Just went to WTT in Maggie Valley... awesome!!!!!

Those bikes are complete garbage when it comes to actually rideable motorcycles, they're basically art pieces built for show not for go. I don't know how many complaints they had about people not even getting five miles down the road before multiple things breaking on them, say they drive horribly uncomfortable and no power, the common engine say years were those Harley 65 horsepower crate engines..Just

Or how about suspension or fuel injection , ABS etc... if your actually going to ride the bike and not just be a poser who’s look at me guy you want all those things on a bike.

@@badmonkey2222And their resale values are reflected in their shit craftsmanship. Both Paul Senior and Junior have bought back a bunch of them for pennies on the dollar.

@@edgardorodriguez3710 The engines were fuel injected. ABS is not required even today on bikes in the states. The bikes they built were for show. While some looked good, most looked like crap. In the end of the day they weren't bikes for riding.

@@badmonkey2222 you are aware that Harleys don't make hp like sport bikes right? In the mid 2000s 65hp was about the biggest, and most powerful engine hd made at the time. Those motors went in 1000lb baggers.

These bikes are rubbish engineering and performance wise. More like welding and spray painting art in which they do excel.

@@anguscooper1295 I agree. Black widow bike was nothing but cut, bent, and welded round stock of webs here and there. That's the bike they built that started it all and continued on the same slap on look "design" and really no engineering behind it. Also. There were hardly any kind of fabrication as well as far as shaping sheet metal is concerned like you see on other shows. Joe Martin is great and those boys in Kindig It Design.

@@squidusn71 like you can do better clown!

Junior, from what I’ve heard, is actually very nice and polite. Senior, on the other hand...

Vinnie & Rick were the only true professionals on the show,

As Dylan sang “fame and fortune, neither are to be what they claim”

Fair enough, but whats your opinion of the bikes as show pieces?

Hi I am his dad , had an amazing time, been a fan since the stat and unreal to be there... More so given they've now moved.

You think you could do better?

@@wowomg1980 doesn't matter those bikes are complete garbage just about every one of them that I've heard of got 20 miles down the road max before breaking down, their built for show not for go.

@@badmonkey2222 they cool

It would help if they would have built bikes that were actually made to ride also, beautiful art pieces no doubt but total junk when it comes to rideability, none of them had suspensions just brutal to ride that's if you could even get it to start, underpowered engines, read of multiple complaints of people not even getting 5 miles down the road before multiple things breaking, overpriced garage ornaments, if you bought a $80,000 bike from there ten years ago it's worth about 8 grand now.

Besides that though do you like them?

@@mjlives5428 used to watch the show, but I hated the bikes. Any one that rides knows just how ridiculous their bikes actually were.

They’re an iconic piece of art

@@brandonpurple8938 Lucky for you then you can buy them all day for under 10K

@@markbd9775 I won’t buy one there’s so many other bikes I’d buy for the price of one but I respect the art of them

It was always entertaining I was always rooting for Jr to knock SR out and then have Mikey come and kick SR in the Head when he's passed out!

He's not to poor just yet. Chapter 13 got him out of pretty much everything by selling his estate in NY. Happens everyday of every year across the good 'ol U.S.A.

There is nothing crazy about a false market of value.

Buddy of mine purchased a used OCC bike a year ago for less than $10k that originally sold for over $80k. He only got it to get the low mile S&S motor and 6 speed trans for his softail and proceeded to sell the shitty overaked hardtail chopper frame for $7k. 😆

Tulip mania

Is occ they

Hardtails have been around for a 100+ years, and folks still ride them.

Fake reality TV

@@danielfair4675 yes I know, and I would never ride one. The model T was around a long time ago also and I wouldn't drive one of those either. I have better options so why would I ?

@@jillsmcfarland2001 yes but some of the builds were fun to watch in the beginning. I enjoyed watching some of the process and the custom work in the beginning, after season 3 or 4 it all got old. Hated all the tv drama and tuned out becasue of it.

Complete junk, you are lucky if you get 20 miles down the road before multiple things break, garage ornaments is putting it lightly.

Damn right they are

It was art, I give them credit for their creativeness, never cared about the family drama, but it makes ratings sooo...

Total junk

Yea you are right Paul spent money like you would not believe. He’s worth a whole 50,000 now after losing it all. Jr is worth about 3 million now

how talented he is you mean, the guy's not dead

Worst is watching a program about all the hopeful treatments for Alzheimer always narrated by a smug doctor.

Senior is an arrogant asshole. Other people there had the skills to build bikes, but real bike builders know the bikes OCC built were not to good.

@@joehovanec1985 how nice for you to armchair quarterback. Senior built the business a decade before there was a junior or anyone else in the mix...he actually worked a real job instead of the spoon fed youth who think they should get everything without putting in the time. Not saying junior wasn't/isn't extremely talented but I this generation that won't pay their dues and get handed stuff and aren't appreciative...well, no way my kids would ever expect or act like that. But I get it, Senior played a role...they all did. Producers wanted heroes and villains. It was another fake reality TV show after all. And yet another reason I have all but given up TV. Heck I ride my Harley more, fish more, and don't miss the idiot box at all now that I got the weather on my phone...I don't even need to listen to the liberal news drivel. OCC was a cultural phenomenon, it made them all into stars and changed a lot of lives. Are any of them Indian Larry? Heck no! Arlen Ness? Again, a man who built his skills over many years, decades in quiet... his sons stuff today isn't the same...it seems contrived almost. Hard to beat an original of anything. I had a couple original Arlen Ness parts on a bike in the 80's...wish I still had the old bike and those parts. I miss the days when rallies were wild, bikes were raw and loud, the men had true decades of miles and scars, and the women didn't have tattoos, lol! Today's rallies are a shopping experience and a concert of mostly wanna be performers and crowd members. I bought my first HD 2 days out of the infantry on a handshake. The owner of the shop carried the note for me personally and gave me a discount for fighting for our country...I delivered or mailed a check to that man for a year until it was all mine. I slept in the dirt beside it, learned how to live the life, and learned what it truly meant to earn a club patch. I doubt a guy would do that in today's world...pay one's dues over time and take what's given to ya and not complain... Or hey, be "offended" over words like the pansies of today. Well, you got your opinions and I've dumped mine...but whatever. If you ride, call in sick and ride and smile. I did today...rode 5 hours with a buddy who's already retired and we stopped for gas and a sandwich and both couldn't wait to get back in the wind after the snow and ice. Riding is a gift, hope you enjoy it as much as you can.

@@Motorcyclewindtherapy You a real FANBOY!😁

@@uweyaa well, I appreciate honest work over time and paying your dues...that's for sure. Besides, their bikes are cool to look at, but my '17 HD had 38k on it...a little low for my usual average...but I do love riding more than just looking at my bikes.

Think they are headed to Florida. Better check and go soon

Fair enough!

Rick from PA was cool. He was a hard worker. He'd commute 2hr each way for the work week, TV series. I think they worked Mon to Thu at 1 point.

They have just been renting that building for many years. Sr could not afford to keep making payments when his business went down. Or did not want to keep making payments. Ended up telling the bank he was going to default on the loan. The bank then sold off the building. Multiple new owners kept renting it back to Orange County choppers. Least that’s what I remember. Sr spent way to much on that building. They had a full gym. I think I maybe saw a 3 lane bowling ally? Not stuff you would put in a manufacturing plant. He should have built it half the size. He still had the original place. Could have still had some employees working their if they needed more space.

Never noticed gthat wow good point..how is that legal?

Uhhhh they are “choppers”

@@ilovecarnitas uuuuuh "GARBAGE" that's why they flopped 😩✔️

totally agree. more was noting that gauges arent really common on custom builds. well when talking about choppers. i’m not advocating anything about oc bikes.

They’re NOT street legal.

@Dan Strong I do not think all of the bikes OCC made ended up back with OCC, just a majority of the theme bikes made for the show.

Oh yeah. That’s why they failed.

@Petey Peter Who?

@@exupakias the Banks, Frank and Erthel Banks own it

He always seemed like a nice Guy with absolutely no Talent whatsoever

He had a habit of popping in drunk everywhere

That's even if you can get them to go more than 5 miles without breaking down or something breaking, that was the main complaint that I've read from just about everybody that's bought a bike from them that they were total garbage when it came to rideability, a lot of people had to buy new engines because the basic engines they came with had no horsepower, overpriced garage ornaments...

What it also means is that they used the cheapest rigid frame you could buy on a bike costing tens of thousands. Big time rip-off.

@@news603redux if you bought a bike from OCC ten years ago for 80k that same bike is worth 8k today and that's a fact because i know someone who just bought a bike built by them that was supposedly worth 90 grand when it was built and he paid 6,500 for it and said it rides like shit and won't even start when it's under 40° outside.

@@badmonkey2222 indeed, I too know someone that purchased a $80k OCC bike for $10k last year for the S&S engine & 6spd transmission.

@@badmonkey2222 pretty much like every H-D motor back in the early 2000's. They were ALL dogs.

They are!!! It’s funny how the bikes they built for tv ”theme” bikes” there just show pieces!! I never really got into occ.

Hell, there were people who spent 60-70k on a “custom” bike from them, and only got 10 miles before it started malfunctioning. They were an excellent example of all style & no substance.

Yeah I think is now while they move to Florida

@@DDLEADER5101 Hmmmm, I wonder what will happen with that big fancy building???

Hopefully tear it down

The burgers are 24.99 there with fries, cheese is extra

You don't have volume control?

Bank owned

Frank and Erthel Banks own it