running my gpu at 80% in a game would run it at 100%? For example, it gets from 70 fps -> 80 fps. Is the reflex induced latency then significantly lower say 100ms -> 50ms even though without reflex it would not be much of a difference?

6:14 12ms reduction? Its 22ms actually. :) So a 41% reduction vs. ~22%.

I'd love to see a latency comparison with the new AMD cards if it's possible.

You can do this by making an app in visual studio or autohotkey, searching the pixel you want then comparing with key press..?

That stash needs his own show.

hi :) do we know how this $2000 feature compares to radeon anti-lag?

Does Reflex On have any negative effect on frame rates or frame times? I think a lot of people want to know this and were expecting it to be touched on as a possible "catch".

*Tim:* Welcome back [pause] to Hardware Unboxed. *KZfaq Auto-Caption:* You win this round.

Is that Merv Huges in the thumb? 🤣

What about streaming with NVENC encoder, doesn't reflex make more sense in this case with a 1 PC Streaming Setup?

isn't AMDs Anti-Lag pretty much the same thing? www.amd.com/en/technologies/radeon-software-anti-lag

Can you share Windows and Nvidia settings for Low latency? Are you using Windows built-in Graphics settings as well?

I wonder how frame rate limiters play into this, would be interested to see some testing on this.

I'll be honest, that's a pretty epic mustache, thinking you should fill in the rest with an epic beard 😎

I would like to see, how much Reflex improves the latencies against things like an ingame frame rate limit or an driver frame rate limit. I limit the frame rate in latency sensitive games roughly to the 1%tile with an ingame limiter or radeon Chill.

The mustache has Tim

Looking more like Merv Hughes everyday😂

Speaking of new bundled technologies: I'm really looking forward to the NVIDIA RTX IO. Will you guys be testing and explaining this when it's possible to do so feasibly?

I see it as a nice feature for completely maxing out your graphics on the new cards and benefitting from lower latency in single player games. Cyberpunk might benefit nicely from this in 4k on the new cards

I playwarzone maxed out in 3440x1440p with a 9900k/2080ti ftw3 and even after this video idk which to select, enabled or enabled + boost? I've had it on +boost since it came out so idk

This moustache needs its own biography, maybe even a movie.

No lag in that 'stache. 💪😁

wow! this is a total game changer, when DLSS and Reflex are paired with a lower end GPU, such as the new 3050, you can seemingly get really good latency and a good quality image, with a high framerate, in a laptop! that's incredible, because most laptops even in the mid+ range are going to be somewhat GPU bound, where this will make the most difference.

Is there any chance we can see latency testing with the new amd cards vs Nvidia's?

Me every time he rattles off a ridiculous monitor or intel part name: "SAY THE WHOLE THING YEAH!"

Oh my god , thats some thicc stash

Pls review the MSI mag g241 monitor next.

I wish they had enabled Freesync support on 900 series too

Nvidia reflex is nothing you couldn't already do yourself by allowing for 10% overhead buffer in games meaning adjust your settings ingame to allow for 90% GPU usage, if you hit 99% usage you get more delay as the render queue fills up. Reflex is slightly better since its doing it at the driver level so you get less GPU resources wasted and its good for lazy people who can't be bothered to do their own tuning.

So Nvidia marketed it towards competitive players but it's really only useful for budget gamers. Great job, Nvidia?

Can You help explain how to run 4k60 freesync monitor? Best to just have it locked to 58fps with RTSS and forced vsync on in nvcp for minimal lag ? I know that with gsync/freesync enabled, vsync just acts to remove tearing and as a backup ceiling

I can also recommend people checking out the Battle(non)sense channel if you want to see more tests on Nvidia Reflex. He did a couple in recent weeks.

Even though it doesn't always work, I'm glad all these companies are striving to deliver the best possible latency improvements.

What about power consumption? Reflex is a neat way of bringing hardware together but not worth locking down and marketing as an exclusive feature. The benefit I see is that this could be more efficient, just in time processing to improve communication for your hardware. If the technology is open and implemented in all games, just a new way to code/create games, it seems like a win.

I just realised halfway through the video that the performance metrics regarding latency were originally implemented in doom 2016 and now in doom eternal.

Welcome back to Mustache Unboxed!

I hope Reflex will be implemented into future titles and not only be in the few titles that have been advertised. (Not like Nvidia PhysX which died sort of quickly)

How do you get 600-1000 fps in Valorant I haven't see the fps cap go over 300 In ranked? but fps can go to 550 in practice mode. my specs RTX 2060 ultra with a r9 3950x

How does this compare to AMD’s Anti Lag? A refresh of that is now in order in the same games

As I don't play any dx12 titles all I got from this vid was the existing feature in the Nvidia panel. But that's fine :-)

Great video thank you. Yet another feature from Nvidia that is only kinda supported if you decide to play the right games that work with it. I also find it funny that everyone is so hyper about getting that extra drop of latency reduction or having a super duper high refresh rate monitor so they can become a good gamer...maybe. Well I play a lot of online games and also play a bit against other players and I do just fine on my 60Hz 60" HDTV at only 1080p using AMD's VSR to upscale rendering to 1440p. I am sure a lot of those I kill pretty easy are on G-sync or Freesync wonder monitors and yet they fall just a squickly as someone does if they have a setup like mine. Here is a hint getting the top of the top end hardware spending big bucks on something like a 360Hz monitor and trying all of the tricks to make your system seem like it is better will not make you a great gamer yes it may help you out somewhat but if you do not have any skills no amount of hardware is gonna make you a wonder child on a battle field. I play all of my games maxed out as far as my system can handle and play at 60Hz and as stated hold my own just fine and I am by no means a great gamer or have mind blowing skills that make me better than anyone else. Stop worrying about squeezing out every last frame and start enjoying those games you paid for just my opinion on all of this. Thanks

thanks for this video. Basically Reflex is more or less useless as competiive player are already playing with low settings. However it was good to know latency gap between ultra vs low settings..:D

I was excited about this tech. But then that most recent clip of BLOPS beta showing a hacker killed multiplayer/competitive gaming for me. The most fun I would have in multiplayer games were in the beta or early release likely because I hadn’t come across hackers. You can downplay my frustration but I’ve already moved on from pvp. You can say there aren’t that many hackers or you never come across them, and thats great, just know that hacks can be very subtle and still give a huge advantage. Looter shooters it is..

so if you see this please do a review on the mpg sekira 500x and try to optimize the cooling with making the top fans exhaust. day 1 of asking

But is it fun to stay at the YMCA?

Tim looking awesome as always

Is this Yosemite Sams Australian cousin

At this point it’s clear: our host Freddie Mercury has been replaced by Hulk Hogan.

Thanks for the video, i am gettinng RTX 3080ti and will be using 12900k processor and from your video i guess it wont give me any Benefit in playing somehow competitively.

Bahaha he looks like he has a mullet in the thumbnail. That and the stache is quite the classic look.

Will game developers implement this feature in a lot of games or will developers think of this a gimmick that's not worth the development time?

Yes, but just remembering what: if your VGA work normally @90%, do not need cap FPS. High FPS + VGA working easy = LESS INPUT LAG. If you have a STRONG VGA and CAP FPS = Will have more Input Lag because will have less FPS allied the Hertz of the your monitor.

Tim: bond villan unboxed! 😀

nice video. I just got ratchet and clank and i have a 1070 my gpu is at 99% and cpu at 50%. i wasnt sure what it did exactly

"And without steak". But there is SO much at stake here!!

Welcome back to Hardware Unboxed. IT'S A ME.....MARIO!

I haven't watched this video but I wanted to mention this before I forgot. I am assuming this is a frame rendering delay technique where frames try to wait for input from the user before getting started......but in an online competitive game(where I assume they're saying this is great) wouldn't it also delay the time it takes for you to actually see what's happening? Like the game engine gets info that Bob came around the corner, but it won't render that frame as quickly as it could because it's waiting for user input. So yeah, maybe from the time it takes for the human to see someone to being able to shoot them it's quicker, but if you add in the time the frame with Bob in it was delayed is it still better? Anyways going to watch the video and see what you guys talk about.

Just because a game supports DLSS 2.0 isn't enough of a reason to turn it on. It really depends what card you're using, what game you're playing, and what resolution your display is. If you're getting a great framerate with DLSS off at your native resolution, then don't use it! All its' going to do is reduce your image quality.

im starting to have a hard time trusting Steve and his less impressive stash

WB Tim, well handled, high bar

Time to go watch the radeon antilag video again to see how this compares

My question is if I leave it ON on the nvidia panel or ULTRA? I have a 2070s and a 5800x, I play in 1080p, games like CS GO, PUBG, COD MW... what is better for latency ?

Gotta admit, I clicked mostly to see how Tim's moustache is coming along... I am not disappointed in the slightest tbh

That mustache is growing into something absolutely glorious, I'm pretty jealous of it tbh. But could it be that the ends are slightly uneven? Something feels a bit off balance. I think this mustache deserves a trip to a barber for absolute studliness.

So good for a 1030 maybe 1050 / 1050ti?

can it work with lg 27850 ?

6:16 That's 22 ms reduction not 12 ms.

15:21 How are the bullets not running out ?????