NYCTA: 2002-05 Diamler Chrysler Orion 07.501 HEV Review

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5 жыл бұрын

Kal-El reviews New York City Transit's 1st order of Orion VIIs , 2nd low floor hybrid buses of New York City.
Credit goes to:
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/ @transit019
/ @xcelsiorfan4964
/ kingsbridgeviewer382
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@NeilQVLGA6455 4 жыл бұрын

I hope they preserve 6365 before it’s too late! I really want this bus to be part of the museum fleet, We should probably get a whole group of transit fans and tell them the whole history about 6365 and preserve it.

@TheRailLeaguer 5 жыл бұрын

Also, several of these buses (6589-6624) were transferred from Fresh Pond to the then-new Grand Avenue Depot In 2008, then were sent to East NY Depot a while later. In 2018, buses 6590-6595, 6597-6601, 6603-6606 were sent back to Fresh Pond Depot. Then some of the 6490-65xx buses were sent to East New York Depot. All 2003-04 units and 158 of the 2004-05 units will be retired by the end of this year. Soon, the rest of those 2004-05 units will be replaced by the next hybrid order.

@kalelc1996 5 жыл бұрын

True true

@kalelc1996 5 жыл бұрын

Hope you guys are enjoying the review and be sure to stay tuned for more videos and reviews coming soon

@tyonnamorton2200 3 жыл бұрын

Kal-El im sorry if you like hybrid buses but I really don't like hybrid i like the CNGS one's

@kalelc1996 3 жыл бұрын

@@tyonnamorton2200 I honestly prefer the CNGs too

@tyonnamorton2200 3 жыл бұрын

Yea i think is more better in richmond va we just have half cng gilligs half 2011-2012 gillig low floor brt diesel not is powered with ISL Not ISM and some 2008-09 gillig but the 2008 one that I grow up with is sadly retired

@dodge1515 5 жыл бұрын

Man oh man, do I remember seeing these for the first time back in Spring/Summer 2004. I was riding on the B51 bus at the time heading to City hall (it was a 1990/1991 repowered TMC RTS #8xxx) and we came to a red light on Canal street, and I saw a northbound 2004 Orion VII hybrid, brand new on the M1 bus! I was so shocked! That's because back then, I only remember seeing Orion 5 buses on the M1 back in those days! :)

@NeilQVLGA6455 5 жыл бұрын

These are my favorites most favorites

@nyctenthusiast3507 5 жыл бұрын

Nice video Kal-El. I loved riding these busses to coney Island on the b68 when the Q was not running. Amazing

@NeilQVLGA6455 5 жыл бұрын

this is the hybrid version, not cng

@nyctenthusiast3507 5 жыл бұрын

@@NeilQVLGA6455 still. Same bus model

@dev_nyc23 3 жыл бұрын

Man, I miss these buses so much. I took them a lot on the M11. Rip those buses. 2002-2019

@zeideankrah8370 5 жыл бұрын

Nice video Kal El I like the video I also rode these buses back to back

@javie1988 5 жыл бұрын

Can’t wait for the 2006-07 review

@AutomotiveTaurus 5 жыл бұрын

The 2004 - 05 units are my most favorite Orion VII HEVs. The CNG versions of these are my least favorites, toooo bad !!! These buses reminds me of 2007, when I flew from Haiti🇭🇹 amd first rode these sets out of ENY Depot(the B17 route as my first home route of NYC). Speaking of that, I recently transferred to ENY Depot(dispatcher) and I am excited to take control of these with my cousin. I miss my OGs from Quill and #6745(not one of these in this video) was my first Quill OG HEV I got on. Excellent job on this review.

@nyctmtakid8358 3 жыл бұрын

I think I saw a few of these buses in the 2011 Smurfs movie. I also saw one in Captain America The First Avenger. But it changed to a 2008 - 2010 Orión VII. These are good Manhattan Buses and they’re pretty iconic in a few movies.

@Sylveonkpopnyct 5 жыл бұрын

I grew up with these on the Q27.

@NeilQVLGA6455 5 жыл бұрын

Transit Sylveon same

@javie1988 5 жыл бұрын

What

@javie1988 5 жыл бұрын

You know that the 27 use to be a Casey Stengel bus depot route

@onlyinnewyork7103 3 жыл бұрын

It was this on the 36 1 43 83 88 and 27 and the 2007 models on the 110

@Sylveonkpopnyct 3 жыл бұрын

@@javie1988 are u dumb

@luiszeferino1999 5 жыл бұрын

I Love These Orion VII OG’s, Nice Review

@christianluyando883 4 жыл бұрын

One day the OG’s will be replaced, by the time LFS HEV Buses will be delivered once MTA NYCT tested them. Along with Prevost X3-45 with upgrades.

@WestchesterXBeeline Жыл бұрын

@@christianluyando883 it’s happening now..

@onlyinnewyork7103 3 жыл бұрын

uuuuuhhhhh 5:46 Bring bqck memories from queens village depot ♥︎

@mauriceclark1914 5 жыл бұрын

Damm Ima miss these Units when they gone....😥 U could say these are the last of a dying breed!!!!

@TransportSimulatorNationTSN 5 жыл бұрын

Nice video man.

@elijahdrake6016 4 жыл бұрын

My god my brother you know your buses because I have been a bus fanatic since I was 12 years old in 1996

@javie1988 5 жыл бұрын

My dad's bus depot use to have the 68-69 buses until they gave them queens village depot😡😡

@Transit019 5 жыл бұрын

Also, Unit #6445 has orange LED destination signs

@dodge1515 5 жыл бұрын

This bus was recently retired along side #6485.

@NeilQVLGA6455 5 жыл бұрын

2 buses begin 6421 & 6424 were sent to Yukon Depot in Staten Island around 2008 (I’m not joking, this is REAL!) I do remeber seeing 6488 on the Q88 for the first time when I was 1 in 2007, I started to remember numbers at the time, and between 2012-2016 I saw a lot of these Orion VII OGs a lot on the Q27, I remember riding 6427, 6447, 6448, 6455, 6465, 6467, 6486 & 6487, man, I could have recorded my ride on 6467 but my camera died but don’t worry, I’ll do another ride video on them soon, it might be on the Q27 I think, and I will also ride the new incoming 64 order of the 2018-2019 NovaBus LFSs coming to Queens Village Depot, they’re 28 at the depot, i still miss these Orion VII OGs, since I film the Q43 a lot, I don’t live near it, I love finding the OGs running on that route! I’ll ride these on video, I promise you

@kalelc1996 5 жыл бұрын

I vaguely remember that. Surprisingly I've only been to Staten Island once and that was back in 2000 when I was 3. And from 2004 to 2015 I was living in Northeastern Pennsylvania.

@crownking3752 5 жыл бұрын

@@kalelc1996 nice review cant wait for more reviews

@NeilQVLGA6455 5 жыл бұрын

CrownKing I’m excitied too

@NeilQVLGA6455 5 жыл бұрын

Kal-El oh

@redbird1train855 3 жыл бұрын

Can you please do a review on the 2002/2005 MCI'S please

@zeideankrah8370 5 жыл бұрын

7:56 Orion 7 shitcans😂😂😂

@andydiaz697 5 жыл бұрын

6365-6489 are now retired

@kalelc1996 5 жыл бұрын

Yes they are. May they RIP

@EnderMasterTM 5 жыл бұрын

mad long but worth it!

@quiet776 4 жыл бұрын

Bro these are my favorite models bro

@Bobby_9538 3 жыл бұрын

i rode these on q46 when i was a kid from my school and to west farms county

@Bobby_9538 3 жыл бұрын

and these were my fav i only saw these in queens not matthan

@Ihonestlydek Жыл бұрын

None of these got preserved :( hopefully MTA bus company prerserve the 2006-2007 ogs

@droxly3287 5 жыл бұрын

Honestly OG's Engine Audio is way better 3G's and NG's.

@dodge1515 5 жыл бұрын

The MTA will save one (most likely #6365). It will be another one of those "#2201 vs #1201" cases, but instead it will be "#7560 vs #6365".

@kalelc1996 5 жыл бұрын

6365 has been scrapped

@dodge1515 5 жыл бұрын

@@kalelc1996 Last I checked it was up in Eastchester.

@NeilQVLGA6455 4 жыл бұрын

Kal-El 6365 is still alive at Eastchester depot!

@javie1988 5 жыл бұрын

you can still see them on the Q27

@justinphillips5571 5 жыл бұрын

Orion and Queens SQUAAAAAAD

@NeilQVLGA6455 5 жыл бұрын

This is what OGs should have looked liked if they were manufactured by NFI

@TapeCity 5 жыл бұрын

Wasn't one of these converted to a diesel only bus? i remember reading somewhere about one being converted.

@NeilQVLGA6455 5 жыл бұрын

MTA Bus Faner! True

@WestchesterXBeeline Жыл бұрын

3563

@ShadeJay 5 жыл бұрын

Never knew they had a different 6365 without a slanted window

@NeilQVLGA6455 5 жыл бұрын

Shade Jay I thought it was photoshopped at first

@kalelc1996 5 жыл бұрын

Yes that was the pilot model for the Orion VII

@tuesday8972 2 жыл бұрын

Next do a review on my buses it’s 2006-07 Orion VII Hybrid

@kalelc1996 2 жыл бұрын

Already did

@onlyinnewyork7103 3 жыл бұрын

What is you favorite version of the Orion 7 Og (reply)

@kalelc1996 3 жыл бұрын

CNG

@ptapigeontransportationaut912 5 жыл бұрын

you roasted the orion vii ng hev 7:57. plus these buses I don't see them no more on the JFK depot I think there retired so far. these buses are going going gone. I love this buses even the shit can aka the orion vii hev. I will miss them when there gone like the new flyer d60hf. one question where does all buses go for retirement?

@TheRailLeaguer 5 жыл бұрын

Gabriel Fearon JFK Depot has the 2006-07 Orion VII OGs, as well as 51 NGs. For retirement, they go to Eastchester Depot in the Northeast Bronx.

@danielsamuels5857 5 жыл бұрын

How do you feel about the new Navy Blue and Gold scheme?

@kalelc1996 5 жыл бұрын

At first I thought it was ugly but after a while it grew on me

@danielsamuels5857 5 жыл бұрын

@@kalelc1996 Glad it did. Did you also hear about the bus redesign as well?

@kalelc1996 5 жыл бұрын

@@danielsamuels5857 Yes I did

@omar.w939 5 жыл бұрын

Mta bus 6409 caught fire on may 27 rip

@kalelc1996 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I saw that

@javie1988 5 жыл бұрын

whats the name of the intro

@javie1988 4 жыл бұрын

I need to know I love the song!

@kalelc1996 2 жыл бұрын

Ignoring my heart by T-Mass remixed by yours truly

@Bp_3775 2 жыл бұрын

what’s the music

@kalelc1996 2 жыл бұрын

Ignoring my heart by T-Mass remixed by yours truly

@Bobby_9538 3 жыл бұрын

and i rode from queens village

@dev_nyc23 3 жыл бұрын

Who Grew Up With This Bus?

@WestchesterXBeeline Жыл бұрын

I miss it on the M2,M3,M4 and M5.

@baseman3 4 жыл бұрын

As an operator I hate these buses they suck can’t wait for MTA to get rid of them

@WestchesterXBeeline Жыл бұрын

…

@xaviergaming2206 Жыл бұрын

4:02 That's 6583

@javie1988 5 жыл бұрын

the 64 are from 2006

@javie1988 5 жыл бұрын

I'm wrong its the 68

@TheRailLeaguer 5 жыл бұрын

javie 19 The 6690-6905 batch is from 2006-07.

@dvnrhillary 3 жыл бұрын

As I usually ride these low-floored Orion buses during the previous decade, the only thing I hated and couldn't stand most times was the loud kneeling sound as they kneel - they were, to me, in my owns thoughts, irritatingly and annoyingly lousy, awful, and unpleasant! The same thing goes for the Westchester Beeline Bus Company. But, Thanks be to God, both New York City Transit and MTA took care of those kneeling sounds, which has been sounding better for being quiet and less irritating to me, during the later years!

@Nick-pm6vs 6 ай бұрын

Even though I used to dislike the loud kneeling sound myself when I was a kid, I do miss them, I'm not gonna lie.

@Bobby_9538 3 жыл бұрын

only low floors

@javie1988 5 жыл бұрын

I remember them on Main Street

@r-7337 5 жыл бұрын

Wmata’s 2005-2006 Orion 7.501 GNG sound way better than these 2002-2005 hybrids

@SusanPauline365 5 жыл бұрын

who's stupid idea was it to replace these hybrids with diesel buses?

@TheRailLeaguer 5 жыл бұрын

SusanPauline365 You do realize that today’s diesel buses are more environmentally friendly and cleaner-burning than these old hybrid, right? Not to mention that the diesels on the new units are just as clean as hybrids, only thing is that hybrids cost more in maintenance, and they could use that money elsewhere, like improving your slow bus service.

@SusanPauline365 5 жыл бұрын

I agree that diesels now are cleaner than hybrids 15 years ago. But the hybrids of today are probably cleaner. How do you explain other major bus systems in the Northeast like MBTA, Septa @ WMATA only buying hybrids and CNG units now?

@TheRailLeaguer 5 жыл бұрын

SusanPauline365 We are buying diesel buses because when these orders were placed, they did not want Hybrid buses due to maintenance costs. It wasn’t worth spending the extra money on maintenance to justify the small reductions in emissions compared to today’s diesel buses so that’s that. To respond to environmentalists concerns, the current 628 bus order was modified to include 10 XDE40s in it. This will provide data needed for the upcoming 275 hybrid bus order with fleet numbers 9510-9784, which was modified from the planned order of 200 diesels and 75 hybrids at the urging of Cuomo). We are also buying CNG Buses to replace the end of life CNG Buses (138 XN40s and 110 XN60s ended up replacing the 260 Orion VII CNG Buses). In the near future, MTA NYCT will begin to purchase only all electric buses to replace all three fuel types. By 2040, we will be an all electric operation. Current orders for electric buses include: 15 XE60s for the M14 SBS to arrive in the fall (along with the busway that was blocked by a judge yesterday) 45 standard electric buses due next year 500 new electric buses in the next 5 years. As for others purchasing only hybrid and CNG, I have no idea what the hell these guys are doing. Hopefully they will start a purchasing all-electric as cost of the bus goes down.

@SusanPauline365 5 жыл бұрын

i still feel diesel buses are bad for the environment. If the benefits of hybrids are slim then maybe they should start purchasing electric buses now or not retiring the orions yet.

@TheRailLeaguer 5 жыл бұрын

SusanPauline365 What are you talking about? Not retiring the Orion VII Hybrids? They are 15+ years old. WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO RETIRE THE FIRST BATCH WITH DIESEL BUSES SO POLLUTION SHOULD NOT BE A CONCERN. Plus those diesels comply with the latest EPA standards. The slim benefits of hybrids compared to diesels do not justify the increased maintenance costs of the hybrids. Electric units are coming, but the first 15 are NOT FOR BUS RETIREMENT. They are for M14 SBS units to displace the 2016-17 XD60s to Tuskegee Airmen Depot. By 2040, we will be all electric.