Hello, 00:00 Windows Boot (First startup after installation - this is very important) 00:36 Driver Installation 02:06 Game Loading Times 02:47 Benchmark Results

the worst part about hdd is even tho the start up time is slow af but even when it boots up u need to wait a couple extra seconds for it to become responsive and usable

everyone: money can't buy you time *money:*

After running a SSD I have wondered how we survived without it. Lol

What's awesome is how (relatively) cheap a SATA SSD is, and it transforms practically any computer into a proper, responsive machine.

imagine saving 1minute every day is like 6hours in a year

The human eye can't see past 500 MB/s

One of the best things you can do to make an old computer faster is replace the hdd with an ssd, it's so good

One of the biggest upgrades you can do to any older PC is a SATA SSD. I've been running them 11 or 12 years now and never looked back except for large volume long term storage/backup (using HDDs).

Conclusion: SSD SATA is actually pretty sweet.

Me: watching this and looking at my 12% health hdd

Man i just gotta say after using hard drive for 20 years and using ssd made my life feel like literal heaven.

Nice video, straight to the point, no talking, easy to understand. You get an A+

Crazy how the SSD SATA has only ~470Mb/s read & write speed at best yet it closely matches the NVMe in these tests.

When you see the Read/Write speeds of the NVMe SSD versus the SATA SSD it's really hard to believe that such a big difference actually results in a really small real-world difference. That, or there is a metric which has been omitted here relating to data transfer size/file size etc.

Im weirdly nostalgic about hdd speeds. Waking up, turning on my computer then making breakfast and watching an episode of some random anime was such a ritual. Now i get pissed when it takes more than 8 seconds to boot up a 150gb game.

1:29 SSD Sata is finished at 3m15s. Timer stops at 3m19s .... DUDE :D

That still took sometime considering its a nvme pcie 4.... Better optimize the windows

Performance - NVMe Price/performance - SSD Capacity - HDD

I remember back when I power up my PC after coming home from work during the single-core era. I hit the power button, take a quick shower and when I sat down, my rig just finished booting. Good times.

2:30 that guy is not well🙄

I love the four-lane side-by-side comparison approach. Well played!

3 years ago I upgrade HDD to SSHD, and then this year upgraded to SSD and then to NVME, wanted even more speed. now system boots so fast, it has to wait for the USB ports to respond before booting.

My jump was from old HDD that took pc 2-3min to be fully responsive, to a nvme ssd that boots up in a few seconds and is responsive immediately. Actually lifechanging

SSHD only performs like that with very light duty, else the tiny cache is purged and overwritten too often and it becomes slow as a regular drive.

Thanks for doing this, I recently went from SATA SSD > NVMe SSD and it feels the same, faster but not a lot faster.

me sitting here waiting for the hdd to complete: 👁👄👁

Going from sata to an nvme ssd felt a lot more substantial that it looks here. It probably has more to do with the whole system change since I went from a 4 to 12 thread CPU.

NVMe PCIe 4.0 or even 3.0 only make sense when you are transferring very large files. This test didn't show that but for example transferring a 100GB folder to another would be much faster than a standard SATA SSD. But for regular everyday computing/gaming, SATA SSD makes more sense for the money.

My advise would be to buy a Sata SSD and save your NVMe slot for the future. Wait a couple years and when games and apps finally fully utilize all that speed, then buy an NVMe SSD which will be faster and much cheaper than the ones today

EVERYONE: Money can't buy you time. Money :

right now I'm rocking my os on an SSD, and all my games on an HDD, seems like the most price to performance combo

I know so much efforts in such videos... Everyone should appreciate it👍👍👍

Nice comparison! When I upgraded from a Corsair Neuron XTI SSD to a Samsung 960 Pro I didn't notice any differences in performance. The benchmark numbers are certainly impressive, but we all know that synthetic benchmarks aren't indicative of real world performance.

Good to know that those of us who don't have NVMEs aren't missing out on anything huge, minus a spare drive bay.

Going from an HDD to NVME can confirm mind was blown .

It looked like to me your SSHD's cache wasn't trained to give any advantage, same goes for the other hd tests you've done

HDD be like: Happy New Year 2019!

my advice: - M.2 NVMe: for OS installation, frequently used applications, possibly for online gaming if you want the fastest go - SSD: most likely for games or video editing - SSHD: (no idea at all) - HDD: for long term storage and backups, regular stuffs like heavy documents etc etc, offline campaign games something

I will never stop using my 5200 RPM HDD it not only humbles me, but also makes me extremely patient.

Remember the SSHD is a HDD with often a 8 GB Solid State caching function, so the first time it will behave exactly like a HDD. Only if you use certain loads more frequently, you start to see an advantage for the SSHD compared to the HDD. If you boot smaller OSes (e.g. Linux) frequently, after a while its boot time will be almost the same as that from a SSD. The whole performance strongly depends on how you use the system and thus how you measure the SSHD performance. You can only test the HDD in real life situations, where you use it for a longer period with the programs you normally use. It takes time for the cache to determine its optimal content! Afterwards you can compare those times with those of HDD or SSD. I did buy an off-lease laptop in 2017 and I also bought a 1TB SSHD. For me it was a good solution. I use Ubuntu (Linux) on the super modern ZFS file system. Everything is lz4 compressed (ratio = ~1.8), so the 8 GB SSD cache would contain 1.8 x 8 = ~14 GB of stuff if decompressed. So the whole OS (1 GB uncompressed after boot) and almost all programs would be stored on the SSD cache, so soon after installation I had close to SSD speeds and 1 TB of storage. For Windows and especially for AAA gaming, that SSHD is not very good, the cache is too small for a much larger Windows without compression. Around 2019 the prices of SSDs became so low, that HDDs nor SSHDs could compete on price/performance in the 250GB to 1TB price range. I will buy another new off-lease laptop in 2021/22, I probably will look for one with a 1TB SSD, but I would be perfectly happy to reuse my 1TB SSHD, if the occasion contained a HDD.

It's not just about time or saving time. But it feel good when your computer starts fast and smooth.. I used to have a Hdd and it was taking about 2 minutes to be ready and it was frustrating, now I have an SSD and it takes 30 seconds, so now I don have that frustration issue when working on the computer.

my 980 pro NVME M.2 PCIe 4.0 SSD needs about 14 seconds until i'm at the windows login screen... where do I lose the 4 seconds? do you have ultra fast boot enabled (so you can't access BIOS/UEFI during start up?

Depending on the NVMe drive, PCIe 3.0 is about 1/2 that of PCIe 4.0. I use NVMe for my system (C:) and often used programs/games. Before that SSD's were used. Videos/pics/other storage is fine for HDD Now, our stories will be "Back in the day, I ONLY had HDD's to boot from and store things...you kids with your new fangled SSD's and NVMe's...."

This is what I'm talking about , people kept testing SSD's with loading times/boot times when they have little to no difference , what we want to see is if you throw a lot of shit in startup programs once bootup see which one finishes loading everything first.

I dont consider windows "booted" until all the starting programs have finishes starting. With a HDD in the past the PC would be unresponsive until this so I wouldn't really call it "booted" until you can actually use it.

It's not about time it's about frustration, my pc went from 3min booting time to 30 seconds. Which just makes me want to use pc. Suggestion is always get a faster and large capacity ssd. If possible go with NVMe. They both cost same at this point😅. (I just found gen3 500GB NVMe for around 25-30usd.)

The SATA HDD you used seem to be quite decent with lot of cache. The last one I used back in 2018 had about 150MB/s read and 90MB/s read.

The more you know: Your CPU actually effects download and installation speeds

the reason sshd's did not stay around long lol

Do bear in mind that hard drives (when running an OS) take a long time to 'warm up' after getting to the desktop. Everything (I repeat, everything) is slow to load -- whether that be programs or icons. Task Manager shows that disk usage is capped at 100% for often over a minute. This is all from personal experience.

"Money can't buy you time" Nvme m.2 and sata ssd: Hold my beer!

SSHD need "training" to know what to cache. The first run or two of anything is no faster than a HDD. Then it know what to cache for fastest times. Ie: Boot 3 times and measure, now as fast as an SSD.

2 to 10 times higher speeds at any section, but still in real life is more like 0.1 oly the advantage of NVMe PCIe vs SSD. What could be the explanation? Motherboards bottleneck between storage and RAM?

I was expecting a more dramatic difference between NVMe and SATA SSDs. I guess it all comes down to the cache (if a piece of data is not in the cache in the NVMe, they're basically as fast) and type of read/write operation (4K reads and writes depend on the memory controller, not the bandwidth)

The test is a little skewed. The SSHD times will go down after a few dozen reboots. The most loaded files get put into the SSD cache. So you will end up seeing times closer to the SSD SATA drive. This also does show the pointlessness of a PCIe gen 4 SSD if you're average joe.

Its like the breaking bad intro vs an anime op

Nvme will be even more useful now when consoles started usiing it and game developers could work their games around Nvme drivers and make games more optimised for them.

So glad I spec'd a 2tb nvme ssd into my new PC build. Not only is it fast, it also is super clean. It plugs right into the motherboard so no sata cables or power cables for the drive.

I'm going to be upgrading from a HDD to a Samsung 980 pro M.2. Hope to see a HUGE difference from a weak HDD to a really fast NVMe!

Hopefully in the future these tests will take 1 second. Wonder what is needed nowadays for PCIE 4.0 to reach it's full potential.

its also depends on what version of windows you using for example windows 10 1511 start up is faster than windows 10 2004

The thing with SSHDs is that they're designed to be faster on subsequent loads, but on the first load they'll be as slow as a normal HDD. A great example of this is when I put a 2TB SSHD in my PS4 and playing Bloodborne, loading the hunter's dream hub area the first time took about 40 seconds, but for the rest of my session, it loaded in 10-15 seconds. They really shine in games like that where you repeatedly load into hub areas or re-use frequently accessed data.

this song is a vibe

Can you put in an IDE HDD. Would be fun to see what pre-2005's people had to deal with ^^

and my computer still opens in 4 minutes

In my case, my pc finishes of starting up in 15 - 17 minutes :(

Yes, old hard disk drives takes 30 seconds to one minute while new solid state drives requires less than 15 seconds to boot up.

Does M.2 vs SATA SSD affect 1% & 0.1% games performances? Future video idea for you.

Window is not optimized to PCIE 4.0 That's why sata ssd and Nvme gives Almost the same velocity But a m.2 avoid using the power and sata conectors

looking at ssd vs nvme, and checking those times, crystaldiskmark does not make sense, most of the test had little differences, and in crystal those numbers says differently

Anyone else just vibing to the music

It's not about the time you save... You avoid frustration using faster memory

I love how this came up as I’m waiting for my pc parts to come in. I’m so glad I got two NVME PCIe4 SSDs

It has been exactly 9 months to this day that I changed my old hdd to a WD SSD and boy I am still happy about my decision each time I boot my laptop. 😋

when you accidentally restart your computer but you have an M.2 card: oh no! anyways..

Hmm, good thing I did not get a M.2 over Sata SSD then. Still, its a slight difference, so in a long running installation process it might mean more, but atm its not really worth it, it seems.

I work for consumer IT and let me tell you man I constantly recommend customers get an SSD. SO many people don't even realize the serious difference of an SSD upgrade and it costs literally 80$ for the geek squad to install it. 30$ for the SSD and 40$ for the installation. The speed increase is up to 16x. The most seriously worth it upgrade and an SSD doesn't just speed up storage speeds, it also speeds up the CPU by reducing the workload needed to read from a physically moving disk and distribute information. The speedup for the CPU is around 20-30%. Absolutely MASSIVE.

2:37 this marine be waiting around for the sshd and hdd to load.

How can there be so little difference between the first 2 when one can read data 10 times faster. The difference between SSD and HDD is huge! and SSD is only about 5 times faster in theroy

If nvme writes, reads around 5k mb/s and ssd only with 500, doesnt that mean that nvme should be better than ssd 10x more?

Wry good side by side comparison. Thank you for sharing this with us.

Two kinds of people...those who use an ssd and those who like watching spinning circles.

I actually wanna see how the new Ryzen generation performs with 4th generation PCie, especially with SAM

My brother has upgraded from HDD sata to nvme ssd. He ascended.

And the difference gets so magnified over time. I'm so happy with my new build!!

What people forget it, that when I'm doing video editing a and transferring gigabytes of footage a m.2 is really nice to have

Time is a confidence trick invented by the Swiss.

For the difference b/w SATA and NVME SSD in time and price, I think SATA is more of a better value

I got a Kingston NV2 PCIe 4.0 NVME M.2 1TB SSD from amazon, and the speeds done well on my Windows 11. Besides, i try with Police Simulator Patrol Officers, and starting the game has work well without issue.

NVME: Me Going bios *10sec later Windows: Hello there

thanks to my new NVMe ssd i can spend my time seeing this video instead of a loading screen! the future is now buddies!

SSD sata is good enough :)

Every big tech youtubers should do a comparison like this when pcie 5.0 ssds come to market

Thank you for testing Breakpoint. I was looking for it.

I would love to see this same video but with nvme Gen 3 vs Gen 4. I know there will likely be milliseconds in it for most things but I'd love to see it.

a moment of silence for hdd users. including myself.

Best test of game loanding are launching Europa Universalis and load game in Civilization 6! 😀

Still, in a power outage the hhd will win at preserving the stored data and that is their true usage.

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