Wouldn’t be bad for garbage trucks either if the didn’t need to run a compactor

​@@tuckerstafford8266 Miami has some EV mack trucks already.

Except when the car is on 20 hours a day and doesn't have hours to recharge

​@@shm-62u30 Of those 20 hours, maybe 5 are spent driving. The rest are spent idling on the side of the road, or parked while cops are outside of them. Fast chargers that can go from 0-80% charge in about 10-20 minutes are also a thing, and being installed in places like restaurants. So cops can charge while eating lunch.

@@themidnighttavern6784 Idling still takes power, they've got all kinds of equipment running in them, and I'm sure many cops use their A/C. Diesel makes the most sense for police.

I agree

As born and bred Queens boy...he make me miss NYC. That dude is SO NYC.

Lmao I didn’t realize it was NY all this time till I heard him talk and I’m like… *Oh New York Police Department*

As a European, I can confirm.

They are faster than gasoline cars, so I would say they're perfect for highway patrol too. Also, there are lots of electric out there and they need cars that can keep up with.

@@davidkee2363 plenty that keep up. At higher speeds EV’s drop,performance significantly.

​@MooreFamilyVlogs I heard it had some to do with the tork. But idk

Ok tell me what happens when the car runs out of charge? Next shift got to go back and wait for it to charge

@@davidkee2363 NYPD has strict no chase policy

Fr and he is allowed to work as a cop, lol

Ford is better as their is more support, also more better build cars

​@@louisbarninghamwrong

@@louisbarningham Ford EV's are a distant 2nd behind Tesla.

Exactly!! Everyone that asks me the question of whether I’m scared or not if I’ll run out of juice in traffic and I always repeat the same question back! EVs have the same mileage capacity today, atleast the teslas do.

Don’t NYPD bicycle cops probably do more miles than those in cruisers?

U can test them out

@Jeep Cam Don't need to. The highway patrol are really the only ones who would put in that type of work. Not the work on the beat, stay stationary at 1 spot for a couple hrs, and move on PO.

@@10RRASK 😂😂😂

Them bring up the reduced space is down to it being a smaller car than other patrol cars such as the Explorer rather than it being an EV.

😭I’m glad someone was thinking the same

That cop is itialian and sounded so a line from sopranos

Agreed!

​​@@bigt7706also charging is a lot cheaper then gas witch saves taxpayers money and allows the department to use that money for other things

FORD vehicles in General are UNRELIABLE and require TOO much Maintenance . they will find out that Muck-e , also requires too much Maintenance. Tesla model 3/Y com with 60% less maintenance, than any ICE car. TESLA vehicles last longer also , they are made like Commerical vehicles.

Such as?

Me in a discussion post:

@@markplott4820 I hope you're talking about the Crown Vic...

It will perform poorly and will not hold up.

The policy of the NYPD when transporting a prisoner is that the perp sits behind the recorder ( front passenger ) and thats always been the policy, when the barriers were introduced that stayed in effect, and the arresting or escorting officer would sit behind the operator. Only time you really need a barrier is if the perp is combative.

​@@25yrsotj So you call the shop to build the barrier when the perp becomes combative?

​@@nancypelosi2627 no you call for a van with a cell built into the back

@@yelruta That sounds efficient

@@nancypelosi2627 the NYPD is anything but efficient

How is something works in lab shouldn’t it work in real life, can u explain why it means

Yeah They could Probably make a City Hall Charging Network Across the USA,imagine.

They no longer make a Ford Police Responder Hybrid, which was the Fusion variant. They make a Police Interceptor Utility Hybrid, an Explorer variant.

Hybrids can require more maintenance than ICEs and EVs due to being more complex than either. EVs require far less maintenance so that means less total cars needed for the force since less will be in the shop, and more reliable so the savings are across the board when it comes to EVs.

@@JacktheSmack Absolutely not true. All electric vehicle's initial cost outweigh everything you just mentioned.

@@ejicon3099 You will go through 2 or 3 ICE vehicles before you need to replace an EV.

@@JacktheSmack what? an ev is more delicate with more complicated parts. if the car is ok you can just replace the engine in ice

whatever you think. it's still more efficient then all the idling engines it's replacing

no one thinks that, but per miles per kWh for EV is way more efficient than ICE. Thats what MPGe is based on, kWh equivalent of a gallon of gas. Not to mention idling.

Exactly. So what there's no engine idle. Churn up those power plants. it's all slight of hand bullcrap. Don't forget the pollution created to make the batteries. Where do those come from? Mostly China. The biggest polluter. EV reliability? Poor and very expensive.

Not to mention that the NYPD buys everything in bulk as the largest police force in the world.

why would they have to do that? They are already saving police departments tens of thousands of dollars in fuel and maintenance even after correcting for original cost. Their product is in extremely high consumer demand, and their only competition in the space is Tesla, who is not going to mod their cars for a police department.

​@@AugustBanks actually Tesla has worked with a police department to mod one of their vehicles. it doesn't actually take much. by no means are they going to make a special version but I doubt Ford will do that either

Doubt it about the mach e. The mach e being used right now is probably liek you said jsut a test bed of the technology for the police force to get an understanding of how they would need to run them and get used to using an ev. If anything they would probably use a new electric vehicle like the ford explorer as the new police interceptor. Cheaper than a mach e and is big enough for their needs.

Somehow I feel like law enforcement doesn’t really care about the comfort of rear seat passengers. 😂

Should be a model Y

not true, i own one can barely fit 5 18year old + in and if you want to go on holiday with 5 people there is barely enough room, the front trunk isnt big enough and the trunk only carries about 9 cases of wine

True if the police are going to use a ev pursuit vehicle. Might as well be a Ford Mach E or Tesla model 3

For police work and suspects, not suburban mom work. Imagine getting a once in a while struggling teen in there..

Ok. Cop cars are Designated to their precinct so it wont matter

Can still be said about gas cars, they'll run out of gas much faster. Electric cars are more efficient at higher speeds. Combustion engines are only around 35% efficient with their energy compared to 90% efficiency of electric motors. In a pursuit I'd rather have the efficient high torque car than a giant space heater

Is that a problem? 😅

and it takes like 15 minutes to added 75 miles of range. Does the officer not take a lunch break?

@@AugustBanks Actually, more than that if they are using DC fast chargers.

They should be pretty durable, they’re just fords at the end of the day.

It’s NYC. They probably drive 12 miles in a total of 2 hours.

Charge during shift changes, it will rarely if ever be near zero charge. Pursuit also won't matter, it isn't like gas cars are always 100% full tank. Low on gas and that car has to drop out, no matter what the "fuel".

Are you pursuing for 100s of miles? Maybe you are, I don't know. Couldn't you also run out of gas pursuing?

@david McCarthy police cruisers usually top off when they are around 1/2 full so that they always have gas in them

@@davidmccarthy6061 Charging takes hours even if you only want a 50%, they would need 3 cars for 3 shifs, it's completely inefficient and a waste of resources

@@GaijinDT Charging with DC fast chargers takes the battery from 10% to 80% in less than 30 minutes. I am more than certain they can fit a 30-minute charge into their schedules and all use the same vehicle. The majority of their time is spent idling, either way.

Why would it need to charge overnight? The Mach-e can be charged in less than 30 minutes.

This dumb, ok NYPD not the most liked in NYC second people start realizing this cars when ignited cause huge issues will become targets secondly Its not going to be used as a “cop” car it’s a publicity stunt used for senior officials to travel around thirdly charging it takes longer then gas they can’t idle cause they run out and the next shift will have to wait for the car to charge technology and the Infanstruture isn’t their yet

They’ll probably have a car for each officer in the unit or they’ll just swap them out at the end of each shift

@@slapshotjack9806sounds just as expensive.

Since police idle a lot, I am sure they can find 4 hours in their shift to plug in

Speaking of 4 hours: does the Mach-E have fast -charging plugs?

@@imrytebeehyneu of course

What do you expect from a Ford.

So it really is a Ford!

They should wait for toyota or Honda to make a eV

​@@rajkumarbharathi3139 did you seriously just suggest Toyota? Toyota does NOT want to make an EV for some dumb reason

@@whatusernameis5295 they made bz eV. But still made in Japan only. They should start building it everywhere to reduce import tax

@Joe Mama I have no idea what that is supposed to mean

You think that ICE police cars are cheap?

@@Simon-dm8zv Multiple times cheaper than an electric car

@@Kiwi-rn4pp Do you not understand that you don't have to worry about maintenance on an EV? There are no more oil changes, no worrying about transmissions, etc. You literally only have to worry about occasionally changing breaks, swapping tires, and refilling the wiper fluid. Not only that, they are also WAY better for city driving and save tons of money from not having to use gasoline. I would rather my tax money goes to something like this that actually SAVES money than an expensive and wasteful ICE car.

​@@ProXcaliber It doesn't save money at all because the battery goes bad and it's still ridiculously expensive to replace. Tesla charges 15k for a new Model 3 battery, for that money you can get a new ICE car. and then there's the fact that the battery degrades with use like a smartphone, so range gets worse. Whereas a 20 year old Crown vic will run like new with just basic maintenance

@@Kiwi-rn4pp You are thinking on consumer levels, while this is on a fleet level. The savings on maintenance alone will easily offset the cost of battery degradation and replacement. As an example, there is a reason Amazon is investing so heavily into Rivian to give them EV delivery vans. The savings are astronomical when you are talking about hundreds or thousands of cars. This is also the reason that large electric trucks are also in high demand. These companies would not be investing in EVs so heavily if they didn't save money and increase profit margins.

but this is in comparison to the gasoline which is just petter

That was in California

They just asked people to use less power during peak time including not charging EVs during peak time. Just like they have been doing for air conditioners for 50 years.

@@AugustBanks Exactly. They will charge at night when grid usage is very low.

You charge them at night, not a problem at all

😂

Funny you mention that. Lately I've seen US Marshals in force and they'll drive anything. Mostly seized vehicles so they'll roll up on you in a Lincoln Continental and they don't play. Don't know what's up but they've been out a lot lately. Picking up the slack??? 🤔

Say whatever you want it’s still a mustang

@@slapshotjack9806 no its not

@@Spekticon if it got a mustang badge on it it’s a mustang

@@slapshotjack9806 No it isn't.

@@slapshotjack9806 So if I put a Bugatti badge on a Corolla, then it's a Bugatti?

How far do you think police cars drive in a day in a city like NYC? Traffic is backed up. That and range becomes significantly better (not that it was bad in the first place) when you’re not at highway speeds.

I drive for uber usually 10-12hrs/day and usually average 200-250 miles. I don’t think patrol cars will be far off. Most of the battery will be used up powering the AC, Electronics, Lights etc. That problem can be solved with an AUXILIARY Battery 🔋

my mache says it can do 280+ but in reality it barely does 200.

The Mach E can add 120 miles of range over a 30 minute lunch break.

Model Y range is WAY overstated. Tesla range is based on EPA estimates and is way off. Rented a Model X and hit one charger showing range at 220 miles but stopped with 0 range about 2 miles short of the 120 mile segment.

They only use Ford, Chevy, or Chevorlet. supposed to be "Patriotic"

​@@paulk2735 you do realize Tesla and rivian are American companies right? Built in the USA

They should look into the rivian SUV, it's big and very capable.

They already get good deals on the cars they buy from ford/chevy. I barely doubt that they would consider using any different car manufacturer than those.

@@nahnahson I completely understand what you are saying, my point is just that the government typically sticks with Ford and Chevy for their motor needs

Because they love to waste taxpayer dollars on useless things

Human factor. Always screws things up.

yea but it takes 5 minutes to get gas and at least 2 hours to charge

@@theminimagic7255 Tell me you don't understand DC fast charging without telling me...

@@theminimagic7255 It takes less than 30 minutes to go from around 10% battery to 80% and a little more to charge it higher than that. I also don't know what car you drive, but it used to take me more than 5 minutes to fill up my tank. At minimum, it would take me about 10 minutes to fill up to full and that's also if I didn't actually go inside, grab snacks, a drink, etc.

@@ProXcaliber if you fast charge constantly you will degrade the battery much faster and range will suffer. With as much usage these will see they will need to stick to level 2 or about 48 amps to preserve the battery. Even then it’ll lose 15% in the first year then taper losses, about 1-2%/yr after that.

That bought Tesla also

@@LaJuanHughes probably used the money they garnered from “illegal parking” gotta love government!

Lies again? Department Of Justice Ezlink Card

The only pro I can see about these cars, is that's it's easier to sneak up on criminals.

@@drjekelmrhyde what’s the point if they’re just gonna release them without bail/on their own recognizance shortly after they get caught? And just have their crimes downgraded or dropped altogether so they’re just back out there.

@@drjekelmrhyde😂

There you go. 👍

Of course, the Glass House is right there.

That’s always been true and it’s always been counterbalanced by their team tactics. NYC isn’t Smokey and the Bandit. It’s Pac-Man.

No it's not that She's the only one that seem to have a sense of humor on the panel.

You are a fool to believe that response time in Mexico, they will most likely show up when the amber is put out. Permanent resident here for decades and never seen incompetent/corrupt cops.

@Joe Mama Well Mr. Mama, that funding that is not put in our children and communities, results in one of the concerns you just expressed.

What about government corruption and Inflation due to the economic recession?

@@LeoNation007 that can be another question to ask the NYPD, to figure out why would it be necessary to invest this money on these vehicles. What I am talking about is an issue that exists for generations.

I wonder if you have the same energy when it comes to military spending. The military budget for 2022 was $715B. The newest budget for 2024 is $842B. We literally pulled $127B out of thin air in 2 years

Agreed, and in a few years, when the battery dies all New York Taxpayers will have to pay for a new set of cars because the old ones are obselete.

EV’s make sense most of the time. They’re cleaner, quieter, faster and some of them will even go over 500 miles on a single charge.

@@coolcat6303Police cars would not want to be quieter though. Their presence need to be known when giving chase or going to an emergency, and sirens would make the car loud anyway. The instant torque might help initially, but I wonder about top speeds.

@@Tunnelsnakes he’s talking about all scenarios, not just police.😊

@@splenced7091 Fair enough. Ideally, the police don’t want to be chasing cars that have higher top speeds than the normal EV, and hopefully their battery compartments are isolated enough to rarely get punctured if they have to deal with crashes (police cars are often meant to be rugged at this point). The heaviness of the EVs would be an advantage though, would make for easier pit maneuvers.

Police Departments REQUIRED to buy from LEGACY , unless SMALL Department.

agree but i don't think they can by law.

true

@@comments.cuestionsandconcerns why not? The law only requires the car to be from an American company, tesla is an American company.

@@Jimmyxsx i believe it has to be one of the big 3 in america.

I prefer 9 and 3 personally.

Cars have downtime for oil changes too. Coolant flushes. Tire replacement. Pretty sure they have schedules figured out.

10-80% in 45 mins is not too bad if you ask me

They'll still have ICE cars nearby either way. Different tools for the job

Whatever they save on gas and maintenance they can buy tires.

@@PyroShields those suvs don't save any gas they are just a worst ford explorer

400,000 miles on my TESLA stock tires. let that SINK in.

@@markplott4820 Better than my corvette that gets about 20k miles

@@PyroShields - my Tesla tires lasted over 200k miles.

not when PD are deploying Microwave guns to short out Electrical systems.

Dont ask, and NEVER tell.

Yeah but I’m assuming they won’t fully fit one with one if it isn’t up to par.

@@aaronsavage8018 It looks like it'd be very cramped in the back if they added a partition.

@@YourMajesticKyng I mean no more than any other police car. They’re not made for comfort. I’ve seen them with partitions as well and they don’t look odd or anything.

chain Criminal to hood , like a Deer.

these carries more charge than your regular mach e..

The A/C and computer don't use that much power. This Mach E when fully charged has a 91,000 W of usable battery. The A/C uses about 1,500 W per hour on a very hot day. The computer and other equipment use 1,000 W per hour max. That is 2,500 W per hour which is 2.7% of that battery (or 7 miles of range per hour) running full blast 100%

and so is wasting fuel when idling for hours ...

It’s NYC, not LA. Drag is negligible at the road speeds NYPD operates at.

Not to mention what you said about charging is just plain wrong. Mach-E supports DC fast charging the same as any other modern car. 10-80% in 45 minutes is what I’ve read, and that’s only if they need to top up during an unusually long day.

Not at all. Drag applies to any speed when talking range. All EVs, outside of Tesla do not have access to level 3 charging. Tesla is slowly rolling out access, but the chargers shown here are Level 2, which is considered “fast charging” but not as fast as it needs to be to support a 45 min charge as you’ve stated. The Level 2’s have the same power as a dryer (220). Although more than than a typical plug (110), most EVs being built do not obtain a full 220 charge. The label “DC fast charging” is misleading and heavily dependent on the charge and type of battery, similarity the way we use the terms “organic” and “free range.”

@@Anthony-hc7ej Anthony-hc7ej (auto-gen bot name?), that’s another lie. DCFC using the widely-known CCS connector standard charges non-Tesla vehicles as fast as 350kW, depending on the model. Respected publications like Motortrend note that Mach-E fast charges 10-80 in either 38 minutes or 45 depending on the battery size. You’re straight up lying, trying to make it look like it’s a contested fact. Hundreds of KZfaq channels post their experience with these exact cars and chargers.

Your missing the main point, LEVEL 2 charger (the charger itself) does not have a high enough output to charge a car in 45 min. As someone who actually owns multiple EVs, your not getting the same charge as you would a Level 3. The NYPD only owns Level 2 as shown in the video. This is the exact reason why Biden wanted Tesla to open the charging network. ElectrifyAmerica offers some Level 3 but no nearly as much as Tesla. There are a few variations of Mach-e with different batteries and charging speeds. Again, it doesn’t matter what battery you have if your not at a Level 3 or 4 charger, your not charging under an hour if your at 10%. FYI, no car is charging at 350, even teslas (most throttle back to protect the components). Current tesla’s get 250 usually except the RWD M3 that’s getting 220. The Mach e’s are getting about 140, although they do get 160 in the first couple of minutes. They are advertising 350 for future use, but again if your at a Level 2, your not getting anything close to that. ONLY Level 3’s have the ability to go up to 350. Here is a great article from a reliable source: www.kbb.com/car-advice/fastest-charging-electric-cars/ Good luck with your reading of the Ford pamphlet (No one fact checks them btw), it may make you a good salesman but wont fool someone that actually owns one.

Why dont they run out of gas during a chase?

@@Zero11_ss Because it takes 2 minutes to refuel at the station. As compared to 4 hours of charging. And I don’t think your watch commander or the general public wants a patrol officer sitting in the station parking lot for 4 hours straight.

@@LeeeroyJenkins Nobody is stopping to refuel mid chase lmao. The point is that the same dumb cop who forgets to keep his car fueled is going to be the same dumb cop who forgets to charge the car, not to mention they can easily have charging stations at the HQ and just plug it in every time they stop by or leave work. They aren't driving like 400 miles a day, most of the time they just post up in one spot anyway.

The folks who think emergency charging takes 4 hours haven’t been paying attention. That’s old school AC charging. DC fast charging at public stations takes a Mach-E from 10-80 in 45 minutes if a long shift needs it. Not like their cars never sit idle during shift now….

@@Zero11_ss u smat

Kind of like when cars don’t start or they need service. Way less prevalent with EVs, NGL. You’re grasping at straws.

@@mrallelectriccarlunacy Of all the things this dude thought of is an electric car not charging lol.

LEVEL 2 chargers are pretty RELIABLE 99.99% of time. DC fast chargers , other than TESLA are Unreliable.

NOPE , its non issue . CATTERPILLAR already has HD dump trucks that are BEV. the Wheel hubs & Tires are TALLER than a Human.

Mach E weights less than the Ford Explorer.