Challenge runs are tight. But he’s not joking about the time consuming part. Good luck to anyone who attempts it!

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I started a jack frost cult in devil survivor having all my demon slots as Jack frost

The minimum battle challenge just sounds like my Tartarus gameplay in P3P

Some ideas: -Nocturne with only your initial Magatama -Any SMT no exploiting weaknesses -SMT but you're a Pokemon Trainer (Only your demons can attack and your protag can only use healing items or support items, kinda like the X Stat items in Pokemon)

Nyarly: *shows dookieshed* Me: that's a person i haven't seen in a long time

P5 Anti-Social Run - No non-story social links - No showtime events - No all out attacks - No batton passes - No momentos quests - Merciless

The devil survivor one honestly doesn’t sound so hard, that game is so customizable You can do anything with any demon basically.

Nocturne, every time you die play until you win a fight in Strange Journey Redux. Every time you die in Strange Journey, look in the mirror for 2 minutes

I played Persona 1 and 2 with base personas because I didn’t like the persona collection systems LOL

pokemon trainer run: the protag can only use items/heal his demons and let the demons do all the fighting. its duable, just hard

Actually, P1 probably would have the easiest "only initial persona" challenge because you can make Seimen Kongou basically the best persona in the game. You can buff his stats with the revive secret ability plus Kongou leveling up all the stats (all 100 stats Kongou baby). And you can fuse him to get some stronger attacks if you can deal with P1 inheritance

I had a thought for Nocturne. Why not make a rule that your three party slots must contain a Law, Neutral, and Chaos demon. It you don't have one of that alignment, then you must leave the slot empty. Another idea was "You may fuse demons at the Cathedral, but you are not allowed to reroll for the skills you want." Once you've decided on a demon you want to fuse, you must take whatever the game gives you for its skills. Once you commit, that's it.

Persona 3, 4, 5 challenge: only AI party members participate in combat. The main character does nothing but issuing commands obviously except direct commands.

An idea i had few months ago was a "normal human" challenge in persona 3/4 Rules : - MC can only use weapons and items - Other party members can still use their persona (or maybe not) - any actions that requires the "skill" input is off limits - you can still equip persona for their resistances, or you can limit yourself by using only your starting persona.

WHOA That’s me!! Thanks for putting my vid here, was cool to see as you were the person who inspired the run to begin with!

There is one challenge that I came up with that I call the “Reload Challenge” that should work for most games. Basically, it is like Nuzlocke with a twist. Each new “dungeon,” you are only allowed to recruit persona or demons in the first 3 fights that you encounter. If you fail to recruit them, then you cannot try again. You must go through the dungeon with the characters you recruited until you beat the dungeon boss. Once you do, all characters must be deleted before or once you enter the next dungeon. If you cannot delete them all, then you must fuse them until only one remains. When and if you recruit the next character, the old one must be deleted. Rinse and repeat until the game is done. It helps keep combat interesting and also prevents over-leveling to win.

... Watching this is like having a series of horrific nightmares described to me Megami Tensei fans really are the most Sado-Maso types out there Here I thought I was cool for just playing SMT IV with a physical build and balanced stats (IE, no dumping 123809231098321809 points into magic to immediately destroy everything in your way)

Beating any SMT game from III to 4 Apocalyspe, but Demons evolve into a completely random demon every time they level up.

The Helltaker Run: -Can only use female chaos-aligned demons (or traditionally chaos aligned demons if the game has no chaos alignment like Nocturne). Can't use male demons at ALL, can't even have them in your party for a second. -Everytime you encounter a female demon (regardless of alignment), you have to try and recruit them, or at the very least resolve the conflict by talking. -Can't kill any female demons, run if you can't talk to them (bosses excluded since it's for plot reasons)

Much like the narrowed down themes (like the "one alignment" one mentioned), I wrote up a One Arcana challenge for the Persona series. You pick an arcana, either randomly or intentionally, and play only with personas of that arcana.

I can see it right now “Countless pixies gathered under Abel... to form an army...”

Oh I got another one. The "no summon is free" challenge : you are not allowed to modify your party outside of battle, you _have_ to use the summon and retreat commands in battle. Harder version : you must return all your demons in the stock after every battle, meaning you need to manually summon any demon every battle.

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Everyone gangsta when Nyarly uploads

Jack Bros only run in any game would be fun. Might struggle with humans only until you get a Jack Frost, but once you get things like Frost Ace and Black Frost it'll be a little smoother.

*Phase Changer Challenge* *This challenge revolves around the Moon/Kagutsuchi phases. -During a Full Moon, you may use a full party in battle. -Waning towards a New Moon, you must use only one party member or demon in battle outside of the protagonist. However, this ally cannot be the same one that was previously used on the waxing phase. -During a New Moon, you are forbidden from using party members or demons aside from the protagonist. -Waxing towards a Full Moon, you must use only one party member or demon in addition to your protagonist. However, this ally cannot be the same one that was previously used on the waning phase. Hard mode additions: -Demon negotiation of any kind is forbidden during a New Moon. If a demon starts negotiations with you first, you must decline their offers to end negotiations ASAP. -Fusion is forbidden during a Full Moon. -Consumable item usage (in and out of battle) is forbidden during any phases between New Moon and Full Moon.

I did have a challenge idea for SMT IV that I have been considering for a while, that challenge is a Semi-Pacifist Run. Here are the rules: Flynn and his demons are not allowed to directly harm demons in any way, this includes: >Any melee attack >Attacking skills (this includes skills like counter and retaliate, can't lash out!) >Poison (probably panic too since i'm pretty sure demons can attack their own party members, but I think that could be up to the runner) >pre-emptive attacks, since attacking an enemy on the field causes a small amount of damage when the battle starts, which is banned However, since you have to kill bosses anyway, what is allowed are: >Partner attacks (you're not the one hurting them, it's your friend who's doing it, no blame on you) >Repel damage (It's the demon's fault they hit into a repel lol. Also Tetrakarn and Makarakarn are allowed because Minotaur is basically impossible otherwise) The fact that you cannot kill any demons directly means that the only ways to get exp are through negotiations, fusions, partner attacks, and repel abuse, and Minotaur will be an absolute pain at the beginning because you need to either grind to the earliest Tetrakarn or try to somehow manipulate skill mutations to give you Tetrakarn early, if that's even possible. this also means that demons that only use instakill and almighty attacks will be impossible to defeat. would this be a fun challenge? probably not honestly, requires a ton of slow grinding, but I guess you could brag about something. also sorry that it was really long. (also the reason why it's semi and not full is that the tutorial forces you to kill demons in the very first encounter + the horde immediately after lel)

How about a One Shot Run on Any Game? Rules: -No Saving -No powering off -Death is permanate -You must play the game, from begining to end. Bonus -Play the game on the highest difficulty -4A must have the annihilation app activated.

Jim Reaper and MasterLL cries in Nocturne Hard Low-Level run, which is essentially the " Minimum Battles " challenge. Edit: It would be cool if you do a Nocturne Hard Low-Level run, Nyarly!

I think a good one for the Digital Devil Saga duology would be what I like to call the "Miser Run", with the ruleset being as follows: 1) You may not spend Macca through any means, except to unlock Mantras. 2) You may not sell any items to the shop. Now, I have not tried this one out yet myself, but given how important Macca is in the DDS games, I imagine that these rules would make one be especially careful about which Mantras to go for and when, since Macca would be a lot more hard-to-come-by than in a casual playthrough.

I've actually been giving the P5R Solo Joker Merciless a try myself. I was inspired by Tevin's video of that funny enough. I didn't agree about the "Madarame is impossible without excessive grinding", but it was in a way that I had a curiosity that wanted to be satiated. It's been an on and off project for me since I've been balancing it alongside speedrunning. While it isn't 1:1 on the rules about using the party members, there are still ways I've been able to work around the spots where a full party is forced in order to maintain the spirit of the challenge. It's led to an interesting approach to the game where I have to take my perfectionism with set-building, and make it even more optimized. Yet, in some spots it's felt easier due to not having to worry about keeping an entire party active and healthy. I've gotten to the Third Semester so far in my run, and I really only have the second foray into the final Palace left, and the Day of Fates. It's what I considered one of the three biggest roadblocks of the run, but I'm looking forward to seeing how I solve it. tl;dr I really enjoyed this video that covered different ideas of challenges to roll with, and I definitely want to give more of these a try once I finish up P5R

No healing springs? That sounds like an advanced nuzelocke. Or, locketurne... Pokemon nuzelocke does have a no pokemon center rule set, but its an advanced set, the default rules smt would likely just be like pokemon if you think about it. First demon in the area, and part ways with any that fall in combat. Those other rules just sound like additions to the rules, speaking of pokemon also has other rules to add on top like no buying items at the pokemarts and so on. But seriously though, that locketurne rule set looks more like an advanced rule set for after beating a regular nuzelocke style run.

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“Forsaken World: Gods and Demons” Wow, sounds a lot like SMT to me

I have one for Persona: Incelocke 1. You cannot use any female party members. Just the boys. 2. You can't start any female social links, automatics like Sae are an exception. 3. You cannot interact with the Velvet Attendants, therefore no compedium. 4. You cannot recruit and fuse any female Persona. 5. You cannot itemize or obtain skill cards from female Personas . 6 .You cannot buy anything from a female NPC. Considering that Persona fans have a reputation for being incels, this challenge is appropriate.

For anyone interested in something easier than these masochistic ideas, you can try using only demons of a certain alignment. That's a lot more restrictive in the IV games since SJ rewards using same alignment demons and Nocturne doesn't tell you alignments. For a Nocturne specific challenge, you can only use Magatama of a certain color. There are 8 light, neutral, and dark magatama, and this limits the skills you can access and really limits some of the strategies you can use. I actually did this one myself with the light magatama and if I did it again, I'd play on hard mode because even with the restriction it was pretty easy on normal. For a IV/ IV Apocalypse challenge, you can try never whispering skills to the MC. Pretty self explanatory but that would limit your player turn actions to weapon attacks or items.

I actually made a list of rules for a Persona nuzlocke, though it mostly applies to Persona 5. 1: If the protagonist happens to die, what ever persona he was using must be realeased. If all of your personas happen to have to be released, the game is over. 2: You can only capture the first persona in any loaded area. If the shadow is captured, defeated, or runs away, no other personas can be captured on that loaded area. (In a palace, basically just every time there's a transition between doors. And on every LEVEL of mementos or BLOCK of tartarus, not every individual floor. I don't know how it works in Persona 4.) 3: You cannot fuse or summon personas, including the dlc personas. This would make it too easy to make up for lost personas. You can still strengthen and itemize personas. You can still use your party members even if they die.

Nuzlocke challenges. . . . . Hama and mudo enters the chat

Pimp Protagonist Challenge: -From the moment you can obtain one you may only use demons of the opposite sex of your player character. -From the moment you are able you may only use party members of the opposite sex. -If playing Persona you must romance all available characters.

Didn't mention the SMT3 "pass only-playtrough" 0/10

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I had an idea for a Persona Anti-Social Challenge awhile ago, which was admittedly less about challenge and more about flavoring a run, I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult to an experienced player but here's what I came up with (this was mostly based on P5/P5R since I had just beaten it again and it was on my mind, but I'm sure you could do this in 3/4 with some tweaks): >Fresh file >Hard Difficulty >No Direct Commands, AI Allies Only >No Social Link/Confidant Advancement Unless Required >No optional hangouts unless required >No getting a job >No raising social stats unless required >Pick the most rude or dismissive dialogue (for flavor) >No mementos requests or any other kind of "helping other people in a dungeon" things unless required >No healing/curing/buffing teammates >In P5, No negotiating (which I guess also makes this Arsene only, not sure) >no tycoon/darts/pool/whatever >dungeons must be finished in a single day or whatever the minimum amount of time investment is (some are broken up and require multiple days) in order to minimize how much time you have to spend around other people And I guess if you want to upgrade this to the "Shut-In Challenge", no leaving your room during free time unless required. Anyway, that's just an idea I had. Would love to see someone do it just for fun.

Something i have done in Persona 3-5, is what i call the "Slacker" challenge... It's INSANELY tough and punishing, but i got a real kick out of it! It's pretty much the opposite of a 100% run, and basicly requires you to involve yourself with as few of the games mechanics as you can, while still getting to the true ending. Pretty much just go to bed or do something that doesn't really benefit you, any time you can. Using Persona 5 as an example, some of the rules i used were: -Do as little as possible in the social part of the game, and avoid increasing any social stats if you can (meaning you HAVE to answer every school question wrong). -Never buy anything, sell anything, equip anything or train anyone, unless you REALLY can't progress, and then try something that is the least damaging in the long run (like equipping better armor for an impossible fight, and then unequipping it when you are done). -Do as few social links as possible. -Level up as little as possible, and use as few partymembers as possible. -Never fuse new personas unless you absolutely have to. You can add or take away rules for yourself, but the goal of the challenge is to finish with Joker being as close to how he started the game as possible; as low level, poor, friendless and antisocial as he was in the beginning!

Something I’ve been trying recently is a guns/items only run of digital devil saga 1. The only skills I’m letting my characters use in atma form are buffs (and gun combo skills) since otherwise the necessary strategies are super unreliable

My boy finally got a sponsor that i can skip, great.

1 Race/Arcana per Dungeon/Zone/Whatever else Basically, use only one race of demons per dungeon or until certain story elements trigger. For example, in nocturne, it would be forced to use the fairy race in the hospital and let's say the yoma race for shibuya, then wilders for ikebukuro and etc. You are also free to recruit and fuse any demon, but in battle you are allowed only the demons of that race, MCs are the exception and to make things a bit spicier, you can use a random number generator, with each number being a race and with it, the race for certain sections can be the same in the last one or certain races may not appear at all. Now for the story elements part, the reason i'm saying that, is that certain games tend to have some extremely long dungeons and doing those with only fairies or wilders, can be kind of boring, hence whenever certain key moments in story appear or certain bosses do, it will trigger a change in races. A good example is SJR, with Sector A being race A since its pretty short, Sector B can be pre-Zelenin and post-Zelenin so race B and C respectively, Sector C can be Fused-Horkos and Defused-Horkos so race A and D and it goes on. For persona, it would be certain arcanas only, fool is the start then rando. The only exception for certain races not to appear, would be because none of them would be available at a certain point in the game, or do you want to see a Lv.60 Yu Narukami beating Yukiko with an Anubis in non-NG+? If you want the second, the only thing to say, is good luck. Others are dds and dds 2, with certain types of skills can be allowed, such as fire only or healing only etc.

Thank you Nyarly for uploading a video, I'm losing my mental sanity at this point that I just watch your challenges and rewatch them lots of times lmao

One of my favorite challenges I did in a game was what I call "Fire Emblem Echoes no optional recruitment run" were like it says you don't recruit anybody except the ones you're forced to recruit here are all the units and it is possible and fun also make gray and Tobin there cannon class so Gray: mercenary Tobin: Archer Alm's rout. Alm Gray Tobin Lukas Clive Myce ------------ Celica's rout Celica Boey Mae Saber Conrad

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I love doing challenge runs they're so fun. I did one for Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and I had a great time doing it. Didn't make a video out of it due to a lack of recording software but I had a lot of fun. If you've got time to kill and no new games to play I highly recommend it

Nice shoutouts! Regarding the minimum battles concept, I've mainly been defying the main point of such runs by doing them in NG+, but I still like to see how low it's theoretically possible to go nevertheless. The run I'm personally most interested in is _Persona 5_ on Merciless since Vanilla's version of this mode only lets you earn 40% EXP, IIRC. Except, I've been thinking of applying that same handicap in the _Royal_ version...except Merciless _increases_ your EXP now. So, applying the original's EXP penalty would require either a mod (if/whenever that's possible) or close monitoring of every party member's level, stats, skills, etc., and editing the save after nearly every possible battle (exceptions being multiple separate battles where there's no chance to save). Unfortunately, it seems that the only program I've heard of that can decrypt and edit the save files (that I could hope to get my hands on, at least) costs $50 (or was it $60?), and I'm not so desperate to try playing P5R with a cheated/mod-based rule as to spend that. Maybe if this game is ported to Steam at some point and someone makes a cheat table for it like I've found for _Persona 4:Golden..._

i'm really bad at smt persona 4 was a challenge for me to beat but hoooooo boy I am going to try some of these

What about PersonaQ without Secondary Personas?

On the subject of the Nuzlocke challenge, I came up with both a standard Nuzlocke ruleset, as well as the Soul Link ruleset, for Persona 3-5. The rulesets were designed to actually emulate the core Nuzlocke rulesets, while still maintaining the identity of Persona. I'll post a link to both of them in the replies to this comment if anyone is interested (assuming that KZfaq-sama doesn't get onto me for it.) I streamed a Persona 5 Royal Nuzlocke using the standard ruleset on Hard Mode and it was still extremely manageable, even though it was my first time playing through P5R. Attempting it on P3 and/or P4 has been far more challenging, though.

Although I never completed it, I did a run of Persona 3 Portable with the female character using only Pixie. I officially didn't start the run until I got one. She was a 4-elemental with buffs and healing.

Did a Devil Survivor 2 nuzlocke recently and it was honestly pretty fun, the rules regarding demons were that I wasn't allowed to use any dead demons and that they had to be fused or deleted by the end of the day, no compendium, only allowed to buy each demon once from the auction, one special demon per membership level and no dupes, for the humans I just made it so if they died they weren't usable in battle, if they were mandatory they were just forced to stay still and die before anything happened and if the protag died it was game over, merciful rules for a game this easy ik but for my first megaten game and nuzlocke I enjoyed it :)

A 'solo' run of Persona 5 is doable by having the other party members just guard and not do anything until Fox shows up and you can just remove them, however...it seems to be VERY HARD to do in Royal due to the Shadow Madarame boss fight being WAY harder than it was in base Persona 5. There was a youtuber called YourBudTevin who attempted this and got stopped dead in his tracks by this. Mind you he was on the highest difficulty in the game and even on normal it was insanely hard.

Seeing your starting Persona only runs had me thinking about what that would be like in the first two games, with everybody being able to change Personas. It would definitely be crazy.

You Might not see this but I'll suggest it anyway Persona 3 Climb to the End Challenge Rules - Start at Lvl 1 Everything - No Compodium Summoning - Fusions Available - Start with Orpheus - Start with Junpei and Yukari - Every Secret Document Checkpoint gain's you a new party member in order by progression (Akihiko then Mitsuru and So on) - Start with Starting Equipment - Obtain Weapon's Item's and Persona's trough climbing up Tartarus Optional Stuff - Max Social Links so Every Persona is Available Including Orpheus Telos - No Quest Limits (If anyone can Mod It) - Play on Hardest Difficulty - Elizabeth Optional Bossfight - Margaret Optional Bossfight - Other Bosses can be fought uppon getting to a certain lvl

a workaround for persona solo challenges,if you cant switch out party members (yet or at all) just have them guard every turn

the "I wanna hate IVA even more than I already do" challenge -Nanashi can only use the Anarchy Ring (free DLC, makes you weak to everything except for Almighty) -Apocalypse difficulty, whatever the second hardest one is if that's too much -No special fusion demons -Other than the DLCs mentioned above (Anarchy Ring and Apocalypse Difficulty), no DLC content. The bosses are an exception if you wanna go for the challenge, but don't fuse them (and they fall under the special fusion demons rule anyway) -No HP/MP Walk apps or the one that restores your HP/MP on a level up -No stat enhancing items (as in incenses or armor boosters, using equipment is fine obviously) -Always use Gaston as your Partner (before you unlock him use whoever's the worst in the current situation), pick the Anarchy ending and choose him as your Goddess -Don't give the Awakening skill to Nanashi

I highkey considered doing the Raidou games with no demons (Excluding the ones you need to continue the story with) but then I realized that 1. All boss fights would just be button mashers and healing items are restricted so you can only hold 12 medium heals at a time 2. In the first game, here is one fight that's immune to physical and I think gun? so you're stuck. In the second game there is no bosses that are immune to physical but there are a few that just straight up deal 23 damage per combo even with Tarukaja active and have like 2500 health and teleport every three seconds. 3. Why would you do this over Low Level? The games are literally called Demon Summoner not "High School Detective fights Soulless Army and Bugs"

SMT1 Challenge for SMT4 and SMT4A, the protagonist can only use Attacks, Gun Attacks and Items. (I added that the protagonist could have Charge but nothing else but whatever floats your boat) and if the protagonist dies = Game Over. (You can do it with the Annihilation app in SMT4A)

So, I’m actually doing this on P5R right now. Currently at Madarames palace and this is something I thought of after watching the anime. You know how in the anime, the protags only ever use 1 Persona of any arcana and once they get that, thats the only one they use? Well, heres my ruleset, no real name for it yet though XD 1. You may not use any Persona arcana unless you have at least started the same social link/confidant. Your starting Persona always takes up your Fool slot, and if you acquire a Persona through shuffle time that breaks the rules, you must dismiss it as soon as possible. In P5, the game forces you to recruit Pixie and at least fuse once, you can choose to dismiss the results and start at the moment you leave the Velvet Room. However, you may choose which Persona of the arcana you take. 2. Once you acquire a Persona of an arcana, you cannot ever acquire another of the same arcana. Optional, You must play on the hardest difficulty and on a new game So in a nutshell, say you play through P5 and get the Death confidant. You are allowed to have 1 Death Persona for the entire run. So if you acquire Mandrake, you can not ever pick up Nue for example. Sounds awkward but its keeping things interesting XD

Solo Nocturne is probably easiest by starting out as a magic build and then going physical in the mid-late game ending up as a hybrid build.

Here's one I'm doing for P5R and it's pretty fun: 1) No Velvet Room (no fusion, as you mentioned, but also no itemization, gallows, or lockdown) 2) No Mementos, except when required (this cuts short most of the Confidants, and cuts a few out of the game entirely, including Emperor, Star, Fortune, and Tower. Also, no Null Phys card for you.) 3) No grinding (if you reload an area in a Palace with Shadows patrolling around, you cannot defeat any of those Shadow encounters you already defeated)

I kinda got an idea for a "Locketurne" challenge for the mainline SMT games (Nocturne, IV and Apocalypse). - You must recruit the first demon (or group of demons) that you encounter in a battle. - You can alter your demons, use mitamas or any other enhancers on them. - You can only fuse demons that you have recruited before, assuming they haven't died yet, in order to have stronger versions and replace them with the base forms of the demons you recruit. - If a demon dies, you cannot fuse them again, and you must part ways with them. - You can also use demons that are rewarded through side quests or can be recruited after you beat their boss battles (Black Frost and Dante/Raidou in Nocturne or Krishna in Apocalypse). - You must play in the hardest difficulty. - If the protagonist dies, all demons within that party are deleted as well, but you can continue the run. - If the protagonist dies and has no more demons left after returning to the last save spot, or all demons you have in your list are dead, the run is over. - You can only carry up to 6 demons total (3 in your party and 3 as substitutes). - If you replace a demon with another, the replaced demon must be parted ways with. - Your demons are allowed to evolve if need be. Considering how much more difficult the mainline SMT games are in comparison of other spinoffs I think this is fair, also sorry for the wall of text.

3,4,5 do have a solo challenge, specifically 5. Tbf it requires new game plusing the game and planning to kill off each party member at the start of every encounter. However there are specific bosses in 5 with instant kill attacks that require party members to avoid and or damage to be done in a sufficient quantity. This is largely why solo joker is more popular with the extra bosses and battles as you have complete control in that specific encounter.

I always though a no sub-persona run in Q1 would be fun. I feel like the best team would be both protagonists so you can get ultimate personas, naoto because she's broken as hell, yukari for healing, and zen/rei to handle all elments but dark and light and almighty but also because they can't use sub personas anyway and thus their stats are really good. Unfortunately this run would limit you to the skills you could use but that's kind of the point. I'm the only one who likes persona q so I don't think anyone will do this. In Q2 this challenge sounds impossible since there are more elements for attacks and there's no team I can think of that would give you all of them, and mudo and hama skills aren't nearly as useful, and the bosses in Q2 are bullshit.

Nice video, I got a idea for a challenge from that video. I played only Persona 5 by now, so I do not know in which games it could work and I think it is more of a easy one. You can get any Persona/Monster, but you can not remove it from the party, so you stick with them for the rest of the game. With that fusion is not possible, but you can hold for the recruting to get Persona/Monster from the late game, until all your slots are full.

Devil Survivor 1 with only one leader character(Basically MC + 2 Demons only,switching is okay). any good ending is acceptable. early fight that require you to dispatch other characters are okay, you can dispatch other human characters but don't move them and only guard with them. the first and second fight are an excecption and you can play those normally. this version of a solo devil servivor run is actually quite possible. PS: kinda happy that Nyraly watches Jrose's videos as well

I'm pretty sure the only reason why some challenge run content creators are able to upload challenges as often as they do is because of *intense* familiarity with the game, and playing, say, a Bethesda game that lets you massively sequence break definitely helps. MegaTen and other JRPG challenge runs generally only let you fast forward the dialogue and otherwise force you to actually play through the entire game. There's definitely super interesting challenges on both sides of the coin, but you'll never see a "can you beat Shin Megami Tensei IV as Abraham Lincoln" run (Source: a guy called Nerbit is working on beating Fallout games as Abe Lincoln) and you'll never see a nuzlocke of a Bethesda game. Or any game outside of the mons subgenre of JRPG that really only has Pokemon and MegaTen as the franchises still around in it. Also, Persona Permadeath rule change suggestion so you don't have to do the first dungeon or two perfectly: if someone dies before the fifth party member, they're just... Not allowed to fight or be healed. Guard only, unless you can get them even closer to doing nothing. I know that by being a body, they're technically impacting the run, but still. (Alternative: you're allowed to reload save games if someone dies before the fifth party member, but aren't afterwards.)

I had a idea for two challenges in one like never upgrade weapons and armor (For main characters and party members) and only have two demons in party. You can still gather demons to upgrade, but you can only have two demons at a time.

I've thought about playing SMT IV/Apocalypse like an old school Megaten game. For damage, you can only rely on your Sword, Gun, and attack items. You can't inherit any skill. I have also thought about adding a "magnetite" mechanic, but I have yet to see how that could work

idea for a persona nuzlocke: - no velvet room - can only use first persona earnt on a floor or area (or one per dungeon palace or tatarus block) - no buying from shops (leblanc coffee or vegetables are allowed) - cannot modify the skill sets of persona's unless its remembering a skill (no skill cards, hot springs ect.)

Deathless. The Challenge is simply, those you control cannot die. GiantGrantGames sort of Pioneered this challenge first with Starcraft 2; Wings of Liberty Deathless, one of the rules he added on is that he MUST save all allies possible or at the very least make an actual attempt to save them, in the case of Mega-Ten I'm not sure how this could be applied but it could have something to do with the recruitment system, the rule where you have to save allies made the Culling of Stratholme a fairly interesting mission as he had to wait until each group of allied villagers turned into hostile zombies but a Deathless challenge is essentially a Nuzlocke on steroids, and I'd argue in Nocturn it'd be harder then no buffs/debuffs, especially if one tries to get the TDE given that from what I can tell it's easier for them to go down then stay alive.

The Challenge that i could suggest in persona is the Only Your Arcana Challenge. You can Only use in Battle Personas from your Arcana and Protagonist Persona (Orpheus/Iza/Arsene) Or maybe the Adachi Challenge, prohibiting any Social Link.

No heals, or passive only build runs would be cool. Basically you just can't use attack or healing skills. (I also haven't really thought through this so I dunno if it'd work lmao)

Recently i was messing around with some cheats in some SMT games and I found an exp multiplier for the PSP version of Eternal Punishment. A 0 Exp challenge would be the most difficult of the bunch.

I have an idea ive made a while ago: the demon trainer challenge. Based on normal pokemon play. >You're only allowed to use up to 6 demons at a time >No fusions >Mc is not allowed to attack at all. Only allowed to use buff (no debuff) and healing skills, as well as items. Damaging items are allowed (think of them like rocks in the safari zone) >Compendium is allowed (your PC) >Evolutionb is allowed (do i even need to explain this one?) Bonus challenge: In every area, youre not allowed to leave until you get every demon (gotta catch em all), or nuzlocke rules. Otherwise, everyyhing is fair game.

I was actually thinking of doing a nuzlocke challenge for Persona Q, as you have full control over how many characters you can have in your party. Maybe I'll make a video about that but I'm not sure, probably just be a personal challenge

I like the idea of one arcana only challenge for persona, but a little tweaking. You can only use personas from Social Links you've maxed. The only exception is the fool arcana since its progression is story-based and you can't influence it. That way your still incentivized to do S.Links, but your persona pool is far smaller. You can still recruit and fuse other personas, but you can't use them in battle if it's from an arcana you haven't maxed out. For extra difficulty, you can even prevent yourself from recruiting or fuzing persona outside of arcana you haven't encountered. It should be possible and not too difficult for anyone who hasn't done challenge runs before. I was looking for a way to spice up my p4g playthrough and this video gave me some good ideas, thanks!.

I remember your video about beating Persona 4 with only Izanagi, and wondered if it was possible to do the same with Arsene in Persona 5. Kinda off topic, but funny story, my friend beat both games without ever fusing Izanagi or Arsene because she refused to abandon them lol

Devil survivor Solo(sh) run: Rules -You're only allowed to use the main character and 2 demons -you are only allowed to use other leaders when you need to dispatch them and you can only guard -Atsuro and Gin's routes are banned I already did this btw it was really fun.

Amazing timing on the video! I'm starting a P5R act freely challenge run with no crossing elements (Party members can't be used if Joker has a persona that uses their element)

Can you beat SMT V without playing it?

I did a SMT4A nuzlock on apocalypse once and my rules were: Recruit the first demon in a group you encounter only, Dead demons get deleted, Fusion is fine since it does come at the cost of having fewer demons, If protag dies all demons in party deleted, party deaths count even in forced defeats, no dlc. It was pretty rough in the start because I just got unlucky but as I got a party going it was easy.

"DDS 1 and 2 are some of the hardest megaten games" you really think so? I just recently finished DDS1 and it was INCREDIBLY easy, some fights were titty twisters but over all easy but lots of fun. DDS2 is the next game im playing so maybe that one will do me in

Nice that you have a Nuzleaf from Pokemon in the thumbnail as Pokemon Nuzlockes are the definitive Pokemon challenge. XD

I don't mean to sound rude please do not take this the wrong way but you seriously have the perfect serious anime/rpg nerd voice I mean my God it's so perfect for your videos I can never tell if your ever being sarcastic about something or not you just have that serious voice your like the act man of anime/rpg/jrpg

the strange journey solo challenge is probably my favorite way of playing the game, i almost completed it but stopped at the new final boss and will attempt it again after im done with a run im planning to do in my next playthrough (low level in impossible difficulty)

I'd comment a Persona Q/Persona Q2 challenge, but the _real_ challenge is to find anyone else who's actually played either/both games.

You can actually also do no skill cards with starting persona only; since you can always refuse your starting personas, meaning Orpheus could actually get Ragnarok, Fire Boost, Fire Amp, Mind Charge by just fusing Surt down into Legion, and fusing legion with slime I think it is. So fuse that same Surt into Slime so you are basically going to get everything easier. But yeah; you can ignore skill cards (meaning P3 Fes); if you understand the fusion system enough to know how to refuse starting personas you can refuse basically any ability in the game into your starting personas

1:43 I expected Dating Start from Undertale would play here.

i havent even played a megami tensei game besides a bit of persona 4 if that even counts, i just watch your videos every now and then.

For anyone wondering, you can bypass having to pay for train fairs in p5 if you have a confidant who messages you which will allow you to teleport to where they are without paying money

Arsene only is a fun entry level challenge run, I would say the difficulty peaks at Madarame (at least on merciless) because you don’t have access to many elements but its still a fun challenge I recommend to any P5 fan. I honestly just do this challenge every time I do a playthrough of P5 because I love Arsene’s design a lot

Honestly, Strange Journey's password feature makes it sort of easy to pass along parties of demons for challenge runs

A persona 4 solo challenge is possible to attempt IIRC. Yosuke, Chie and Yukiko are automatically equipped to your party inside the shadow world until Kanji is unlocked, but IIRC you can just tell them to fuck off